User talk:Nickshanks/Archive2

Hungarians in Romania

Hi. I made the map of the Hungarians in Romania. It's here Image:Hungarians in Romania.png bogdan | ^Talk 16:21, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Much thanks! – Nicholas

Wikimedia UK

You have expressed an interest in Wikimedia UK. Just to let you know I've posted a draft Memorandum of Association and Articles of Association of the proposed "Wikimedia UK" charitable company on Wikimedia UK/Memorandum of Association and Wikimedia UK/Articles of Association. It is proposed that these will receive initial approval by interested parties at a meeting on 27 November. I will put together a brief agenda for the more formal aspects of that meeting soon. Memo and Arts of Association are a company's constitution, and need to be agreed before the company is formed (though they can be changed at a later date). Please feel free to comment on the relevant talk pages (I'd rather the proposed drafts are left unedited so that it is easy to see what is going on) - particularly if there is something there that you would disagree with at the meeting, details of which can be found on the Wikimedia UK page on Wikimedia Meta-Wiki. Kind regards, jguk 19:06, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Iranian plane accident

Please stop making trivial changes (e.g. aeroplane, airplane) to the article, as there is little point in doing so. That's why I changed the ten-stor(e)y part to ten-floor a while back; people on both sides continuously changed it. Thanks. Jibbajabba 18:23, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I'm sure airplane grates on you just as aeroplane grates on me, and I'm also sure that it's been changed back and forth at least a dozen time since the article's creation, but since that's the way it is, leave airplane where it is and aeroplane where it is. Again, it's just like the stor(e)y part, except I think you and I can both agree that saying they were in a "fixed-wing aircraft" sounds even stupider than aero or air. :P Jibbajabba 18:30, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Anyway, at least we have something "neutral" now. As I said on the talk page, even though I'm an American, I'm beginning to hate Noah Webster (although the plane probably wasn't invented when he was alive :P). Jibbajabba 18:39, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't think there's really a difference in the on board, not to me anyway. And yeah, I say quarter and half. But airplane is the only thing I've ever heard anyone say (from California and only been to places like Hawaii any Mexico though). Jibbajabba 19:10, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

User:Nickshanks/IPA

What on Earth did you do to produce that? Lol... Just curious. Jibbajabba 21:09, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Reasoning behind edits dealing with Akahi Nui

I'm wondering why you have previously added "Akahi Nui" under "Monarch" on the Hawaii article [1]. This makes no sense as the State of Hawaii does not officially recognize anyone to be the Monarch of Hawaii and there has been no official monarch of Hawaii since Liliuokalani was overthrown in 1893. I've noticed you've added Akahi Nui to your new "List of Monarchs of Hawaii article as well. I've reverted all of these changes for now, but I'm wondering if you have a reason as to why you added Akahi Nui to these articles. 青い(Aoi) 06:24, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

I had come across this guy via Hawaii-based websites that teach some of the local language, and found that wikipedia didn't have very much mentioning him. The American government doesn't seem to recognise him but apparently Hawaiians do, so I felt he should be mentioned directly in the article (given the NPOV principal of presenting all points of view). For what reason did you revert them? What the US government says shouldn't be the only opinion presented on wikipedia (and probably should be ignored most of the time!) Nicholas 13:21, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Most people in Hawaii have no clue this guy even exists. More importantly, most Hawaiians do not, in fact, recognize Akahi Nui as their King. When this guy first appeared, a lot of Hawaiians just got angry at him (such as this sovereignty group). This man is a pretender, nothing more. Writing that he is the official King of Hawaii is like writing that Louis Alphonse, Duke of Anjou is the King of France, in that there is more than one person who could claim the throne (including at least one other person whose claim is more universally accepted than Akahi Nui's: Quentin Kawananakoa). While I agree with you that what the US government says shouldn't be the only opinion presented on Wikipedia, writing about Akahi Nui in a way that makes him appear official and recognized in a way that he obviously isn't is strongly POV. 青い(Aoi) 21:37, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Hmm, okay. I figured it was just a case of history being written by the victors (the US) to the detriment of the Hawaiians. Thanks for informing me :) Nicholas

