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Rebecca Bardoux

I recommend you bring those sources to the Reliable Sources noticeboard and ask if they are considered reliable for sourcing information about someone's comedy career. That will put this whole thing to rest. They're either good or they aren't. Kindzmarauli (talk) 13:52, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Good advice, I'm trying to come up with wording and an approach that makes sense. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 15:43, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

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The report is at WP:AN3#User:Scalhotrod reported by User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (Result: ). Scalhotrod, can you reply to the question raised in the 3RR report? Where did you find 'high production values' in the source? If you not quoting but paraphrasing can you indicate what statements in the source led you to your conclusion? Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 13:36, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

I just became aware of this, I'll take a look now. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 16:08, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Waiting for your reply at the noticeboard. Wifione ^Message 17:23, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Yep, I'm in the middle of drafting it right now. Should be up soon... :) --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 17:26, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

@Wifione I'm starting my work day and will be away. If there is anything that requires a response, I will do so as soon as I can when I return to my computer. Regards, --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 18:04, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

September 2014

It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on a biased choice of users' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Pornography#Belle_Knox.2C_revisited. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Thank you. Spartaz ^Humbug! 18:42, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi Spartaz, actually I was just inviting people to have a conversation about a subject that they were previously interested in. For the record, I posted it once, so I'm not sure where the accusation of "indiscriminately cross-posted" derives from. I then used User notification template {{U|User:name}} to do the actual notification. Was that an improper use of the template? --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 19:01, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

obviously, I do think its a problem if you only invite people predisposed to keep an article to a discussion about whether you should create it. otherwise I wouldn't have cried fowl. 19:35, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Well, I suppose that's one way to look at it. Another, more along the lines of Assuming Good Faith, is simply that I contacted people who would be likely to participate in re-creating an article that would pass GNG and PORNBIO the second time around. IMO you seem to be perceiving a problem where there is none. Or at the very least, you're jumping to conclusions about a multi-step process that has barely started. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 02:37, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks Green Cardamom --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 15:37, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

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A few days ago you removed a quote from WP:NPA. I unintentionally reverted it while reverting a block of edits by another user (and then get distracted by a dispute, so I never got round to checking whether your edit should be restored). Sorry about that, and please feel free to remove the quote again. Personally I fully agree that it doesn't belong (though I haven't yet read the full discussion so I might later change my mind, but in any case it's not something I feel strongly about). Unfortunately since I accidentally restored the quote another user has added in references, etc, so he may not be too happy about you removing them. I'm also going to leave a copy of this in the discussion on the NPA Talk page. Once again my apologies. Tlhslobus (talk) 20:29, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Having thought about it more I decided that I did feel strongly about it after all, and that it should definitely go, so I've deleted it myself, giving reasons in Talk.Tlhslobus (talk) 21:19, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi Tlhslobus, no worries. It was my impression from the Talk page discussion that it was inappropriate for any kind of quote to be displayed on a Policy page, NPA or otherwise, as it involves and/or invites far too much interpretation. Not all of which is necessarily positive or productive. I made matters worse with my unfortunate timing by removing the quote whilst Lightbreather was making edits that apparently triggered her paranoid tendencies (see above). --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 23:43, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Scalhotrod, I was just getting ready to start a discussion with Tlhslobus on his talk page when I found your comment above. Will you please redact the "that apparently triggered..." portion of your last sentence? I have asked you repeatedly to keep your comments on content, not contributor. Please stop already. (As I usually offer, if you redact that, I'll remove this request.) Lightbreather (talk) 15:48, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

