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Noonie Bao

In regards to your removal of the refimprove template added to Noonie Bao's article by Hayman30, the refimprove template does not concern only the lead paragraph/lede. It concerns the whole article. There is basically no maintenance template used at the top of an article that concerns only the lead section besides Template:Lead too short, so if articles are tagged with a template, it is not referring to just the lead. I didn't restore the template, as the article appears to have adequate sourcing, but also in regards to your edit summary—it is not forbidden for lead sections to have references, especially if a contentious claim is made within the introduction and may be challenged without one present. While lead sections primarily do function as the summary of an article's contents and therefore what is in them is generally sourced in the body, they can still introduce sources if a user thinks it is prudent to do so. Ss112 18:24, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Ignite music video

I noticed that you changed the source of the music video for Ignite to this, which actually links to the music video for Alone, on Alan Walker discography. I've restored the source to Mynewsdesk's one. Thank you. Hayman30 (talk) 10:51, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

I mistakenly added a wrong link. It should be fixed now. OnWikiNo (talk) 10:59, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

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Hi! Thank you for your edit to Skam (TV series). However, in the future, it would be helpful to make edits with different purposes in separate edits. That way, other editors who disagree can revert specific changes rather than every change in one edit. Just something to think about :) And while I am writing here, please use edit summaries. Not only are they a fantastic way to understand what changes were made in the revision history without needing to check every edit, but they are also just a great way to explain motivations behind ambiguous edits that others might not understand. Have a great day! LocalNet (talk) 12:13, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

@LocalNet: Hi! And thank you for responding. I am going to use edit summaries in future edits. I am aware of this feature, but in this case I only changed something minor. One example is the definition (in the lead) of young adult which is a person from the age 20 and upwards, but Skam is about students in upper secondary school which mainy are persons from the age 16 to 19. Then this definition wouldn't apply, and teen would be a better runner up classification. Have a great day too! --OnWikiNo (talk) 12:53, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

@OnWikiNo: I agree with that change, so that's no problem :) But my main potential objection surrounding the edit was adding wikilinks for Norway and Norwegian. I think those wikilinks can be helpful, so I haven't reverted it, but sticking strictly to policy, MOS:OVERLINK states that "The names of major geographic features, locations" do not need to be wikilinked. So that's a potential bold edit that normally would be much easier to handle if it was made in a separate edit :) LocalNet (talk) 13:03, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

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Isaiah Firebrace

Just letting you know, I've undone your addition of Aboriginal Australian to the opening sentence of Isaiah Firebrace. It is not necessary to point out someone's race in the opening sentence of an article. Other Indigenous Australian musicians' articles (for example, Jessica Mauboy) do not point this out. This is not standard on Wikipedia, as this is tantamount to putting in the lead sentence of Oprah Winfrey: "Oprah Winfrey is an African American media proprietor", and we do not do this. Isaiah's article is already categorised with Category:Indigenous Australian musicians. Unless it is otherwise notable that he is of Indigenous Australian heritage, it does not really need to be pointed out. Ss112 15:57, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

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First Time

The external music video template is for music videos only, lyrics videos and audio videos are not considered as music videos, as I was told by an experienced editor. Funny thing is, "lyrics video" redirects to music video. I have been reverted before for adding the lyrics video of Something Just Like This to the page using that template.

Just because it was done on a previous single doesn't mean the action itself is okay, we cannot assume what other editors do is correct. Thank you. Hayman30 (talk) 11:51, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

That's fine. Thanks for letting me know.--OnWikiNo (talk) 12:33, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

Tired

Hello, OnWikiNo. Please help expand Tired (Alan Walker song) if you can, thank you. Hayman30 (talk) 13:11, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Hello, @Hayman30: I will try when more material, and relevant information are published. OnWikiNo (talk) 13:35, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Israel withdrawal

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Old Norse

Please, instead of just rolling back my change and calling it "unexplained", see my post on the talkpage.Berig (talk) 09:23, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Jowst

Even the Norwegian Wiki page states "JOWST" in all-caps is a stylisation. Surely the English Wikipedia should be consistent, no? Ss112 18:42, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

@Ss112: I don't know. Haven't read the Norwegian Wiki page. But multiple sources writes Joakim's artist name just as "JOWST" instead of "Jowst" through the articles. As opposed and as an example, I can name Kygo who stylises his artistic name as "KYGO", but there the media choose to write his name just like "Kygo". Why do you think this occurs? Why does the media choose to capitalize Jowst but not Kygo as a default? -OnWikiNo (talk) 19:04, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Where does Kygo stylise his name as "KYGO"? His Facebook and Twitter accounts, for example, both just have "Kygo". As for what sources say, news sources also generally capitalise prepositions in the titles of songs and albums, but we've decided not to do that on Wikipedia per MOS:CT. All-caps brand names and artist names, unless they directly stand for first letters, are considered stylisations and generally end up lower-case. It's kind of a case-by-case basis thing. Ss112 19:12, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

