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SDCC 2017 Panel proposal
@Doczilla: In a conversation with Bluerasberry (talk · contribs) and Pharos (talk · contribs), your name came up as a potential panelist or moderator for a Wikipedia/Wikimedia panel. Would you be interested? I am also looking to see if mxn (talk · contribs) is interested as well, as his work on Vietnamese Wikipedia, I think would be an interested story to tell.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 00:02, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- Doczilla, I read on your user page that you have presented at Comic Con in the past. RightCow is in San Diego, I am in New York with the Wikipedians there, and we have been wondering when and how we should present Wikipedia at a Comic Con. It seems like there are already Wikipedians attending in both San Diego and NYC. Do you have any thoughts on what sort of presentation might be right for this crowd? Would you like to talk more about a panel for this year? Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:12, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for thinking of me. Yes, I've been on panels there and at many other cons. I'm usually on at least four SDCC panels each year. I've always thought a panel about Wikipedia could be interesting if done right, so I'm totally up for this. Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 17:47, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Psanchez820 and Mxn:, would you be interested in being on this panel as well? @Doczilla: would you be interested in moderating this panel?
- How does this sound like for a panel description:
Title: Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia
Description: Wikipedia is one of the most popular websites on the internet, and is the most popular general reference work. Millions have contributed edits, to create a near endless amount of articles, in dozens of languages (including Klingon, and American Sign Language (in incubator stage)). Come and listen to some of the many editors of Wikipedia,-list of panelists will be added here- learn how you too can become a user of Wikipedia, and ask questions to expand your knowledge. - I am thinking that a maximum of 5 panelist would be good, giving each 6 minutes to talk, allowing for 20 minutes of questions (as panels are an hour each, but they usually ask to give time at the beginning and end of your hour for a buffer for the panel before and after).--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:32, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- The title needs something to jazz it up and grab attention, maybe a subtitle referring to things like Klingon language. The convention organizers get 4 or 5 times as many submissions as they can accept, so we really need to grab their attention. This does have an advantage over some topics because SDCC needs educational panels to reinforce their nonprofit status. Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 18:55, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- Perhaps something like "Behind the edit button: A look at Wikipedia"?--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 19:03, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- The title needs something to jazz it up and grab attention, maybe a subtitle referring to things like Klingon language. The convention organizers get 4 or 5 times as many submissions as they can accept, so we really need to grab their attention. This does have an advantage over some topics because SDCC needs educational panels to reinforce their nonprofit status. Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 18:55, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- Wow! thanks for thinking of me! I would be very interested in being in the panel. I haven't been on panels like this before but I think that the Comic Con crowd could definitely be interested in Wikipedia. It could include a look at a specific article and showing them what happens "Behind the edit button" literally? Psanchez820 (talk) 19:40, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Pharos and Mxn: I am waiting to hear back from you two, and then I would think that would make five people for the panel, including @Doczilla, Psanchez820, and Bluerasberry:. If others feel that someone else should be included, such as someone directly from Wikimedia, let me know, or reach out to them here by pinging them.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 20:56, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- What about recruiting some comic book or film writer (someone who's likely to be at Comic-Con anyway) to discuss the Wikipedia pages about him/herself and projects he/she worked on? That might both raise the odds that the panel is accepted and then help attract an audience. Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 23:27, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)Like a live test subject to edit their biography, which would then fall under WP:BLPEDIT?
