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Your submission at Articles for creation: Swindon Health Hydro (November 4)
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Hello, Mydaemonthirst!
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- I am contacting Historic England to see what they have to say. I should have contacted them before using their text - this is a new game for me. Please give me a few days to get a response. Mydaemonthirst (talk) 14:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, but this draft is likely to be deleted anyway.
- Also, HE need to realise that they aren't just giving permission (assuming) for you to use their text on Wikipedia, they are irrevocably releasing it into the public domain, after which anyone can do anything they want with that material.
- The instructions for donating copyright material is at WP:DCM. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:36, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Swindon Health Hydro
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A tag has been placed on Draft:Swindon Health Hydro requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1382135?section=official-list-entry. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.
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- I now don't seem able to get to the draft page to let Historic England know what text I used. If the page gets deleted, will that block forever any chance of creating a page for this important historic building? Mydaemonthirst (talk) 14:36, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- You may not use the text from the Historic England web site unless they provide a proper license release. You are allowed to try to write an article about the building using your own words. I've provided some summary information about copyright policy on Wikipedia below. -- Whpq (talk) 14:49, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia and copyright
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Hello Mydaemonthirst! While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, it's important to understand and adhere to guidelines about using information from sources to prevent copyright and plagiarism issues. Here are the key points:
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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices. Persistent failure to comply may result in being blocked from editing. If you have any questions or need further clarification, please ask them here on this page, or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. Whpq (talk) 14:47, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- I understand what you're saying but it seems I will not get the opportunity to revise the page. This is my first attempt at creating a Wikipedia page and it seems that it may now never be possible to create a page about the Health Hydro. I'm nervous about making a fresh start because, if I get it wrong, I may be barred altogether from Wikipedia. There are a number of others who will want to contribute to the page but will certainly not be confident enough to update it directly themselves. My plan was to make a start but then get others to provide additional information with references, that I could then add. This is an important building and a lot of people in Swindon feel very strongly about it - we want to give it as much prominence as possible and a Wikipedia page would be part of that. It's not easy to come fresh to Wikipedia and create a page and I'm a bit shocked that, having got it wrong, I may have no opportunity to put things right. Mydaemonthirst (talk) 09:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Creating an article from scratch is one of the toughest things to do on Wikipedia. Help:Your first article provides some guidance on how to proceed. You will also want to make sure you that your topic meets the inclusion criteria for Wikipedia. This is almost always referred to as WP:Notability. This is established with significant coverage in independent WP:Reliable sources which you should add as inline citations. Help:Referencing for beginners provides information on how to do that. If the Swindon Health Hydro is a listed building, then there should be some material written about its historic value that would establish that the topic should be on Wikipedia. For help on editing Wikipedia, make use of the WP:Teahouse. The editors there will provide friendly advice and help on how to edit Wikipedia. Cheers. -- Whpq (talk) 14:24, 5 November 2024 (UTC)