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Notes

How to call/ping a Wiki- user { { ping | UserID } }

(objectively critiquing rich pedantic, technocratic snobulardes )

I spent my Thanksgiving alone w/ my cat, but was up the night b4 'til 3AM jamming w/ some pals & then went back Friday for turkey.

• 'If the plight of the poor is caused not by the forces of nature, but by our social norms, then grave is our sin.' - Darwin

note: I heard editing Star Trek stuff here is worse than comics books ...it figures Thanx Joe H.

source for Letia Lerner

i don't know how to add footnote citations, but the whole Letia Lerner tale is in the foreward of 'Bizarro Comics #1' TPB

References

http://www.qualityjollity.com/bio.php

"Baker did pre-production character design on Dreamworks' SHREK feature film. "

the youtube vids were listed under REFERENCES:

References

* Kyle Baker at the Grand Comics Database
* Kyle Baker at the Comic Book DB
* Kyle Baker at the Unofficial Handbook of Marvel Comics Creators
* George Clinton video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ3en5-HzyE @ ~1:02
* Interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK1Jds0OVuE
* Interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GSGCiUJAV8
* SHOWTIME Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ySl3InQS1g

who is ur superior? ...cause ur NOT doing a 'line-item' veto, u simply WHITE-washing EVERYTHING I DID which surmounts to laziness & apathy on ur behalf. U r usurping ur power (q.v.)

This is a fact: Shaq O'Neil is financially backing Kyle's film-animation studio and one of the first projects is to create a "Fat Albert & The Cosby Kids" type web-cartoon. ...

Please do me the same courtesy & line-item 'veto' my errors, as my time is just as valuable as urs. Thank you

A request for admin intervention has been placed at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Kyle Baker. --Tenebrae (talk) 15:21, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

ugh

a journalist considerably older than 37. User:Tenebrae 13 November 2010

For the record, your comment on the admin noticeboard that "he apparently is taking my edit as some sort of 'blasphemy' to his hobby" is both inaccurate and uncalled-for. I've been civil throughout, but that kind of talk and assumption-making really is inexcusable. --Tenebrae 19:44, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Kyle DOES have a unique wit...he once threw himself down a flight of stairs @ Hunter CHS ...that kinda puts him in a category w/ Chevy Chase, no ?

He is a motor-mouth too ! I sat next to him last Christmas/Festivus & he wouldn't shut up, in fact I almost choked on a piece of turkey, cuz of his babbling, u may ask his brother Edwin...he noticed the whole thing! LOL ! Kyle's grandfather is 93, a Tuskeegee grad & a direct descendant of Lewis Adams ! I have several pix of us together Peace is contagious]] 21:02, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

French say, "Il n'y a pas les sots incomodes, mais ce qui ont de l'esprit." Peace is contagious 23:16, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

more notes

Just out of curiosity: why did you abandon the account for this one? I understand if you didn't want to keep using your real name (if that's what it is) - it happens all the time. Cheers :> Doc talk 01:09, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

I did have a corrupt systems file on my hard drive, this Spring & I had to partition it, I think I used to log in w/ my Google Acnt. How do u know about that acnt both have my IP add. ? I didn't even know it was still floating around Peace is contagious (talk) 01:15, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Because both accounts have extensively edited Monkees articles, and wikistalk showed edits to articles like Meister Eckhart, Kyle Baker and Hunter College High School. This[1] edit summary kinda made it "crystal clear". Cool - now how's about ceasing the personal attacks on this editor immediately? I recommend you stop harassing him, because it is disruptive and will lead to a block, I'm sure. Sound good? Good luck :> Doc talk 01:22, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

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Editing Kyle Baker

I think it important to show that Kyle attended Hunter College HS, for the epistemological & developmental psyche value; so as young kids see that higher education is the key to success. It's a very high quality education for FREE, if u pass the 6th grade entrance exam (only aprox 11% do), Cheryl passed it the next year & Ed the year after her; thanx much to Kyle's giving them pointers on the test, which included 9th grade math.

I also think it's important to show that (Redacted)

(Redacted)

What kind of evidence is needed to show that Kyle participated in creating the Shrek Donkey ? he put sketches on his new web-site...

'Truth' should be listed as notable works as Kyle's African-American themed work will (eventually) be seen as part of his 'legacy' (q.v.)

I wasn't trying to be 'fannish' or even 'promote' Kyle, but I do think he's a fascinating Afro-merican individual, in a day when we now have 'blacks' slowly 'movin-on-up' in American society and the 1st 'mulatto' President.

