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Administrators' newsletter – July 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2020).
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Guideline and policy news
- A request for comment is in progress to remove the T2 (template that misrepresents established policy) speedy deletion criterion.
Technical news
- Protection templates on mainspace pages are now automatically added by User:MusikBot II (BRFA).
Arbitration
- Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold an
RfC regarding on-wiki harassment
. The RfC has been posted at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Anti-harassment RfC and is open to comments from the community. - The Medicine case was closed, with a remedy authorizing standard discretionary sanctions for
all discussions about pharmaceutical drug prices and pricing and for edits adding, changing, or removing pharmaceutical drug prices or pricing from articles
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- Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold an
WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - July 2020
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15:59, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
Request for "un-revdel"
Regarding the revdel action at Ariarathes IX of Cappadocia, I have been contacted by CGPavlos, who points out that the copied text at CoinTalk.com was posted by him, and, according to that site's Terms and Rules, forum post authors retain copyright of the text they post there, so my tagging and your revdel action may not have been valid. I don't have access to the redacted copy, so I'm not sure if any reliable sources were cited. If not, there is no point restoring the text, but if sources were cited, it may be worth restoring the revdel'ed text so that it can be evaluated. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:44, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- @WikiDan61: The revdel'd content contains two references (Mørkholm, O. “The Coinages of Ariarathes VIII and Ariarathes IX of Cappadocia” in Essays Robinson & Mørkholm, O. “A Further Comment on the Coinages of Ariarathes VIII and Ariarathes IX” in QT 1975) so neither refer to cointalk.com. Other than the similarities in username we have no idea if CGPavlos is the person who made the contributions at cointalk and reading that site's T&Cs I don't see any cc-by-sa release. I'm not doubting it is the same person but I think it should go through OTRS to release that piece of text or probably easier is just rephrase it. Nthep (talk) 14:28, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- I've left him a note. Nthep (talk) 15:12, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the attention! WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:28, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
RD1 declined on Koeri
From Diff/965376741 to Diff/965381338
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Please reconsider the declination. {{reply to|Can I Log In}}'s talk page! 18:10, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. Links to Google books are difficult when you only get snippet views and the snippets can vary depending on where in the world you are. From where I am to google.in and nothing vaguely like this quote showed up. Nthep (talk) 18:33, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue CLXXI, July 2020
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Template:Whitehaven, Cleator and Egremont Railway RDT
Recently, as you will recall, you were instrumental in removing the non-existant station of Coulderton Halt from the Template:Cumbrian Coast Line RDT and I note that the same non-existant station still appears on the main line that is shown at the left of this particular RDT. Since you were the person who deleted Coulderton Halt on the other RDT, it only seems courteous to you if could you also do the same on this RDT.
Xenophon Philosopher (talk) 01:48, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
Many thanks for making the amendment.
Template:West Cumbrian Railways
Recently, you amended Template:Cumbrian Coast Line RDT to clarify the Piel branch line at the foot of the template, showing Salthouse Halt, Rampside, Piel stations. Can you be so kind as to similarly make the same clarification on this template, as Salthouse Halt seems to have been omitted. It may be useful to exactly repeat the style you used on the other template from Barrow-in-Furness onwards to the foot of the line diagram.
Has a decision been reached by Wikipedia on whether or not to delete this template?
Challenge Cup Finals
Sorry, but just another point regarding our previous discussion. Would you say that the 2011 Challenge Cup is worthy of having the final on a separate page. As it's pretty much identical to 2009 just missing the "Route to the final section"? Mn1548 (talk) 16:03, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Mn1548: I think it would be ok to split off but leave a summary behind like the 2016 etc have at the moment. Nthep (talk) 18:20, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
Undeletion request
Could you undelete File:Das Lachen wird ihnen vergehen!!!.jpg ? The issue with this file is that it's difficult or impossible to prove that it's public domain in US to the standards expected at A-class or FA review, so it needs to be marked fair use for the article. (t · c) buidhe 18:44, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Buidhe: If and when the Commons file is deleted, I'll restore it but as there doesn't appear to be any deletion discussion on Commons there doesn't appear to be a need for a non-free version here. Nthep (talk) 19:39, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- In order to for the article to pass image reviews at high levels (A-class or featured article), the image needs to demonstrate beyond significant doubt that it is free in the US as well as the source country. This is lower than the threshold for keeping on commons because Commons admins will usually refuse to delete files if they can be shown to be free in the source country. So unless the file is undeleted, I just don't see how I can nominate the article at these higher levels which I was planning to do... (t · c) buidhe 19:51, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Buidhe: Commons files have to be free in the US and the source country. If you don't think this file is PD in the US then you should ask for it to be deleted from Commons or have the discussion there as to whether or not it is free in the US. Depending on the outcome of that discussion will determine how we go here on wp. Nthep (talk) 20:08, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- In order to for the article to pass image reviews at high levels (A-class or featured article), the image needs to demonstrate beyond significant doubt that it is free in the US as well as the source country. This is lower than the threshold for keeping on commons because Commons admins will usually refuse to delete files if they can be shown to be free in the source country. So unless the file is undeleted, I just don't see how I can nominate the article at these higher levels which I was planning to do... (t · c) buidhe 19:51, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – August 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2020).
Administrator changes
Oversight changes
Guideline and policy news
- There is an open request for comment to decide whether to increase the minimum duration a sanction discussion has to remain open (currently 24 hours).
- Speedy deletion criterion T2 (template that misrepresents established policy) has been repealed following a request for comment.
- Speedy deletion criterion X2 (pages created by the content translation tool) has been repealed following a discussion.
