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I can see how this has been frustrating for you. The comments in Katie's talk page however are correct - Wikipedia does not allow these types of usernames, even if Commons does. Now, I assume you have access to edit the account's talk page at least? If so then you should be able to appeal the block, stating that you are doing so to request a name change. You can do so here. Any admin can action an unblock request, it doesn't have the be the same as the one who established the original block. If I see that you logged in and you requested an unblock I can take care of it. Just follow the instructions in that notification box. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 21:31, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

As you probably realise now, that user name was in itself a breach of our policies, and the content, a link to your organisation's website, was also not permitted, since the page is for an individual to tell us a bit about themselves. Follow FreeRangeFrog's suggestion above and appeal the block on the user talk page, which you should be able to edit. I won't participate because it wouldn't be fair on you, but I'll accept whatever FRF or any other admin decides Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:24, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

why people try to annyAlay residency rajkot (talk) 11:48, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

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Dear Mr Michael.riessler,

Nice to meet you.

I saw this Kildin Sami test Wikipedia and am impressed that there are already 59 articles. I would like to inquire why the native Kildin Sami speakers have become inactive there since 2012?

Is there any way you could help revitalize it so the native speakers could become active there again? --DaveZ123 (talk) 05:01, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Sorry for answering late. I'm not always following actively what's going on here.

I organized a workshop and showed to native speakers how to use Wikipedia actively (and write in Kildin Saami and Russian). We likely need more such activities, but this hinges on funding and/or on other kinds of motivation. As an academic I'd love to work more in this community oriented direction. But I've a lot of other duties too, for which I'm payed or which give more valuable credits in my professional CV. Unfortunately.

Do you have ideas what to do? -- Michael.riessler (talk) 13:28, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I also do not have sufficient time to fully work on revitalizing this project although this may become possible in the future.

In the meantime could you kindly provide the Kildin Saami translation for this text?:

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." (John 3:16)

Any help from Kildin Saami native speakers would be appreciated, Thank you. (P.S. I could not find a Kildin Saami Bible online, hence this request) --DaveZ123 (talk) 21:51, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi Michael, could you confirm whether this is the Kildin Sami translation of John 3:16?:

"роаввсэнне Ӣммель шоабашт мыр, Альлесь ӣжесь одинокэ, лышшэ югкьенч, вӣррэй Соннӭ, эйй моа̄ййкьеххче я я̄лаххч агесь."

--DaveZ123 (talk) 08:11, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

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Tiõrv! Do you know what the name of this mountain supposedly is in Kildin Saami? I can see it has вӯммь and чо̄рр in it, but no idea what the beginning part is supposed to be or how the entire name is supposed to be written. - Yupik (talk) 19:03, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

There is no tradition of creating official Saami spellings for place names on the Kola peninsula. Very few names are found in the dictionaries or other standard language materials. I understand what the name means (the first component of the compound is a name of the Arctic char), but creating a form in Kildin Saami orthography would be creative and not based on sources. Furthermore, the original name is not Kildin Saami but more likely Akkala Saami. The name is described in T. I. Itkonen's dictionary (1958) on page 971. The Kildin Saami standard language materials give another name for this fish (which is cognate with Skolt Saami räudd).

Oh great find, thanks! I was wondering what the first part meant and if it was Kildin Saami or not. On a separate note, what do you think about the creation of Ter Saami lemmas on Wiktionary since there is no official orthography? I find it really strange and it bothers me since people will think those are official spellings of words in Ter instead of them being made up by someone who is not Ter Saami and afaik does not know the language. -Yupik (talk) 00:35, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Ter Saami has been written (transcribed) by linguists and more recently in a few poetry texts by sisters Voronova and Vinogradova. Their way to presenting Ter Saami is clearly based on Kildin Saami standard orthography with very few deviations in the spelling of individual words. Ter Saami orthography doesn't exist, neither a dictionary or other normative materials. Inventing orthographic spellings for Wictionary seems problematic. But what can we do? --Rießler (talk) 07:01, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

IMO inventing orthographic spellings for Wiktionary is original research, which is clearly frowned upon, so I don't think it's a good idea unless the words can be found in the sisters' texts written that way. Otherwise we should just stick to the forms that can be attested, even if they are written in UPA. As it stands, unattested forms are in danger of being deleted off of Wikimedia projects. -Yupik (talk) 17:33, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

If so let's delete these unattested forms! Btw, in one of my papers I have written one sentence en passant about the nonexistence of Ter Saami standard orthography ("Kola Sámi literature (Kildin Sámi, Ter Sámi, Akkala Sámi)" 2018, page 73). Perhaps this can be used as an argument? Please tell me if I can help with Wictionary (I don't normally work there). Would it help for instance to get the complete list of words from the two relevant books? I think I have these texts digitally. --Rießler (talk) 18:01, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

By the way, the description of the meaning in the WP:RU («гора гудящей долины») is based on a folk etymology. Rießler (talk) 08:46, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, it sounded like that to me too, but I sometimes get tired of battling those types of cases. And I do nothing on ruwiki since I just get reverted every time. -Yupik (talk) 00:35, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

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