The George Clinton 'Martial Law' video should be mentioned, Comedian Sinbad & RHCP's bassist Flea are in it too.

Part of the reason Kyle received financial backing from Shaq is his Afro-American themed works. @ Xmas last year, Kyle said (Redacted)

24 hrs seems like a fair punishment, I have no qualms. "Love means never having to apologize" - Eric Segal ;0) The worst part of my day is (Redacted) ...damn I wish he did, that'd be worth something !!! Peace is contagious (talk) 19:31, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Let's take your points one by one: "Kyle attended Hunter College HS ... 1/2 Afro-merican." Please provide reliable-source citations. In the case of biographies of living persons, uncited personal material can be removed immediately.

"Shrek Donkey" -- He also calls himself "the greatest cartoonist in the world," taking it seriously enough to put a trademark tag by it. His website shows his Shrek Donkey art. Was it used or discarded in favor of other designs? Did he work on spec for a day or spend months as an animator there? We don't know. We need a disinterested third-party source to verify his claims, especially when Baker himself says in an interview that he lies.

"Truth" being notable: That's solely an opinion, and it is not widely shared. It won no awards, it received generally negative reviews, and perhaps most significantly, Baker did not write it.

"George Clinton 'Martial Law' video" -- Find a citation and add it to filmography

LOL, I would SO LOVE TO MEET U !!! You must really love comics ! Kyle is (Redacted) to which Kyle responded 'I wrote that, anyone can say that', that's the nature of US marketing, just ask Howard Stern AKA "King of All Media"

OK, I thunk Kyle wrote Truth, or as Cheryl & I joke 'Trufe' based on David Allen Grier's 'Crank Yankers' skits. Maybe it didn't receive good reviews, but how can u NOT realize the significance of the premise, as (didactic) historical fiction ! The Tuskegee experiments were a human atrocity! ...akin to more something Adolph Hitler, Idi Amin or Stalin, may be associated with. Kyle recently spoke @ Howard, & then at Univ. of Montreal(?) or Quebec for $2000. He is slowly but surely making a name as a 'black rights' historian/informant/advocate (not sure the correct term there). Let me point out here that Bill Cosby was NEVER EVEN NOMINATED for an Emmy for 'The Cosby Show' !!! yet it was #1 in Nielsen ratings for ~4 yrs. In fact Robert Guilliam is the ONLY black actor to receive a Lead Comedy male Emmy, for Benson in 1985?. So just because no awards were given for Truth...the Monkees film Head was sorta panned, yet today, 30 years later has great artistic significance & merit. Nietzsche was not received well in his day, but has been put on a par w/ Shakespeare & Plato by scholars. Mathematician Godfried Liebnitz 'invented' binary counting 256 before the 1st computer !

Again (Redacted) for the Shrek Donkey. (Redacted). btw who doesn't 'lie all the time' ?? It depends HOW 1 interprets what that means exactly ...& also WHY he lies. (Redacted)

G. Clinton video: Kyle's @ 1:02-1:15 http://thebakersanimationcartoons.blogspot.com/2009/01/george-clinton-martial-law.html Not sure where to find the actual video production 'credits'. I tried imdb.com (Redacted)

I don't think I got a sadistic kick out of 'pranking you'. I thought u had some formal authority here, given the blue 'medal' on ur page & were just refusing to consider any of my ideas...my bad.

It's ironic that u did not footnote the 'behind the scenes tale' of the Letia Lerner story after all ur preaching, but I'm pretty sure the intro/foreward in Bizarro #1 TPB has the tale told well, which I listed in the Ref section, but u deleted yest.

The Elseworlds issue not being distributed in North America IS footnoted, by footnote #8.

Amazon.com is a commercial sales site. We are not allowed to link to any page primarily designed to sell things.

IMDb is allowed as a "further reading" external link, but not as a footnoted reference, since it's essentially a Wiki that anyone can edit.

If you'd like to start a Request for Comment or informal mediation on whether Truth is one of the two or three most significant works of Kyle Baker, then these links will help you do so.

nts: Should I need help

contact: Happy‑melon

Is it inappropriate to mention that Kyle is a mulatto of African American heritage ? Certainly one can see that by any of his youtube videos and web-site. or that both his parents were graphic arts trained ? from an accredited college ? i.e. It's important to know that barry Bonds Dad was a pro in MLB, that's partly why Barry was 1 of the top players ever/HOFer.