I'm staying out of this row between the two of you, but, Lightbreather, if you want to discuss the edit on my Talk page, please feel free to do so 'nicely' (to use the word used about such discussions on the top of your own user page, if I remember right), though I can't guarantee that I won't feel obliged at some stage to bring the discussion back on to the NPA Talk page, where such discussions normally belong (although, for all I know, this may well be an exception). And by the way, I thanked you for the anchors, but I forgot to thank you for helping make the article better through your other efforts as well (as I think that linking 'justification' to our existing policy makes the article better, and would not have happened without all your efforts over these last days), so thanks for that too.Tlhslobus (talk) 16:29, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Not to be unkind, T. - I appreciate thank-yous - but did you see my original reply to you about anchors?[1] I'm really not sure whether the way you used that [2] is how it's meant to be used. I'm not being critical - I'm saying I honestly don't know. You might want to start an "Anchors" discussion at Help talk:Link. Lightbreather (talk) 16:54, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

I've checked. I remembered right, which makes that twice in less than a week. Maybe I'm not just yet quite as far gone into terminal senility as I normally fear :) Tlhslobus (talk) 16:40, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

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What happened to your self-imposed interaction ban? Removing the Eleanor Roosevelt quote[3] - which Drmies restored less than two months ago[4] - from the NPA article, which I'm in the middle of working on, is adding to the stalked feeling I have gotten from you before. Would you mind - please? Lightbreather (talk) 19:13, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

I did not know that Drmies restored it, I was simply going by the discussion on the Talk page. I have nothing to say about your "feelings" as I have no control over them. By the way, I like your edits to the page. I think clarification is always a good thing. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 19:18, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

• Ah, I love getting a seat at the table when you two are having tea and crumpets. That page brings out the best in people: I hope you noticed that I had to warn User:Drmies for edit-warring. Anyway, Scalhotrod, I do not believe it is wise on your part to get cozy with Lightbreather. As for the quote, that talk page discussion could do with more participation, but given the doubts about provenance I suppose removal may well be warranted. But a nestor of Wikipedia courtesy (not to mention a graceful dancer) has commented there as well, so if only for formality's sake I'll @Cullen328:. Thank you both, Drmies (talk) 20:40, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

• My expressed concern was about the provenance of the quote. Someone else had concerns about the substance, more specifically its appropriateness on that page. Discussion of those matters is welcomed. As for interaction between the two editors in question, I sincerely doubt that anything good would come of it. But I am sometimes quite wrong. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:53, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Folks, before things get out of hand (which is the tendency in matters related to LB and myself), until her posting here there was no interaction between LB and myself regarding the NPA page. The page is on my Watchlist and I noticed some changes. When I visited the page I saw the quote and it was my understanding that via Talk page discussion that it was better to not have any quote, Roosevelt attributed or not, on a Wikipedia Policy page. The closest thing that came to "interaction" was me clicking the "Thank you" link on one of LBs edits, so if THAT is the basis for her feeling uneasy about my presence, I promise to never do it again. My apology for what I consider a fairly minor attempt at being cordial. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 15:36, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

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regarding Wolverine edit

Please read the NYT article. 216.120.170.5 (talk) 22:29, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Fair enough, but its still not the full story. The recommendation was forced via a lawsuit by brought by the Center for Biological Diversity and Defenders of Wildlife versus the efforts and analysis of federal Fish and Wildlife Service. Plus, unless you're trying to make some kind of statement about "global warming" (which you shouldn't WP:SOAPBOX), its better to just use the phrase "climate change" than a controversial topic like global warming. But if you want to defend the edit, I'll leave that battle to you. I was just reviewing an edit on a page with Pending Changes. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 23:03, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

The IP, although not in any of the same range as those listed in User:Arthur Rubin/IP list, is undoubtedly the same blocked editor. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 23:48, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

I have no dog in this fight. I disapproved an edit because at face value is seemed purposely controversial, but the source does say what the IP claims. Then again, I posted my concerns on the talk page and also made some what I consider fairly neutral edits to the article. Given the lawsuit and invoking the phrase "global warming" just seems like mucking up an article that really shouldn't be affected by such things. Just my 2 cents... :) --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 23:53, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

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Belle Knox

I don't know if you saw but the Belle Knox article was relisted at DRV. Gaijin42 (talk) 15:30, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I'm sure there's ample info to discuss this time. I'm going to try to stay off the radar for a while and work on some articles I've been meaning to write. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 17:42, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

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Chuck Lavine

Why did you just undo edits that removed inappropriate BLP material and fixed formatting issues?

