User talk:PeterSymonds/Archive 16
Cena Jr
edit- Cena Jr (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
I'm almost certain you blocked him because you thought he was a sock of someone else... but you may want to see this. I think AGF may be needed for an unblock. Thoughts? D.M.N. (talk) 17:13, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- Sigh, Done. Just goes to show that WP:DUCK is meaningless at times. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 17:16, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
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edithey Peter, could I talk you into putting Larry Sanger on your watchlist for a little while? — Ched ~ (yes?) 20:12, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- Done This should be interesting. PeterSymonds (talk) 20:19, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- thanks. If it weren't an important BLP with ties to Wikipedia itself, I just wouldn't bother, but geesh - it's one of the ones we should get right! But, other than the calmtalk tag, I'm sitting this round out! I've never met anyone I couldn't talk to on some level before, but when I looked at history and block log, arbcom, and all - I guess I'm not the only one ;) — Ched ~ (yes?) 21:03, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, it's an interestingly controversial page, stemming from the great "founder co-founder" debate. I've never had much time for the debate, personally, but another admin's eye on a controversial BLP would be beneficial in any case. :) PeterSymonds (talk) 21:12, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- I'm impressed, the work on the Sanger article is coming along very nicely. Seems I was worried over nothing. He's actually put some very hard work and good improvements into it. I was wrong, and I'll "Man Up" and admit it! — Ched ~ (yes?) 21:40, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Project Chanology
editIt takes me 2 minutes or more to save a page. 2 minutes to get a diff engine to respond. The bulk of my edits you reverted was cleaning out the empty spacings in template that bloated the large size of the article entirely and you blindly reverted all my edits without looking at them. Are you ready for IPv6? (talk) 22:08, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- No, not so. I very rarely get involved in these things, but I take NOR quite seriously, so when I see it, I revert it. It was hardly a blind revert. I'd ask you again to justify the additions on the talk page, rather than simply reverting. I'm not bothered about the whitespace, just the sourcing you introduce. Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 22:12, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- You looked at the wrong revision I made. I changed back to Cirt's version right after what I was doing. I then made some template cleanups. You never looked, you just used your script to revert. Are you ready for IPv6? (talk) 22:13, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Reinstate
editPlease reinstate my tools and undelete my userpage and any other things I requested to be deleted under RTV. Rgoodermote 23:12, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- Done Welcome back. :) PeterSymonds (talk) 23:23, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you and glad to be back. Could you do one more thing? Please undelete Rgoodermote/u? Rgoodermote 23:24, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- Which I forgot was a redirect. XD; Rgoodermote 23:25, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you and glad to be back. Could you do one more thing? Please undelete Rgoodermote/u? Rgoodermote 23:24, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
(undent) Thank you very much! Rgoodermote 23:37, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- Nope you didn't miss a thing. Thank you very much! Look forward to getting back to editing. Rgoodermote 23:39, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- You're welcome. :) PeterSymonds (talk) 23:39, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for supporting FS
editThanks for supporting FS.Hope it will pass it.User:Yousaf465 (talk)
- Pardon me? PeterSymonds (talk) 08:39, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, I remember now. Featured sound. You're welcome, and good luck with it. PeterSymonds (talk) 08:40, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
IRC
editTo confirm I'm Msgj on IRC ;) Martinmsgj 10:27, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- Access set by MZMcBride (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA). Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 10:38, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Thank you!
editThanks for helping out with the DYK update a few hours ago! You gave me the biggest laugh I've had in a while :) Shubinator (talk) 01:36, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
- Heh, oops indeed! You're welcome, though Kanonkas did most of it. ;) PeterSymonds (talk) 10:59, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Just learning how to edit...
editThis page is not being vandalized man, I just made a few formatting errors, be patient. I got this one covered boss.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronald Jose Carlos (talk • contribs) 03:07, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
- I'm sorry but I don't understand what situation you're talking about. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 00:44, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
You deleted my picture.