Would there be an appropriate way of telling some of Kyle's witty real-life anecdotes ? Maybe via uploading of a Youtube video interview by his sibling ? I can see this is a slippery slope area & I do wish to both add useful info & follow the rules as best as possible. I do know Kyle & his sister are very busy, so I took my time to add some info I knew, sorry for not having 2ndary sources.

What's rather funny is that if I were a lawyer representing Mr. Baker & someone added "I lie all the time" ...on the 6th most visited web-site in the world, I could prob'ly have that removed, rather easily, as an out of context remark. Maybe my studies in (academic) philosophy can be an asset to Wikipedia...maybe not. thanx for ur time = ) Sorry for the entropy.

"When two strong horses run side-by-side their hoof beats scare each other & the chariot is pulled faster and faster" - Protagoras ! Peace is contagious (talk) 22:25, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanx for ur help Doc! I came yest. to add a few things & well...voila = P Jeepers (mutter mutter mutter) I wrote someone w/ original pix of Kyle & hopefully they can provide an appropriate picture = ) I do know that there are limits to freedom of speech, esp'cly in the 'private sector'. i.e. If I tell my boss that I love Pres. Smith & he fires me...cause he voted for Pres. Jones; I have no case. That's sorta a red-herring, but I'm a slow learner @ times. = ( Peace is contagious (talk) 23:24, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Censoring a direct quote

I understand you don't like Baker saying of himself, "I lie all the time." However, it is a direct quote, perfectly in context — read the original interview, which is footnoted and linked, and you'll see that this is true. I'm not sure it's appropriate for an acquaintance of the subject, who may not be the most objective person in regards to that subject, to be removing something based on a personal feeling that the subject might not like it. If you feel the quote is not representative of what he says in the interview, ask other editors to comment. Ask an admin to weigh in with an opinion. Deleting something for personal reasons does not help provide a full understanding of the subject. We don't whitewash. And heaven knows, there is a mountain of accomplishments here of which any subject can be proud. --Tenebrae (talk) 00:39, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

...not sure what such a " has to do w/ anything significant, "I eat all the time" would be just as frivolous. Is Baker known as a 'notorious liar' ? Even potentially libelous as taken out of context. I would even say it's 'vandalism'...if there was 'intent' to be libelous.

Ur ad hominem type reasoning of my motives is also superfluous. Peace is contagious (talk) 00:49, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

What's more astonishing is that M. Tenebrae, who has such technical over-sight of procedures, lacks the philosophical insight to see how 'unencyclopedic' if not down-right irresponsible to put 'I lie all the time' " randomly in the article & not in the paragraph about Cowboy Wally (which I've never even read actually) but can figure out from the article where it belongs in a WIKI page, JEEPERS ! At 1st Tenebrae was insulting my intelligence (q.v.) [via claims of 'tone'(q.v)] & white-washing all my work, which was darn frustrating ...but then he proves himself somewhat hypocritical (q.v.) Peace is contagious (talk) 17:15, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

So THAT is what y'all think, that I AM Kyle Baker ?!? This IS the TRUE problem w/ vicarious Cyber reality (sigh) (Thanx, I did not know only Kyle could sue) Doc is an attorney ? U people are all kinda 'goofy' and or/histrionic, jumping to conclusions. Are u all comics fans ? I never had this much problem on any other article, save where some anal-retentive Mormon pulled all my article photos. Clearly an administrator should look @ the 'I lie all the time'...obviously T-man thinks Kyle is known for his consummate lying. Peace is contagious (talk) 14:47, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Since I'm NOT Kyle baker, there is no way I can sue Wikipedia or Tenebrae or anyone for libel reguarding this issue, according to editor 'Doc'. Thus, to put it in the vernacular "Case Closed." Aside from that, I believe a reasonable compromise was achieved by putting the "I lie..." quote where it belongs, in Baker's career history in the Cowboy Wally paragraph. Peace is contagious (talk) 15:42, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

How can we know that, since Baker has admitted that he lies all the time? Yworo (talk) 15:44, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Are u for real, bro ? You would be laughed out of a court-room. The simple fact that I did not have proper credentials for the pic ...forget it.

