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oh yes please. at the moment i'm pretty much lost so any help would be much appreciated. thanks AMIRITE 08:25, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that. It'll help me get used to talk and discussion me thinks. AMIRITE 09:30, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually we share a lot of common interests!! i was looking through your user page and its odd how many of your (templates? info boxes?) rectangles-with-words-and-a-picture i'll be copying. I'll probably be updating my page for the rest of the day. and bugging you for help and tips so thanks in advance for your help and patience. AMIRITE 10:12, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

well acting is a bit of a strong word for what i do. i try occasionally but i'm not very good. much better at the technical or production side of things. but acting is good for a laugh now and then. AMIRITE 10:58, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Easier said than done. Well for me anyway. I've been to Claire once. Stayed in Doolin for a little while. its a nice place.

right. i'm at a loss as to how to put in userboxes. well i know how the work i just need to find a list of them. for instance i can't find where the code for the native level of english box is. AMIRITE 12:29, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Ah Ha. Found it. Cheers. AMIRITE 13:10, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

howdy. i've just run into a bit of trouble, well more like confusion really with this page, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Skunk_Fu%21_characters.jpg i'm not sure how an image made available for free download stands in the licensing options. AMIRITE 08:58, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

So... wadaya think?...

...about this feller Darren Curtis Skanson. I smell self-promo... and lilely some bigtime copyvio from a personal website too. Thoughts? 156.34.142.110 14:45, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Ehile I have your attention... and if someone else has't done it already... could you rv this. Its a prot page so I can't touch it. 156.34.142.110 17:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting dinglenut's Twinkle violation. Editors shouldn't be allowed access the tools unless they prove they know how to use them. That's why I always liked VP... it's moderated... you have to apply to use it... you're judged on your edit history... and it can be taken away if you F**k around with it. Have a nice day! 156.34.142.110 14:59, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Lifted music

just to let you know that the page is up now, thanks for all your help :). Still have to sort out the logo since i had a message from a bot, but it should be ok. cheers, take it easy!!Nurow 19:13, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

John C. McGinley

Thanks, yup, I love him in Scrubs, he is great. michfan2123 02:43, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Another 'self-promo' for your amusement

Check out this little flowing of flax and fluff. Very "look at me, look at me" 156.34.221.91 14:12, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

You are certainly fast!!! I barely had time to go get a coffee! I acutally discovered that one by A) Looking at Virtuosoone of the words that is used as a cruft adjective WAY too much on Wiki and then B)click on the "what links here" left hand link.... you will be whisked away to AfD and Speedy D heaven :D . Crufters, never beens and never will be's LOVE to label themselves as virtuosos. And that word links to over 400 pages. Some are legit subjects that just need to have the word virtuoso deleted from their article... since 99% of the time it's unreferenced and being used as an adjective. BUT... many of Wiki's virtuosos are absolute NN material and the virtuoso link makes it easy to find them. I have lots of experience finding these hacks... in fact... you could say I am a virtuoso at it :D 156.34.221.91 14:38, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

RfAs

Hello. I've seen you participate several times in RfAs where your comments have been "Oppose per X. Sorry". These are really not constructive comments. Maybe you should make up some original comments and suggestions about how the candidate can improve and ultimately become an admin and help out more around here. This would greatly help the user and Wikipedia in general. Happy editing! Regards, Agüeybaná 22:34, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

No thank you :-) I shall continue to Oppose and Support RfA's anyway I wish. It is completely up to users how they support or oppose an RfA. Some user's don't even leave comments, are you going to suggest to them to be more constructive too? Allow me to explain, by the time I reach an RfA the points that I want to make have already been made and it saves me a lot of time rather than just repeating something. So, thank you very much for your helpful suggestion, friend :-) - But, no. Scarian^Talk 22:45, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

"Are you going to suggest to them to be more constructive too?" Yes. "By the time I reach an RfA the points that I want to make have already been made and it saves me a lot of time rather than just repeating something." I understand that you've never gone through an RfA, but let me tell you that it is a really unpleasant experience, even it is successful. Piling on nonconstructive opposes does not help the candidate in any way. But, whatev. --Agüeybaná 22:50, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Buddy, I understand how frustrating it must be and I am sorry. Look - I'll compromise, next time I Support or Oppose an RfA I'll write my own reason, alright? But you gotta take notice that people get offended if you tell them what to do. Even if you smile sweetly and be all nice about it, people are still going to irritated if you tell them how to support or oppose an RfA. