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Contents WikiCast: Pull Stream... Owing to some concerns raised in #Wikipedia, suggest you check on what the (C) situation re the stream would be again, given the recent changes to royalty arrangments. At the moment I am seriously considering if the stream can exist at all. ShakespeareFan00 16:52, 2 May 2007 (UTC) New AccReqBot task? AccReqBot is very helpful at WP:ACC, but there's another task that's being discussed on the talk page that might be appropriate for a bot. We're using the {{ACC}} template to tag the status of a request in machine-readable form; if a request has been tagged with {{ACC}} for 3 days, and its first parameter is neither 's' nor 'similar', could the bot remove the request as rejected? (It wouldn't have to be 3 days exactly, just run on a typical archivebot schedule, removing rather than archiving the requests.) At the moment, rejected requests just build up. Thanks! --ais523 12:27, 4 May 2007 (UTC) Oh, and any sections tagged {{ACC|c}} should be archived as successful as soon as the bot notices (it's used to manually tag created accounts that the bot misses). --ais523 12:41, 4 May 2007 (UTC) I'll have a look, shouldn't be too hard. ST47Talk 18:52, 4 May 2007 (UTC) Working on this now. ST47Talk 13:53, 6 May 2007 (UTC) Can you put me in check page Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage#Bots --Khunter 18:58, 4 May 2007 (UTC) Comments on Shadow1's page... Yes. That relates to the Channel contact which for most purposes is what's needed. However, should an IRC channel need to be dropped, for example to name change, that requires the original 'registration' password NOT the channel contact AFIAK ShakespeareFan00 07:58, 6 May 2007 (UTC) AccReqBot Any chance of running another copy of the bot? Extranet (Talk | Contribs) 09:13, 6 May 2007 (UTC) I don't understand - would you like a copy? ST47Talk 11:23, 6 May 2007 (UTC) No, I see the need for a second copy of the bot to be run, so is it possible to run a redundant copy of it (e.g. AccReqBot2)? Or, is it a one bot only thing? Extranet talk 11:27, 6 May 2007 (UTC) We can do that. I'll put in for a BRFA. ST47Talk 11:28, 6 May 2007 (UTC) Oh ok, thats great. Will it require a m:Toolserver account or is it run manually? Could you give a few more specs on it? I'm off to bed now, will check back in morning. Extranet talk 11:33, 6 May 2007 (UTC) We can use my toolserv account for both. ST47Talk 11:36, 6 May 2007 (UTC) And then perhaps use mine when it's activated? Extranet talk 12:08, 6 May 2007 (UTC) Sure! ST47Talk 13:53, 6 May 2007 (UTC) There's some more comments at the BRFA. Could you please look over them? Cheers. Extranet talk 20:58, 6 May 2007 (UTC) Oops, didn't notice. Just a moment. ST47Talk 21:00, 6 May 2007 (UTC) It would be impossible to run it from my computer as I have bandwidth issues with my ISP, thats why I rather run it on the m:Toolserver. Tell me more information on what I can do. And, maybe you can give the toolserver request a bit of a bump? Extranet talk 21:31, 6 May 2007 (UTC) Well, we can put it on toolserv, we'd just be subject to toolserver downtime. I thought the point of running another copy was to avoid that. ST47Talk 21:35, 6 May 2007 (UTC) Oh, alright. It's just that you said earlier that we could use the toolserver. As you can already see, there is three HBC AIV helperbots running and I really thought there was the need for two AccReqBots because if say you have to update yours, mine would keep running the tasks, and so on. I can, on some circumstances run the bot from my spare Windows 98 computer, but as I said, the bandwidth issues with my current ISP really puts that off. If you don't really think there is a point of running it anymore, I will just have to resist not running a bot on Wikipedia. I'm sorry I have put all this on you at one time, but I just enjoy running and maintaining bots, while also contributing myself. Many thanks, Extranet talk 21:43, 6 May 2007 (UTC) Have you taken a look at using AWB in bot mode to fulfill some requests listed at WP:BOTREQ? Martinp23 21:49, 6 May 2007 (UTC) I don't think I have enough mainspace edits to be accepeted on the CheckList, but I have applied for AWB. Extranet talk 22:36, 6 May 2007 (UTC) Email alert You have mail :) Martinp23 10:42, 6 May 2007 (UTC) Again - Martinp23 16:55, 6 May 2007 (UTC) Noted, read, acted. ST47Talk 18:35, 6 May 2007 (UTC) Thanks :) - I appreciate it. Martinp23 18:45, 6 May 2007 (UTC) Your edit to User talk:AGK Your edit summary ;) thanks for brightening up my day! Good luck with the RfA, by the looks of it you'll soon be joining me cleaning up the Vandals! Kind regards, Anthony 00:11, 7 May 2007 (UTC) Your 3rd RfA Can I possibly insert my co-nomination? You really deserve it as you are kind and loyal to the whole entire Wikipedia community. Extranet talk 02:02, 7 May 2007 (UTC) I declined that well over a month ago :( ST47Talk 02:06, 7 May 2007 (UTC) We could always start it up again eh? Only if you want to :) Extranet talk 02:09, 7 May 2007 (UTC) AccReqBot Your bot is trying to blank the account request page. I've sent in a block request while you sort out the problem, but please do so. -Amarkov moo! 02:20, 7 May 2007 (UTC) I have blocked the bot accordingly, pending the resolution of the issue. -- tariqabjotu 02:22, 7 May 2007 (UTC) That's not supposed to happen. I'll look at it. ST47Talk 02:30, 7 May 2007 (UTC) I broke something while screwing around with the framework. Fixed. ST47Talk 01:05, 8 May 2007 (UTC) The bot doesn't seem to be removing the created ones at this moment... Extranet talk 06:04, 8 May 2007 (UTC) Signpost updated for May 7th, 2007. The Wikipedia Signpost Weekly Delivery Volume 3, Issue 19 7 May 2007 About the Signpost Four administrator accounts desysopped after hijacking, vandalism Digg revolt over DVD key spills over to Wikipedia Debate over non-free images heats up Update on Wikimania 2007 Norwegian Wikipedian awarded scholarship WikiWorld comic: "Friday the 13th" News and notes: Election volunteers, admin contest, milestones Features and admins The Report on Lengthy Litigation Home  |  Archives  |  Newsroom  |  Tip Line  |  Single-Page View Shortcut : WP:POST You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot 06:37, 8 May 2007 (UTC) AccReqBot not working? The bot doesn't seem to be removing the created accounts at the moment... Is there still a problem with it? Also, with the AccReqBot2 BRFA, I have stated that I am very keen on it and don't really see a problem about running another one along side it, because if one goes down (like yours did yesterday), my copy will still run. And with updates, we can update the code at different times so that it is still monitored. And remember, if the toolserver goes down, that's not really out fault. But, I don't really see it being approved, just like all my bots have been declined (except for one!). Extranet talk 09:50, 8 May 2007 (UTC) I've added a note saying that I want a clone, both to prevent coding fuckups and these weird crashes that I can't isolate, and I hope it gets approved. Also, I've restarted my copy. ST47Talk 10:49, 8 May 2007 (UTC) I've reblocked the bot again. It's interacting badly with customized signatures, cutting them off at the first = sign, and messing up the page. (Presumably, you're looking for = to find the end of a section rather than newline-=). --ais523 10:51, 8 May 2007 (UTC) I thought I fixed that! Please unblock, I've added a lookahead assertion for ==, and I've got to go to school.ST47Talk 10:56, 8 May 2007 (UTC) And there it is again, another reason for the redundant copy! Have a nice day at school, I'm off to bed now :P Extranet talk 10:58, 8 May 2007 (UTC) Unblocked now. --ais523 11:25, 8 May 2007 (UTC) It doesn't look like the bot approval will succeed. I'll just have to find another non-admin job to do around here... AWB looks too hard to work with. AccReqBot looks like its running great now. Extranet talk 09:18, 9 May 2007 (UTC) On the subject of AccReqBot, it was agreed on the talk page of WP:ACC that having a welcome message is ,well, welcome. John Reaves (talk) 21:43, 10 May 2007 (UTC) Cool, I'll have a look. ST47Talk 22:24, 10 May 2007 (UTC) Cleanup from other stuff.. User:ST47/Wikimania - This can't now happen. Re-factor or delete (keeping a record for yourself)? There are pages to do with Class President that should be removed as uncyclopediac as well. (but keep copies for yourself) ShakespeareFan00 19:56, 8 May 2007 (UTC) I dbed that page, removed the link, and removed the userbox. That's the only stuff visible from my userpage. I'll zapp everything else next time I clear out my userspace. ST47Talk 20:01, 8 May 2007 (UTC) Your NPWatcher Application Dear ST47, Thank you for applying for NPWatcher! You've been approved to use it. Before you run the program, please check the changelog on the application page to see if there is a newer release (or just add the main page (here) to your watchlist). Report any bugs or feature suggestion here. If you need help, feel free to contact me or join NPWatcher. «Snowolf How can I help?» 12:22, 11 May 2007 (UTC) Thanks! ST47Talk 17:56, 11 May 2007 (UTC) Admin I also would like to nominate you for adminship, I think you (and Wikipedia) can benefit from the tools. Let me know if it's ok for you ;-) «Snowolf How can I help?» 12:22, 11 May 2007 (UTC) Hi! I am honored that you would offer, but I don't with to stand for adminship at this time, due not only to a recent failed RfA (whenever that was) but also to the fact that my written finals are beginning, then my 'real' finals the 3rd week of June. I'd rather give it a few months, see if I have time to participate in this project in such a role, finish indexing, or at least summarizing, my talk archives, and perhaps try to write an FA. Thanks! ST47Talk 18:01, 11 May 2007 (UTC) WP:AIV Thank you for making a report about Lopopl (talk · contribs · block log) on Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. Reporting and removing vandalism is vital to the functioning of Wikipedia and all users are encouraged to revert, warn, and report vandalism. However, administrators are generally only able to block users if they have received a recent final warning (one that mentions that the user may be blocked) and they have recently vandalized after that warning was given. The reported user has not yet been blocked because it appears this has not occurred yet. If this user continues to vandalize even after their final warning, please report them to the AIV noticeboard again. Thank you. --Nlu (talk) 18:25, 11 May 2007 (UTC) BRFA You might want to follow up the BRFA please. Extranet talk 04:07, 12 May 2007 (UTC) I think we should withdrawl this request for approval. Instead of running a bot, I will try to learn how AWB works and possibly host some PHP and Perl scripts on the toolserver when I get it. If thats okay with you, I am sorry for taking up your time. Extranet talk 12:39, 12 May 2007 (UTC) Sure, I'll do it in a few moments. If you need anything with AWB, don't hesitate to ask. ST47Talk 12:46, 12 May 2007 (UTC) WP:RFBOT Your recent bot approvals request has been withdrawn. Please see the request page for details. ST47Talk 13:37, 12 May 2007 (UTC) Illegal addition to talk page You may not add anything to my talk page without prior consent. 76.197.136.95 17:08, 12 May 2007 (UTC) Vandalism on User talk:76.197.136.95 {{bv|User talk:76.197.136.95}} Baseless warnings I've removed them for you, and reported the user to WP:AIV :) Will (is it can be time for messages now plz?) 17:09, 12 May 2007 (UTC) thanks!! I have an admin on it. ST47Talk 17:10, 12 May 2007 (UTC) I'm going to re-add one set, for the record. ST47Talk 17:12, 12 May 2007 (UTC) GO FUCK YOURSELF va napoli! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.164.166.197 (talk) 23:29, 12 May 2007 (UTC). Once I'm done reverting all your vandalisms, I will consider your request. The chances aren't too good. ST47Talk 23:30, 12 May 2007 (UTC) Bot idea Hello again! Sorry to bother you, but as I have been going around the place today, I have found the need for an archival bot on two popular pages. They are Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser and Wikipedia:Abuse reports. They both are currently archived manually, but I'm sure I can set up a new routine where they add a certain 'finished', 'declined', etc. tag to the bottom of the request and let it be archived to a subpage such as /Completed requests or /Declined requests. Let me know what you think about it. Primarily, if you think it is good, and we were to request it, the name would be ExtranetBot (which I can create), so that I can run multiple tasks from the one. It would also be most likely run on the toolserver. As I said, let me know what you think and whether we would really need one. Many thanks, Extranet talk 03:30, 13 May 2007 (UTC) Well, we have checkuser clerks that archive all that, I suoopse that if you could write an algorithm for archiving WP:ABUSE, that would work. ST47Talk 10:55, 13 May 2007 (UTC) I'm not really good at writing bots. If possible, could I get the source code of AccReqBot so I can use that as a template? Would that be a good template to write the bot off? If it is, that would make it easier and I could even learn some perl along the way. Extranet talk 11:00, 13 May 2007 (UTC) Well, AccReqBot is online at User:ST47/ARB, but that's for a very different task. How about you write down a process step by step, then we can start trying to write real code off of that template. ST47Talk 11:04, 13 May 2007 (UTC) I've left a note at the WP:ABUSE talk page to see if we can reach a consensus on that theory. Let's see how it goes! Extranet talk 21:01, 13 May 2007 (UTC) PolarBot Thank you for your fast approval. There are projects with some ten-thousand articles where it takes weeks to get a bot flag. Regards, --Polarlys 20:52, 13 May 2007 (UTC) No problem, we've been trying to speed up the process. Good luck! --ST47Talk 21:09, 13 May 2007 (UTC) AccReqBot welcome User:AccReqBot adds {{welcome}} to newly created accounts' talk pages. That template really seems better suited for users who have made contributions that are welcomed by human editors. If the bot's going to welcome users, could a better template be used and signed by the bot? I've created a variation of the welcome template here. It will always display the new user's user creation log on the This account was created for you link. What do you think? WODUP 07:35, 14 May 2007 (UTC) I've changed it to User:ST47/Welcome, is that OK? --ST47Talk 10:17, 14 May 2007 (UTC) Yes, thank you. It seems more appropriate for this purpose. Why, though, doesn't the bot sign its message? WODUP 17:16, 14 May 2007 (UTC) It's supposed to...Let me fix it. --ST47Talk 17:58, 14 May 2007 (UTC) Looks good. Thanks for changing that. :) WODUP 00:17, 16 May 2007 (UTC) AWB I need to know how to make revisions by making it search wikilinks on an article for more changes if you know what I mean? Say List of countries, how do I get it to make it to search each country's article for the change? Extranet talk 20:32, 14 May 2007 (UTC) You have 2 ways, either go to make list and select Links on page or get your list of source articles, such as List of countries, select them all, right click, add selected to list, from links on page. Good luck! --ST47Talk 21:59, 14 May 2007 (UTC) Thanks for that, works a treat! Also, are you possibly able to write the bot code for the WP:ABUSE archival? It would be much appreciated if you could so I can apply for the approval soon. Extranet talk 06:55, 15 May 2007 (UTC) RfA trial run I'm really pleased to see someone making the effort to try out my proposal. I'm not entirely convinced it will work, but I'll be interested to see what happens. One thing though, would you mind 'taking over' (as I won't have much time in the next few days to devote to this), and also using your name rather than mine? Call it something like "ST47's trial run based on Carcharoth's proposal". I haven't really fleshed out my proposal enough to take any credit (or blame!) for this, so it would be great if you could write stuff up on a new page (feel free to link from that page to my original proposal, or even to copy from what I wrote there), outline the history of the proposal, and then link to that new page in the notice you send out to panel members, rather than to my original proposal? Hope this is OK. Thanks. Carcharoth 09:46, 15 May 2007 (UTC) I can expand it based on my interpretation, but I'm not running it as much as giving it a stern push. We have enough of an outline for a trial, and afterwards we'll see any problems and can update that. I'm expecting to have a good panel by tonight, I can take your explanation and add whatever details we've fleshed out. --ST47Talk 10:18, 15 May 2007 (UTC) Signpost updated for May 14th, 2007. The Wikipedia Signpost Weekly Delivery Volume 3, Issue 20 14 May 2007 About the Signpost Administrator status restored to five accounts after emergency desysopping User committed identities provide protection against account hijacking Academic journals multiply their analyses of Wikipedia WikiWorld comic: "Ubbi dubbi" Features and admins The Report on Lengthy Litigation Home  |  Archives  |  Newsroom  |  Tip Line  |  Single-Page View Shortcut : WP:POST You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot 03:27, 16 May 2007 (UTC) Choad I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article Choad, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. JodyB talk 15:17, 16 May 2007 (UTC) And...??? --ST47Talk 17:56, 16 May 2007 (UTC) Comment removals... All that could be easiyl reverted now done so.. Thanks for being on the ball, I am sure we all get 'crazy' days :( ShakespeareFan00 20:31, 16 May 2007 (UTC) Thanks! --ST47Talk 20:42, 16 May 2007 (UTC) AccReqBot Hi, would it be possible to get the bot to ignore requests that have an empty username, as these are probably malformed and would need to be dealt with manually. Thanks, Tra (Talk) 17:10, 20 May 2007 (UTC) A Barnstar for You The da Vinci Barnstar is awarded to ST47 for his outstanding effort and cooperation in creating AccReqBot and saving countless hours on Wikipedia:Request an account. Thanks! alphachimp 17:10, 20 May 2007 (UTC) Nope, there's nothing wrong with it. I'm excited that you are finally formally approved. Thanks for remaining so responsive to our requests. alphachimp 17:10, 20 May 2007 (UTC) Thanks! /me is glad it's approved as well! --ST47Talk 17:29, 20 May 2007 (UTC) WP:ABUSE archive bot Also, are you possibly able to write the bot code for the WP:ABUSE archival? It would be much appreciated if you could so I can apply for the approval soon. Extranet talk 06:55, 15 May 2007 (UTC) Regarding wP:ABUSE, I can't write code to do something that I don't even understand, so you need to write an outline for what to do and when, for example, check each abuse report transcluded on WP:ABUSE to see if it has template A. If so, remove it. If it has template B, move it to the rejected requests. If it has template C, wait 5 days then delete it. If there have been to edits for a month, archive it.. You can't say archive WP:ABUSE because I have no idea what WP:ABUSE is. --ST47Talk 00:49, 16 May 2007 (UTC) I have just completed the outline for the archival bot. I hope you are able to help me with this, it would be much appreciated. Anyway, the main outline for it can be found at User:E/botoutline. Many thanks, Extranet is now E talk 06:49, 21 May 2007 (UTC) Great, thanks! I've begun writing code, see User:E/botsource. --ST47Talk 10:33, 21 May 2007 (UTC) Thank you for that, I will check back in the morning to see the progress. Also, I noticed on the source code, you have put '#####NEED TO KNOW - ADD TO TOP OR BOTTOM???'. The answer to that would be to add to the bottom - same with the rejected requests. Extranet is now E talk 10:39, 21 May 2007 (UTC) Done. Here's a sample output - only two errors, and they're recurring and they aren't on my side, malformed transclusions or nonexisting pages: st47@Ubuntu710XPS:~$ perl ABUSEbot.pl Now on IP Now on 72.76.248.151 Could not get_text for Wikipedia:Abuse reports/207.35.123.34: 200 OK at ABUSEbot.pl line 18 Now on 207.35.123.34 Now on 24.241.97.194 Now on 204.184.192.200 Now on 172.x.x.x Now on 209.18.49.30 Now on 75.22.35.228 Now on 194.217.93.116 Could not get_text for Wikipedia:Abuse reports/67.158.110.194: 200 OK at ABUSEbot.pl line 18 Now on 67.158.110.194 Now on 194.83.209.102 Now on 207.144.70.66 Now on 24.249.25.169 Now on 131.109.28.246 Now on 209.142.199.226 Now on 63.172.4.6 Now on 84.217.176.245 Now on 72.1.206.190 Now on 142.227.245.67 Now on 67.95.199.114 Now on 69.51.81.130 Now on 208.66.198.218 Now on 216.56.4.194 Now on 71.88.23.164 Now on 24.154.55.9 Now on 137.84.0.169 Now on 195.8.171.130 Now on 71.156.169.130 Now on 207.74.86.129 Now on 207.166.7.208 Now on 207.236.174.x Now on 164.58.153.153 Now on 216.120.146.3 Now on 12.111.77.131 Now on 205.202.240.108 Now on 66.90.137.157 Now on 72.160.68.221 Now on 134.233.132.6 Now on 71.90.81.38 Now on 88.109.x.x_88.110.x.x_and_88.111.x.x_Ranges Now on 64.18.36.2 Now on 72.177.68.38 Now on 72.1.206.10 Now on 60.30.x.x and 70.8.x.x range Now on 64.90.250.32 Sleeping for 5 minutes... I'll make one modification and then put the working code on that page. Do you have a toolserv account yet? --ST47Talk 18:18, 21 May 2007 (UTC) No, I'm still waiting patiently at m:Toolserver/New accounts for one... It doesn't seem DaB. has been there for a while. Maybe you could give it a push? Also, how do you exactly run a bot on the toolserver? What edit rate would the bot need? Thanks for that code. It's really much appreciated :) Extranet is now E talk 20:40, 21 May 2007 (UTC) Edit rate? Slow. No more than 30 a day, I would say. Running a bot on toolserv, you SSH to it, you can make a little perl script that downloads it from the subpage to a file, then you just type chmod +x filename and screen ./filename. --ST47Talk 22:00, 21 May 2007 (UTC) I don't really understand how to operate and run something on the toolserver... Also, SSH is a secure FTP right? Correct me if I'm wrong and is it possible for you to help me install it and get it running? Extranet is now E talk 06:01, 22 May 2007 (UTC) Close! SSH is secure shell, so essentially you get access to that computer from your own. If you run windows, google PuTTY - you need to download the windows installer, that will give you PuTTY itself and PuTTYgen. Install it, and run PuTTYgen, you need to create and save an SSH key somewhere easy to remember. Once you're approved for toolserv, you'll be asked to send in part of that key, but if you need help with that you can ask on IRC. Someone can also walk you through connecting, don't know where the options are, but you need to set the host to hemlock.knams.wikimedia.org port 22 protocol SSH, and you probably need to point it to your key. Once you're in there's some sort of SFTP thing you do to move files around. --ST47Talk 10:29, 22 May 2007 (UTC) Okay thanks. I'll do that, but wait for the toolserver account to be created... I doubt anytime soon, but I really want this bot running. Extranet is now E talk 10:42, 22 May 2007 (UTC) You might as well request approval, then just move it to toolserv once you have the account? --ST47Talk 10:51, 22 May 2007 (UTC) I've just opened a BRFA, lets hope that goes well :) Extranet is now E talk 20:24, 22 May 2007 (UTC) So where exactly do you need to run this bot? Where does the username and password come in? Extranet is now E talk 09:46, 25 May 2007 (UTC) Which username and password? The bot's? That goes in the bot in a line under $editor=new Perlwikipedia;, it should say $editor->login('USER', 'PASS'); You run the bot on the toolserver, you activate it through SSH. --ST47Talk 10:27, 25 May 2007 (UTC) So is the Perlwikipedia automatically found or is that an extra part? Extranet is now E talk 10:31, 25 May 2007 (UTC) It will look for it on its own, but you need to put it in the same directory as the bot, which will be /home/e or /home/extranet, depending on your login name. The file should be named Perlwikipedia.pm - the capital P is important - and you can get it from Perlwikipedia.pm on googlecode. --ST47Talk 10:35, 25 May 2007 (UTC) Could you possibly add that to the source code? And also check my few edits there as I have added some extras, revert them if they will cause any conflicts. Kind regards, Extranet is now E talk 10:41, 25 May 2007 (UTC) Nope, that's all good. I've added the login stuff. --ST47Talk 10:46, 25 May 2007 (UTC) Now just to wait for both the toolserver account and the bot approval to go through. Hopefully thats not too long away. I also downloaded PuTTY and PuTTYgen and made my public and private SSH key for the toolserver. Anyway, I am off for now. Thanks again, Extranet is now E talk 10:51, 25 May 2007 (UTC) Signpost updated for May 21st, 2007. The Wikipedia Signpost Weekly Delivery Volume 3, Issue 21 21 May 2007 About the Signpost Corporate editing lands in Dutch media Spoiler warnings may be tweaked WikiWorld comic: "Disruptive technology" News and notes: LGBT project mention, milestones Features and admins The Report on Lengthy Litigation Home  |  Archives  |  Newsroom  |  Tip Line  |  Single-Page View Shortcut : WP:POST You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot 05:38, 22 May 2007 (UTC) IRC cloak request I am ST47 on freenode and I would like the cloak wikipedia/ST47 Thanks. ----ST47Talk 01:24, 23 May 2007 (UTC) Bot Approvals Question In your comments on the RBSpamAnalyzerBot request you imply that bots which only edit their own user pages do not require approval, is this true? I can't seem to get clarification anywhere. PeteMarsh 10:49, 26 May 2007 (UTC) Usually not, I sometimes run statistical scripts that edit my userspace, however not at 20 epm. 20 epm is rather high, so whoever actually approves you should bring that down to 10 or 15, and of course as an unflagged bot can't edit faster than 2 epm, due to RC issues. --ST47Talk 11:28, 26 May 2007 (UTC) Well, the way I was planning to design my bot would be one, maybe two edits per run as a maximum, since it can simply generate the entire page then update my user-sub page with it all at once. Extra edits would just be for changing extra pages. If this ok then I think it should be mentioned on the bots policy page. PeteMarsh 12:40, 26 May 2007 (UTC) Message from User:ST47/Now Special:Contributions/24.0.77.225 User:AccReqBot seems to have got logged out somehow and is editing as an IP. --ais523 14:47, 26 May 2007 (UTC) Thanks, I'll look. --ST47Talk 15:26, 26 May 2007 (UTC) Probably a bad connection, it should work next time it runs. --ST47Talk 15:29, 26 May 2007 (UTC) WelcomeBot Hey ST47. If I remember right, you once coded a denied welcome bot. Here, Ryan Postlethwaite made an excellent suggestion. If you did write the code, would you be able to add the thing Ryan mentioned in. Also, would you be able to allow the bot to run with a duplicate bot if one went down?, like the AIV helperbots do. I would be happy to submit the request and run the bot. (it may actually get approved :) ) --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 23:26, 26 May 2007 (UTC) Replied at WP:BOTREQ. --ST47Talk 23:36, 26 May 2007 (UTC) I'm thinking of starting the bot request soon (I'll wait to post). Just to be clear. Users can list their sigs to be used, new users are logged from the IRC channel, only users that have edited are warned, and it will not use welcome if the user talk page exist. --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 01:06, 27 May 2007 (UTC) -only users that have edited are warned, |+only users that have edited are welcomed, | :) --ST47Talk 01:11, 27 May 2007 (UTC) And the users who submit sigs would need to be approved by the operator, and I haven't even written the part that sends the welcomes yet, or registered the account... --ST47Talk 01:12, 27 May 2007 (UTC) Ok. That's fine. I'm guessing I'd be the operator. (And I mentioned on the other page that it would probably be good to make the bot be able to run along side itself, like the AIV helperbots do, so backups could be run. --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 01:16, 27 May 2007 (UTC) And I'm always able to host a backup if required on the toolserv. Extranet is now E talk 01:27, 27 May 2007 (UTC) R: Excellent - I see no problem with backups, however it'd be a waste to have two running, can I have the specs of the box you plan on running from? RAM, CPU, distro, internet connection speed, just so we don't zap your poor computer. --ST47Talk 01:30, 27 May 2007 (UTC) E: No problem with a toolserv backup, as long as you only start it if the main goes down. I created the account to avoid a bad situation, I can send you the password once it's approved. --ST47Talk 01:33, 27 May 2007 (UTC) Yep, no problem. I will only start it if one of you two give us a yell either by a message or email. E talk 01:38, 27 May 2007 (UTC) I doubt it will do anything with my computer :). Windows Vista, 2 GB of RAM, 2.?? core 2 duo processor. 80 GB hard drive. And wouldn't you be sending me the password? --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 01:40, 27 May 2007 (UTC) The main account's password will go to you R, and the backup's one to me. I will only run mine when there is a serious error or another problem. E talk 01:43, 27 May 2007 (UTC) R: Do you have a linux box? And yes, I meant to tell you that I'd send you the pass. --ST47Talk 01:46, 27 May 2007 (UTC) No. Do I need linux? :( --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 02:00, 27 May 2007 (UTC) Running this sort of thing on windows is horribly annoying to do, and rarely works, there are a few dependencies that won't work on windows. --ST47Talk 02:02, 27 May 2007 (UTC) I don't care about the annoyingness, but if it rarely works...:(. I cou ld try anyway. I have a lot of time this weekend to play with it. Oh...and I've started to write a request for the bot here. --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 02:05, 27 May 2007 (UTC) Well, let's try the first part. You'll need one of the precompiled perl binaries, POE, and POE::Component::IRC, and the code is at User:ST47/WB1. --ST47Talk 02:15, 27 May 2007 (UTC) By one, which one do you mean? I seem to have found a POE download here. I'm guessing thats the one you mean. And the IRC one I'm guessing is the first one here. So, I guess that only other thing I need is the exact perl binary (Where do I get that from?). --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 02:21, 27 May 2007 (UTC) You found the right things, but if you get them that way, you will miss the dependencies, once you install perl, use the cpan utility. As for perl itself, you can probably get it from here. --ST47Talk 02:27, 27 May 2007 (UTC) Wouldn't you need ActivePerl? E talk 02:33, 27 May 2007 (UTC) That's what I thought E. You actually edit conflicted me about that: I went to the binaries one, selected active perl, and got this. Which version do I want, and which package? --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 02:35, 27 May 2007 (UTC) For a Windows computer, select Windows (x64) and make sure its MSI. That should work fine. E talk 02:37, 27 May 2007 (UTC) I don't have an AMD processor, so my computer won't let me run it. Should I use the older version listed in the other column. --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 02:42, 27 May 2007 (UTC) Oops, wrong one. I said x64, use the one above (x86), direct link to correct download. E talk 02:47, 27 May 2007 (UTC) That would make sense considering x64=32 bit. I should slap myself :) --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 02:49, 27 May 2007 (UTC) Hey, it looks funny when you look at the past few contibutors of this page. Check the history. :) --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 02:52, 27 May 2007 (UTC) R, E, R, E, R, E, etc is pretty hilarious. Back on topic now, E talk 02:55, 27 May 2007 (UTC) Active Perl downloaded. Should I download WinZip to extract the other things st47 told me to download? And in what directory should I put them? --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 02:58, 27 May 2007 (UTC) I don't know, you'll have to talk to ST47 about that. In regards to the BRFA, I have changed a few things. I am pretty sure we are going from #en.wikipedia to look for the certain line of a new user: <rc> Special:Log/newusers create * ACCOUNTNAME * New user account and then placing {{WelcomeMenu}} there. I'm off now to the movies, so I'll be back later. E talk 03:11, 27 May 2007 (UTC) E: correct, however the names are going to be stored in a buffer for a while, just to see what they're up to. R: Can you run perl -V, just to make sure you have the right version? If that works, open the cpan utility and get POE, POE::Component::IRC, WWW::Mechanize, HTML::Entities, URI::Escape, and Carp. Then, take the code I linked to and run it. --ST47Talk 11:28, 27 May 2007 (UTC) OK, here we go. It runs on Linux. I can guarantee it runs on Linux. I run Linux, and my tests work. Toolserv runs Linux. R runs Windows. ST47 doesn't use windows, and can't guarantee that it won't go welcoming the Main Page and Jimbo Wales 30 times a second on Windows. The operator has access to the code. ST47 can fix the code. ST47 wrote the code, and it's ST47's job to fix the code. Now, whoever runs this needs at least enough experience with a computer to install Linux, otherwise a) it may not work, and b) if there's a problem, you haven't near the experience needed to fix it and get it up as soon as possible. I'd much rather, at the very least, this run on Toolserv, and at best, that I have primary access to it. As for the bot itself, the username-catching algorithm works, the welcoming section is about to be written and tested. --ST47Talk 12:33, 27 May 2007 (UTC) Typing the command you told me didn't work. However, I do have active perl downloaded. I guess I'll just give up on it per the above message by you. (By the way, I'm not sure they run exactly the same, but HighInBC once had me run one of the AIV Helperbots using Perl, and it worked fine on Windows). --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 13:19, 27 May 2007 (UTC) The AIV things probably don't use the same framework as this. You said that running perl -V doesn't work? have you actually installed activeperl, or just downloaded it as you say? --ST47Talk 13:45, 27 May 2007 (UTC) Oops. I did say downloaded, but I meant installed. I have it installed, but the command doesn't work. But now that I think of it, might linux commands be different then Windows commands? --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 20:04, 27 May 2007 (UTC) Yes, but perl is perl... --ST47Talk 20:27, 27 May 2007 (UTC) In Windows, it should be in a command prompt window. E talk 20:38, 27 May 2007 (UTC) I found the problem. Last night, I installed it in one place, then moved it to another. I thought moving everything wouldn't cause a problem, but it did. After moving it back, and running the command, a command prompt came up, and then exited a few seconds later. --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 20:39, 27 May 2007 (UTC) I used the CPAN utility to get POE and POE::Component::IRC. It put it in the bundles folder that's in the CPAN folder. Does it stay there, or does it have to be moved? Also, that subpage with the code, where does that go? And is there anything else I need to get? Also, how come in BAGBot's table, it says I'm a member of BAG? Sorry for all the questions :) --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 21:01, 27 May 2007 (UTC) Yes, it's in the right place. The code, which I changed, can go anywhere you want. You need to take User:ST47/PW and put it in the same place as the code. And I fixed BAGBot. --ST47Talk 22:51, 27 May 2007 (UTC) How do I create the files to put both codes in? --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 23:07, 27 May 2007 (UTC) There's this nice little program called notepad that lets you edit stuff...