SHHHHH, Don't tell any1, but I'm really.....DANNANANANA - BRUCE WAYNE !!! =) If ur nice to me, I'll tell u where the Batcave is & invite u to the New Years party; Wonder Wooman will be there & I can put in 'the good for u' ? or do u prefer males ? -Bruce aka Peace is contagious (talk) 16:02, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

• - Peace you have been asked to remove it, unless you do that and retract it, you will likely be blocked (again) wikipedia takes legal threats very seriously. Off2riorob (talk) 16:13, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

I forget if ur an administrator Off2 ? If u are I'll, I'll remove it. I went to the Arb. complaint page & told them that I'm not Kyle, so therefore there is no 'threat of legal action'. - Bruce Peace is contagious (talk) 16:22, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Well, I'm sure u thus realize that there is SOME REASON 'why' u cannot block me. One does not simply become a judge (in reality, I mean here), simply because they have watched many a trial, there is a procedure and much education required; and often enuf we still get 'screw-ball' judges, even on the Supreme Court. Peace is contagious (talk) 16:53, 16 November 2010 (UTC) Ps. u know I'm not really Bruce Wayne? (...but don't tell Ywo, OK SHHHHH ;))

I'm NOT being disruptive, maybe that's ur opinion, on the contrary Mr Tenebrae seems to be a bit slack w/ his Wiki edits, if not even libelous. I suggest u take a few law school classes urself, sir. - Bruce Wayne Peace is contagious (talk) 16:53, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Ps. I'm glad u 2 did not write our Federal Constitution & Bill of Rights.

Sources

We don't allow direct references to the content of media. That called a primary source and doesn't prove that the appearance in the media is notable. We require third-party reliable sources to establish that the media itself and the appearance within the media has been taken note of by some third-party, making it notable. Yworo (talk) 15:36, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Now I see why Wikipedia is not allowed as (anything more than) a (cursory) reference in academic papers, this site has a middle of the bell-curve veracity litmus test.

Blocked indefinitely (but not permanently) for legal threats

Please review the Wikipedia policy: No Legal Threats

Calling other people's edits libelous and hinting that suits might happen, after already being warned to stop and being asked to retract things, is clearly violating the NLT policy.

An Administrator DID NOT warn me. How should a reasonable person, know which warnings are valid ? Peace is contagious (talk) 17:11, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

You are displaying a serious ignorance about how Wikipedia works. I tried to explain but you ignored me. Warnings do not have to be made by an admin, they may be made by any experienced editor. Admins simply enforce the warnings. Yworo (talk) 17:51, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Apparently I do, OBVIOUSLY I do...& u didn't try to explain anythng Doc did, and u may have l'il knowledge of how 'reality' works & what 'coercion' is. OBVIOUSLY vandalism happens, how do I know that u are not some friend of Tenebrae, who puts innacurate (yet 3rd party verifiable) info into articles (i.e. Kyle Baker's Mom was not always a AV cord. I believe that is her retirement job, or 2nd job; what IS important is that she had a BA from Pratt in Graphic Art) ...so despite ur footnotes, ur creating a distorted 'world of facts'. It's almost sad & utterly hysterical how serious u take this and how inaccurate u truly are, especially when u have an 'expert' telling u. enjoy ur pseudo-world of distortions. Peace is contagious (talk) 00:27, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

You are blocked from editing (other than this talk page) under the NLT policy indefinitely, but not permanently.

If you retract all threats and promise not to make further ones, any administrator can unblock your account. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 20:43, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm afraid there is some confusion here, I explained that I am not Kyle Baker & was informed thus I cannot sue, so what's the problem ? Peace is contagious (talk) 17:11, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

what exactly do I have to do to satisfy the over-seer(s)? Please note that the inflammatory statement "I Lie all the time" was put into proper context & left there! So it seems my 'opinion' was mutually agreed upon. Peace is contagious (talk) 17:28, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

I would also like to point out that someone with legal knowledge (like an attorney or paralegal) should do the 'blocking' in such an instance, as 'blocking' someone for threatening to sue, can be seen as coercion. I do not expect computer programmers to comprehend the technicalities of law. I'd also like to point out that my edits have been 'bullied' by user Tenebrae. He claims that any amount of detail I write is 'promotional' in nature, which is quite frustrating.Peace is contagious (talk) 17:11, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

If I may step in as an uninvolved editor, Peace, you need to understand that until you remove and renounce that legal threat above, no one will be willing to listen to your points. Wikipedia takes legal threats very seriously for a variety of reasons, and simply saying you're not the subject so you wouldn't be able to sue isn't sufficient. Just remove the threat and say you understand the policy, and you have no intention of suing or taking legal action, and an admin will unblock you. Then you can try and make your points about the subject. Dayewalker (talk) 18:24, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

thanx u seem level-headed. U do see my point? ...'banning' those who issue legal threats is a form of coercion & a poor policy; yes maybe 90% of legal threats are superfluous, but clearly insisting that 'I lie all the time' be stuck @ the very end of a 'Later Career' section is irresponsible (if not libelous and any sane individual would realize that, however Tenebrae relied on technical knowledge of the 3rr rule) He HAS NOW LEFT if where it belongs (where I last put it). He SHOULD fear being sued, unfortunately I'm not Kyle & I don't think Kyle would even care.

