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SPA/COI

Hi Pmoore65. By way of introduction I work on conflict of interest (COI) issues in Wikipedia. All your edits to date have been about New Fathers 4 Justice and its members, and are fairly promotional.This makes your account what we call a "single purpose account" (please see WP:SPA) I'm giving you notice of our Conflict of Interest guideline and Terms of Use, and will have some questions for you below.

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Comments/questions

Wikipedia is a widely used and trusted reference work, and managing conflict of interest is essential for ensuring the integrity of Wikipedia and retaining the public's trust in it.

Briefly, conflict of interest is managed in Wikipedia in two steps: disclosure of the conflict, and a form of peer review.

First things first - disclosure. Would you please disclose if you have some relationship with [[New Fathers 4 Justice? After you respond (and you can just reply below), perhaps we can talk a bit more about COI in Wikipedia. Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 01:06, 9 June 2015 (UTC).

I have no connection with the group but share some but not alll of their views.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Pmoore65 (talk • contribs) 15:59, 14 June 2015‎ (UTC)

As of Feb 2015 their spokesman was named Pete Moore. Your username is Pmoore65. Would you please clarify? Thanks - and please note that having a COI would not exclude you from Wikipedia - it just means that you would have to do some things differently. Again - managing COI is about protecting the integrity of WP and the public's trust in it - we all need to work together to manage COI. Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 16:07, 14 June 2015 (UTC).

[Pmoore65] is my nephew {{Pmoore65|16:18, 14 June 2015‎ (UTC)}}

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Thanks for replying. You seem to be saying that at least two people use this account - you and your nephew. Is that what you are saying? Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 16:25, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

No this is my account Peter Gary Moore, his name is Peter Glen Moore. Pmoore65 (talk) 16:34, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Gotcha. The way you wrote that above confused me. OK, so Wikipedia's COI guideline says that editing about you or your family, and things they do, constitutes a conflict of interest. So you have a conflict of interest for all these articles about New Fathers 4 Justice you have worked on.

So.. what does that mean? We manage conflict of interest in two ways - disclosure and a form of peer review.

Disclosure: You should make a disclosure on your Userpage (here: User:Pmoore65 - it is a redlink because it is currently blank) along the following lines: "My family is involved in New Fathers 4 Justice and I have a conflict of interest for content related to that organization."

Peer review: It is OK to create an article through the AfC process when you have a COI, but once the article enters Wikipedia, editors with a COI should stop editing the article directly, but instead should use the "edit request" function on the Talk page, to suggest changes to the article. This way, the edit goes through a form of peer review and can be checked to ensure it is neutral and well-sourced. Will you please agree to that going forward? (there is an easy way to do that, that I can explain once we are on the same page).

Please let me know your thoughts on this. Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 17:07, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, took some lessons on editing Wikipedia and thought I would have a go but still a novice reallyPmoore65 (talk) 18:03, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

That is great, I am glad you are exploring. But you have done quite a bit of editing on Fathers 4 Justice and we need to deal with the COI issues. Will you please agree to make the disclosure and make edit requests instead of editing directly? Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 18:04, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Agreed Pmoore65 (talk) 18:07, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

great! Thanks. OK, now for the peer review part of this. Two things. Please do not directly create articles about NF4F or its members going forward, but after you draft them, please put them through the articles for creation process so that they can go through one peer review before they go "live". Once an article where you have a COI is "live", instead of editing the article directly, would you please suggest changes on the Talk page? You can do that easily - and provide notice to the community of your request - by using the "edit request" function as described in the conflict of interest guideline. I made that easy for you by adding a section to the bottom of beige box that is at the top of the Talk page of each article- there is a link at "click here" in that section -- if you click that, the Wikipedia software will automatically format a section in which you can make your request. Thanks. You can reply here if you have any questions or want to discuss anything, or you can ask at the article Talk page. Will you do those two things going forward? Thanks so much. Jytdog (talk) 18:28, 14 June 2015 (UTC)