Telugu fonts for Mac

Hi Nick, I see that you have developed Kannada font for MacOSX. What does it take to do the same for Telugu font since telugu and Kannada scripts are very similiar. All the gang from telugu wiki would be greatfull if you can help in this regard. Thanks --Vyzasatya 19:01, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Sure, I could do that no problem, but would need someone to help guide me as to the script, how it works, any peculiarities etc. Nicholas 23:51, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

The current freely available unicode fonts for telugu donot render telugu properly. (I tested it on firefox,Safari on OSX..IE doesnot even render). I guess its due to the fact that these fonts are not written for Mac rendering system. This links to some unicode telugu fonts. Pothana and Vemana among them are free and can be tweaked. I will send you some screenshots of how it renders in Mac and how it is supposed to be rendered. --Vyzasatya 17:43, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

New British Empire map and "bunch of stuff"

Hello Nicholas, this is Sean_II. I noticed on Owen's page you had proposed unifying my original anachronous map with your British Empire map. Sorry I haven't checked in for a while. Anyway, I went through about 2 other versions of the map, and in response to many comments seen on the British Empire discussion page and the image discussion page itself, I came up with this (see Image:British Empire Anachronous 4.PNG). Having looked on your map, I noticed I missed some of the Indian Ocean, mid-Atlantic Ocean (St. Helena, etc.) and Pacific Ocean possessions as well as the Ionian islands. I made an inset map of the Caribbean since I cannot get bored doing my own islands. In case you are wondering I drew the map based on MANY other maps (from lib.utexas, matthew white's 20th century historical atlas, some books, and from the info at worldstatesmen.com), so I am pretty sure it's accurate (although I am not sure about the British sphere of influence in the Yangtze River Valley in China, but that's just one point. Anyway, before this message gets too long, I'll just say that I would be interested in unifying our maps and Happy New Year to you!-- Sean_II 20:40, 02 January 2006

'Burglarize'

synchronised with User talk:Pharos: Burglarize doesn't exist outside the US, and since the Main Page is not US‐specific, a real word like burgle should be used. Burglarize sounds about as dumb as agentification would to mean becoming an FBI agent! I urge you to reconsider your reversion. Nicholas 13:26, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Mark Felt is certainly a US topic and "burglarize" isn't going to confuse anyone. Let's not talk about "real words" here; all words are real. Anyway, if you look in your dictionary burgle is actually a messy back-formation from burglar. So there. Don't be such a grumpy prescriptivist!--Pharos 13:45, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

"Mark Felt is certainly a US topic" — I'm not complaining against its use in W. Mark Felt, but on the supposedly dialect‐neutral Main Page.
"all words are real" — but only a small subset of those are present in the English language.
"burgle is actually a messy back-formation from burglar" — didn't know that (nor can I verify the claim as I haven't an etymological dictionary).
"Don't be such a grumpy prescriptivist" — I'm not grumpy at all, I asked nicely for you to reconsider a reversion you made. Perhaps it is you who is the grumpy one? And describing 'burglarize' as not a real word (which is correct in all my experiences) is not being prescriptivist at all, not that there's anything bad about either extreme. My point was that it is not a neutral term. Perhaps if burgle is unacceptable State‐side, a different word can be found? Nicholas 14:16, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry if the joking nature of this comment wasn't obvious. I certainly didn't mean to call you "grumpy" in a negative way- this may be another dialect thing, but in my experience this word almost always has a humorous connotation. As to Main Page content, I don't know if we're going for "neutrality" as much as widest understandability, and I would guess "burglarize" is probably more understandable to "burgle" users than vice versa. If you still think burglarize is unacceptable, we could always go with "break into".--Pharos 14:45, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Alas it was not obvious! To me at least, grumpy is quite negative, usually applied to senior members of society who lack social consideration, or tact. See Victor Meldrew. And I might postulate that 'burglarize' is a messy forward‐formation ;-) I like your suggestion of break into and have made the change. Thank you for meeting me in the middle. It's marks a pleasant change when common ground can be found. Nicholas 15:04, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Forget meet in the middle. When did we start using two words when one would do the job quite nicely? Likewise, why use "burglarize" when you can use "burgle"...and save some ink? As for back-formations, I see your point. Similarly, I always thought that "editorizing" was a far better activity for an editor.