- I have indirect contacts to Tony Fleecs and Andy Price.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 23:31, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- What about recruiting some comic book or film writer (someone who's likely to be at Comic-Con anyway) to discuss the Wikipedia pages about him/herself and projects he/she worked on? That might both raise the odds that the panel is accepted and then help attract an audience. Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 23:27, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Pharos and Mxn: I am waiting to hear back from you two, and then I would think that would make five people for the panel, including @Doczilla, Psanchez820, and Bluerasberry:. If others feel that someone else should be included, such as someone directly from Wikimedia, let me know, or reach out to them here by pinging them.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 20:56, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- Hey RightCowLeftCoast, thanks for the invitation – this is a cool idea! Unfortunately, I'm unable to make it down to San Diego that weekend, but best of luck with this panel! – Minh Nguyễn 💬 06:39, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Mxn: Thanks for letting me know. I found your talk about Vietnamese Wikipedia and dealing with the Socialist Republic of Vietnam to be fascinating, and was hoping you can talk about that during the panel, but such is life. Perhaps some future event.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 06:48, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
- Hey RightCowLeftCoast, thanks for the invitation – this is a cool idea! Unfortunately, I'm unable to make it down to San Diego that weekend, but best of luck with this panel! – Minh Nguyễn 💬 06:39, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
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Nomination of Russian-Syrian hospital bombing campaign for deletion
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Conservatism in the US
I added Donald J. Trump as a prominent person in the conservative office holders section.Thanos54! (talk) 02:00, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
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Conservatism In the United States
Should Kenneth S. Wherry be considred in the prominent politicians and office holders list ? He was a leading leader of the Old Right as an isolationist ?Thanos54! (talk) 07:56, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Thanos54!: such discussion is best to be done on the talk page of the article, and not my talk page. To include an individual in an embedded list, reliable source(s) should still be used to verify listed item qualifies to be on the list. Another consideration is WP:WEIGHT, as not all individuals who can be verified as an American Conservative is listed.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 08:05, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
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Cuban Americans
I notice that you, like me, delete names placed to 'List of fooian Americans' articles who do not meet the inclusion criteria. Could you help me pay attention to the List of Cuban Americans article where one new editor insists on adding non qualified names despite my warnings to him. Thanks Hmains (talk) 03:27, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Hmains: it looks like good work so far. That said, the individual in question appears to have already violated WP:3RR already. You're already at 2rr. If you need more support just let me know, and I will verify if the individuals meet WP:LISTVERIFY to belong on the list.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 03:38, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
- Please see the Cuban list now. Thanks. Hmains (talk) 15:12, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Hmains: Done. I have also asked the editor to take it to the talk page.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 23:28, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
If you want a edit war you will get it. I will keep adding Cuban Americans which are notable to the Cuban American List. Your removal and vandalism is a violation and will be reported and lead to your blocking. Please stop your racist actions. If you want to help built the article assist in making corrections and links to pages. Removal just keep creating more work for us. How do you think pages are created idiots? List and others will add edits to them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Migueldbravo (talk • contribs) 23:57, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Migueldbravo:
Removal just keep creating more work for us.
- Who is "us"?--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 00:33, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
I have reported you for harassment!!!! Please stop your harassment and bullying! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Migueldbravo (talk • contribs) 00:42, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
I have reported you for harassment!!!! Please stop your harassment and bullying!
Us is the wikipedia editing community. Assist in adding and growing our articles not bullying and removing additions thats a simple google search can confirm are credible Cuban American. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Migueldbravo (talk • contribs) 00:46, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
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Stop
Stop posting over and over on my talk page. Why do you think we have a quotation needed tag? You don't have to post one, but you can't just remove the tag because you feel like it and leave an edit summary that you "Fixed the cite." Any editor is allowed to request a quotation to verify a source and check for synth or OR. If you don't understand why, then maybe don't edit controversial articles. Seraphim System (talk) 17:56, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
- Please stop, the above statement appears to meet WP:DAPE.
- An editor can read the sources provided. Providing the source(s) meets WP:BURDEN & WP:VER. Any reader can read the sources provided, and if there is contentious that the source(s) do not verify the content in the article, then one can begin a discussion on the talk page.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:01, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
- You should cite enough information for the editor to find the sources. I use Zotero for full cites and I recommend it. Even though the URLs was available it wasn't in the cite- when the URL was added, I checked the source and it failed verification. Hmm... Seraphim System (talk) 02:03, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
Harassment
I appreciate your work today and I don't mind if you post on my talk page to discuss article development in the future, but please stop posting unnecessary warnings, templates and trouts. Posting 2 unnecessary warnings and a trout in 24 hours is excessive, stop. Seraphim System (talk) 01:59, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
- I would argue it is Seraphim System (talk · contribs) is harassing me, and have been WP:UNCIVIL. Also please see WP:AVOIDYOU.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 20:58, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
User name typo