editWhy did you do this? (Isagrand (talk) 15:37, 3 March 2009 (UTC))
- Book covers are usually the intellectual property of the artist or the publisher. Therefore it is a copyright violation, as it was released under a {{GFDL}} license with no evidence that you own the copyright. If it meets the non-free content criteria, you can upload under fair-use with {{Non-free book cover}}, but you will have to justify the image's place in the article. If you are the cover designer or the publisher, you will need to verify this through OTRS. This is an email system to privately send proof that you are the copyright owner, and after an OTRS volunteer has verified this, the image will be tagged as such. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 16:57, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
re: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Markbeirut/Archive
editFrom Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Markbeirut/Archive, what about the fact that these contributions altered edits of other users in the AfD? Is there something else I should have done? The actions of the editor clearly seem to be against policies in some way. *breath* I know it's not a big deal, but I would like to know what the best course of action, given the circumstances, would be. Belasted (talk) 00:25, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- In this particular case, a sockpuppet investigation wasn't needed. The IP and the account were clearly the same person. However, I see no evidence that that they logged in with the intent to be deceptive. Changing comments is not appropriate, but a revert and a note to the user should solve this. S/he appears to be a genuine good-faith editor, so it should work. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 00:42, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- Well, I guess I should be a little bit less anxious to make editors into villains. Thank you. Belasted (talk) 01:12, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Watchlist (again)
editwould you want to watchlist this user in case he goes after a less tolerant user? — Ched ~ (yes?) 05:11, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- Done Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 14:20, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks
editHi Peter, belated post holiday thanks for your support in my RFA, which passed by an embarrassingly wide margin. There's also a full glitzy Oscar style version of my acceptance speech here. PS I see your in the UK, perhaps we'll meet at a pub meet sometime? WereSpielChequers 22:13, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- By some small coincidence I'm in London on Sunday, so I'll see what I can do. I have a lot to do up there, however, so I can't promise anything. If I do attend, it'll be for the lunch only, because I probably won't be able to stay very long. But nonetheless, I'll see what I can do. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 16:31, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Great, I'm in Northants most of the weekend but if everything goes to plan I should be back in London in time for lunch. WereSpielChequers 16:46, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Unfortunately I won't be able to make it; I've come over with fever, so I've had to cancel my trip completely. Maybe next time. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 09:29, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- Great, I'm in Northants most of the weekend but if everything goes to plan I should be back in London in time for lunch. WereSpielChequers 16:46, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
How dare you sir!
edit- Ju'st t'o b'e diff'ic'ult, O m'ight r'espond. PeterSymonds (talk) 01:18, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Hello. I have added a list of IPs to the case who I think are this user (I did this on the investigation's page, even though it was archived, sorry! Didn't see the 'archive' bit until after my edit). They are still editing pages in the same manner, simply waiting for any semi-protection to expire (example here). Geoff B (talk) 15:29, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
- Here's the ANI I just filed after spending some time chasing this around blocking and protecting today. Mfield (talk) 01:53, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
Need help
editNeed help at TDA article. Please, refer to section at User talk:Bbhinton15 (talk discussion area) for more info. Thank you.--Halls452 (talk) 03:36, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- Replied there. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 09:28, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, I was just wondering if you could check (and help out) the Total Drama Action page again. The vandalism went wild yesterday (and seems to starting to go wild again today. Thanks.--Halls452 (talk) 14:39, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- Semi-protected for a period of 1 month, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 17:05, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, I was just wondering if you could check (and help out) the Total Drama Action page again. The vandalism went wild yesterday (and seems to starting to go wild again today. Thanks.--Halls452 (talk) 14:39, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
AFD applies to userspace?
editI was told that AFD applies to userspace, in which case, User: Charm School 3, is a recreation of deleted material (a copy of) the article Charm School Gives Back and Charm School: Gives Back. I tried tagging it as a userpage, but the user deletes the tag. Thanks! Plastikspork (talk) 18:09, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- Certainly does. Deleted. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 18:22, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
DYK update
editWould you be willing to do a DYK update? None of the regular admins are around. I'll do credits and archiving, and I can give instructions if you need. Shubinator (talk) 00:06, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Done Let me know when you've cleared the credits and I'll refresh the queue. :) Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 00:26, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you! I've finished credits. Can you upload and protect the picture too? I would do it myself, but I keep getting an error message saying that the same pic is on Commons, and I can't get around it - maybe only admins can? Shubinator (talk) 00:32, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- (Well, just upload I guess, since cascading protection will take care of the protection part) Shubinator (talk) 00:33, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- The picture was kindly protected at Commons by Rjd0060 (talk · contribs). I hate uploading the image while it's live - just in case it goes wrong! :) Thanks for your help with the credits and the archiving. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 00:36, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Nice. Hopefully you'll be able to do the same in a few days. Again, thanks! Feel free to grab a drink at WT:DYK! :) Shubinator (talk) 00:41, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- The picture was kindly protected at Commons by Rjd0060 (talk · contribs). I hate uploading the image while it's live - just in case it goes wrong! :) Thanks for your help with the credits and the archiving. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 00:36, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- (Well, just upload I guess, since cascading protection will take care of the protection part) Shubinator (talk) 00:33, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you! I've finished credits. Can you upload and protect the picture too? I would do it myself, but I keep getting an error message saying that the same pic is on Commons, and I can't get around it - maybe only admins can? Shubinator (talk) 00:32, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
DYK's due for another update, from T:DYK/Q2. I asked Victuallers before the edit outage, but I don't know if he's still here. By the way, do you know what happened? It was pretty funny seeing you on "Recent Changes". Shubinator (talk) 20:32, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, you might want to upload the pic first. Shubinator (talk) 20:35, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you! I've finished with credits and archiving, so the queue can be cleared. It would be great if you could look at next update and next next update and promote them to queues 1 and 2 if they're good. Shubinator (talk) 20:59, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Done Did I do that right? Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 21:21, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Looks good. Thanks! By the way, you should consider adding yourself to the DYK admins list. Shubinator (talk) 21:34, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Done Did I do that right? Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 21:21, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you! I've finished with credits and archiving, so the queue can be cleared. It would be great if you could look at next update and next next update and promote them to queues 1 and 2 if they're good. Shubinator (talk) 20:59, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
174.34.161.xx is a proxy
editThe IP's are proxies [5] please block the range in def since it's being used by a vandal how is harassing User:WWGB. Bidgee (talk) 08:38, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- And: thank you Peter. SpitfireTally-ho! 08:40, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Special:contributions/88.191.222.18 but oh noes! SpitfireTally-ho! 08:43, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, I see this is going to be fun. @Bidgee, thanks, I've verified that via nmap and blocked the range for a year. @Spitfire, looks like this particular user is feeding off IP ranges searched for on Google. If we get a second IP, I'll look into checking another range. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 08:51, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for that Peter. Bidgee (talk) 09:17, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, I see this is going to be fun. @Bidgee, thanks, I've verified that via nmap and blocked the range for a year. @Spitfire, looks like this particular user is feeding off IP ranges searched for on Google. If we get a second IP, I'll look into checking another range. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 08:51, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Special:contributions/88.191.222.18 but oh noes! SpitfireTally-ho! 08:43, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Ah well, looks like the userpage has been protected now and there hasn't been any edits from that person since, cheers SpitfireTally-ho! 09:03, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- I requested protection since it was getting ridiculous to keep reverting and reporting only for them to go to a different IP. Bidgee (talk) 09:17, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Sockpuppetry
editDear Peter,
I just realized I have been acused of sockpuppetry, for creating users Askatu, Elorza and UrkoB. This fact has been used against me in a deletion discussion that has slowly turned into (in my opinion) a personal attack and persecution for supporting Arnaiz-Villena's theories (actually, I'm not supporting his theories, but proved facts that have nothing to do with him).