Note that just because something is properly sourced, it doesn't mean it's correct to include it. In this context the article implied a correlation between a campaign donation and a piece of legislation, even though there's no evidence such a correlation exists. It used unencyclopedic language like "generous." Please stop reflexively reverting needed changes.

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If that is your intention, please provide better edit summaries. If the summary does not match the edit, it can be interpreted as vandalism or some other attempt at POV editing. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 17:52, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

I'll work on that. I'm going to revert the paragraph- it is genuinely better this way, though if you actually read it and disagree feel free to let me know why. Not looking to start a fight here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.72.162.96 (talk) 17:58, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Since you're vested in this article, I'll trust that you know what you're doing. Now that I've reviewed a few of the references and see how empty or irrelevant they are, I'll leave it to you to correct the rest. Please just keep it neutral, balanced, and properly sourced. Regards, --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 18:01, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

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Got it, thanks. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 15:59, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

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Please start your own section on the ARBCOM evidence page. You are not supposed to edit other users' sections in any way, even to reply to them. See the infobox at the top of the evidence page. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 17:15, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

I am not submitting new evidence nor am I responding to or rebutting the Editor that presented the evidence in the section. I am bringing to the attention of the arbiters that the way the evidence is presented is misleading. It's bad enough that I was dragged into this mess without notice or without direct involvement. I read the top of the page and my edit is within the guidelines since I am not party to it. Furthermore, I made my objection on Talk page first and it was explained that the evidence should not be modified. Hence my objection to how the evidence was presented. If the arbiters have a problem with it, they will make the appropriate changes. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 17:32, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

There are rules on where you are supposed to respond to evidence, and those rules require you to respond in your own section. Please revert yourself before a clerk does it for you.Two kinds of pork^Makin'_Bacon 18:18, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

If it was improper to make the comment that I made, then I will wait for a clerk to inform me of such or make the change themselves. I am not responding to the Editor's evidence nor am I refuting it. And I do not have any new information to present.

Furthermore, since the posting Editor has quit Wikipedia, asking them to retract or clarify the entry is not an option either. The way it has been presented is a gross misrepresentation of the actual chain of events and amounts to a personal attack in my opinion. But given the circumstances, I have no other recourse. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 16:39, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Timeline of Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant events

Thanks for not accepting these edits. Such nonsense makes WP look bad. I'm glad I asked for Pending Revision protection.~Technophant (talk) 21:02, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Once I saw the misappropriated source, it was a fairly easy revision. I have no stake in the content one way or another, it simply came up on the Pending Changes edit list that I make the effort to clear whenever I can. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 21:05, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

I would like to know why you didn't accept this edit of mine: "*1 October: the town of Taza Kharmatho is retaken by Peshmerga and Iraqi Army forces, but remains uninhabitable due to booby traps left by ISIL.". It was sourced, and if that is not a reliable source, then half of what is on that page doesn't have a reliable source. I was not the author of all the other nonsense edits. It seems to me that you refused all the additions caught in the review period without checking each one, and that's pretty irritating.--2.35.58.16 (talk) 21:34, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

References

I just accepted the edit you resubmitted. It was caught up in a change of unsourced edits that the WP system bundled together. The best way to prevent this in the future is to register an account and login when making your edits. Thank you for your contributions. Regards, --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 21:36, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you.--2.35.58.16 (talk) 21:39, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

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I didn't see too much before 13 October so I probably wouldn't have gone for much longer. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 07:22, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

If you do need to list it again ping me at the time and I'll get to it. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 00:54, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

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It is part of the admin package and not a separate thing. Sorry. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 22:22, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

It's unfortunate and I'm not sure why that can't be unbundled. You could try ask at WP:VP. Frankly given the way that WP:RfA can be these days I'm not sure I would want to apply. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 22:46, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

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Interesting comments in there. The problem really is that while becoming an admin was "no big deal". I was here just over 4 months and had 4,000 edits, but getting rid of a problem one was much harder. That in turn led to passing RfA becoming much more difficult. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 19:59, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Can't say I blame you. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 20:07, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

