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Keep up the good work

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		Just wanted to say thanks for all your hard work on the Holy Wood (In the Shadow of the Valley of Death) article. You've done a great job. Freikorp (talk) 23:18, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. -Red marquis (talk) 23:23, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

TFA query

I'm scheduling TFA for January, and I've seen your Holy Wood request for the 5th. However, I have a birthday-linked bio that I'd like to run on that date, would you object if I scheduled it for a different date in Jan? Ping User:Homeostasis07 Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:44, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Wow. Had no idea Holy Wood was up for TFA. I really have no opinions on this, so whatever Red Marquis thinks. The only suggestion I could make for an alternate date in January would be the 13th—the final US date of the Guns, God and Government Tour, which is also the performance included on the Live in L.A. blu-ray; if you wanna work it from that angle. Homeostasis07 (talk) 22:46, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

I'm fine with the reschedule User:Jimfbleak. I also like User:Homeostasis07's idea to push it back to the end of the GGG Tour. -Red marquis (talk) 07:22, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

OK, i'm still working on the list, but it should be either 5th or 13th, depending what else fits Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:40, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

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😁 😁 😁. I'm so happy with this development. There are no further edits I can think of that the article needs. Thanks User:Jimfbleak! -Red marquis (talk) 14:32, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

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TGAOG reviews?

Hey. Thanks for your recent edits to Manson album articles. I really appreciate your additions to Mechanical Animals especially, since it's one of the only Manson articles I've not gotten around to expanding yet (along with Smells Like Children and Eat Me, Drink Me). If you ever have a few moments to spare, could you do me a favour and see if you can find WP:RS's for The Golden Age of Grotesque#Critical reception? It's actually my least favourite Manson album, but of all of the Manson articles I've worked on, I believe TGAOG would have the best shot at FA... except that I've never been able to find enough decent quality reviews. You seem to be ridiculously awesome at finding sources, so if you ever come across some decent RS reviews for TGAOG, I'd love if you could post links to the album's talk page. It's cool if you don't have time, though. Thanks again. ;) Homeostasis07 (talk) 02:14, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

I'll try.-Red marquis (talk) 02:49, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

I found four. But I think you may have already gone through them. I added them to the talk page anyway. Hope they help. -Red marquis (talk) 03:27, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

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Oops. Where did I accidentally do that? -Red marquis (talk) 22:20, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

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Please delete. Thanks. -Red marquis (talk) 02:15, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

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Why did you just delete my sandbox? How am I going to find those sources and articles again? I just stumbled on those while researching another article. Is this how you treat contributors? Because if that's the case why bother contributing to Wikipedia? -Red marquis (talk) 20:42, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

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What now?-Red marquis (talk) 09:51, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

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Fuck you. Give me back my work. I'll take it elsewhere. -Red marquis (talk) 15:59, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Deep breaths.

It sucks when people assume your work is copyvio.

The AfD nominator is being less than polite with their behaviour, but it looks that there's consensus in favour of keeping your article.

Take a deep breath, step away from WP for a bit, maybe contribute elsewhere on the project until this all blows over.

Maybe try to tone down your angry comments, too - I get where they're coming from, but I think people are assuming you're a worse person than you actually are.

Best regards

-- a. ^{get in the spam hole | get nosey} 19:50, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the encouragement. Yeah it sucks because it was only now, a month in, that I figured out the proper social/cultural context in which the article's subject matter exist in-and how to correctly frame it within that context. Having this whole thing suddenly threatened is just stressing me the hell out. -Red marquis (talk) 20:18, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

I admire your determination, but do remember to keep perspective; the world will keep turning without this article, although the encyclopedia may well be better off with it. -- a. ^{get in the spam hole | get nosey} 20:54, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Hey @Red marquis: - sorry about the behaviour of that user. It's incredibly unbecoming of a wikipeidan and I can get why you're frustrated.

Please do try to remain civil, mind. It's hard to figure out who's in the wrong with all the "Fuck you"s flying about.-- a. ^{get in the spam hole | get nosey} 22:06, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Offline Wiki Editing

Hi, I thought this offline editor might be helpful for you given the issues we've had. I understand Homeostasis07 has a copy of the article for you that he is willing to send so this should allow you to edit in a MediaWiki-like interface without having copyright issues. Thanks in advance, RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 21:14, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

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Change made. -Red marquis (talk) 09:51, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