Georgia article titles

For the past 1 1/2 years, I've felt afraid that there has been more and more evidence that Georgia (country) will be moved to Georgia. Now the votes are tied. Please answer this question:

Will there be a time in history where the voters who want it moved outnumber the voters who don't by at least 10 votes?? Georgia guy 21:20, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

How long is a piece of string? Nicholas 21:21, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Measure one with a ruler. Georgia guy 22:45, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Improved maps

Hello again, well I take it from your swift moves in placing the British Empire Anachronous 4 map into the article that you liked it. Thank you. In the meantime, I have used your map and copied the missing islands into my anarchronous map. In addition I have tried to more clearly show the status of the various islands in the Atlantic, Indian and Pacific Oceans. Using a number of other maps I tried to show the various Pacific domains, although the map is a little unorthodox in that it would show all of the Pacific extending from Japan and Australia all the way to Pitcairn without showing the western coast of North America or without splitting the Pacific and putting Polynesia (French), eastern Kiribati, Pitcairn, etc. on the same side of the map as the Americas (I did this because of the inset map of the Caribbean + the map Key being in the area where French Polynesia and Pitcairn should be). I would hope this map would not be too radically different from the normal wikipedia maps. I was thinking of running it by you and Owen before putting it in the article (no need for any tedious reverts from other wikipedians over the map), so would you prefer that I upload it or e-mail it? Also I have been trying to create a similar map for the French Empire(s) (well the French colonial empire, but I think I can incoporate Napolean's Empire in Europe) and I have a nearly complete version, would either yourself or Owen like to view it and help in refining it? --Sean II 23:21, 14 January 2006

Just upload it, you are being too careful tip‐toeing so as not to tread on anything, but it means everyone else has lapped you by the time you get to the first bend ;-) Upload it, put it on the article so everyone can see it, and if someone should want to refine it, they can. I bought myself a book called "An Atlas of the British Empire", so I can check against that. Nicholas 08:40, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

your dhivehi wikipedia user page

I have started translating your Wikipedia user page into the Dhivehi language at its Wikipedia (as per your request), and will complete it shortly. I am not wiki-fying it because of the lack of content as of right now. I am not very sure how the Thaana script will show up on your PC so I suggest that you install support for East Asian languages if you are running Windows XP. Leave a message if you need any additional help regarding this. Take care. --Fizan 13:57, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, I appreciate it! And nope, I don't have a PC and am not running Windows. It shows up like this (Mv Lady Luck is the font). Nicholas 17:48, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

re: Pedophile activism

Hi, I'm messaging you because you're listed as having recently edited this article. What is going on with this article? I saw that the name changed again, its been protected, is tagged NPOV disputed, etc. Is it coming into shape, or what? Per some discussion starting with the article's AfD a couple weeks back, I created a project structure to address this article, here: User:Herostratus/Pedophilia I'm not an expert on subject or article, so I'm asking current editors -- Do you think this would still be useful, or what? Thx Herostratus 14:43, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I am not following it, I just corrected a few spelling/grammar mistakes. I hadn't seen the article before Saturday and don't know why it was protected. Nicholas 14:54, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Template:In the news

You might find reading Wikipedia:In_the_news_section_on_the_Main_Page interesting. Morwen - Talk 22:56, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

The rules are linked to from the comment in template:ITN. If the Ford layoffs aren't updated yet either, that needs removing, too, yes.

Well I was meaning that company layoffs aren't encyclopaedic (even if they have been added to the article, they ought not to have been) (rule 2), and that the layoffs were not really of international importance (rule 3) as it only affects the US. Nicholas

By the way, I have checked the version of the article New Horizons at the time I made my edit here and I will stand by that - it said nothing at the time about being the fastest 'launched' spaceship as well as being the planned fastest ever one so it sounded rather like a mangling of the Jupiter gravity assist factlet. Morwen - Talk 23:06, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I was referring to this edit, and I think you just mis‐understood what the (rather badly worded) content meant. The departure speed of the craft relative to the Earth is what was being commented upon. Indeed it is expected to get to Jupiter in only thirteen months! If that wasn't mentioned in the Wikipedia article at the time, you should have checked another source. Sorry. Nicholas 23:15, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

I understand what it meant correctly. The article didn't say that - I linked to the article at that time, not my edit. As to "you should have checked another source". Well, as I said before, I will stand by that - we shouldn't be having content on the front page that we don't have in actual articles - this is just another facet of the articles being updated thing. I try to fix ITN to conform with the long established rules and what does it get me? - I shouldn't have to defend myself here. Morwen - Talk 23:21, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I'm not attacking you at all, I did tried to apologise, as I am the new admin here and just getting my feet wet with this. I have a lot of respect for you as a longstanding editor, so please don't take anything I say badly, it's not intended that way, I was just trying to reply promptly. That said though, if something is important enough to warrant putting into one or two lines in the In the news section, then I'm sure within five minutes it'll be added to the relavent article anyway, and you won't have to worry about this sort of stuff.