It's not that I wish to make ANY more points about Kyle Baker ...but rather in any future article I don't want to be oppressed (q.v.) by Mies van Der Rhoe 'less is more' type zealots. ...however these 2 zealots Tenebrae & Yworo seemed to 'get off' on throwing around rules that they do not clearly understand themselves. They DO NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THE PHILOSOPHIES UNDERLYING THESE RULES (all rules are guidelines, not etched in stone).

Heck, even lawyers are 'artists' more than technicians, almost any law can be 'swung to the left or right' so as truth & justice may prevail. I think a better solution would have been to block me from the Kyle Baker page, but obviously if these people were 'smarter' they wouldn't be wasting time on Wikipedia. C'mon look at the picture of the dude who blocked me... I should be charging for psychotherapy @ this point. I'll remove the comment, simply cuz I want to edit other pages, but I'll put it right back if anyone should choose to be irresponsibly libelous, as it should be...if no one chose to stand up & sacrifice against unjust laws, then we'd be in some sort of corrupt or semi-corrupt society where those in power stayed in power pretty much...oh wait, that's what exists here in the USA. = ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peace is contagious (talk • contribs)

Your new round of threats

That's free advice "zealot" and "if these people were smarter"

I do not wish to discuss US LAW w/ u sir, if u fully understood it, u prob'ly would not write things out of context.

No @ this point I defn'ly don't want to meet u, u seem like a bore. But thanx for twisting my words & insinuating some nefarious motive, that's 'cute' & manipulative of u.

Can I block u from my talk-page, cuz I really don't want to hear ur 'opinions'...& we can sit here all-day arguing the details, it's quite unproductive. So I'm asking u kindly to not write on my talk page. Go read ur comic books or chop-up someone else's work, I find u disrespectful to others writing stlye in favor of ur own incomplete, uninformative minimalism. It's usually rich people like u trying to step on the poor, like me...I don't have park front property or an ex-model wife. In fact, my medical insurance is provided by the Gov't. Ywroo's nonsense is even more anal-retentive than urs, & thus I erased it, it's cluttering u my page -less is more' -Mies Van Der Rhoe (ur philosophy,no ?)

Starting over

Please read our policy on not making legal threats.

Wikipedia policy is that you may not make them or hint at making them. Don't do it. You've done it a bunch. You have to stop doing that, agree not to do it in the future, and retract the ones you have made.

If you disagree that Wikipedia's policy should be that, then that's a viewpoint you can argue. HOWEVER - that is what policy is, and what's going to be enforced.

You will remain blocked until you abide with the policy. If you do not want to abide by it, the discussions here are pointless; your best course is to just stop editing.

If this is not clear, please let me know and ask for clarification on what details need to be clearer.

Thank you. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 01:57, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanx: please clarify this part: 'You should instead contact the person or people involved directly, by email or through any other contact methods the user provides.' Are all user required to put an email on their userpage ? How would I 'contact' them w/o 'writing' directly on their Wiki userpage ?

It seems a compromise was reached over the remark "I lie all the time" on K Baker's page...Peace is contagious (talk) 17:43, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Please, I DO NOT wish to 'get advice' from anyone w/o admin authority @ this point, thank you.Peace is contagious (talk) 19:35, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

And by the way Elen IS an admin, and you rubbed out her comments also. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 19:39, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

she should have identified herself as such. Cops wear badges & uniforms for a reason, cyber-reality is confusing enuf.Peace is contagious (talk) 21:18, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

It's in the history for anyone to see: [2] Everyone forgets to sign from time to time. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:29, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Bugs. That cleared up, I'll say it again. A repeat performance of yesterday's posts will mean that you lose access to your talkpage. Incidentally, if you want to email another user, you'll find a link to email the user in the menu on their user and talk page. Elen of the Roads (talk) 20:07, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Please repost what I erased, my bad. Thanx. Peace is contagious (talk) 21:18, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