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So what did I copyvio now? Hmmm? Both of those were direct copies of the mainspace article which as you all explained is FINE for editing. That's exactly what I've done. I've not brought back any of the contentious material. That means YOU have gone too far this time. Either yyou didn't actually review the NEW material or you really simply don't like what it contains. You also already deleted one of them. Give me BACK what I was working on. I've had it with you and your elitist club of admin pricks. You're stopping me from working on what I want to EVEN after I followed your rules. If you disagree then SHOW ME how I violated them again before you delete my work! - Red marquis (talk) 20:53, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

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Copying within Wikipedia

Hi, I've become aware of your conflict with RhinosF1 and other editors. I just wanted to let you know that copying within Wikipedia is acceptable, but only if you give the proper attribution for the copy (examples are on the linked page). There's nothing wrong with improving articles in a sandbox, but without attribution such copy/paste edits are considered copyright violations. Please let me know if you have any further questions or concerns about this. Primefac (talk) 21:55, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Attribute WHAT and TO WHOM? Guess who wrote most of what's on Mainspace? I DID! -Red marquis (talk) 22:07, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Well, an example would be Copying content from [[Special:PermaLink/####]] in order to improve content. Simple as that. If you're copying from your sandbox and you're the only one, then you obviously don't need to give attribution to yourself. However, you are not the sole editor to pages like Mechanical Animals and thus attribution must be provided. Primefac (talk) 22:12, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I highly suggest you stop editing Wikipedia for a minute. You've now ignored most of what I've suggested, are throwing around personal attacks at another editor, and if you keep that up you're likely going to be blocked for either blatant copyright violations, PAs, or both. Primefac (talk) 22:16, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Red marquis/sandbox/Fuck Wikipedia Admins sandbox

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February 2019

This is your only warning; if you purposefully and blatantly harass fellow Wikipedian(s) again, as you did at User talk:RhinosF1, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. I get that you're frustrated but you've been around long enough to know better. If you have an issue, take it to WP:DRN or WP:ANI but stop with the personal attacks. Praxidicae (talk) 22:16, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Excuse you. I AM the one whos is being harassed by that dipshit. MY SANDBOXES are being vandalized by him. -Red marquis (talk) 22:18, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Dude, you seriously need to take a chill pill. Go to WP:DRN or WP:ANI but stop with the personal attacks and maybe take a break. Praxidicae (talk) 22:19, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

I know you may feel that it's vandalism, and I think that it's a little over the top to basically sit there patrolling your new pages, but it's not vandalism to point out edits/pages that violate our policies. Primefac (talk) 22:20, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Violate what policies? Again, I copied FREE content from within Wikipedia - Which I WROTE in the first place - to expand upon it. RhinosF1 simply doesn't like the content of the article. Period. -Red marquis (talk) 22:24, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Red marquis Read this. Praxidicae (talk) 22:26, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Just because it is free doesn't mean it's "free of copyright" - Wikipedia content is under copyright, one that requires attribution when copying its content. I highly suggest you read through the first paragraph of Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia, including Because of this, copying content from another page within Wikipedia requires supplementary attribution to indicate it. Just because you might have written most of an article doesn't mean you've written every edit, and thus if you are directly copy/pasting from one location to another you must give some sort of attribution as I described above. Primefac (talk) 22:26, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Now UNDELETE what you just deleted, Primefac. That contained original content from ME. -Red marquis (talk) 22:28, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

A chill pill? I already tried that and he continues to harass me and vandalize my work. I HAVE HAD ENOUGH. -Red marquis (talk) 22:28, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Then undelete it and I'm gonna add the fucking attribution. Like so: "copied content from page name; see that page's history for attribution"

Thank you for providing the attribution, though I would suggest that at its currently location you're likely to get more scrutiny than is really necessary. I would suggest changing it back to a slightly less aggressive (and more appropriate) title. Primefac (talk) 22:45, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

How about no? How about I am sick and tired of EVERYTHING you admins have put me through the past week. -Red marquis (talk) 22:48, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

You're welcome to do as you wish. For what it's worth, not everyone commenting here (or in the other discussions) is an admin. Wikipedia is a weird place, and it's unfortunate that you ended up getting harassed without (as far as I can tell) not really knowing why. I do hope you take some time to read through the copyright policies and continue writing what appear to be very thorough articles. Primefac (talk) 22:52, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

I would continue writing if Wikipedia's Admins (or whoever) would just LEAVE ME ALONE. -Red marquis (talk) 23:09, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Obscene page titles

I've moved User:Red marquis/sandbox/Fuck Wikipedia Admins sandbox to User:Red marquis/sandbox/Dead to the World Tour sandbox 2, as a more appropriate page title. I strongly suggest you read WP:UNCIVIL. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:21, 25 February 2019 (UTC)