- There is a proposal to restrict proposed deletion to confirmed users.
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXII, August 2020
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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:06, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2020).
Administrator changes
CheckUser changes
Guideline and policy news
- Following a request for comment, the minimum length for site ban discussions was increased to 72 hours, up from 24.
- A request for comment is ongoing to determine whether paid editors
must
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use the articles for creation process. - A request for comment is open to resolve inconsistencies between the draftification and alternative to deletion processes.
Arbitration
- A request for comment is open to provide an opportunity to amend the structure, rules, and procedures of the 2020 English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee election and to resolve any issues not covered by existing rules.
- An open request for comment asks whether active Arbitrators may serve on the Trust and Safety Case Review Committee or Ombudsman commission.
File:KIAH 2018 Logo.png
Hi Nthep. Would you mind taking a look at File:KIAH 2018 Logo.png? The file appears to be licensed as {{PD-logo}} which means it's older versions are not subject to WP:F5. I'm not sure why the bot tagged it as such, but perhaps there some syntax mistake that's causing the bot to still treat the file as non-free. — Marchjuly (talk) 22:10, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
- I asked the uploader of the most recent version about this at User talk:Mrschimpf#File:KIAH 2018 Logo.png and their response at User talk:Marchjuly#KIAH seems to indicate that they feel the version they uploaded is non-free. I'm not seeing that per c:COM:TOO United States but if that's the case, then the older PD version shouldn't have really been overwritten by a new non-free version. Even if both files are PD but significantly different, there was still no need to overwrite the older version. Can you restore the older versions and then split the most recent version off as a separate file if it's significatnly different? -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:41, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- The bot did nothing wrong, it saw a file marked with {{Orphaned non-free revisions}} and acted accordingly i.e. flagging it for human revision. The errors were both human. Nate shouldn't have tagged the file with this template as it is labelled as a free (PD-textlogo) file and I shouldn't have deleted the old revisions without noticing that it was a PD image. I've reverted the file to the 2018 logo and uploaded the 2020 logo as a separate file File:KIAH 2020 Logo.png. Nthep (talk) 16:47, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for rechecking this. I also apologize for the tone of my posts. I was only trying to find out why this had happened and it wasn't my intent to accuse anyone (even a bot) of doing anything wrong. In hindsight, I probably should've phrased things different. Thank you again. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:17, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
- The bot did nothing wrong, it saw a file marked with {{Orphaned non-free revisions}} and acted accordingly i.e. flagging it for human revision. The errors were both human. Nate shouldn't have tagged the file with this template as it is labelled as a free (PD-textlogo) file and I shouldn't have deleted the old revisions without noticing that it was a PD image. I've reverted the file to the 2018 logo and uploaded the 2020 logo as a separate file File:KIAH 2020 Logo.png. Nthep (talk) 16:47, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- No apology necessary, there was nothing wrong with the tone but I thought it needed a full explanation of what had happened. Nthep (talk) 08:49, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
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Books & Bytes – Issue 40
The Wikipedia Library
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Issue 40, July – August 2020
- New partnerships
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- AfLIA hires a Wikipedian-in-Residence
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The Bugle: Issue Issue CLXXIII, September 2020
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Semi-protection
You just applied semi-protection to the Basque mythology page for 36 hours. The problem is not solved with a Semi-protection. The user Akerbeltz acts like this continuously and repeatedly. 7 rollbacks in the last 24 hours, violates the three rollback rule 3RR, and the edit war BRD. As I say, it is not the first time and I am very afraid that it will not be the last. Applying semi-protection to the page he always wins and gets away with it. This person has been reported several times for this reason but uses administrator privileges and always wins. This is a serious matter of privileges of administrators who use them who use them with premeditation and treachery to violate the established laws of Wikipedia, someone should take action on the matter and restrict or cancel their privileges when they use them to break laws.--85.85.193.226 (talk) 16:38, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- @85.85.193.226: and you were equally at fault in edit-warring and failing to go with BRD. No one is getting away with it, I asked you both to discuss on the talk page, which you have although not to any consensus as yet. If you cannot agree then you should look to getting a Third opinion or some other form of dispute resolution. The semi-protection stops the edit war on the article even if it does not stop the two of you disagreeing on the talk page. Nthep (talk) 16:45, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
You're right. Thank you very much.--85.85.193.226 (talk) 20:03, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
Milhist coordinator election voting has commenced
G'day everyone, voting for the 2020 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche is now open. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2020. Thanks from the outgoing coord team, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:18, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2020).
Administrator changes
Ajpolino • LuK3
Jackmcbarn
Ad Orientem • Harej • Lid • Lomn • Mentoz86 • Oliver Pereira • XJaM
There'sNoTime → TheresNoTime
Guideline and policy news
- A request for comment found consensus that incubation as an alternative to deletion should generally only be recommended when draftification is appropriate, namely
1) if the result of a deletion discussion is to draftify; or 2) if the article is newly created
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- A request for comment found consensus that incubation as an alternative to deletion should generally only be recommended when draftification is appropriate, namely
Technical news
- The filter log now provides links to view diffs of deleted revisions (phab:T261630).
Arbitration
- The 2020 CheckUser and Oversight appointment process has begun. The community consultation period will take place from September 27th to October 7th.
- Following a request for comment, sitting Committee members may not serve on either the Ombuds Commission or the WMF Case Review Committee. The Arbitration Committee passed a motion implementing those results into their procedures.
Miscellaneous
- The Universal Code of Conduct draft is open for community review and comment until October 6th, 2020.
- Office actions may now be appealed to the Interim Trust & Safety Case Review Committee.