The account is Jenny B edits You welcomed JennyBedits w/o spaces. Interesting, when editing the JennyBedits talk page, I see a not registered message. registration check states registered in 2008. No edits by JennyBedits, however. I requested speedy. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 23:20, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for catching this issue.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 00:22, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
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Groom Mine
I just wanted to say this is a nice piece of work and interesting to read. I remember reading about the government seizure of this mine, and some of the history of it. Nice to see an article about it here now on Wikipedia! --Hammersoft (talk) 15:35, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
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Stephen C. Ananian
Stephen C. Ananian meets notability as a Wikipedia article because he is one of the few pilots to shoot down Me-262 and as pilot of Armenia hertiage, is entitled for notability like other Armenian-American USAAF officers like Carl Genian and Ray Melikian. Bookish Worm (talk) 10:20 AM, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Bookish Worm: Please see Talk:Messerschmitt Me 262#Merger discussion as there are two editors who are suggesting the article in question should be brought to AfD.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 16:58, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
I get your concerns
RCLC, I completely understand your concerns regarding gun politics. I'm trying to stick to policies as much as possible in a few related areas [[1]], [[2]],["Media_campaigns"_section] and [[3]]. It's not easy as I feel like I'm trying to balance accusations of being an NRA shill with that seems to be reasonable, policy based edits. Anyway, I do understand your view that the original act wasn't related to gun politics and thus it shouldn't included. The automotive RFC (the last one) is a useful reference because it helped establish that just because a thing (a car) featured prominently in a notable thing/event (crime) doesn't mean that crime is commonly associated with that crime. Thus the Ford F-650 article doesn't talk about the Oklahoma City bombing even though most articles about the crime mention a Ford F-600. But in the case of the Dick Act it does seem like most references I found via a quick Google search do talk about the gun control angle so that's why I would lean in that direction. Just wanted to let you know I really do get your POV here and I have a few scars to prove it. Springee (talk) 00:19, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
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Hi
"In the US Census, people with origins or ancestry in the Far East, Southeast Asia, and the Indian subcontinent are classified as part of the Asian race;[21] while those with origins or ancestry in North Asia (Russians, Siberians), Central Asia (Kazakhs, Uzbeks, Turkmens, etc.), Western Asia (diaspora Jews, Turks, Persians, West Asian Arabs, etc.), and the Caucasus (Georgians, Armenians, Azeris) are classified as "white" or "Middle Eastern".[22][23][24][25]"
This passage isn't claiming that the above mentioned groups are Asian-American. Instead it is clarifying the US definition of Asian by pointing out how Middle Easterners, Central Asians, and Russians are not included even though they are geographically of Asian origin. I added Israelis next to diaspora Jews (i.e. Jewish Americans) because they are more or less the same people.
I hope that makes sense. Let me know please. 2601:84:4502:61EA:456F:E528:DD7:CF11 (talk) 22:30, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
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Autopatrolled granted
Hi RightCowLeftCoast, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the autopatrolled right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! ~ Amory (u • t • c) 10:25, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
Comic-Con International
I'm responding here to a just-received email re San Diego Comic-Con. I think you've made a non-optimal choice here. I'm located on the other side of the planet, in the Philippines, I'm not disposed to cover my expenses out of pocket, and I don't have any relevant topical background, etc. (there must be more reasons). It sounds like great fun, but I don't think I'm your guy. Cheers, Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 04:46, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue CXLIIV, April 2018
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Nolder
You wrote this appraisal on my Nolder Did You Know nominations page : "This article appears to be a translation from the Italian wiki, the hook appears to be cited, but not all paragraphs in the body of the article have a citation, and no QPQ appears to have been done RightCowLeftCoast"
It takes a lot of time to create an article and get it to the DYK stage, and to have someone dismiss it as an article I had "translated", an article that doesn't happen to exist -- is hugely insulting and disrectful. Did you assume this because two of the sources are in Italian? That's how difficult it was to get sources on this article. It's already gotten to the point where its extremely difficult to get an article through the DYK nomination process, it now involves a phallanx of over-eager DYK enforces, and yet still many of the DYK's that do get through are insipid or just plain promotional. But thanks for accusing me of "translating" another article; it just clarifies for me that much of this effort is a waste of time. 842U (talk) 21:20, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)@842U: Please see WP:TRANSLATETOHERE, translation from another language Wikipedia is OK, and not copyright violation.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 21:26, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
- DUDE, PLEASE STOP ACCUSING ME OF TRANSLATING THE ARTICLE. THERE IS NOT AN ITALIAN ARTICLE TO TRANSATE FROM. I DID NOT TRANSLATE SOMEONE ELSE'S ARTICLE. I USED TWO SOURCES THAT ARE SHOWN IN ITALIAN. PERIOD. WHAT A WAY TO DISMISS THE EFFORT OF ANOTHER EDITOR!842U (talk) 13:27, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)@842U: Please see WP:TRANSLATETOHERE, translation from another language Wikipedia is OK, and not copyright violation.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 21:26, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Goat Canyon Trestle
Hello:
The copy edit that you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Goat Canyon Trestle has been completed.
Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
Best of luck with the A-class review.
Regards,
Twofingered Typist (talk) 14:16, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- When you've added the content the reviewer has requested to the article let me know and I'll give the articled another edit, if you like. Twofingered Typist (talk) 20:42, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
DYK for Groom Mine
On 21 April 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Groom Mine, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Groom Mine has a view over Area 51? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Groom Mine. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Groom Mine), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.