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Andrew Cuomo reverts

Not sure why you reverted my copyediting changes. You yourself are a member of GOCE, you know that we want to move away from one-sentence paragraphs among other things.--Aichik (talk) 20:04, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

@ Aichik, Sorry about that, the non-Admin rollback feature sometimes bundles various edits together. I went back and re-added some of them, but on occasion its hard to tell what belongs to whom. Again, my apologies. --SCalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 01:50, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

No prob, after staring at it for awhile it's clear that's what happened. Thanks for getting back.--Aichik (talk) 17:13, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

@ Aichik, no worries. By the way, subsequently when I saw another of your edits come up for review, I accepted it right away. I'm not sure what triggers the bundling of edits in WP:Rollback, but if there's more "harm" than "good" done in a batch, I tend to revert under the assumption that well intentioned Editors will inevitably correct the situation. As is the case in this situation... :) Best regards, --SCalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 18:53, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

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Sorry for the text removal, it was the result of an edit conflict and then there were further edits before I could restore it. Artw (talk) 19:29, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

No worries at all, it happens when there is an intense discussion on the Board. Turns out I was posting the in the wrong place, but another User pointed me in the right direction. Regards, --SCalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 19:33, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

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Did you read the source? "There the plant was first cultivated, in Arusi and Ilta-Gallas home of the Galla warriors" Benjamin Storm (talk)

When I see content change, but not the source associated with it, there is usually more to the situation than just a simple edit. There has been quite a bit of contention regarding this particular "fact" in the article and the use of a single source to substantiate it is a violation of WP:UNDUE and potentially WP:NPOV. If one claim cannot be firmly established, then all of the claims must be presented in their proper context. --SCalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 19:24, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

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Read the Piers Morgan Transcript for Yourself

Turner's own words were "I lost my fortune, most of it. Got a million or two left.".[6] I will not deny I made some typos and edited them, but the truth about his fortune needs to known. The Forbes report is inaccurate.184.97.194.191 (talk) 23:38, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Don't be ridiculous or try to convince me that anyone would be that naive in reading that transcript. The same source, CNN, has a recent update and his net worth listed at $2.2 Billion[7]. --SCalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 23:49, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Have you read the source I cited? The words came from Turner himself during the Piers Morgan episode. The article you cited sources the Forbes article as well. It's no wonder why Wikipedia is dying off.[8]184.97.194.191 (talk) 23:55, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

And without video you have no way of knowing the tone or context of the statement. He was likely joking with Morgan and grinning the whole time in playful banter. You've been warned by others for your disruptive behavior. If you want to spread garbage information, start your own blog, but leave it off of Wikipedia. --SCalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 23:58, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

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I am still keeping the sources, just condensing all of them into one general reference at the top of the air date column. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Television/FAQ#Verifiability for more information. They're unnecessary because if you want to know what happens in an episode, then . Dcbanners (talk) 13:04, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Dcbanners, The policy you are citing DOES NOT apply for the crew credits such as Director or Writers, each episode has unique information and needs to be cited individually. If you have removed it again, I'm reporting you to 3RR again. And your viewpoint of JUST WATCH The EPISODE does not excuse your removal of sources from a template that is specifically setup for it nor does it help the project once the show goes off the air. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 17:26, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

I have tried to talk to you, but threatening people with blocks instead of talking to them won't help. Dcbanners (talk) 17:58, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

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You realize that with 10 reversions of sources and the vandalism of a template from the Project you keep citing as policy when its nothing more than a guideline makes your above comment reportable as an act of retaliation or intimidation. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 17:59, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Why don't we just forget about this and move on. Dcbanners (talk) 18:00, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

I think the report at 3RR is fairly explanatory. You could always revert yourself to mitigate the situation. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 18:11, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