*rollseyes* --ST47Talk 23:24, 27 May 2007 (UTC) I was thinking that :). When I was copying and pasting, the numbers don't copy, so should I be taking it from editing mode, or should the numbers not be there? And should I set the notepad documents to open in perl? --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 23:34, 27 May 2007 (UTC) What numbers? Copy and paste from edit mode, obviously, but you don't need to associate the filename, just call them from the command line. --ST47Talk 00:01, 28 May 2007 (UTC) Everythings done!. The numbers were the #'s, which mediawiki converts to numbers. --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 00:06, 28 May 2007 (UTC) And...does it work? --ST47Talk 00:14, 28 May 2007 (UTC) Okay, when running the command perl [filename], for /PW I get: C:\Perl\site\bin>perl Bot Can't locate WWW/Mechanize.pm in @INC (@INC conta ib .) at Bot line 4. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at Bot line 4. For /WB1 I get: C:\Perl\site\bin>perl Bot2 Can't locate POE.pm in @INC (@INC contains: C:/Perl/ ot2 line 3. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at Bot2 line 3. --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 00:32, 28 May 2007 (UTC) You don't RUN the MODULE, it's a CLASS for god's sake! Perlwikipedia should be named Perlwikipedia.pm and placed in either the working directory OR the @INC. The bot should, for the sake of my sanity, be .pl, and you need another module, WWW::Mechanize. --ST47Talk 00:35, 28 May 2007 (UTC) And perlwikipedia is where? And I already have WWW:Mechanize, yet I'm still getting the error. --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 00:43, 28 May 2007 (UTC) Then you did it wrong. Where/how did you get WWW::Mechanize? Perlwikipedia is the file that says package Perlwikipedia; at the top. --ST47Talk 00:46, 28 May 2007 (UTC) I got it by running cpan. Then typing get WWW:Mechanize . It then got it. --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 00:48, 28 May 2007 (UTC) Then you didn't get it. Get means DOWNLOAD. CPAN's help says Download, Test, Make, Install... get download clean make clean make make (implies get) look open subshell in dist directory test make test (implies make) readme display these README files install make install (implies test) perldoc display POD documentation --ST47Talk 00:51, 28 May 2007 (UTC) Okay. Now, after hitting enter for the first one, it just goes to the next command line. I'm guessing that's good. For the second one, it says I'm missing POE:Component:IRC. I was looking at it when I tried to install and saw this is why: Running make install make test had returned bad status, won't install without force Failed during this command: BINGOS/POE-Component-IRC-5.30.tar.gz  : make_test NO --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 01:05, 28 May 2007 (UTC) Ok, that's what I was afraid would happen. I get the same error on my windows laptop, and I can't get around it. --ST47Talk 01:11, 28 May 2007 (UTC) Then I guess we've tried everything possible :(. Thanks for all your time. If you need anything, just ask. --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 01:19, 28 May 2007 (UTC) Perhaps get a toolserv account and try that? Next update is on Saturday. E talk 06:02, 28 May 2007 (UTC) How exactly does toolserver work? (ie. installing programs, putting the code in). And E, do you mean by next update is on Saturday, the the long list of people waiting for an account will be approved? --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 14:13, 28 May 2007 (UTC) No. If you can't figure out how to install Perl without this long thread, there is no way you can successfully use toolserv. --ST47Talk 14:27, 28 May 2007 (UTC) perlwikipedia Greetings. I left a question for you at User talk:Shadow1/perlwikipedia. All the best, – Quadell (talk) (random) 10:42, 27 May 2007 (UTC) Hi again. Thanks for all your help so far. I'm still not getting it to work though: details are at User talk:Shadow1/perlwikipedia#More tech support. If you could look it over, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks, – Quadell (talk) (random) 14:28, 28 May 2007 (UTC) Replied, but I don't know what that means. --ST47Talk 14:34, 28 May 2007 (UTC) Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/$bot $botn Hello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/$bot $botn, by another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/$bot $botn is a test page. To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait before possibly deleting Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/$bot $botn, please affix the template {{hangon}} to the page, and put a note on its talk page. This bot is only informing you of the nomination for speedy deletion, it did not nominate Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/$bot $botn itself. Feel free to leave a message on the bot operator's talk page if you have any questions about this or any problems with this bot. Thanks. --Android Mouse Bot 2 12:18, 27 May 2007 (UTC) EBot and EBot2 Do you still think I should run these two bots? Many people seem to be questioning at the BRFA that you made the code, you should run it. I'm starting to get to the point of stopping the toolserver request and BRFAs until I'm ready with everything, including real life as I am tirelessly busy at this point in time... E talk 10:11, 28 May 2007 (UTC) Do you want to run them? I want the two bots running, I don't care how or where. If DaB approves you, run it on toolserver. If not, I'll do another BRFA and run it. --ST47Talk 12:14, 28 May 2007 (UTC) If I do get declined the toolserv, could you still run them? They are a great resource to the community. E talk 20:22, 28 May 2007 (UTC) User talk:Jamesmusik Your comments were right on the verge of personal attack. Posting profanity like that on the talk page of somebody you do not know is overly agressive and very near WP:NPA.—Gaff ταλκ 22:58, 28 May 2007 (UTC) ...--ST47Talk 23:04, 28 May 2007 (UTC) WP:RFBOT I've got a follow up on a bot you approved at Wikipedia talk:Bots/Requests for approval/MartinBotIV 2. Thanks, — xaosflux Talk 03:41, 29 May 2007 (UTC) Signpost updated for May 28th, 2007. The Wikipedia Signpost Weekly Delivery Volume 3, Issue 22 28 May 2007 About the Signpost Controversy over biographies compounded when leading participant blocked Norwegian Wikipedian, journalist dies at 59 WikiWorld comic: "Five-second rule" News and notes: Wikipedian dies, Alexa rank, Jimbo/Colbert, milestones Features and admins Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News The Report on Lengthy Litigation Home  |  Archives  |  Newsroom  |  Tip Line  |  Single-Page View Shortcut : WP:POST You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot 06:50, 29 May 2007 (UTC) user:Sumibot flooding WP user:Sumibot is making articles on Indian villages (especially of the state Andhra Pradesh) which have no notablity. Sad to see Wikipedia being flooded with so many unnotable articles on villages. The number of villages in India run in lakhs. You can't have an article on every village! And if approve the making of his articles then he should make articles of all the 28 states. Reported this to you as you approved it.