- I SWEAR TO GOD I haven't created those users.
- I do not have the slightest idea of who might have created them, or for what purpose.
- I would love to know how in the world it has been decided that they are my sockpuppets.
I am fairly new to Wikipedia, and I'm not familiarized with some techniques used. I would greatly appreciate if you could:
- Delete the three mentioned users
- Explain how sockpuppetry is detected. I'm quite curious about that point. If it is about IPs, let me just point out that I work in a huge institution, so it could have been any one (even though, I have the feeling it wasn't done from here).
Thank you, Peter. Regards. --Iberomesornix (talk) 16:39, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- In order for me to help you, could you point me in the direction of the page that labels you a sockpuppet, please? Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 16:42, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- It started as a rumor and it went up to the Arbitration Commitee (2.1.1.5) --Ibx (talk) 19:14, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Sockpuppetry
editThanks for unblocking my talk page. I too have been accused of Sockpuppetry, and I can’t retire unless my name is cleared from something I did not do. I have one question: is there a way to check the IP an account logs in from? - Rockyobody (talk) 18:08, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, there is. A small group of trusted users called checkusers have the ability to check the underlying IP address(es) that an account uses. However, please be aware that, according to the checkuser policy, it cannot be used to prove one's own innocence. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 18:31, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
M10 Tank Destroyer
editHello, I am just curious why you renamed the M10 Tank Destroyer article to M10 Wolverine? The page was renamed M10 tank destroyer Aug 22 08 after what I consider a good discussion. There was no opposition; there was no strong citation for the wolverine name. I can't see where any discussion of putting the old, inaccurate name back might have taken place. I can't think of any reason why the article shouldn't be called "M10 Tank Destroyer" but I welcome your thoughts. Regards, DMorpheus (talk) 19:17, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- I requested hte move at WP:RM. WIll discuss on talk page.--Pattont/c 19:28, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Odd that the change would happen against the consensus of the talk page. DMorpheus (talk) 19:41, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- I request that this page be re-renamed back to "M10 Tank Destroyer" which is better supported and has broader consensus. The recent re-name was done impropoerly IMO. Regards, DMorpheus (talk) 01:25, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Deletion request
editI see you deleted all my requests at JC's page. Since he's on vaca, mind doing a couple more? There's all FPs that I'm transferring to Commons, and will replace the WP templates once deleted (see here for more more info, if you're not sure). Thanks. ~ ωαdεstεr16♣TC♣ 21:23, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Done Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 22:38, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you much, sir. ~ ωαdεstεr16♣TC♣ 00:15, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
- Done Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 22:38, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Request
editCould you protect my talk page? I am retiring, and I would not want anyone to vandil my page. And could I also request protection for User:96.245.84.175, User:71.185.180.70, and User:71.175.27.49, until it is cleared that I am not a sock puppet? - Rockyobody (talk) 20:42, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Done by Mfield. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 22:36, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Charm School 3
editI don't understand, Why are you deleting my page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charm School 3 (talk • contribs) 21:41, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- That particular page was deleted via AfD, and therefore that page meets the criterion for speedy deletion which deals with recreation of deleted content. Therefore I deleted it. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 22:37, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Another one just popped up: Charm School (Season 3). I tried to prod it with speedy but prod was removed. Thanks! Plastikspork (talk) 00:32, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
16 article hook DYK
editShubinator (talk) 17:06, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
The Surreal Barnstar | ||
For having sixteen articles in one DYK hook, I award you this Barnstar. Believe me, I know how hard it is to put a 16 article hook together. Great work on Fielding. --Doug Coldwell talk 12:47, 10 March 2009 (UTC) |
- Well, thank you, but I'm being credited with more than I deserve. My contributions to those were mainly research into sources and some linking. As such, it was behind the scenes, and thus I cannot take credit for any of the writing that went into those. Thanks anyway. :) PeterSymonds (talk) 14:15, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
DYK Olorgesailie
editThanks so much PeterSymonds for the good news! Julia Rossi (talk) 07:03, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
- Most welcome. :) PeterSymonds (talk) 22:04, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
- sorry, posted to wrong poster. *blushes* Julia Rossi (talk) 11:10, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
- Aha, no problem. I've done a few updates recently so it seemed accurate. :) PeterSymonds (talk) 15:09, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
- In that case, it's yours! :) Julia Rossi (talk) 02:31, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- Aha, no problem. I've done a few updates recently so it seemed accurate. :) PeterSymonds (talk) 15:09, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
- sorry, posted to wrong poster. *blushes* Julia Rossi (talk) 11:10, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Could I get your opinion?