"Incidentally, if you want to email another user, you'll find a link to email the user in the menu on their user and talk page." ...NOW that I know this, I have NO REASON TO MAKE ANY LEGAL 'THREATS' ON WIKIpedia pages. I can in good-conscience adhere to that policy. Thank you for ur patience w/ my ignorance. Peace is contagious (talk) 21:38, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Note, you may not send legal threats via Wikipedia email either, but it may offer the opportunity to resolve differences privately, which I hope is the case here. Elen of the Roads (talk) 21:45, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

the actual 'issue' was resolved b4 I was even blocked for 'making legal threats' ...by putting the controversial statement 'I lie all the time' into proper context (i.e. in the section about Kyle basing a cartoon char. on himself) Peace is contagious (talk) 22:04, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Well then, if you want to confirm that you now understand that making what appear to be threats to sue, or accusing people of activities that they might be sued for, is not acceptable on Wikipedia (and that includes by Wikipedia email), and you understand that should you do it again, you will be blocked again, then I will unblock you. Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:11, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

I can confirm that: 'I now understand that making what appear to be threats to sue, or accusing people of activities that they might be sued for, is not acceptable on Wikipedia (and that includes by Wikipedia email), and I understand that should I do it again, I will be blocked again'.

...& TRULY hope this will not happen. I disagree w/ the policy, but I DO understand my 'rights'. In earnest hopes of avoiding any such future statements, how do u recommend I handle a similar situation in the future? I had numerous people giving me advice, w/ no hierarchy of authority to observe & thus no clue of which advice was accurate and which not.

Incidentally, may I also point out that the user Tenebrea I 'threatened w/ legal suit' was banned from editing for 1 year another comic book writers page, "John Buscema" ...does that show at least some reasonable doubt that my being upset & that my 'bannable' behaviour MAY have at least been over a valid point/criticism ? I hope I've worded that correctly. Peace is contagious (talk) 22:49, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Banned from editing the article only not the whole wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive65#Violation_of_Arb_ruling_at_John_Buscema - my spidery senses are wondering how come you knew that? Off2riorob (talk) 23:03, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Since this is the second time Peace is contagious has brought it up: I volunteered to be blocked so long as a fanatic editor who was making changes disapproved by RfC was blocked as well. I say "fanatic" since he'd bee blocked for a year himself previously, and changed his handle. It was a more elegant solution than going through more weeks of mediation and arbitration. It left the article in good shape without the fanatic editor's non-consensus additions. And I'd prefer you not wikistalk me.--Tenebrae (talk) 03:05, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Hold up, Elen: "I'll remove the comment, simply cuz I want to edit other pages, but I'll put it right back if anyone should choose to be irresponsibly libelous, as it should be" still needs to be removed in his above comments, right? That would be a "nice" gesture on his part... Doc talk 22:19, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

It would confirm he understands he doesn't have the right to do that. Peace is contagious, I'm not imposing new hoops, but it would be good if you struck that comment (put <s> and </s> on either side of it so it is struck). If you have a dispute with another user, there are a number of dispute resolution options. If a user is incivil, you can report them at a rather odd noticeboard called Wikiquette Alerts. If you feel someone is actually libelling you, you can report it at the Administrators noticeboard for incidents.Elen of the Roads (talk) 01:07, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and one other helpful point. Wikipedia is not a hierarchy. You will find you get as good advice from non-admins as well as admins. More importantly, any editor can place a warning on your page, and if it is made in good faith, you should take notice of it. Elen of the Roads (talk) 01:10, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Here's to a fresh start

In the spirit of the holiday season, and in hopes of collaborating and working together, I wanted to wish you, sincerely, a Happy Thanksgiving. I hope you'll accept my genuine good wishes. With regards, --Tenebrae (talk) 16:30, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

February 2011

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Thanx, I was confused as to how long an intro should be...then I saw Tesla's was MUCH longer than the average intro...

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Please do not add or change content, as you did to David Irving, without verifying it by citing reliable sources. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. your change of the word to denier to skeptic is both pov and was not in the source. Dougweller (talk) 07:56, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwp7tVZuXKM&feature=youtube_gdata_player — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peace is contagious (talk • contribs)

Ah yes, he spoke at the anti-Semitic holocaust denying organisation the Institute for Historical Review. That's not the source used in the article and is anything but a reliable source for Irving. It does help make clear that he changed his mind about speaking at their conferences so we need to add that to the article, but with a better source. Dougweller (talk) 09:51, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

fine, here's some BBC interview, where he admits that 2 million Jews were killed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c82WPNFBNnM ...or u think he's lying to cover his own ass ? Peace is contagious (talk) 13:52, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Between five to 6 million Jews were killed in the Holocaust. He's denying that. I'm glad you got rid of the question as to whether or not I'm Jewish. You can be an atheist like me and hate Holocaust denial. Doug Weller (talk) 18:10, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

