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Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion

This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident in which you may be involved. The thread is Electronic ticket. Thank you. - Brianhe (talk) 14:18, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi

Hello you can't use google as a source in articles. Thank you TypingInTheSky (talk) 21:06, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

This response, "A patent application for Electronic Ticketing and Reservation System and Method was filed on Nov 21, 1994, and a Publication Number was issued on March 3, 1998 (US5724520) recognizing Joel R. Goheen as the Inventor." is to simply provide fact based information as to when the electronic ticket in the airline industry was devised (at least by evidence of a government office document as to a claim). Further, as described in WP:PATENTS, as to reliability,

Thus both issued patents and patent applications have extremely limited use as sources on Wikipedia: They are reliable for simple, descriptive statements about their existence (e.g., "A patent was issued on to Alice Expert on May 5, 2010..."). They are reliable for attributed statements about their contents (e.g., "According to five-year-old inventor Steven Olson in his application for US Patent #6,368,227, issued in 2002, he invented swinging sideways because swinging back and forth might get boring.")

There is no intention to offend any guidelines as to reliability. Possible answer or not: What other credible, reliable and supportable answers are there to describe, in more relevant and descriptable terms, what electronic ticketing in the airline industry is today (A method and system of issuing an electronic authorization and validation for pre-scheduled activities such as airline reservations to eliminate paper tickets.)?

What better reliable source could be used other than the United States Patent Office? (Patent Number US 5724520 A)? Nyccontrib (talk) 23:41, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

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Hello, Nyccontrib, welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions. Your editing pattern indicates that you may be using multiple accounts or coordinating editing with people outside Wikipedia, such as Securxx1 (talk · contribs). Our policy on multiple accounts usually does not allow this, and users who use multiple accounts may be blocked from editing. If you operate multiple accounts directly or with the help of another person, please disclose these connections. Thank you. -- intgr [talk] 21:22, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

This response, "A patent application for Electronic Ticketing and Reservation System and Method was filed on Nov 21, 1994, and a Publication Number was issued on March 3, 1998 (US5724520) recognizing Joel R. Goheen as the Inventor." is to simply provide fact based information as to when the electronic ticket in the airline industry was devised (at least by evidence of a government office document as to a claim). Further, as described in WP:PATENTS, as to reliability,

Thus both issued patents and patent applications have extremely limited use as sources on Wikipedia: They are reliable for simple, descriptive statements about their existence (e.g., "A patent was issued on to Alice Expert on May 5, 2010..."). They are reliable for attributed statements about their contents (e.g., "According to five-year-old inventor Steven Olson in his application for US Patent #6,368,227, issued in 2002, he invented swinging sideways because swinging back and forth might get boring.")

There is no intention to offend any guidelines as to reliability. Possible answer or not: What other credible, reliable and supportable answers are there to describe, in more relevant and descriptable terms, what electronic ticketing in the airline industry is today (A method and system of issuing an electronic authorization and validation for pre-scheduled activities such as airline reservations to eliminate paper tickets.)?

What better reliable source could be used other than the United States Patent Office? (Patent Number US 5724520 A)? Nyccontrib (talk) 23:41, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

This is not a boilerplate message

Hey if you didn't know, your actions at Electronic ticket are being noticed at increasingly higher levels. The article is now on 40 editors' watchlists and it's on two noticeboards. If you want to stay around at Wikipedia, you really should pay attention to the warnings you're getting. – Brianhe (talk) 23:56, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

This response, "A patent application for Electronic Ticketing and Reservation System and Method was filed on Nov 21, 1994, and a Publication Number was issued on March 3, 1998 (US5724520) recognizing Joel R. Goheen as the Inventor." is to simply provide fact based information as to when the electronic ticket in the airline industry was devised (at least by evidence of a government office document as to a claim). Further, as described in WP:PATENTS, as to reliability,

Thus both issued patents and patent applications have extremely limited use as sources on Wikipedia:

They are reliable for simple, descriptive statements about their existence (e.g., "A patent was issued on to Alice Expert on May 5, 2010...").

They are reliable for attributed statements about their contents (e.g., "According to five-year-old inventor Steven Olson in his application for US Patent #6,368,227, issued in 2002, he invented swinging sideways because swinging back and forth might get boring.")

There is no intention to offend any guidelines as to reliability. Possible answer or not: What other credible, reliable and supportable answers are there to describe, in more relevant and descriptable terms, what electronic ticketing in the airline industry is today (A method and system of issuing an electronic authorization and validation for pre-scheduled activities such as airline reservations to eliminate paper tickets.)?

What better reliable source could be used other than the United States Patent Office? (Patent Number US 5724520 A)? Nyccontrib (talk) 23:41, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

I looked at the content dispute you are involved in, which involves attempts to add the following to the article:

"A patent application for Electronic Ticketing and Reservation System and Method was filed on Nov 21, 1994, and a Publication Number was issued on March 3, 1998 (US5724520) recognizing Joel R. Goheen as the Inventor."

While researching this, I ran across [ http://www.delawareiplaw.com/files/2014/06/07-575.pdf ], which says in part:

"A review of the prosecution history further confirms that Plaintiff's proposed construction is inappropriate. During prosecution, the examiner focused on two pieces of prior art: u.s. Patent No. 6,067,532 issued to Lucas Gebb ("Gebb") and u.s. Patent No. 5,724,520 issued to Joel R. Goheen ("Goheen"). Both Gebb and Goheen pertain to ticketing systems. Gebb discloses that the ticket buyer "can use a ticketless entry into the event, such as, for example, by an e-token on a smart card." (0.1. 51, Exh. B at 7:12-13.) Goheen discloses that airline passengers can access an airplane using "an identification plastic card" that has a "card number encoded onto a magnetic strip at the back" and that, if the card is lost, passengers can gain access to the airplane using identification 'such as a driver's license or the like'"

This calls into question the claim that Joel R. Goheen is the inventor of the electronic ticket. Certainly we need a better source than a patent, which is simply Joel R. Goheen claiming that he invented something.

Joel R. Goheen himself may be notable enough for a BLP article, based on sources like this.[1] --Guy Macon (talk) 02:06, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

I doubt that Mr. Goheen would be happy with the BLP article, seeing as how the reliable sources say things like "The state attorney general on Wednesday charged Shuttle America and several affiliated companies with deceptive trade practices and civil theft, saying the firms accepted money from potential employees and did not provide promised jobs.... Also named in the suit are Joel R. Goheen, president of the JRG companies and founder of Shuttle America"[2] and "[Securities and Exchange Commision] administrative proceedings instituted against JRG Trust Corporation, individually and formerly doing business as Shuttle America and Joel Goheen"[3] Nor is it clear to me that such an article would meet our WP:GNG standards. --Guy Macon (talk) 17:24, 30 October 2015 (UTC)--Guy Macon (talk) 17:24, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

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