@Ss112: I see the points that you try to explain, so I will not comment anything more about it. When it comes to Kygo, different tabloids have written his name in capital letters and his products and logos contain uppercase letters. What his Facebook or Twitter pages says is not a good excuse or in that case source to make a point. --OnWikiNo (talk) 19:26, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Are you referring to the cross logo that has the letters K, Y, G, O around an X? That's just a stylisation and wouldn't indicate we should capitalise that. Some fonts artists use on their albums are all-capital fonts, but more obviously, capital letters just stand out more. Google search results don't show any all-caps of Kygo in news sources on the first page, but I'm sure there are some out there, as you say, just that it doesn't seem to be the standard. I generally would think that if an artist was intent on having their name capitalised normally, Kygo would have capitalised his name on his social media accounts, like, for instance, JOWST has. It's not an "excuse" as I'm not defending how Kygo's name should be written because it doesn't appear that you want to go add capitals to Kygo's articles and we're already going off on a tangent here, but I think it's a good point and starting place for how an artist personally prefers their name typed out in ordinary text. For instance, if they were an up-and-coming act generating buzz through the Internet, their accounts would be one of the first ports of call for writers who want to learn more about who they are, who would then replicate said stylisation in their articles—otherwise they would not know what to call them. Ss112 19:39, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

I was not only referring to that, but that's OK. I'll leave it there. It is obviously a "complicated" topic, and can certainly be discussed back and forth before it becomes a consensus. Thanks anyway. --OnWikiNo (talk) 19:51, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Declaration of Independence of Norway

Hi I just reviewed you redirect page creation and I wonder if a more logical target would be Constitution of Norway. From what I can gather this was in fact the declaration of independence and the meeting of notables led up to this. What do you think? Domdeparis (talk) 15:52, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Hello. You have a good point, and I have now changed the target to Constitution of Norway. --OnWikiNo (talk) 17:49, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Norwegian Hereditary Empire excluding Greenland.png

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Norse

Hello. I looked through the disambiguation page named Norse and corrected a number of blatant errors and misunderstandings there, and noticed that you had added "mediaeval Norwegian" as one of the meanings of the word, which might explain a number of errors in other articles. In the English language Norse does not refer to mediaeval Norwegians but is a catch-all word for all peoples who spoke the Old Norse language, the language that was spoken by all the Germanic peoples who inhabited Scandinavia between ~800AD and ~1300AD (i.e. Danes, Swedes, Norwegians and their descendants overseas), and "East Norse" and "West Norse" that were mentioned on that page (with links that are just redirects to the correct names, "Old East Norse" and "Old West Norse", and the relevant sections on "Old Norse") were dialects of that common Scandinavian language (i.e. Old Norse), and not separate languages. "East Norse" and "West Norse" are also not names for the modern-day Scandinavian languages, not in English at least, instead those languages are classified as the East Scandinavian (Danish and Swedish) and West Scandinavian (Norwegian, Faroese, Icelandic) branches of North Germanic. Since all Germanic Scandinavians back then spoke the same language, shared the same culture and were of the same ethnic type they were all described as being Norse, regardless of which part of Scandinavia they came from, they also had a habit of mixing, particularly Danes, Norwegians and people from the southwestern part of modern day Sweden, since they sailed west (while the rest of the Swedes sailed east), so seeing a settlement or a kingdom being described as being Norse gives no clue as to which part of Scandinavia the people there came from. And in most cases they didn't care themselves either, so let's not try to claim Norse settlements/kingdoms/armies etc as being Norwegian or any other nationality, unless very reliable sources say that they without doubt were one or the other. - Tom | Thomas.W ^talk 18:32, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

List of possessions of Norway

Hello. Please think before editing. The article claims that the Kingdom of Northumbria was under Norwegian rule (which in English at least means that it was ruled by the Kingdom of Norway...), and as a source for that you add a source that says that Canute gave the Kingdom of Northumbria to a Norwegian named "Eric of Hlathir", who might have been the same person as Eric Bloodaxe, who according to that article might have been king of Norway for a while, but sources differ on that point. And even if Erik of Hlathir and Eric Bloodaxe were one and the same there's still the problem that he wasn't king of Norway and king of Northumbria at the same time, which of course means that the Kingdom of Northumbria was never under the control of the Kingdom of Norway, as claimed in the article. This is an article in an encyclopaedia, and we need good solid sources that support all content, not wild speculations, original research or syntheses of published sources. So stop. - Tom | Thomas.W ^talk 18:44, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

It says "Norwegian" as in "Norwegian king(s)" or "Vikings", meaning sphere of influence. It isn't written any places that it was "ruled by the Kingdom of Norway". I never claimed that. Read before you accuse. --OnWikiNo (talk) 18:52, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

I hope that was meant as a joke, since an article with the name "List of possessions of Norway" can't possibly refer to anything other than a list of areas that belong to, or have belonged to, the country named Norway. Not in English at least... - Tom | Thomas.W ^talk 19:05, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Do NOT list the claims in Finland and Russia as possessions of Norway, but list them under a separate heading named "Territorial claims". If you don't know the difference between a claim and a possession I suggest you look it up in Wiktionary (claim, possession; hint: claim means "a demand of ownership for something" while territorial possession means "a territory under the rule of another country"). - Tom | Thomas.W ^talk 19:16, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