editHello. We've never spoken before, but I've seen you in IRC and I noticed you listed your name on WP:Editor assistance. I was wondering if you could take a look at Talk:United Football League (2009)#STOP. Was I correct in saying that the link shouldn't be added? I've noticed that User:Standleylake40 has engaged in an edit war over this link with a couple of anons, as well as reverting me and more recently another user. I'm not sure where to go with this as I've never really come into contact with a similar situation (thus seeking "editor assistance").
I'm not too invested in the article (emotionally or contribution-wise), I stumbled across it one day and have just been watching it progress, mostly because I live near Sacramento and there's a team going to play there in this league. Any help you could provide would be very much appreciated. Thank you. Killiondude (talk) 04:50, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- Commented there. I agree with your statement and support the removal. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 09:46, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for your time. I appreciate it. Killiondude (talk) 21:58, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
A wider rangeblock for EmilEikS?
editHello Peter. Now that I've seen Wikipedia:An#Requesting wider block for block evading sock puppet and Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/EmilEikS/Archive it seems that there is more abuse than I though. The recent IP socks at Talk:Mae West/Archive2 came from a range just above the one you blocked. (For example, from 217.209.96.211). What would you think about undoing the block of 217.209.96.0/25 and replacing it with a block of 217.209.96.0/24? EdJohnston (talk) 15:20, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. Let's try it. :) PeterSymonds (talk) 16:09, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, the block on the /24 was done by myself last night; I forgot to unblock the /25. Avraham looked at the two ranges, and was still investigating the possibility of a block on the /16 range, but the /24 was safe at the time. PeterSymonds (talk) 16:13, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Captain Kirk
editThere is an edit war going on in the Captain Kirk page. I have made one change and EEMIV has re-edited it several times. Looking at the page, it appears that EEMIV, Arcayne, and Erikeltic have been arguing over the page all day. Erikeltic is now banned from making changes for 24 hours, but EEMIV and Arcayne are not. Please block them for 24 hours as well because they have actually edited the page more than Erikeltic did. FWIW, I agree with Erikeltic's edit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.152.150.16 (talk) 17:26, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Lulzchan
editWhy did you remove the page, There was nothing wrong with it at all, Its my website stop removing it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anon9781 (talk • contribs) 19:17, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- See WP:WEB and WP:CSD#A7. The fact that it's been deleted four times should give an indication that it's not appropriate for Wikipedia at this time. Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 19:18, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Marcus Evans
editHello, Ivan Kinsman here. I see you have protected the main article page which is fine by me as another editor was including information that was not independently verifiable and neutral in tone. However, I moved this information to the DISCUSSION PAGE. Now correct me if I am wrong, but, as I understand it, this information can be included here and it is not Wiki policy to delete comments just because another editor does not like them. The discussion page is used to generate comments pertaining to the main article and this is exactly what this information is doing. Because it is on the discussion page, it does not need to be independently verified or neutral in tone. I have seen numerous articles where similar information has been included and IT HAS NOT BEEN DELETED. Appreciate your getting back to me on this... Ivankinsman (talk) 21:06, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Archiving talk page
editHi, I was wondering if you could tell me how to archive my talkpage. It's grown quite a bit and I would like to know how to archive sections that haven't been active for more than a month. Thanks. Belasted (talk) 22:06, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- Well, I always archive manually, which involves copying the content I want archiving into a subpage (for example, User talk:PeterSymonds/Archive 12). For an automatic way, there's User:MiszaBot III, which automatically archives your page according to the parameters you set. I never really got this method personally, but the option's there. :) Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 08:33, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Barnstar
editThe Account Creation Barnstar | ||
I user:Staffwaterboy Herby user:PeterSymondsawards being awsone and creating user accounts for other Wikipedia members Staffwaterboy Critique Me Guestbook Hate Comments 00:06, 13 March 2009 (UTC) |
Enjoy Staffwaterboy Critique Me Guestbook Hate Comments 00:06, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you. :) Though I haven't done much to deserve this. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 00:13, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Itoro Umoh-Coleman
editThanks so much! This is great news! SMSpivey (talk) 03:58, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
- Very welcome. :) Congrats on a fine article. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 08:34, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Don't worry about it
editI've decided to let you off this time, but if I catch you at it again.... in all seriousness, sorry my mistake, should have seen the blood drain from my face as I rushed to revert my own edit! Apologies SpitfireTally-ho! 08:42, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
- Ha, well I'll do better next time. No worries. :) I've yet to hit the rollback button on my watchlist, but one day I'm going to revert something silly like a DYK update or something. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 08:48, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Barnstar
editThe Admin's Barnstar | ||
You deserve this for always being so quick to attend to matters requiring attention, always being on hand on IRC :-) Jenuk1985 | Talk 22:54, 13 March 2009 (UTC) |
- Welcome. :) I find it always helps to have a few admins there for emergencies. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 23:31, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Your Protecting of Remo Mancini Article
editHello. I notice that you have protected the Remo Mancini article citing: '(Protected Remo Mancini: Excessive violations of the biographies of living persons policy: Per OTRS ticket #2009031310056877 and request by NonvocalScream ([edit=autoconfirmed] (expires 23:27, 20 March 2009 (UTC)) [move=autoconfirmed] (expir)'.