Ok, sorry - probably being oversensitive. It's not that harmful in itself, indeed, but as a general principle I think we need to keep it. Morwen - Talk 23:39, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

hymen image

Hi, you mentioned that Image:Types of Hymen.jpg was copyright. Is there a reason you didn't list it for deletion or consideration? Avriette 17:34, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Probably one of the following:

• Forgot
• Too lazy
• Didn't realise

Hope it's not too much of a problem. It's gets automatically listed in the copyright category, which I presume people monitor. — Nicholas (reply) @ 17:39, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Russian User page

Sorry it took me a long time to respond - i did a bit of work on your Russian user page per your request. Will go on some time in the future ... --Amir E. Aharoni 17:47, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

svg handling; clickable links

Nick,

I’d like to upload svg files (maps) using links to wikipedia articles. Example on the right (from scattered disk)

...

.

Objects (circles) should be clickable links to respective articles. The links in svg are supported locally (both IE and Firefox) but ‘dead’ once uploaded to wiki. I understand that wiki transforms .svg to .png either on the fly or in a batch rather than serving them to the client(?). Are <a> tags ( from xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" ) transformed to image maps? Is there any way to have clickable maps from .svg? If you’re not the right person to ask these questions please point to someone else or point me to a doc. Any help greatly appreciated! Eurocommuter 14:38, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Eurocommuter: Nick asked me to respond to your SVG question. No, because SVGs are rendered rather than utilized directly, Wikipedia only uses the graphic portions of SVG. The extended markup is not available. I don't believe there is any kind of time frame to be able to do this. ℬastique▼^parℓer♥^voir♑ 00:17, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

svg handling: color grandients

I appreciated your earlier answer via Bastique, thanks! As he appears to be on a wikibreak I hope you can re-direct again my next question. I’m preparing a new series of graphics for Kuiper Belt and it appears that the converter handles properly radial gradients applied to ellipses, and rectangles

Test of a future graphic.

Albedos and colours.

but not to arbitrary paths. Please select the image on the left and select an earlier version). Could you confirm this please, or am I doing something wrong? Again, it works perfectly with IE and Firefox on the original svg but not with the converter. Where can I find a documentation describing the limitations of this tool? Many thanks! Regards Eurocommuter 14:54, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Caption for Tironian glyphs

Hi. I noticed that the caption at Tironian notes contains some error. I'd fix it, only I don't know what it's supposed to say. —JerryFriedman 00:19, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

I see this:

Tironian et, U+204A "⁊".

with the U+ linked to Unicode. If that's not an error, I have no idea what I'm supposed to understand by anything after the comma. Also, there was some discussion of this in alt.usage.english, and people weren't sure whether all three glyphs meant the same same and were just aesthetic variants, or whether there was some more important difference. Might it need a fuller explanation? —JerryFriedman 18:12, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

The U+nnnn but is it's unicode assignment in hexadecimal. The character in quotes that looks like a 7 is the subject of the article. I don't know any more about the character than I have read in the article (including whether there are differences between them, though I suspect not). — Nicholas (reply) @ 13:56, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

ˈlɔŋgəst ˈɑɹɾəkl nem

haɪ nɪk, sɑɹi bəɾ aɪ dəˈliɾəd jɚ ˌnɑməˈni fɚ ˈlɔŋgəst ˈɑɹɾəkl nem. ɪt wəz pɹəˈpozd fɚ dəˈliʃən n ju ˈdɪdn əbˈdʒɛkt ɪn taɪm. ænd ɪt ˈwʌz ˈpɹɪɾi ˈsɪli! Angr/talk 06:41, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, oh well :) — Nicholas (reply) @

Town names disamb.