--KnowledgeHegemony 11:28, 29 May 2007 (UTC) User_talk:Peterl says that the speedies were overruled, as all cities and villages are notable. --ST47Talk 18:00, 29 May 2007 (UTC) Non-free use disputed for Image:Annotated mp select halo.gif This file may be deleted. Thanks for uploading Image:Annotated mp select halo.gif. However, there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please read carefully the instructions at Wikipedia:Non-free content and then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies. If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted within a couple of days according to our Criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 20:12, 31 May 2007 (UTC) Bot request Psst. I know you're busy, but I wanted to let you know my bot's trial run was completed successfully. :) – Quadell (talk) (random) 14:28, 1 June 2007 (UTC) Thanks Thanks for approving my bot. I have one question: Now it's active, would it be possible to add a feature to it in the new bots section (because it's still there, and it hasn't got a bot flag yet), or would it have to go in the existing bots section. Thanks, User:Stwalkerbot and Stwalkerster talk review 21:25, 1 June 2007 (UTC) Yeah, add anything else you need, I haven't closed it yet because I wasn't sure. --ST47Talk 21:40, 1 June 2007 (UTC) I added some stuff earlier today. Thanks for not closing it earlier, but I can't think of anything else I want it to do apart from what I added, so after discussion it can be closed straight away (i.e. You don't need to keep it open again like you did earlier!) Thanks, Stwalkerster talk review 14:25, 2 June 2007 (UTC) I've replied. --ST47Talk 14:58, 2 June 2007 (UTC) Bots To be honest, I would prefer to have the coder operate the bot, at least in trials, and preferably fully time (ST47 has a toolserver account which he could use anyway). What is the reasoning for this strange set up? I'm especially uncomfortable with E's apparent lack of familiarity with programming, perl in particular, but this may be getting better since I last took a look. Martinp23 12:37, 2 June 2007 (UTC) Then maybe ST47 could host it for the trialling period then when it's error free, I'll be able to host it - but, the toolserver update has not yet taken place. E 22:59, 2 June 2007 (UTC) Is this alright with you? The bot discussion is getting many questions as to why I'm running the bot, and not yourself. E talk 23:02, 2 June 2007 (UTC) Yeah, sure. Would you like me to run it only for trials, or permanently? --ST47Talk 23:04, 2 June 2007 (UTC) Well, for trials at this point in time (for both bots). Does that mean trials can start immediately? If the toolserv request is denied, I'll ask you to host it permanently if that's OK. E talk 23:08, 2 June 2007 (UTC) Editor review I reviewed you. YechielMan 08:38, 3 June 2007 (UTC) Thanks for the heads up, I'll read it in a bit. --ST47Talk 10:57, 3 June 2007 (UTC) Signpost updated for June 4th, 2007. The Wikipedia Signpost Weekly Delivery Volume 3, Issue 23 4 June 2007 About the Signpost From the editor Sockpuppeting administrator desysopped, banned Admin restored after desysopping; dispute centers on suitability of certain biographies Controversial RFA suspended, results pending Dutch government provides freely licensed photos WikiWorld comic: "John Hodgman" News and notes: Another Wikipedian dies, brand survey, milestones Features and admins Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News The Report on Lengthy Litigation Home  |  Archives  |  Newsroom  |  Tip Line  |  Single-Page View Shortcut : WP:POST You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot 07:57, 5 June 2007 (UTC) Failed tagging as uncategorized ?? STBot made this edit [1] to tag the article as uncategorized, but .. no tag or category appears when viewing the article. Has something broken? Philip Trueman 18:58, 5 June 2007 (UTC) The ref tag isn't closed. --ST47Talk 19:04, 5 June 2007 (UTC) CheckUser Dom56! I added one more user, thanks. Wikidan829 20:42, 5 June 2007 (UTC) OK, thanks to you as well! --ST47Talk 20:40, 5 June 2007 (UTC) Oops didn't sign. To give you some background, this is the 3rd possible sockpuppet I ran into with this user, just this week! This is after I already had about 3-4 of them banned not too long ago. He just makes more, so an admin suggested I have a checkuser run on it. Wikidan829 20:42, 5 June 2007 (UTC) I'm going to move your request to Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Dom56!, as it's not an IP check, it's an actual checkuser. --ST47Talk 20:44, 5 June 2007 (UTC) Okay! Not sure what it is, just following orders :) Wikidan829 20:48, 5 June 2007 (UTC) Heh. Just keep an eye on that page for any updates. --ST47Talk 20:49, 5 June 2007 (UTC) RFCU Although I believe that this request was technically non-compliant, I didn't move it there because it just delays the process. The way it is now, the checkuser can decide whether it is close to compliant to process because my comments alert it as to the correct code. I also am very cautious about changing a request. The original author may have a specific reason for doing things. I tend to just make a brief note as a clerknote. Until very recently, code F required a link to the community ban discussion. However, this is sometimes hard for requestors to find because offenders are often blocked before a community ban discussion starts. So if you look under the offender's contribution list, you will have to search hard to find the ban discussion. Recently, it was changed to require only the block log, which is simple to find and link. Clerk Groove Dog seems to understand the code F requirements as I do. Disruptive socks and throwaway accounts do not require checkusers (per instructions box). Some of the requests are actually fit into those categories, though I tend to be diplomatic and don't say "look here, read the instructions, idiot. And stop bothering us". Since I've started clerk duties in May, I haven't received any complaints from checkusers saying that my work is bad. In the same time, there has been at least one checkuser (person who runs the searchs) commenting about another clerk's clerknote (which said something like "correct this right away or it will be deleted"). I think transparency is usually the best policy. To this end, I rarely change stuff. I just add a clerknote.VK35 20:23, 7 June 2007 (UTC) I don't mind about changing stuff or not doing so, I was just unsure as to the interpretation of that policy. Thanks for the reply! --ST47Talk 21:59, 7 June 2007 (UTC) My bot I put in a request for a new bot task here, and I'm so impatient it's ridiculous. :-) All my code's set up, and I'm just raring to try it out. Do you have a minute to look it over? I know it's finals week and all, but like I said, I'm just a chronically impatient person. Sorry! So what do you say? 00:42, 8 June 2007 (UTC) NP! Go ahead and do a trial. --ST47Talk 00:45, 8 June 2007 (UTC) EBot2 source code enquiry Hello there ST47! I was just looking over some cases at WP:SUSPSOCK and was wondering does the bot code also look for transclusions of {{sspa}}, not just {{SSPa}}? Some of the users there use it and was wondering as this might cause the bot some trouble. Regards, E talk 06:31, 7 June 2007 (UTC) Don't worry, that particular RegEx is case-insensitive :) that's what the i after the last / means. --ST47Talk 10:09, 7 June 2007 (UTC) EBot2 has just been approved for trials and I don't yet have the toolserv account... Pretty disappointing as they did mention the update for new accounts was going to be last weekend. E talk 03:15, 9 June 2007 (UTC) Seedbot BRFA Hey ST47, I just wanted drop by really quick to say thanks. Hope you have a great (and hopefully not too stressful) weekend. Good luck on your finals. Cheers Seed 2.0 11:58, 9 June 2007 (UTC) This bot is blocked Kidding, actually, but it's malfulctioning[2]. MaxSem 11:59, 9 June 2007 (UTC) Barnstar Hi; I would like to award you a barnstar! The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar I,Meldshal42; hereby award ST47 this barnstar for ridding Wikipedia of those disturbing "fake messages boxes". Also, I thank him for my moving my editor review. Congrats! Meldshal42 10:01, 12 June 2007 (UTC) Thanks! --ST47Talk 11:25, 12 June 2007 (UTC) EBot2 trials Do you want to hold the trials for the time being while waiting for my toolserv account? What would you need to start it up? If you need the username/password, I'll email it to you, and we will have to notify the WP:SUSPSOCK people to stop archiving them manually for the trials. Let me know what you need me to do, I'll be back on in the morning for just under one hour (I start work early on Wednesdays), hopefully you too so we can discuss through IRC. Thanks for your help. E talk 10:44, 12 June 2007 (UTC) Sure I can, I'd need the username and password (EN.WP.ST47@gmail.com) and we would have to notify both groups, and I can have someone approve a trial for the other bot. --ST47Talk 11:20, 12 June 2007 (UTC) Signpost updated for June 11th, 2007. The Wikipedia Signpost Weekly Delivery Volume 3, Issue 24 11 June 2007 About the Signpost From the editor Privacy report lists Wikipedia among best sites, but needing improvement Board candidacies open, elections planned WikiWorld comic: "Why did Mike the Headless Chicken cross the road?" 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Please reconsider how you add interwikis.