What about we reach a consensus. Merge all of the sources into the "Directed by" and "Written by" column. We can do one reference containing all of them. I also requested page protection so we have time to reach an agreement. Dcbanners (talk) 18:13, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Please discuss it on the article Talk page, not here. Its unfortunate that it took being reported multiple times before you became willing to discuss the situation. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 18:18, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

I put the sources into the "Directed by" and "Written by" columns because they're only needed for the people. The rest can be seen through watching the episode. Dcbanners (talk) 18:20, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

high water mark listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect ''high water mark''. Since you had some involvement with the 'high water mark' redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Steel1943 (talk) 06:03, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Steel1943, I don't see it listed. I'm not sure what the issue is at hand. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 17:57, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, the section redirect isn't working since the nomination is enclosed in "collapsed" templates. The redirect is included in the "357 redirects" nomination at the bottom of the page. Steel1943 (talk) 18:01, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

OK, I see it listed, but what's the actual problem with it? It's just a straightforward redirect to correct a syntax issue. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 18:07, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

The issue, I see, is the unintentional activation of Wiki markup due to starting with two apostrophes that sometimes "bleeds" into other part of a page if used in a template. Title issues can usually be resolved by placing a {{DISPLAYTITLE}} magic word on the target page; it allows the title to appear as it is typed in this "template", customizable with italics, bolding, and/or capitalization. Steel1943 (talk) 18:13, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

So there's a "more correct" way to do redirects than #redirect [[target article/section]]? I don't see any quotes in the "high water mark" redirect. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 18:17, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Well, sort of. Putting wiki markup in the actual title of anything, whether it be a redirect or an actual article, can cause technical issues when linked. Also, there are not any quotes/quotation marks in the nominated redirect's title; there are two instances of two consecutive apostrophes (which activates and deactivated the italics via wiki markup; ('') vs (").) If the redirect's title had quotation marks instead of two consecutive apostrophes, it would not have the concern I stated in the nomination since quotation marks do not cause wiki markup to activate. Steel1943 (talk) 18:28, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Ohhh... now I get it. So if I just move that redirect to one without quotes and tag the old one for deletion, we're good? Right? --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 19:24, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Scratch that, not needed. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 19:26, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

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Religion of Prabhakaran.

You reverted my edit. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Velupillai_Prabhakaran&oldid=635496918

I would like you to read :- http://idsa.in/idsacomments/AnappraisalofNorwaysRoleinSriLanka_hdayaratne_030211.html

Further , your full Wikipedia article is not full of references.Each para would then have had references ,although I do not refute the reference ideology of Wikipedia. Just because my reference included a blog ,you should not have trashed it.I am not reverting your edit.After all Wikipedia is an objective knowledge bank.If you discard an important piece of information ,it is the loss of Wikipedia and its readers.

A political person's life, religion, ideology , affects all latter developments of his area of functioning, and it is absolutely essential to tell the truth - maybe being strained out of 10 different sources.Also that his ideology which sought to protect!Who ? You protect Tamils.How ? Who finances and gives you weapons ? So the group has to bow to the ideology of its supporters.No matter what it might think of them.One should see the net result.It was protection of Tamils and guarding the coastline ! I included the blog because it had references.What is the security situation today after death of Prabhakaran ? Both in Sri Lanka and India ? http://www.srilankaguardian.org/2009/07/tamil-hindu-reflections-on-tamil.html http://www.dlib.pdn.ac.lk/archive/bitstream/123456789/2740/1/J.R.%20Rodd%20Vol.%20XXXI%20No.1%262%202005.pdf Mamta Jagdish Dhody (talk) 18:25, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

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Thank you very much for your help, I feel it is important to include information such as the extremely common criticism or controversy of a figure if it's one of the main points about them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thuaeg3 (talk • contribs) 01:00, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

@Thuaeg3, it's actually just one minor viewpoint, but there are so few citable sources about Greenberg that its worth noting. Your original wording was fairly biased and non-neutral and did not accurately reflect what was said by a non-notable blogger. Personally I think the observations made by the blogger are kind of creepy and he is riding the coattails of her notoriety for his own gain. Thank you for your contributions. Please sign your comments using "~~~~" in the future. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 04:36, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