Hi,

I noticed that you moved Baja (Hungary) to Baja, Hungary on Jan 3. I admit it looks better but all Hungarian town names are disambiguated with the name of the country being in parentheses; it'd be a terrible pain in the ass to change all of them. Is there some official policy on this?

regards,

Alensha 20:08, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Hungary is the only locale where I've seen this, everywhere else uses commas. Sure it would be a PITA if one person did every page, but if someone with a bot or many people could do it, it wouldn't be so bad and wold conform. DO you know of anyone with a page moving bot? — Nicholas (reply) @ 23:47, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

The problem is that most of the articles themselves don't exist yet, but there are lots of red links with parentheses. Anyway, I'll fix them in the county articles I'm working on now. Alensha 20:26, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Changing them in the county articles is no problem, but there must be lots of other pages which refer to them; I hope they'll be found sooner or later :) Alensha 20:42, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

HuWiki user page

Its translation is nice, it seems that others have already made minor corrections to it :) but seeing all those red links I'm a bit ashamed of our wiki, we don't have articles on anything :( Alensha 21:07, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

13 colonies Userbox

Sorry I didn't respond earlier, I had to go find which template you were referring to :) Its that whole new T1 criteria for speedy deletes -- political factions, seperatist movements etc can be very divisive and inflammatory. It looks like some people are working on an actual userbox/template policy though, so that may all be moot soon. If you don't think it meets the T1 criteria, feel free to restore. .:.Jareth.:. ^babelfish 14:25, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

T1 is a criteria for deleting templates Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Templates. If you want, you could always just put the code on your userpage instead of using the template; I've done that with my userboxes since the current debate makes some of them disappear randomly at times :) .:.Jareth.:. ^babelfish 15:00, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

I have no idea what you're talking about

I have no idea what you're talking about, though I would sure like to know who is that bozo who copied my photo of the first Web server and posted it on his Web site! I don't even have a Web site at the moment, and I use SBC Yahoo! (now part of AT&T) for Internet access, which means my IP address is usually dynamically assigned in the 4.246.42.* range. --Coolcaesar 19:29, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Falcon 1

Hi Nickshanks, don't change spelling from American to British on this article. Please go and change aluminium back to aluminum. See the WP:MOS. Cheers :) --Duk 15:41, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Where differences exist in in US/UK spellings, Wikipedia policy is to spell elements using their standardised IUPAC names: Aluminium (with two is) and Sulfur (with an f), regardless of whether the rest of the article is in UK or US English. If you see anyone changing the Falcon 1 article spelling back to aluminum please pass on this information and revert it. See the WP:MOS :P Thanks. — Nicholas (reply) @ 10:02, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

MOS states:

• Articles should use the same dialect throughout.
• If an article's subject has a strong tie to a specific region/dialect, it should use that dialect.

I couldn't find; Where differences exist in in US/UK spellings, Wikipedia policy is to spell elements using their standardised IUPAC names:. At least not in this context. I think the American spelling of Aluminium is called for. Am I still missing something? Cheers. --Duk 15:51, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Are you confusing the page naming convention with spelling conventions?--Duk 17:48, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Protection of template:cite news

Hi, you protected template:cite news ([2]). Please unprotect it. At the moment only admins can edit it. This is not needed. I would agree to semi-protect it, so that only loggged-in users can edit it, but limiting editing to admins only is not justified. The move protection is ok. Best regards, --Ligulem 15:50, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Please see Me... and do pennanceFrankB 09:07, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Image:Trentbridgecricketground.jpeg

Hi Nick,

I've been looking through all the cricket images, and making sure that they have proper source and copyright status. I see you marked Image:Trentbridgecricketground.jpeg as "fair use". I see you uploaded it a long time ago: do you still want to stand by that fair use claim? I have to admit I'm a bit skeptical, but if you do still want to claim that, it at least needs some sort of fair use justification.

Thanks,

Stephen Turner (Talk) 20:26, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

If you want to take it down that's up to you. It would be nice to leave it until there's a replacements available though. — Nicholas (reply) @ 20:53, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

New look for box headers

There's a discussion on the WikiProject Astronomical objects page regarding a new look for box headers. I was hoping you could drop by and comment. Thank you. — RJH 14:46, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Mars Express and Venus Express in Spacecraft Propulsion

As far as I can determine, from memory and the project's web pages, neither Express project used aerobraking. If you can point me to evidence that shows otherwise, I'll be happy to change the section on Planetary Arrivals and Landing back. LouScheffer 17:27, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Message for you...