I hate deleterious lies, of many shapes & sizes. I also disdain sycophants, opportunists & zealots. Also one may never know fully & completely what happened @ many points in History i.e. The Pilate Stone was discovered in 1961, yet for ~2000 yrs (q.v.), there was no hard evidence that Pontius Pilate even existed, I'm not sure if Josephus had mention of him, and many people would bet their lives that the Jews were slaves of the Egyptians. Peace is contagious (talk) 21:56, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

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@Drmies: again I ask u how to contact your superior(s). Thank you.Peace is contagious (talk) 05:06, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

• Again I tell you that is not how this works. Drmies (talk) 15:36, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

not "cookie-cutter" @Drmargi: I MEAN exactly what I said, i.e. like a food recipe. Plz don't be so obtuse. Peace is contagious (talk) 01:08, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

how ya been bro ? Everything cool w/ u ? '?' for u, on actor Harry ANdersens page, how do I create a link to his CHEERS char ? There's a way to do that, I"ve seen it done, I'm not too auspicious w/ IT, HTML & code... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recurring_characters_in_Cheers#Harry_The_Hat Peace is contagious (talk) 23:21, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

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• Nice to meet u ! Thanx ! : ) I found the info a few years ago, here on WIKI- u must scroll down a bit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primetime_Emmy_Award_for_Outstanding_Lead_Actor_in_a_Comedy_SeriesPeace is contagious (talk) 20:25, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia articles aren't appropriate as references per WP:CIRCULAR, but I would imagine the article itself may have appropriate citations you could copy to the Benson article. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 20:40, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

surely LOL ...a Cartesian Circle or circular-logic :P I'd imagine IMDB may have this info, for those who r a bit anal-retentive ? IDK. This is quite an epistemological quandry, eh ? LOL Surely 'common knowledge' is not required to be referenced ? or is it ? Although 'common' may be subjective... -Dave Peace is contagious (talk) 20:54, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

I found a link, just not sure how to add/cite it ! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078569/awards

IMDb is not a good choice of source as it frequently isn't reliable, per WP:RS/IMDb. If you follow the link to citations that I provided above, it tells you how to create them. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 01:15, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

http://www.emmys.com/awards/nominees-winners/1985

That source doesn't support the claims that you're making besides the fact that the show won awards. Please stop edit-warring and discuss the matter at the article's Talk page, or provide a source that backs up the statements you're inserting. Thank you. DonIago (talk) 20:28, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

U r a racist or a moron or both... :( BOO Peace is contagious (talk) 20:32, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Personal attacks won't help your case. I'll thank you not to continue with the name-calling. DonIago (talk) 20:53, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

So u say, but if my efforts help u to look at yourself in a deeper & more practical light, then I've built a bridge to the future, whilst u r merely tightening your hold on what's 'traditional' & comfortable for u. BOO :( Peace is contagious (talk) 20:58, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

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I'm not even sure what trolling is...if some1 could explain that. I made a valid observation, that RObert GUillaume is the only African-American to win a male Comedy Lead Actor Emmy & a non-admin was erasing/vandalizing (q.v.) my work. I realize the vandalization is probably the moot issue & thus the crux of the matter. If this is over the use of the term "anal-retentive", well that is not a vernacular term, it is a term found in any General Psyche text. Sorry for any confusion. Thnx Peace is contagious (talk) 04:43, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

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I suggest you go back to your General Psyche text and look up "racist" and "moron". Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 05:49, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

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Hi. Regarding your edits in the Profile section of Cobra Commander, I would like to know why you kept changing the two images I've added. I'm hoping to have a discussion to know what you're thinking about, since I believe the images of the Cobra Commander cosplays that show the iconic mask and hood are appropriate.— MC-123 (talk) 03:27, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

hi, amigo ! I agree the hood & mask r iconic, but those specific shots r just aesthetically awful... I see there r dozens of pix available on Wiki Commons, I picked the 1 that seems not only very accurate to the 80s imagery, but also of a tall, 'handsome' model wearing/filling it out. The header photo has a pic of the hooded Cmdr... I would also like to see a pic of the original helmet & hooded 1983 toys added, under the Toy section. Thanx for yer time, hopefully we can agree on an auspicious solution ! - Dave M. Medlar

Ps. I havent see the Snake Eyes film yet, but read the plot here on Wiki- Im more of a Star Wars & Trek fan ...but had a few dozens 80s Peace is contagious (talk) 03:52, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments Dave. I appreciate your thoughts, but I'd like to know why you think those images are "awful". The images of the zoomed-in Cobra Commander and of the Cobra logo are just way too big in size. Additionally, I don't think it's necessary to have the Cobra logo in this article. I'd be happy to talk with you more on this. — MC-123 (talk) 04:18, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

