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editJust so you know, my last edit rearranged a bunch of things but I didn't cut anything significant, I did some rephrasing and killed a few more parentheticals. The big thing is I moved the Sunday Silence rivalry up into the chronology because otherwise it was really awkward to follow the article and things were repeated that didn't have to be. You've actually got this article pretty close to Good article standards and if you put it up, I'd be glad to support your effort and help address anything the reviewers raise; I've run this particular gauntlet before (I have a lot of GA and FA articles) and can usually sort out what's a legitimate request from what's something to not take too seriously. I'd suggest adding a pedigree chart and a chart of his racing record; see what I did at Mucho Macho Man as an example of each, or at Paynter (horse) if you want to see a simpler article that can pass GA level. You also may want to improve the ref formatting; soe is good, others need cleanup. You're making better edits and kudos for that. Montanabw(talk) 19:38, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
The Wood Memorial is run 4 weeks before the Ky. Derby. And it has been run 4 weeks before the Derby since the 1990's. The fact that it was run only 2 weeks before back then is an important fact. Noting hand rides, under little urging, ridden out,etc are important facts about each individual race, and should be stated with/about that race, not as a whole. Noting the track was playing dull and slow for particular races is noted to explain the slow final times of those races. I feel they are important, but I'd understand if you don't, or if wikipedia doesn't. Peteski132 (talk) 11:30, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
- I was wrong on the Wood - crap, I should know, I watched it this year, same day as Santa Anita Derby. What I was trying to explain to you at the article talk is that without context, all your "facts" are meaningless. My suggestion there is to create a chart with all the statistics, and that way the narratives can discuss things that made each race unique or useful to build the horse's career or whatever. But see Talk:Easy Goer for more. Montanabw(talk) 00:55, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
I already answered in my last post here. I think each individual race had unique characteristics(under little urging, hand ridden, ridden out, hand ride, track was playing slow,etc etc) that would be better told about that race, rather than as a whole. I do not know how to create a chart with all the statistics. IMO, These are articles describing things, not chart stats to me. First, you say certain things should Not be in a summary about career, and others should be. This is contradicting. For each of Cal. Chrome's races there are descriptions of each race ("only mild urging", "minimal urging", etc). "He came in", doesn't sound like "particularly good writing". And I am sure if you look at many thoroughbred horse articles, you would see they need a lot of help. I didn't write them at all. I put context into the important facts I added. Peteski132 (talk) 04:05, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
- To some extent you are right that each race has unique characteristics, however, when you say "won under a hand ride" seven times, it becomes really boring - connect the dots and show the reader why he or she should care - a summary is good, say that the horse won by his wide margins without need for much urging. You can copy the chart from my Mucho Macho Man article and replace the races. It's tedious, but covers a lot of stuff that's dull to put into a narrative. Otherwise, the reader is going to get so board that they want to poke their eyes out with pins if they try to read it all. (Also, when you have to put a side comment in parentheses every three sentences, that's bad form too, too many asides) I agree that many TB articles need help, I'm actually trying to make you a better writer and, frankly, I put up California Chrome for peer review and you are welcome to go over there and comment, just don't be a troll about it. Montanabw(talk) 22:34, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
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- Peteski, I think I can salvage this, and when I do, I also have autopatrolled rights and can just move it into user space. You can revert anything I suggest, of course, but I like the idea of having an article on AEI and want to see if we can make it work. Montanabw(talk) 22:13, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
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editOn your Easy Goer article, it would be cool for you to add a pedigree chart and a statistics chart. Feel free to steal the chart designs from American Pharoah if you'd like. Doing these can be rather painstaking, though Tigerboy1966 can whip up a pedigree quite quickly. The racing stat charts have no real shortcuts than to go race by race... but it's cool to have. Montanabw(talk) 01:38, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for your suggestions on the pedigree and statistics charts. I'd like to get that soon when I have a bit of time, because as you note, they can be rather painstaking and time-consuming. I'd also like to get some photos of Easy Goer into his article, but I have no idea whatsoever about the copyright laws etc, and what are safe, proper photos. I also have never added a photo to any article, as I don't really know how to do it properly. Peteski132 (talk) 04:20, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