See ik:User_talk:Nickshanks! -- Zanimum 19:44, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Vojvodina map

Well, I used map with not very high quality as a base for that ethnic map of Vojvodina. I suppose, I can try to little improve quality of that map in Photoshop. Regarding the colours, I think that it is better to have different colour for ethnically mixed areas. PANONIAN (talk) 13:52, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Inupiaq

Hi Nickshanks! Welcome to the Inupiaq Wikipedia! Do you speak this language? -- Zanimum 19:43, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Nope, not a sausage. I use my user pages as linguistic sandboxes (see cy and ru). DO you know of any places on the internet where I can learn some Inupiaq? Nickshanks 16:07, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

There is a dictionary, www.alaskool.org/language/ dictionaries/inupiaq/dictionary.htm, but besides that, there is little Internet representation of this language, on the web. -- Zanimum 14:39, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

(If you wish to continue this conversation, do so on IK, not here. -- Zanimum 14:41, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:User stalker-2

Template:User stalker-2 has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. Ricky81682 (talk) 03:48, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Internet Explorer for Mac

Sorry, I can see that you are trying to be helpful but aren't our rules about external links to our own websites pretty clear? AlistairMcMillan 02:01, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Proposed Georgia Move

As a past participant in the discussion on how to handle the Georgia pages, I thought you might be interested to know that there's a new attempt to reach consensus on the matter being addressed at Talk:Georgia (country)#Requested_Move_-_July_2006. Please come by and share your thoughts to help form a consensus. --Vengeful Cynic 03:39, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Hasekura Tsunenaga

Hi Nickshanks. Should you wish to do so, you can vote at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates for Hasekura Tsunenaga to become a featured article. Best regards PHG 03:18, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Edit Warring 2006 Arab-Isreal Conflict

Please note that I have put a comment on the talk page. I'm not taking anyone side, but am sick of seeing the edit war. The page has already been semi-protected. If this edit war continues I will ask an admin for full protection of the page. You guys need to discuss stuff on the talk page and start following the rules of Wikipedia. Davidpdx 12:44, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I am not part of any edit war, and have only made a couple of minor grammatical corrections to the page. Please check who you send warnings to before blanket-issuing them to anyone who edits a page. — Nicholas (reply) @ 14:00, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

If that is the case,why were you readding information that was getting deleted. Yes, you did not have very many edits,but you were and are part of a content war going on in the article I mentioned. Therefore it does have relevency. Davidpdx 14:08, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I assert that I am unaware of any edit war going on, nor do I know what information I added that "was getting deleted". I just added some <small> tags to the casualty list on the right, and corrected a few errors in the page's English. I didn't add any new content, because have no new content to add! — Nicholas (reply) @ 14:12, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Inaccuracy in Xena image

I just thought I'd let you know, an image that identifies as having something to do with you is using the incorrect size measurements of Xena. Xena is actually about the same size as Pluto, not significantly larger. --Cyde Weys 17:13, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Featured picture promotion!

An image created by you has been promoted to featured picture status Your image, Image:Earth-Moon.png, was nominated on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate an image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Thank you for your contribution!

Congratulations! howcheng {chat} 23:56, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Orphaned fair use image (Image:Орига.jpeg)

Thanks for uploading Image:Орига.jpeg. I notice the 'image' page currently specifies that the image is unlicensed for use on Wikipedia and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable under fair use (see our fair use policy).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Rossrs 06:04, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Lucida Grande and Sans

You say, that Lucida Grande and Lucida Sans are nearly identical. I could not find any difference beside the extension of the glyph range. May you explain the differene?

Hi, It woould help if you put your own name, link to the particular page where you found the referece, and date on your messages when you leave them (your IP has no other edits listed). – — Nicholas (reply) @ 19:16, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Image:Pebblebeach par3.jpeg

Hi, there's been some confusion about an image you created (Image:Pebblebeach par3.jpeg). Could you clarify which hole the image shows? Thanks. --Tewy 06:21, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

• It looks like the hole has been identified [3]. Could you update the image page accordingly? --Tewy 22:39, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

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Honestly I donʼt even remember creating it. I will link to it from somewhere so that people notice it and can improve the article. — Nicholas (reply) @ 10:50, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

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Pâté

Hello Nickshanks,

Which pronunciation did you add in the Pâté article? Maybe you should make it clear, as in the Brioche article. FYI, the French pronunciation is [pɑte]. [4] Regards, Korg (talk) 23:26, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the edit! Korg (talk) 04:01, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey

You said you went to school with a guy named Andrew Gower in Joshteks profile?