I know the differences. The heading says "Former contested possessions and claims". The last ones listed are supposed to be only unformal claims, but I see that I could be more precise. The first ones are also not ruled, but a more formal claim by the previous governments. I have also considered splitting the article to avoid misinterpretations, but suppose it will be quickly nominated for deletion. --OnWikiNo (talk) 19:48, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Adding unsourced singles

Hi. In future, when adding singles to a Norwegian artist's page as you have done many times to Astrid S and so on, please source what you're adding, otherwise it's unsourced and other editors don't know where you're getting this information from. Singles need to be sourced as well, because often it is controversial and disputed what is and what is not a commercial single. Thanks. Ss112 14:50, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

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Hello. I have reverted your edit on List of active separatist movements in Europe since what is being discussed in Yorkshire is devolution, i.e. internal self-governance like what a number of other regions within the UK already have, not becoming and independent country. - Tom | Thomas.W ^talk 11:08, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

List of possessions of Norway, again

Hello, I have removed Denmark from the list since Denmark and Norway were in a personal union (see Denmark and Norway in that article), i.e. two separate countries sharing the same king, just like Norway was in a personal union with Sweden between 1814 and 1905 (and I doubt you consider Norway to have been a possession of Sweden during those years...). Also see the article about Magnus the Good, which expressly states that he was King of Norway and King of Denmark, listing them as separate kingdoms. - Tom | Thomas.W ^talk 18:21, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

@Thomas.W: Norway was in a personal union with Denmark (and Sweden) in the Kalmar Union as a sovereignty entity, still many claims that Norway was an integrated part of Denmark - since it was ruled under a single monarch from Copenhagen. The header says "Briefly-ruled kingdoms". It doesn't says that Norway owned Denmark as a possesion, but rather that it was ruled from Norway. Norway was ruled from Sweden (1814 to 1905) as sovereign, but it was still not a possession. Please take the time to see the difference. Yes, Denmark was mentioned on the "List of possessions of Norway" page, and I can agree it can be missleading. It should preferably been mentioned in it's own article, but that's another subject. --OnWikiNo (talk) 18:53, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Denmark was briefly ruled by Magnus the Good, alongside Norway, but not under "Norwegian rule". Having the same king and being ruled by Norway are two vastly different things (the UK, Australia, Canada and New Zealand have the same queen, but Australia, Canada and New Zealand are most definitely not under UK rule...). If your English isn't good enough for you to understand what other articles here say, or what sources say (as with your claim about an "independence movement" in Yorkshire), you shouldn't edit the English language Wikipedia, but stick to the Norwegian one... - Tom | Thomas.W ^talk 19:09, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

@Thomas.W: You should really stop pursuing and monitoring people. And stop saying that I "claimed" anything, just because I mentioned it. If anyone thinks its synthesis, then discuss first to reach a consensus and then remove/keep it. No matter what you say, I will always contribute to the English Wikipedia. Live with it. I understand English better than you think, but I do not bother anymore about checking your "presented" facts, since you are too deceptive to be taken serious. The reason why I not always add sources to my contributions in real time is that I didn't bother to retrieve the sources I previously read. Thats because I sometimes can be lazy, and NOT because I've "made it up". I have a life outside Wikipedia, which you apparently do not. If you are serious enough, teach yourself to examine whether the asserted information is correct or not by looking up sources, instead of attacking others with words. Just look at your talk page, it says it all. Wikipedia is about collaborating, not personal attacks because you do not agree. I managed to find sources to confirm multiple of my "claims" you insisted was original research. Again, your opinion was wrong… --OnWikiNo (talk) 20:31, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

I'm not "pursuing and monitoring people", but I am monitoring articles (or to be precise the ~12,000 pages I have on my watchlist), and yes, Wikipedia is about collaboration, but not at the expense of everything else, because articles being correct and properly sourced is more important than that. And being busy in real life (or even worse being lazy), is not an excuse for repeatedly adding unsourced material, if you're too busy in real life to find reliable sources you shouldn't edit at all. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a blog or a forum for people who like to indulge in fantasies, and when I first noticed this article and its companion article, then named "Norwegian empire", they were both among the worst garbage I have seen here (with claims both in "Norwegian empire" and here about about Norway having had colonies in North America, and in "Norwegian empire" there have also been claims about Norway having "dominated international slave trade" and "Old West Norse being one of the great classical languages, along with Latin and Greek"...), and in desperate need of being cleaned up. So no I'm not going to let off, and let you add unsubstantied fantasy material anywhere. And please note that persistent addition of unsourced material is a blockable offence here... - Tom | Thomas.W ^talk 20:56, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Oh, and in a phrase like "Like Man, Norse Dublin was, nominally at least, under Norwegian suzerainty" "nominally" applies to both Dublin and Mann, since it's just another way of saying that "Dublin was, nominally at least, under Norwegian suzerainty, just like Mann". - Tom | Thomas.W ^talk 19:29, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

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