- Given that the horse is deceased, we can use any good image with a "fair use" rationale, as was done with the lead image at Secretariat. Best to use only one, though. The uploading process is kind of a pain in the butt, but I've done it on any number of articles. I'd say if you find one good image that would work for the lead, ping me at my talk page with the link and I will upload it for you. As for the charts, yep, it's painstaking work, but it isn't all that difficult. I'd suggest doing a copypaste of the charts from another article into your sandbox and fix them up there, then put them in the article -- that way, you don't mess up the article while you are ripping your hair out learning chart syntax. Also, if you are going nuts ping WP Horse racing , and someone will probably be able to help. Montanabw(talk) 20:33, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
Great, thanks so much. I will head over to your talk page with a photo. Peteski132 (talk) 04:30, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
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I already went to the Talk page with no response. This actually is very "minor" because it already exists in the article under "Jewish" views on Jesus and Christianity. However, facts of the utmost importance (with factual sources cited) belong in the lead. It isn't even the least bit debatable that these basic, fundamental facts of the utmost importance absolutely belong in the lead, and in the article as well. Multiple editors also "went with me" and I see no "discussion" on this on the talk page. Where are all the "major, controversial" objections of this on the Jesus talk page? I see nothing at all. If these important facts (with factual sources cited) have been edited back and forth for 3 to 4 days, why has this not already been discussed by any one on the talk page in the last 3 to 4 days? If multiple people "went with me" and multiple people "went against me," who decides? Most is already in the article down below in the Jewish section. Why are some people having a visceral reaction when these core principles and basic, fundamental facts (with factual sources cited) of the utmost importance are in the lead and article?Peteski132 (talk) 03:47, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
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Important facts should be in both the lead and article. It isn't even the least bit debatable that these basic, fundamental facts of the utmost importance absolutely belong in the lead, and in the article as well. Multiple editors also "went with me." This actually is very "minor" because it already exists in the article under "Jewish" views on Jesus and Christianity. However, facts of the utmost importance (with factual sources cited) belong in the lead. Multiple editors also "went with me" and I see no "discussion" on this on the talk page. Where are all the "major, controversial" objections of this on the Jesus talk page? I see nothing at all. If these important facts (with factual sources cited) have been edited back and forth for 3 to 4 days, why has this not already been discussed by any one on the talk page in the last 3 to 4 days? If multiple people "went with me" and multiple people "went against me," who decides? Most is already in the article down below in the Jewish section. Why are some people having a visceral reaction when these core principles and basic, fundamental facts (with factual sources cited) of the utmost importance are in the lead and article? Peteski132 (talk) 05:09, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
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You created a sock puppet. That's an automatic decline. You can take advantage of the standard offer if you like. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:05, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
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I didn't create a "sockpuppet" or sockpuppets, I teach advanced religious/theological courses at a school, as well as from home, and this precise topic was currently being discussed between many teachers and students; and they (I didn't "recruit" them) also felt these core principles and basic, fundamental facts (with factual sources cited) should be in the lead/article, so a few of them created Wikipedia usernames/accounts from the same place/same IP address. I assure you and all involved that this was done solely with the intent to improve the quality of the discussion by broadening participation strictly on policy-related points on these basic, important, fundamental facts, and NOT for votes for a consensus nor for recruiting new editors to influence decisions. I assume this is still against Wiki policy (possibly meatpuppetry), but I assure you of my intent, as well as the intent of the other few teachers and students involved. I also didn't realize that the other editors are advised to declare such connections on their user pages to avoid accusations of meatpuppetry or sockpuppetry. As far as my original claim, I stand by my assertion that important, basic, fundamental facts (with factual sources cited) belong both in the lead and article; and nobody should irrationally censor it nor have visceral reactions toward it.Peteski132 (talk) 01:46, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
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No. This does not appear to be an instance of good faith. And the relationship between the accounts is closer than you indicate. WP:SO won't be available to you unless you come clean; if you do, it may be available to you in six months, if you make zero edits until then. Yamla (talk) 11:44, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
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I am telling the truth, but thanks anyway. Until then? I can't make any edits as I am blocked. Peteski132 (talk) 01:44, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
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Some ideas for what to do in the meanwhile would be to edit productively on another project that you are not blocked at - such as Simple English Wikipedia, Wikimedia Commons, English Wiktionary, etc. SQLQuery me! 22:36, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
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