Please be advised that edits cited multiple, reliable and published articles in the Windsor Star (owned by media giant CanWest Global) which cited multiple sources. In the absence of ALL of the facts surrounding Remo Mancini and his background, this page would otherwise serve as little more than a platform of self-promotion with little or no public interest. Under the Wikipedia rules, you have 2 choices: 1) restore the article to include ALL known facts regarding the subject; or 2) remove the existing article as it is self-promotional, does not contain ALL known facts regarding the subject, and therefore is biased. Thank-you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.239.14.111 (talk) 15:03, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
off2riorob.
edithello. this article I consider to already have a pov position...what is the best way to rebalance an article that has been written with a pov and is already short of verification .. (Off2riorob (talk) 19:12, 14 March 2009 (UTC))
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Captainclegg
editYou recently unblocked User:Captainclegg after he was indef blocked as a result of an SPI case. I think some of his edits since being unblocked are inappropriate given the SPI case. In addition, there are also about 6 IP editors who aggressively support his position and have no other edits except on associated talk pages (see Talk:Hey Jude). I can't say whether or not the IPs are sock puppets, but it's very suspicious. I want to request that an admin look into both issues (post-block edits, IP editors), but I don't know the proper procedure. Does one request that someone re-open an SPI case? Can you tell me what I should do? If you have any other opinions about this matter, I am all ears... — John Cardinal (talk) 22:54, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
- Which edits in particular? I saw a few diffs to Talk:Hey Jude, but it appears to be six to one and half a dozen to the other. I will make one thing clear: He was unblocked per AGF to carry out a second chance. At the moment, this is an argument between Ward3001 and Captainclegg, but Clegg is under no restrictions, so he can edit the talk page if he wishes. If he causes disruption there, I'll step in. However, I don't think he is socking again, but I will re-open it if there is sufficient evidence that he is doing this. I'll also speak to Lucasbfr about the underlying IP; that might help clear this up. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 08:49, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Bubble tea
edit-download | sign! has given you a bubble tea! Bubble teas promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a bubble tea, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy drinking!
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- Thank you. :) PeterSymonds (talk) 08:49, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Ruby's??!
editHey! Why did you delete the Ruby's Restaurants page?? It was up in December, but now it's gone and it says you deleted it? I wanted to look something up about it, but now it's gone! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.105.19.209 (talk) 04:17, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
- Actually it was deleted as an expired proposed deletion by Jclemens (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) (see here). I merely deleted the broken redirect from Ruby's to Ruby's Diner. If you want the content, please log in and specify an email address so I can send it to you. Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 08:40, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Nomination
editPeter, Thanks for the nomination. I've supported as co-nominator. I don't know my way around too much in the English Wikipedia, so I hope I did it right. If you like croc pictures, I have a few good ones in Commons, you can chaeck them out at http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/Gallery.php?wikifam=commons.wikimedia.org&img_user_text=Tomascastelazo. Regards, Tomas —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomascastelazo (talk • contribs) 06:38, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination posted; good luck. :) You nominated correctly. I'll have a look at some more of your photographs, as they are quite stunning. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 08:37, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
68.3.119.178 / LisaKachold Sockpuppetry Investigation Once Again
editIt appears that Wikipedia has blocked access from the IP address that 3 people beginning and editing the Lisa_Kachold page originate from as WP:SOCK citing investigation. This was the same thing that happened during the Obnosis nomination for deletion, so I wonder if perhaps this might be someone hitting Wikipedia with spoofed traffic? All Wikipedia edits are situations where multiple people can access from the same systems (gateway), from the 60MHZ 802.11/g beacon, and use X11 via sit/VPN tunnels, to show an origination from the same IP gateway.
During the IP blocking, LisaKachold quickly fat fingered the login to Lisakachold and when prompted to enter a new username/login as if user was again deleted, she did so.
Can users submitting content to Wikipedia only be non-technically astute? If they are technical women, accessing/editing/submitting content via more than one human editor from the same IP, this must be sockpuppetry, (xterminal, Wifi home businesses, and complex technical systems group access are not considered possible for most accesses, especially those promoting women's issues)?