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I am sure that you as an American knows better than me on the subject of a British personality. I shall defer to your greater knowledge. -- 212.50.167.15 (talk) 17:38, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

From the perspective of just an average Wikipedia reader, your edit made no sense. Your justification, being the limited readership of the article, was baseless. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 17:41, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Why should "an average Wikipedia reader" matter?! No, absolutely not! The man is British, full stop! Most people who know Peter Hitchens are British. He is NOT a global personality by any stretch at all. Most people who look up at his name are indeed also British. Everyone British and educated know that Malta used to be a British colony until the 1960s; in the same way that most Americans who are educated know that Puerto Rico is a United States Territory. Why do you have to be so insulting by indirectly implying that the British people are somehow more uneducated?! -- 212.50.167.15 (talk) 18:08, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

That is who the entire site is for, the Average Reader. As Editors, we don't guess at nor can we predict who the audience is for any article. Your assertion is baseless and damaging to the purpose of the site. Furthermore, I am not making any kind of implication, indirect or otherwise. Any perceived problem lies entirely in your imagination, but unfortunately for you Wikipedia policy does not cover that. Regards, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 18:15, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

So every single article now has to be written in the perspective of an ignorant Yank (I am not saying that you are one, but I am more than happy to take your statement!), who can't tell that London and Madrid are miles apart, and written as if most people who are going to read the article are also ignorant Yanks?! Whatever happened to "use British English"?! If you are actually serious and are not just being obtuse or facetious, then there is definitely something wrong with you! -- 212.50.167.15 (talk) 18:45, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

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Tiffany Alvord

Hello again! I see that you have special rights on the Tiffany Alvord article. A few moments ago I noticed what seems to be a good-faith edit to include the fact that she is a Mormon, but without a source. I checked briefly on Google, and the only source I found that might be acceptable is this tweet from her. I do think it qualifies per WP:SELFSOURCE, but I don't know how relevant that information is for her article. I have noticed the religious views of other musicians stated in their Wikipedia articles, but perhaps the context is different. Please let me know what you think (please ping me like before). Thanks in advance! Dontreader (talk) 01:49, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Hey Dontreader, I don't see it now. Problem solved already? --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 16:25, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi Scalhotrod, I was referring to this pending edit which was reverted. I agree with what Asdklf wrote in the edit summary, although I don't care if that information is included or not. Probably, the way I see it now, it's best not to include it since Alvord stated her religion in a tweet as a reply to someone. Unlike the Piano Guys and Lindsey Stirling, for example, she has not openly embraced her religion in interviews, etc. Also, I think being the penultimate sibling makes her the second youngest, not the second oldest, right? Thanks again. Dontreader (talk) 18:53, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Religion is one of those subjects that needs to be referenced in a seemingly ironclad manner. It just creates the possibility of contention otherwise. And yes, penultimate would make her the second youngest. Thank you for the correction, I had to look that one up. I'm usually not in favor of dumbing down an article, that seemed a bit much. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 19:23, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your insights. I think the only way to mention her religion is if she discusses it at some point in a reliable source.

I knew the meaning of the word "penultimate" the first time I saw it, back in 2011, because I spent decades in a Spanish-speaking country, where the word "penúltimo" is very commonly used, and has the same meaning. :) I appreciate your response. Have a nice day! Dontreader (talk) 20:12, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Link building

Hnancy (talk) 05:36, 3 December 2014 (UTC)I wonder why you delete my edit of black seo building strategy that I try to explain the conflicts.I am doing this for a class project and hope you can give my some advice.