I'm on my tablet, so size may be skewed or distorted for my view ...feel free to adjust the size ? Peace is contagious (talk) 04:25, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

I've reverted PIC's changes, pending further discussion and the involvement of more competent editors. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:06, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

...feel free to ping an admin, or correct any technical errors, until then I'll just keep undoing any vandalism reverts, to save my time & effort. Peace is contagious (talk) 07:12, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

It is your responsibility - not that of anyone else - to edit with competence. This is an encyclopedia, not a playground. Please stop, before you are blocked. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:13, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

R u an admin ? Peace is contagious (talk) 07:17, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

No, but that's not relevant. I'm still able to differentiate between good and bad edits. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:18, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Then u cannot block me. Call/ping an admin or stfu. I'm not yer teacher or therapist. competence & IQ is a moot point here. I'm on a table, so if my spacing is off, kindly correct it, but plz do not revert. Gracias, amigo Peace is contagious (talk) 07:24, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

• tablet Peace is contagious (talk) 07:26, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

No, I can't block you, but I can and will suggest you be blocked if you continue to make poor quality edits, or if you edit war. Thanks. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:31, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

...seems like the problem is solved, u fixed the image sized, so spare me the sanctimonious editorial. Merci Peace is contagious (talk) 07:35, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

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U cannot block me unless u r an admin... Grow up & get a life. U R disrupting wikipedia not me... Peace is contagious (talk) 13:21, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

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If u are an admin u should say that up front. Im on a tablet, not a pc Peace is contagious (talk) 13:33, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

FYI, Peace is contagious: an editor's user rights page shows their permissions on the project, like Special:UserRights/Deb. El_C 13:43, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Hey Deb, why is an image of Davis at a 1963 civil rights march under career ?!? Peace is contagious (talk) 13:46, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Is there an 800 # I can call to talk to your superior ? or is that nonsensical & draconian ? Peace is contagious (talk) 13:49, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

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Which taunts ? Im on a tablet via the app, I physically cannot do the Unblock procedure... merely reply below... Peace is contagious (talk) 13:58, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

You've been blocked many times. Just use the same procedure you used last time. Deb (talk) 14:02, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

"my history". I haven't had a problem on wikipedia since ~2010, 3x then ? ...when I had a desktop pc. Peace is contagious (talk) 14:06, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Oof, a let-me-speak-to-your-supervisor request.¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Peace is contagious, it's stated in the block notice above. Fill in the fields in {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, here on this page. Added: leave me be, Acroterion, I was here 3rd! Added 2: hello, edit conflict city! El_C 14:09, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

It should be MUCH clearer who is an admin & who is not ...to A USER! Maybe use red letters on your user ID or some distinctive symbol... And plz try to grasp the perspective of a user on a tablet, phone or the app.

I reiterate: why is an image of Davis at a 1963 civil rights march under "Career" ?!? User Nampca DC kept reverting my edits over that, which sparkwd this entire bizarre dialectic Peace is contagious (talk) 14:16, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

I tried to ping an admin 2 days ago to settle the initial problem with Mr Nampca DC Peace is contagious (talk) 14:18, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

I've interrupted your dialogue with yourself by blocking you from this talk page. You can request unblock at WP:UTRS. Deb (talk) 14:37, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

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I reverted your edits to Jerry Rosenberg, and you reverted them back with the edit summary "Surreptitious vandalism and/or dilettantism". Rather then engage in a protracted edit war, could you please fix the following:

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Please do not add or change content, as you did at Nathaniel White, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Your edit summary, "This info can easily be Googled, plz feel free to source them yourself", is not appropriate. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:01, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

@Magnolia677 I assumed u would know the technical procedure/code to reference, r u a moderator/administrator ? I assumed it's better to add pertinant, valid info...than none at all, and allow ignorance to smolder or

Virtually anyone can make a blog or self publish an article ...that Wikipedia would consider a valid reference source, so Wikipedia "editors" need to step up their game, work together with those of us less technically savy or even change policy. I'll assume u mean well, but...it's quite discouraging; if u have the procedural know how to add references, plz help those of us who do not, instead of just posting a link to the procedure. Use of Google seems ubiquitous today in 2023, however the procedure for citing sources on Wikipedia is a bit more esoteric. I'll do my best. - Dave Peace is contagious (talk) 19:01, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

@Magnolia677 ...so it seems at minimum I can just add cn to an edit ? Peace is contagious (talk) 19:13, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

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