—C.P. 21:32, 13 June 2007 (UTC) I've corrected a configuration error, I think I was working off of old notes from when I did it manually, I've removed the force and hint parameters. ST47 10:38, 14 June 2007 (UTC) Hi I want to request a Checkuser for IP:64.131.205.111...He was blocked already but he seemed to come back again with another sock puppet called User:BoriquaStar..Could You Please Help Me Out???i dont know how this process works!EdwinCasadoBaez 23:44, 14 June 2007 (UTC) Don't worry, it's up, see [3]. ST47 00:21, 15 June 2007 (UTC) My Helpme request Thanks for the swift reply. Taemyr 00:56, 15 June 2007 (UTC) Bad interwikis 2 Your Bot made bad interlinks. ja:-24 to ja:-3, ja:1/4 and ja:1/10 are number. ja:1-9 is a song.Dada124C41+ 13:54, 15 June 2007 (UTC) I thought I had corrected all of those, as I mentioned, I had screwed up the configuration, I thought I fixed all the bot's edits. I shall go through the first few again. ST47 14:02, 15 June 2007 (UTC) Corrected, and I am going to run it on those pages again manually. ST47 14:06, 15 June 2007 (UTC) And I can't find any entry points for any of those articles. ST47 14:12, 15 June 2007 (UTC) 1.1 SanchiTachi Sorry if I'm showing my ignorance, but because the above user already had confirmed Sockpuppets I was under the impression I should not add him to the "Requests for Checkuser" page - I was just following the instructions (badly!) from "requests for checkuser/Case/SanchiTachi". User:Darkson (Yabba Dabba Doo!) 15:11, 17 June 2007 (UTC) Hi! Yeah, it used to be that we add it to /Pending, but we decided a few days ago to change it, not all requests go to WP:RFCU. Thanks for the request, and keep an eye on it, incase we need anything, ST47 15:13, 17 June 2007 (UTC) CBS Records The CBS Records in the United States was founded in 2006 and has nothing to do with the CBS Records in Japanese which is defunct and is now Columbia Records. Please change the CBS Records article in Japanese to Columbia Records (American company). Steelbeard1 14:39, 18 June 2007 (UTC) Fixed, but next time you have a problem, read this first, so that you make sense. ST47 14:42, 18 June 2007 (UTC) Saves that links for the mor...err people who report bugs to him* :) Wikidan829 14:48, 18 June 2007 (UTC) Enjoy :) ST47 14:51, 18 June 2007 (UTC) Redirect Just to let you know, the bot added a WikiProject banner to a redirect's talk page.[4] I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but I thought I would let you know. -- Ned Scott 03:53, 19 June 2007 (UTC) Fixed. I didn't actually check each page, since that would take too long and too much bandwidth, I just check if it exists based on a red or blue link from the talk page. The redirect probably shouldn't have been categorized, I've corrected it. --ST47Talk 12:25, 19 June 2007 (UTC) Signpost updated for June 18th, 2007. The Wikipedia Signpost Weekly Delivery Volume 3, Issue 25 18 June 2007 About the Signpost From the editor Wikipedia critic's article merged Board election series: Election information Admin account apparently compromised, blocked Controversial RfA withdrawn, bureaucrats fail to clarify consensus WikiWorld comic: "They Might Be Giants" Features and admins Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News The Report on Lengthy Litigation Home  |  Archives  |  Newsroom  |  Tip Line  |  Single-Page View Shortcut : WP:POST You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot 09:11, 19 June 2007 (UTC) SmeiraBot I have been doing corrections of links to the Volapük Wikipedia with this bot; here is one of the latest changes, and here is another one. What should I do next to get a bot flag? --Smeira 11:06, 19 June 2007 (UTC) (P.S.: I didn't see at first the 15-20 changes limit; I think I've done more than that.) Well, you should register a bot account so you aren't editing from an IP, then go to WP:BRFA and follow those instructions and either myself or someone else will look at your sample edits and give you the flag. --ST47Talk 12:27, 19 June 2007 (UTC) I already have registed a bot account -- it's SmeiraBot. It already is in my user-config.py file; the bot should be logging in on Wikipedia as SmeiraBot. Hasn't that happened? I gather it hasn't, judging by what you've said; should I dc something other than adding a 'usernames['wikipedia']['en'] = u'SmeiraBot' line to my user-config.py file? --Smeira 20:24, 19 June 2007 (UTC) You need to do a 'python login.py -all', but usually it asks for a password if it tries to edit, and those two links you gave me are both anonymous. --ST47Talk 20:48, 19 June 2007 (UTC) User:STBotD and Ingria Hi, please configure your bot so that it won't add the same links repeatedly in cases where human editors are removing them. Your bot (and others, unfortunately) are effectively revert-warring on Ingria. There is a consensus among editors of that page that a certain link, to the highly contentious "ru-sib" wikipedia, is not wanted. See meta:Proposals for closing projects/Closure of Siberian Wikipedia for background. Thank you, Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:32, 20 June 2007 (UTC) Noted. I can't imagine why the bot would do the same page more than once, it certainly isn't supposed to. I probably started it at the same point more than once during trials. There is a {{nobots}} template, I think. --ST47Talk 11:14, 20 June 2007 (UTC) Gahhh! it did it again! Please make it run with "-nolink ru-sib" or whatever that parameter is called. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:42, 21 June 2007 (UTC) I've added the template for you ;) --ST47Talk 15:51, 21 June 2007 (UTC) Ah right, thanks. Let's hope the bots will obey your commandment. (I couldn't find if this was actually implemented in pywikipedia.) Of course it would be better if we could just ban this one bot action on the article, and not lose all the rest of potentially useful bot work with it... Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:11, 21 June 2007 (UTC) Gaaaaahhhh! Again! [5]. Please do "-neverlink ru-sib", the nobots tag doesn't seem to do the trick. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:26, 23 June 2007 (UTC) Grr...Done. Why does it keep running on that page... --ST47Talk 11:24, 23 June 2007 (UTC) Interwiki problem Hi, the bot messed up interwiki links in fi:Harri. There's article on no -wiki which is on same name (no:Harry) which causes problems. I went on and fixed all Harry -pages. --Harriv 06:51, 20 June 2007 (UTC) OK. The problem is that the bot checks to see what the other wikis are linking to, and in this case, there was a link somewhere to the bad pages. --ST47Talk 11:20, 20 June 2007 (UTC) Hello Hello, did I do this right: [6] It still hasnt shown up on the Requests for Check user page.Hajji Piruz 16:35, 20 June 2007 (UTC) NP, Fixed :) --ST47Talk 16:37, 20 June 2007 (UTC) STBot Your bot STBot has now botstatus at DE. -- sk 10:08, 21 June 2007 (UTC) Thanks! --ST47Talk 11:14, 21 June 2007 (UTC) But it has logged off on en:, and was blocked. MaxSem 09:41, 22 June 2007 (UTC) I don't get why it does that. Fixed. --ST47Talk 12:08, 22 June 2007 (UTC) Or not?[7] MaxSem 12:21, 22 June 2007 (UTC) Gah. --ST47Talk 12:24, 22 June 2007 (UTC) m:User:ST47 Since your user page doesn't say you have a page on meta wiki, lack of authentification proof, the endorsement submitted by that account will be removed. Just for your information. --Aphaia 04:27, 22 June 2007 (UTC) Request Hi ST! I currently own SpebiBot, which substitutes {{unsigned}} and vandalism warnings on talk pages and archives. It doesn't seem like a very complicated task, and I would code it myself, but I am completely clueless when it comes to coding in Python. Would you be able to help me out? I'm not asking you to completely code the bot yourself (although that would be useful :P kidding), I'm asking for your assistance to help me code the bot myself. If you have any concerns with the whole idea of the bot, reply on my talk page. Your help will be greatly appreciated! :) –Sebi ~ 11:25, 22 June 2007 (UTC) Unfortunately, I don't know a word of python. For help, you might want to try WP:BOTREQ or WP:BON? --ST47Talk 12:30, 22 June 2007 (UTC) Please rerun WatchlistBot for Louisville again (and Kentucky too) Hi. It appears the WatchlistBot owner is still on break. This is no rush, but if you could run the bot for both WikiProject Louisville and WikiProject Kentucky, I would appreciate it immensely. Cheers! Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 17:19, 23 June 2007 (UTC) BAG reporting bot Your bot that reports on current BRFA's appears to be down. There has been no edits to User:ST47/BAG since yesterday morning. Could you please investigate this? E talk 02:38, 24 June 2007 (UTC) It's back up now :) --ST47Talk 11:08, 24 June 2007 (UTC) Checkuser Hi, I recently created a checkuser case but its not showing up on the main page. I don't know if I did something wrong or perhaps skipped a step or two. Can you take a look please [8]. Thanks VartanM 03:18, 24 June 2007 (UTC) I've added it to the list for you, thanks! --ST47Talk 11:06, 24 June 2007 (UTC) AccReqBot The number of useless edits, relative to useful ones, made by your bot is very high. Is it really necessary to have a bot which makes around 10 useful edits per day posting 96 useless ones as well? I don't even see the need for that page at all – you're the one who runs the bot, surely if it stops working you can tell this without having to look at a wiki page, and it's not much use to anyone else since in the event of a problem there's nothing they can do about it – Gurch 11:55, 24 June 2007 (UTC) SVG-format drawings of the .338 and .300 Lapua Magnum cartridge cases I welcome your work on transforming .300 Lapua Magnum.jpg and .338 Lapua Magnum.jpg cartridge dimensional line-drawings from jpg-format to svg-format. Sadly the L, S, E, e, R and f measurements have not been clearly defined in your svg-drawings. The absent measurements defining arrows are important to engineers and gunsmiths, since they define important safety related dimensions! Text sometimes overwrites lines of the SVG-format line-drawings, making things less clear then it should be. I reverted the articles to the original CIP conform jpg-drawings to keep things clear and safe. If you want to correct the svg-drawings to conform to CIP standards please go forward. Francis Flinch 17:29, 24 June 2007 (UTC) My comment requested? Dear ST47, there was no link in your message, only an empty [[]]. Was it on the bot request page that my comment was requested? I'll go there have a look. --Smeira 17:36, 24 June 2007 (UTC) P.S.: I've just been there, and I see that a BAG member has asked for comments, but I don't see exactly where to go, I couldn't find a direct link there. Where should I go? --Smeira 17:51, 24 June 2007 (UTC) It's at [9]. --ST47Talk 18:08, 24 June 2007 (UTC) RFA? I remember doing an editor review a few weeks ago, and you said you might want to become an admin after final exams, and I said you should have no trouble sailing through RFA. Exams are finished in most of North America (I don't know where you live), so if you'd like to go ahead, I'd be happy to send you along with a nomination. YechielMan 22:29, 24 June 2007 (UTC) I was just telling ST47 a few weeks ago that I was surprised when I found out he wasn't an admin. Wikidan829 22:35, 24 June 2007 (UTC) (edit conflict on my own talk page)I hate to keep saying this to everyone, but not now. Give me at least two more weeks, I'll be gone to and back from vacation and editing in full force. I'll drop you a message when I get back, and thanks for the offer :) --ST47Talk 22:37, 24 June 2007 (UTC) Signpost updated for June 25th, 2007. 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I didn't even do anything to you. --ST47Talk 19:57, 27 June 2007 (UTC) editing my comments? dear st47, the page is protected so i cannot edit it myself, but you edited my irc text? it started: <oscar> i'll be quick <oscar> yo all :-) can you please restore this at least? also i think it is a pity you left out dmcdvit's comments in between, breaking up the real-time flow-feeling of an irc log, but that is perhaps cosmetics ;-) thx for posting and organizing the log into an easier to read version though! best regards, oscar 20:52, 27 June 2007 (UTC) Hi Oscar! Well, I meant to make it have more of a discussion feel than a log feel. I'm not an admin either, but I'll ask one to do it. Thanks for posting, --ST47Talk 21:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC) thank you for helping me out :-) greetz, oscar 22:04, 27 June 2007 (UTC) Vacation Wishing you a safe and happy vacation. We'll all be waiting back here for you to return all refreshed and ready to tackle your jobs as BAG member and an IRC channel operator. Hope you have a great time. E talk 21:52, 27 June 2007 (UTC) Thanks! --ST47Talk 20:39, 28 June 2007 (UTC) Looks like you are heading off now. See you when you get back! E talk 01:00, 29 June 2007 (UTC) STBot at w:es Hi ST47, your bot at Spanish Wikipedia, es:w:Usuario:STBot, has been approved. Yrithinnd 10:23, 29 June 2007 (UTC) Thank you! --ST47Talk 22:13, 7 July 2007 (UTC) Additions, sources and censorship Well, it seems that the addition making news everywhere these days is the one about Chris Benoit, and the death of his wife in particular, that was reported in the form of an addition, apparently without a reliable source, from an annonymous author. I cited DIRECT QUOTES from Ebay ITSELF in the last version of my additon, and you censored it. This is further proof of your hypocricy, and selective censoring. Yes, yes, you will defend this, with seemingly logical reasons, as one thing I have learned is that no matter how wrong someone may be there is always something more they can say anyway. You Wiki-cult types are hypocrites, plain and simple. Abacene You seem to be talking about two things - I am not involved in Chris Benoit, and I don't know what you mean there. As for the EBay revert, I do recall a revert I made: The edit was, as I recall, regarding sellers abusing feedback. I don't think that the sources cited were clear enough to support the claim, and the claim itself had point of view issues. If you give me a diff, I'd be glad to review the edit? Thanks, --ST47Talk 22:20, 7 July 2007 (UTC) pt.wikipedia Trial Approved, please keep it to 50 edits, and no more then 2/3 per min Rei-artur 10:09, 1 July 2007 (UTC) Thank you! --ST47Talk 22:17, 7 July 2007 (UTC) My recent RfB Thank you so much for your participation in my recent RfB. 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If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BetacommandBot 01:53, 4 July 2007 (UTC) Re: Revert on WT:CSD Yeah, I'm not sure how that happened. Sorry about that. (ESkog)(Talk) 22:58, 4 July 2007 (UTC) Don't worry about it, it was probably some weird editconflict thing. --ST47Talk 22:22, 7 July 2007 (UTC) New month at WP:ACC Hi. FYI, I created Wikipedia:Request an account/July 2007. I noticed your bot is not writing to that page so I figured I was supposed to let you know. (Apparently no one noticed that the page was missing.) —Wknight94 (talk) 03:21, 8 July 2007 (UTC) Whoops! The bot will start using the new page now. Thanks for letting be know, or it would have been June for the rest of eternity! --ST47Talk 13:15, 8 July 2007 (UTC) Apparently it doesn't notice what the date is? I see someone else manually added the "June 2", "June 3", "June 4", ... headings and they only made it to the 5th. Now the bot is writing everything under July 1. —Wknight94 (talk) 13:37, 8 July 2007 (UTC) It expects the heading to be there. I don't know why, it knows the date. I'll add a little thing to fix that. --ST47Talk 13:42, 8 July 2007 (UTC) Quick BRFA-related favor Hey ST47, could you do me a favor and take a look at my BRFA? It's been sitting there for two weeks now and it's pretty standard, run-of-the-mill bot stuff. Thanks & cheers, S up? 12:45, 8 July 2007 (UTC) There you go! Sorry for the delay. --ST47Talk 13:23, 8 July 2007 (UTC) Great. Thank you very much. Hope you have a great Sunday. :) --S up? 13:25, 8 July 2007 (UTC) Aztec theatre Dear ST47 I've post my article by clicking on the link you've made in your comments http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_on_the_River How can I make sure it will upload the pictures as well ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Charou Thank you very much for your help Kind regards Charou PS: sorry this is my first posting on Wikipedia. Your help is very much appreciated. Hello , I created a text on the Aztec theatre (Aztec On The River) last week and I don´t see it in wikipedia yet. Did I do something wrong or is it a normal timing for a text to be published ? Here's the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Charou Thank you very much for your help Kind regards Charou 16:22, 9 July 2007 (UTC)charou You'll need to post it somewhere, a page with a descriptive title, such as Aztec on the River. --ST47Talk 16:25, 9 July 2007 (UTC) Read WP:CREATE for more help. --ST47Talk 16:26, 9 July 2007 (UTC) Done, but I can't seem to find the image of the theater, are you sure you uploaded it? --ST47Talk 17:41, 9 July 2007 (UTC) Thank you ! I re-uploaded the Aztec theatre picture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Aztec_On_The_River_-_Theater.jpg One last question: when will this article be on line ? Txs Have a great day. Charou 18:04, 9 July 2007 (UTC)charou The article was online as soon as your created it! :) --ST47Talk 18:12, 9 July 2007 (UTC) but when i type aztec on the river in the wikipedia search the text does not appear ... Charou 19:03, 9 July 2007 (UTC). 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