Any statement needs to have a source attributed to it like anything else on Wikipedia. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 05:39, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

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A comment or question about my edits would have been appreciated. I think this was a bit excessive. I apologize for not understanding your concerns at the time and undoing your edits. I just thought it was a misunderstanding that could be resolved with edit history messages. Anyway hope we can work this out. Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:05, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Geraldo Perez, And I apologize for the misunderstanding as well. I went to your page to remove the warning, but saw that you had done it already. Again, sorry for the confusion that resulted. It was well meaning and based on previous experience. Best regards and Happy Holidays, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 18:13, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

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Can I please ask why you accepted this edit to Tanya Branning? The whole reason that the page is on pending changes protection is because IPs keep adding that she is returning, however no source is provided and Google does not support that she is returning. If you look in the page history, you will see that the same IP made a similar edit yesterday which was correctly reverted and the IP's talk page and contributions suggest that they have a history of making these types of unsubstantiated edits.

Please be more careful in the future and if you're unsure, leave the pending revision for another editor to look over--5 albert square (talk) 17:00, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

5 albert square - Ah, you are correct and my apologies for adding to the mess. I should have disapproved it for being Unsourced per WP:CRYSTAL. Thank you for correcting it. By the way, you should check the contributions for that IP, they are making changes across several articles. That edit was nearly identical to another Pending change that came up. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 17:06, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

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I saw some recent edits to William Shockley under your user name, apparently part of a GOCE cleanup. What I have found when I have done GOCE cleanups is that if an article has a lot of messy language, but relies heavily on specific sources, it's nearly impossible to clean up the language without looking at the sources. Do you have the cited sources at hand now? (I do.) I reverted the edits per WP:BRD and invited discussion on the article talk page. See you on the wiki. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 13:00, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi WeijiBaikeBianji, I'm not sure I understand the basis for your concern. I was simply cleaning up bad grammar and overly wordy phrasing. I also changed a few adjectives and adverbs to reduce what I considered the level of hyperbole a bit, but nothing that changed the context of the content. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 17:29, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Should I take that to be a statement that you had none of the three key books about Shockley at hand as you began editing the page? The page has a talk page notice that mentions it is subject to discretionary sanctions from a 2010 ArbCom case, stressing the importance of good sources, and all the sources are mentioned on the article talk page too. I have all of those sources and other sources on Shockley at hand, which is what I had in mind as I reverted per WP:BRD. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 20:57, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

No, you should take it to mean what I am stating. Nothing of what I edited was substantive, I saw the warning and stayed within the recommendations. If the content is incorrect, it stayed incorrect, albeit with better grammar and syntax. If you are in possession of "all of those sources and other sources on Shockley", then please "fix" the article. I'm happy to revisit it again to make the same kind of checks and edits I have already. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 02:18, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

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Hi Scalhotrod,

I can't help but notice that you've reverted Vehicle registration plates of Pennsylvania to the "last stable version before WP:EDITWAR and content disputes".

That is, the version as of 01:44 on May 31 - some five months before Meldar667's edits, and six before mine.

So... what happens next?

Regards, Bluebird207 (talk) 13:46, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

After ALPCA's last edit, I was considering another AN at the 3RR board, but decided that it was unnecessary exacerbation. After my reversion, I intended to notify the other editors who had made edits since with the intention of inspiring collaboration to correct the article, but I was distracted by WP:IRL things and signed off my computer for the evening. What are your thoughts on the situation? It appears that ALPCA still has not communicated or shared their thoughts on the matter. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 20:57, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Well, in fact, ALPCA has just gone and undone your edit.

Which means, of course, that he's restored the edits that me and Meldar667 made - the very same edits he disagreed with and kept undoing...

Is it possible that he's suddenly realized the errors of his ways, and has decided to atone for them? 'Cause he's also left his talk page alone, having previously blanked it after taking the things posted on it by you, Shirt58 and Weegeerunner to be threats rather than advice...

Regards, Bluebird207 (talk) 21:18, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Well, I think we need Admin intervention at this point, but as for a Noticeboard such as 3RR, I am unsure as to how to present this. ALPCA seems to generally be disruptive towards several editors as well as non-communicative after multiple attempts. I'll ping an Admin and see if they are willing to take a look. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 21:35, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

I notice that ALPCA has just been blocked indefinitely.

I actually think that's a bit harsh - but que sera sera.