This IP ban was done while the original group was trying to fix the Lisa Kachold page, nominated for Deletion, as suggested by LinuxChix editors, within the time frame (premature since good faith editors generally suggest a reliable sources tag before nomination) of 5 days?
Please DELETE this Lisakachold User!
editLisaKachold is the correct editor!
- Which IP was this? I unblocked all the accounts and IPs listed at the SPI case. I'm afraid accounts can't be deleted, but if you made a mistake with the name, simply abandon the account and start a new one, or request a rename from the bureaucrats. As to your first question, I'm afraid I'm not very technical, and I don't know what that means. You might want to ask at the computing reference desk instead. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 09:41, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
RfA logs
editHello peter. As you now seem to close regularly RfAs, just a note that they are tracked both alphabetically and chronologically. Cheers.--Tikiwont (talk) 10:19, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- Well, I close them when they're appropriate to close, usually as I see them. Thanks for the link; I'll bear that in mind. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 10:40, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- You might want to bookmark User:Enigmaman/SNOW for a handy how-to :-) SoWhy 10:49, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- Ooh, how excellent. I also noticed a handy guide at User:EVula/admin which included steps I'd never heard of before. :) PeterSymonds (talk) 10:53, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- With that comprehensive info I might try it myself sometimes...--Tikiwont (talk) 13:13, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- Heh. :) PeterSymonds (talk) 13:44, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- With that comprehensive info I might try it myself sometimes...--Tikiwont (talk) 13:13, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- Ooh, how excellent. I also noticed a handy guide at User:EVula/admin which included steps I'd never heard of before. :) PeterSymonds (talk) 10:53, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- You might want to bookmark User:Enigmaman/SNOW for a handy how-to :-) SoWhy 10:49, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Happy Saint Patrick’s Day!
editOn behalf of the Wikipedia:Kindness Campaign, we just want to spread Wikipedia:WikiLove by wishing you a Happy Saint Patrick’s Day! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 16:01, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you. Hope you had a good'en. :) PeterSymonds (talk) 14:55, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Smile!
editXclamation point has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! Just a small token of my appreciation for your work here.
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
Golan-Globus/Cannon Group
editGo to Golan-Globus. See in the article that it then says it is called The Cannon Group, Inc. Is this okay? I don't know what to do. Thanks. Belasted (talk) 01:36, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- I find it truly odd that it's referred to by a different name throughout. Was that what you were referring to? Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 20:55, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yes. But is that okay? I've been here a while, but I've never seen that. I don't know what to do. HELP! Belasted (talk) 06:50, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
- Well, I've not seen it either, so I don't know what to do about it. I suppose you could file a requested move or ask on the talk page, but I'm afraid I have no idea. I assume it's accurate, given the edits, and not page-move vandalism as I first thought. Why it is not titled Cannon Group is beyond me, I'm afraid. Sorry. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 08:28, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yes. But is that okay? I've been here a while, but I've never seen that. I don't know what to do. HELP! Belasted (talk) 06:50, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Huggle
editThank you for granting me permissions but I also have a question. Why is Huggle saying that it is not enabled for my account and than it says "check configuration page" what should I do. Thank you Ryryrules100 T C 20:50, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- I actually have no idea, as I hardly ever use Huggle. Try the help desk. Sorry I couldn't be of much help. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 20:55, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Did you put enable:true in your huggle.css page? Versus22 talk 21:30, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
I would request a checkuser, but it doesn't really meet any of the criteria. I could use code "C", but the sockpuppetry didn't affect the outcome. Should I use code "F", or do you think that it would be better not to request checkuser? GT5162 (我的对话页) 20:55, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- I'd give it a while, personally. Rlevse is a bureaucrat but also a checkuser, so would have seen the sockpuppet comments and probably would have acted accordingly. Not entirely sure though. Further, yes, code F is fine for sock drawers. :) Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 20:58, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- I have chosen to use code "C" because the sockpuppets may have affected a vote that happened last year. However, the SPCUClerkbot tells me that the code letter is missing. Please could you have a look at the page to see what needs to be changed as I thought that the code letter was "C". GT5162 (我的对话页) 21:12, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- Just seen that AfD — Wow. I'll look into relisting that too. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 21:13, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- Also, Rlevse didn't close the RfA; Tikiwont did. GT5162 (我的对话页) 21:20, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- Rlevse removed it from the list though. ;) SPI case looks okay. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 21:24, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- Also, Rlevse didn't close the RfA; Tikiwont did. GT5162 (我的对话页) 21:20, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- Just seen that AfD — Wow. I'll look into relisting that too. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 21:13, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- I have chosen to use code "C" because the sockpuppets may have affected a vote that happened last year. However, the SPCUClerkbot tells me that the code letter is missing. Please could you have a look at the page to see what needs to be changed as I thought that the code letter was "C". GT5162 (我的对话页) 21:12, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
