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Ships of Homeworld

You know, we really don't need separate articles on all the ships in the Homeworld series; what about merging all of the relevant details into the Ships of Homeworld article?--Pharos 02:03, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

• There's only so much information on a topic like this that's appropriate for an encyclopedia, even an internet-based one. Please read Wikipedia:Fancruft. Additionally, the fan-created stuff doesn't really belong here at all, beyond maybe the barest mention. If you really want to include all these details you can do this at Wikicities, where you can create a special wiki just for Homeworld stuff.--Pharos 03:34, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
  • There is a huge number of details that goes into programming a game as complicated as Homeworld that really don't belong in a general encyclopedia. But the information does not have its own article doesn't have to be lost; much of it can be up-merged into summary pages and the really specific stuff can go in a Wikicity. How about if we do it this way: we'll have separate articles on the factions like the Kushan and separate articles on broad classes of ships like Motherships, but not articles on individual ship types.--Pharos 05:37, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
    • Look, your're still creating more fancruft-type articles. This level of detail is just not appropriate for Wikipedia. Please merge this info into summary articles/create a Wikicity for the details or I will have to start nominating these articles for deletion.--Pharos 09:39, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
      • Sorry, I didn't notice the time of creation of Kuudark Assault Frigate was only 3 minutes after my last message to you. I still await your reply to my above propsal.--Pharos 09:52, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

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Re: Zarmina's World

The original paper mentions "Zarmina's World" in passing as a thank you note to his wife. On the very last page, devoted to thanks and acknowledgments, it says:

SSV would like to extend a very special thanks to his wife Zarmina Dastagir for her patience, encouragement, and wise counsel. And even though, if confirmed, the habitable planet presented herein will officially be referred to by the name GJ 581g, it shall always be known to SSV as "Zarmina's World".[1]

I don't think it was intended to be as serious as the MSM is making it out to be. First of all, look at the history of the 492 exoplanets found so far; do any one of them have an unofficial name in use like this? I don't think they do. Check the various exoplanet database entries, and watch the NSF news conference video and the press releases from the NSF, NASA, Carnegie, and UCSC. This is a human interest angle that the MSM media is using to get people interested in a "hard" news story. It's not really relevant. Viriditas (talk) 07:30, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Your point is well-made and I'd be happy to remove it if the IAU comes up with something different. However, the idea's not entirely unprecedented. The dwarf planet Eris was referred to as Xena frequently before the name Eris was settled on.

I'm not suggesting a name change. I just think it's worth noting. Nivenus (talk) 07:53, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Why wasn't it noted by any of the official press releases or by SSV himself in the one-hour long press conference? If it was, please correct me. Again, this is a human interest angle, and as SSV said in the paper, it is only known by his wife's name to him, nobody else. "Xena" was a name that was actually used by the team. If we have evidence that "Zarmina" is actually in use, then yes, let's add it to the article. So far, we have no such evidence. As such, I don't think there is any comparison between Xena and Zarmina. Viriditas (talk) 07:58, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

I don't know, NASA (which I cited) seems like a legitimate source. Granted, it's a very light, just-for-fun site hosted on NASA, but it is run by actual researchers. Nivenus (talk) 07:59, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

I saw it, and like the other MSM, it's a human interest angle. I have no objection to you adding it to the discovery section (with future elaboration) but I don't think it belongs in the lead. Viriditas (talk) 08:07, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

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