Do you think you could tell me about him? I'm very interested in the stuff he does. Just tell me stuff like, what are his interests? Is he a nice guy? What did you guys program together? I'm very interested, you know. Please get back to me. :)

- Rob

Well he looks like a typical geek, skinny and nerdy, and he has long-ish (for a guy) brown hair. He was mostly into maths and playing around on the Arc's command line (that you get from pressing F12) and it's tokenised BASIC interpreter, since that's what our school had. Our physics teacher would give up his lunch break one day a week to supervise us in the computer lab, and when that was closed we would generally hang out by the computers in the library. We didn't work on the same programs, but I was always asking him for advice on programming matters (as he was in the year above me). Oh, and yes, he's a nice guy :-) — Nicholas (reply) @ 21:26, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much. :) Hey, you seem like a cool guy. Do you have an AIM, MSN, or Yahoo screen name? My AIM is rih29, MSN is fireflybeat@hotmail.com, and my Yahoo is mr.robert29. Oh, and I think you asked if the Andrew on that page was the guy you knew; I'm 99.9% positive that he's the guy. :)

-Rob

I do, they're on the front page of my website. — Nicholas (reply) @ 15:53, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Tredegar - famous residents

Nyes name was Aneurin... not sure why but he is mentioned twice on the Tredegar page ... maybe we need to include all the labour party people in the list? You need his full name to get the link to work Victuallers 18:17, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

thats ok.... my point was .... there used to be a list of people with bullets. Then a bit about the Labour party with other important people. One anonymous user added Nye to the first list and it was a redlink .... not sure if you re bothered but it seems odd that he is there twice. Victuallers 18:32, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

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RE: Looking for Andrew

I've e-mailed you my contact details. --Joshtek 20:57, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I have all of the IM contact details you put in your vCard, so if you can get on a messenger then we can chat. Or I'm on freenode as Joshtek. --Joshtek 21:06, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

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Edits to MESSENGER

Hi there. I noticed that you've been re-formatting the dates on the article for MESSENGER. I don't think those changes are appropriate because the dating seemed to be consistent and using the American system seems to make more sense for an American space mission. Could you please explain your reasoning? Matt Deres (talk) 01:38, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

I was about to post the same message! Though even as an American I agree that having the day first in dates makes more sense, still the American convention is to have it second. So we compromise as do with spelling: American spelling in articles on American history, English for articles on English history. In this case, the MESSENGER is more or less a NASA mission, in contrast to much more international missions. I think the dates should stay American. SBHarris 01:44, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi Guys. Well I wouldn't consider one format to be ‘American’ and one format to be ‘not American’. The are both common in Britain and I've seen both in US/Canadian written sources too, though I wouldn't be able to say which was more common there. I just personally feel it makes more sense to have the day in the same position that it would be pronounced. I realise that in the US short dates are written medium/small/large, but when the months are written out in full, there is no ambiguity. Secondly, I only noticed and made the edit because all the other dates on Wikipedia are in this format (DD MONTH YEAR). I left all the spellings intact given that the topic is US‐centric. I didn't consider that dates (other than short ones like 7/8/2010) fell under the US/RotW spelling rules — Nicholas (reply) @ 17:50, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

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Re: Ukulele

Do you live in Hawaii? Is it pronounced "oo-ke-le-le"? No, I don't think so. According to the Hawaiian language, the only correct spelling is "ukulele", not "ukelele". So, I'm sorry if you don't understand this, but you're actually wrong. :) Cuyler91093 (Contribs) 18:29, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I love the irony of your spelling choice of "spelt" in this post. :) Meanwhile, I'm fairly sure "inherintly" in your edit summary is a misspelling, just sayin' : P. --MPerel 21:14, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

The difference between spelled and spelt is a grammatical one, not a spelling one. And I don't know which is correct I just went with whatever sounded more correct. — Nicholas (reply) @ 06:34, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Nicholas, spelt refers to Triticum spelta, a form of wheat. —Viriditas | Talk 22:07, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but most words have an inherently correct spelling. Although not really applicable in English, in straightforward languages like Japanese and Hawaiian, there are only some valid spellings, as it is a phonetic language. Everything is said as it sounds. Cuyler91093 (Contribs) 04:09, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