My edits
editPerhaps what really killed me was what I commented to this user, which I admit now I shouldn't have. It looked to me that I thought the user was acting in good faith when he/she chose (what is now) a very inappropriate name. I was thinking that what I saw, they didn't know it was an inappropriate name. But I think I was fooled at the end. Ouch! :( Versus22 talk 21:18, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- Heh. :) No worries. PeterSymonds (talk) 22:48, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
I think you were right the first time, despite the technical evidence saying otherwise. See: Wikipedia:AN/I#User:Cena Jr's continued trolling. — Moe ε 14:31, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for that; noted. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 20:08, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Barnstar
editThe Radioactive Barnstar | ||
For being one of the greatest, most respectable admins around at-210 discovered elements ∞ what am I? 19:37, 21 March 2009 (UTC) |
- Well, thank you! I don't know what I've done to deserve this really, but thank anyway. :) Drop me a note if you need assistance in the future. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 19:55, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Commons request
editHey I just left you a request for assistance on your commons talk page[6] as my ongoing front page image watch/clean up has been thwarted once again by my lack of admin status over there. Mfield (talk) 19:52, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- Replied there. Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 20:02, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
I have had it
editThis is really annoying me. The Total Drama Action article is continually vandalized by ESTABLISHED users. I have reached the ultimatum, and have left a warning to editors on that page, that if they vandalize and insert false information, I will make sure they are blocked for Wikipedia. However, one user did not heed my warnings. This is User:Sshafiee1659. He has been a vandal for quite some time, has received multiple warnings from a bunch of users, and even vandalized User:Bbhinton15's page. Check out the history to see what he did. He should be banned for years, in my honest opinion. Thank you for listening to my rant, and also thank you again for making me a rollback. It is so useful!!!- TDI19 (talk) 23:44, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
DYK update needed
editDYK is due for an update from queue 3. I can do credits and archiving. Shubinator (talk) 20:03, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you! I've finished credits and archiving, so queue 3 can be cleared. Also, do you think you could go through the pictures in the queue and protect them at Commons? Shubinator (talk) 20:14, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
- You're welcome. :) Yes, I'll do both of those now. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 20:16, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Prod
editDon't forget this. If you do, I will be forced to prod this page. :P Ottava Rima (talk) 15:11, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- Haven't forgotten. ;) PeterSymonds (talk) 19:40, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
- I'm wasting one of my few remaining edits left to tell you that you wont need to copyedit it right now. I went through the whole thing with a close eye. However, I will force you to do so once I expand it after GA in order to finish it for FAC. :) Ottava Rima (talk) 01:43, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
RE; koman90's rfa
editThank You For Your Message
I am sorry, but I have closed your Request for adminship prematurely. Simply put, you only have 1200 edits on Wikipedia; while your edit count isn't the only determining factor, and numerous people have their own personal standards by which they judge RfA candidates, this particular RfA was all but assured of not passing.
I am sorry about this, and I hope you don't take it personally. If you continue to contribute to the project in a positive fashion, I am confident that you would be able to submit a successful RfA in the future. You may wish to consider applying for an evaluation by other Wikipedia editors for feedback on how to obtain the necessary experience. Once you are ready to request adminship again, there is a great admin coaching program available, as well as a guide to requests for adminship.
If you have any other questions about becoming an administrator, please don't hesitate to ask me. Good luck! PeterSymonds (talk) 03:31, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
As A Network Administration Student, I Know that administration is a high stress job, i also know that security is a top priority among corporate networks, such as the wimkimedia foundation. Deeply and genuinely respect that. I appreciated polite tone in the message above and look forward to possibly re-applying for an RfA when I am Journeyman Editor. I would also appreciate if you have any IT related questions please do not hesitate to cont me on my talk page or contact wiki project computing. We are here not only to help wikipedians but admins as well. Thank You So Much For Your Time And Patience Re guarding My RFA--Koman90 (talk) 17:21, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
- You're welcome. :) Good luck, and thanks for your kind offer. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 19:32, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Page Protection
editAlthough my page has not been edited by somebody else, may my page be protected so that it may only be edited by myself? Just my user page, not talk page. This is just to protect it from future times. If you cannot, i will understand :) Goku1st (talk) 19:30, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
- Well, it's not technically possible for your userpage to be edited by you alone. I have however semi-protected it, which means only established editors can edit it. I'd fully protect it but then you wouldn't be able to edit it either! Sorry. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 19:39, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Commons replace request
editHi Peter. Can you take care of replacing the protected on commons TFA image File:Nathu_La-Stairs.JPG with the edit I just made File:Nathu_La-Stairs.JPG_edit1.jpg on commons to save me crossloading again. Mfield (Oi!) 19:43, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
- Done Thanks again. :) PeterSymonds (talk) 19:50, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Sockpuppet autoblock... Collateral damage or not???