Regards, Bluebird207 (talk) 22:09, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Yep, the Admin I pinged doesn't beat around the bush. Go forth and edit positively and productively! --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 22:20, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Recent Deepak Chopra edit

Can I please request that you comment on the talk page why you feel that mentioning how many books the author has published and how many are on the New York Times Best Sellers list is UNDUE... while cherry-picked criticisms of just a few specific ideas which the author has put out is not UNDUE? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.173.194.250 (talk) 00:39, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

I agree, so I did some editing of my own. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 01:48, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Sandy Hook Elementary shooting

In light of your edit summary regarding these 'See also' links, I looked through the talk page archives for postings regarding including/not-including Bath School disaster but didn't find any clear consensus. Would welcome further discussion about it here. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 01:23, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

There have been several different historical events discussed for the See also section, but the conversation still came back to the fact that the links provided include all of the previous events and preclude the need for any debate as to which one(s) is/are worthy of particular mention. In short, no one could agree which singular events should be listed so we included all of them using the list articles. My personal viewpoint is that no comparisons need to be made, all are horrific events, and as such the lists allow for readers to investigate other incidents and then draw their own conclusions. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 01:34, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

I was surprised when I realized that Bath School disaster had been deleted by name from the article but having the List articles in 'See also', instead of turning the section into a Wikilinkfarm, makes sense. I must have missed those discussion threads when I looked through the talk page archives. Shearonink (talk) 02:09, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

That whole discussion was such a mess, its easy to miss. So many threads and intersections of comments and issues. It was in the Lead for quite some time, but I think that it was removed simply because it happened so long ago and the comparison became contrived. Quick frankly, some of the "body count" discussions that have taken place in various Talk pages just outright disgust me, but I guess guidelines need to be established somehow. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 02:14, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Descent

Please do not remove my content in a simple talk page. As for your descent, you are the one who started it. Who needed to know that?!?! 212.178.230.159 (talk) 20:19, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

I removed it because of the potential threat you made in light of your WP:EDITWARring. Please do not re-add it or I will report it on the Administrators Noticeboard. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 20:22, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

And please do not remove my content from a simple talk page. 212.178.230.159 (talk) 20:23, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

I asked nicely, now I'm getting an Admin involved. If you self revert, I won't report you. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 20:25, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Grow up. 212.178.230.159 (talk) 20:26, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

I'll ask once more, if you self revert your comment, I will not report your conduct. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 20:27, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Or I can report you too for, again, removing my content from a talk page. 212.178.230.159 (talk) 20:29, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

I cited the relevant section of Policy WP:TALK for why I did it. I was trying to help settle a content dispute that you are involved in and as I stated, disclosed my background in relation to the subject matter. You then chose to make a comment about it, "No one cares about your descent but thank you for revealing it anyways, we will take that into consideration too." Granted, you were expressing your opinion, but it could have just as easily been left out. Making personal comments about other editors is generally seen as a offensive gesture and does little to gain you support for any stance you have. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 20:34, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

What are you, 14, to be offended and sensitive all the time? If you want to remove my comment do so, but remove you Bosnian/Croatian heriatge too. 212.178.230.159 (talk) 20:37, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Your continued attacks are not helping your case. If you wish to remove my comment about my heritage, I give you permission to do so as long as you remove your comment. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 20:42, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Don't flatter yourself, I'm not attacking anyone. And you have my permission to remove both comments. ;) 212.178.230.159 (talk) 20:45, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Your attitude does not help either. I am in the middle of drafting the complaint. You have my permission to remove my comment along with yours or you can just self revert your comment and the issue will be over. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 20:49, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Do it yourself, I'm busy right now. 212.178.230.159 (talk) 20:53, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 20:56, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

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The Voice (U.S. TV series)

Why do you keep posting March as the premiere of season 8, when it's supposed to be February?

http://www.nbc.com/the-voice

I have not posted anything to this article, I simply reviewed the edit when it came up on the Special:PendingChanges list. If an edit is formatted properly and sourced, I usually approve it. Please sign your posts. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 17:07, 19 December 2014 (UTC)