We're not talking about the hawaiian or japanese languages, we're talking about the english language. just like tsunami, the word *came* from one of those, but now it exists in english too and is subject to english changes. The name of the instrument is pronounced by native british english speakers as "you-ke-lay-lee". The sound after the k is a schwa and schwas are mostly represented with the letter 'e'. Therefore ukelele is a fair representation of the pronunciation of the word. My point was that the english language has no notion of correct spelling, only common and uncommon. For example 'yin' and 'twa' are accurate phonetical spellings of the words one and two (normally pronounced 'won an too') in some parts of the UK. Should these pellings be deemed "incorrect". I advocate not.

It would would seem you have got your croonies to come and pass along their critique too. How noble of you. — Nicholas (reply) @ 06:34, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't think you quite understand. I know everybody says "you-ke-lay-le", but it's not correct. It's just not. Just like "yin" and "twa" are not correct. I don't mind how words of English origin have different spellings, but English should respect the words of origin for other languages. Take "karaoke" for example. Everybody I know not from Japan or Hawaii likes to say "carry-okey", but that's not right. I'm not sure I can convince you to believe me, but I stand by my case. Cuyler91093 (Contribs) 06:40, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough to stand by your case. I doubt I can convince you either. To resolve this, I suggest that you use Viriditas' suggestion of preferred spelling and remove the word 'incorrect'. You don't have to tell the world and his dog that the British spelling is incorrect, even if you believe so. Which is the correct spelling of colour/color, a word of French origin? Are you going to go around inserting 'incorrect' into every article? There have been many many edit wars on Wikipedia and I don't want to start another. I will stick to the 3RR. Please take my above resolution suggestion seriously, and thank you for responding calmly. — Nicholas (reply) @ 06:55, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

And, by the way, those "croonies" I believe you're referring to is only Viriditas, who is familiar with the Hawaiian culture like I. I was simply trying to ask his opinion on how to spell "ukulele", and he agreed with me. Cuyler91093 (Contribs) 06:42, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Do you not know MPerel? *shrug* We're not talking about Hawaiian culture though, we're talking about the common spellings of foreign-origin words in British English. — Nicholas (reply) @ 06:55, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Alright then, I guess I'm on a totally different page. Here we go, then. I agree with your original post about the whole color/colour. I don't believe that British English is entirely wrong, since American English seems to be the odd man out of all of the English dialects. If we aren't arguing about Hawaiian and Japanese words, then I'm all cool, because those are very personal to me, when people mess up Hawaiian and Japanese words. However, I guess you're right that sometimes it's not incorrect, but just another variant. Cuyler91093 (Contribs) 06:59, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

American english is based on a melting pot of (british) english dialects from the 17th century. Dialect words that later got drowned out in the UK survived and prospered in the americas. More power to them :) Canada, Australia, South Africa and India have their own variants of english that are more influenced by the UK English from the 19th and 20th centuries. The only reason the US is different is because it left the empire two centuries before anyone else. On the other hand, Hawaii was a british territory until recently so… well, who knows. For what it's worth I am a fan of minority, endangered and indigenous languages, and I'd classify Hawaiian among those. If I was Benevolent Dictator of the World, I'd force all Welsh people to learn welsh, all Hawaiians to learn Hawiian etc. And depopulate those places of immigrants. Then maybe the languages wouldn't die. Oh well, one can dream. — Nicholas (reply) @ 08:49, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Nick, Cuyler's point is that the word ʻukelele does not mean ʻukulele. The word ʻukulele means "jumping flea" (ʻuku: flea; lele: jump). The variant spelling would mean something entirely different. —Viriditas | Talk 07:16, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I didn't know that it meant anything. To me and I would presume most monoglot english speakers it's just an indivisible unit referring to something like a banjo. — Nicholas (reply) @ 08:49, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Now you've got me confused. :) I'm curious, why did you choose the word "banjo", here? —Viriditas | Talk 09:41, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Nick, ignore my last comment. Reading it again, I see you were just using it as an example. —Viriditas | Talk 11:30, 7 March 2008 (UTC)