editUser talk:CanineHybrid is requesting an unblock; he's been caught by an autoblock for a block you made. As this was part of a sockpuppet investigation, I thought it prudent to contact you to see if this user is the intended target, or an innocent bystander. Could you please handle this, or at the least, tell me whether or not I should unblock them or grant IPBE? Thx. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 00:49, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- Done Looks like an innocent bystander. The checkuser did not pick this up, so the user is most probably unrelated to the intended target. I'll drop a note on his/her talk page. Thanks for letting me know. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 00:59, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- Well, I misread the dates, and noticed the last edits were in March 2008 not 2009, so the checkuser on that account would've been stale. But nonetheless, it looks okay. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 01:04, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- All good. Thanks for handling that... --Jayron32.talk.contribs 03:55, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- Well, I misread the dates, and noticed the last edits were in March 2008 not 2009, so the checkuser on that account would've been stale. But nonetheless, it looks okay. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 01:04, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Good
editGlad to see your friend got to come back last night. ;) — Ched ~ (yes?)/© 10:21, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Greetings, PeterSymonds: I noticed that the wikilinks for each year in this template must go through a redirect, i.e., United States Census, 1900 goes to 1900 United States Census. Is there a reason for this or is it an oversight? Mgreason (talk) 14:49, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Of course this is not over. What's the next step? Block the sock on sight, add it to the already-closed SSP page...or what? Frank | talk 17:09, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- Block the obvious socks on sight. I'll raise Syjytg's block to indefinite, and have a word with the CU about the IP. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 17:18, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
DYK help
editHello! I am not sure how to list it, but what about with this? As you can see I expanded the article considerably? Could we ask, "Did you know that Will Kane's was Gary Cooper's second Academy Award winning role?" or "Did you know that Will Kane is ranked fourteenth on Entertainment Weeklys list of Top 20 Heroes of all time?" Thanks! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 04:36, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
- Did you mean "that Will Kane was Gary Cooper's second..."? It's a nice expansion, just over the 5-fold requirement. I'd recommend adding wikilinks to some of the significant parts of the hook, and bold the article itself (so for example, Did you know ... that Will Kane was Gary Cooper's..." Hope that helps. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 09:41, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, I made some internal links. If you think it works, would you be so kind as to help nominate it as I am not really good at that kind of stuff? Thanks! Best, --A NobodyMy talk 15:20, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
- Well, I'd prefer not to; the nominator should be someone connected with the article. You do get nominators for DYK but I'd prefer not to get credited purely for editing the page. The instructions are at T:TDYK; it's quite easy. :) Let me know if you run into difficulties. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 16:33, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, I made some internal links. If you think it works, would you be so kind as to help nominate it as I am not really good at that kind of stuff? Thanks! Best, --A NobodyMy talk 15:20, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Moving my edit notice page
editThanks. :) hmwithτ 01:25, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
- You're welcome. :) PeterSymonds (talk) 01:34, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Or something like that
editThe Admin's Barnstar | ||
Good judgment and tact. Synergy 21:03, 29 March 2009 (UTC) |
- Have you been drinking? ;) Thanks. :) PeterSymonds (talk) 16:57, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Rollback Denied
editThats fine, I see where your coming from with that decision. Hopefully soon I can be granted this feature. How many edits do you think I need to have exactly?--KingRatedRIV (talk) 16:49, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- There is no exact number. It varies simply by experience. Generally my criteria is at least 100 edits (you currently have about that, but only a fraction are in the article space). See also Wikipedia:Twinkle and Wikipedia:Undo for tips about reversing vandalism. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 16:56, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks, I only requested it so I could revert edits faster, but its fine if I dont meet the criteria.--KingRatedRIV (talk) 17:11, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
noone watches over me anymore
editI saw a thread on the help desk, so I looked at a user page. per this: Huntster used to monitor my progress, but now he's busy IRL. Royalbroil will answer any questions I have - but alas ... I have nobody who "monitors" my progress anymore. sigh ... ;(. </sarcasm>. By the way - boy is Steve an eager beaver! Wow, he wants to get everything done yesterday ... lol. Hey Peter, how you doin these days? Best — Ched ~ (yes?)/© 21:57, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Not in one day :-) (Maybe two or three). :) Steve Crossin Talk/24 22:01, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- whew .. then I have time to work on the articles. ;-) — Ched ~ (yes?)/© 22:05, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Hey Ched, I'm doing well thank you. How are you doing? I'm focusing some of my attention on BLP for now, but still generally around doing a bit of everything. :) Hope all is well. PeterSymonds (talk) 22:23, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- whew .. then I have time to work on the articles. ;-) — Ched ~ (yes?)/© 22:05, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
link/ get here..posting on my link/me..this: PeterSymonds—Preceding unsigned comment added by Off2riorob (talk • contribs) 00:11, March 31, 2009
- ??? confused here .. not sure what you're saying. (/me foresees another self-d'oh moment coming) — Ched ~ (yes?)/© 08:34, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
- That wasn't me, and I was a little confused by it too. Could you please elaborate? Most kind. Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 10:27, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Cat Black Nova Scotians
editThe category was not deleted previously per WP:OC#SMALL so the speedy should not have been declined because there was stuff in the category. Otto4711 (talk) 22:21, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- I certainly did not feel comfortable about deleting a category that was so heavily populated. If another admin disagrees, that's okay; but the size and topic of examples at WP:OC#SMALL are inherently different from this category. PeterSymonds (talk) 22:28, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yes they are, but again, OC#SMALL was not why the category was deleted the first time. Otto4711 (talk) 18:42, 1 April 2009 (UTC)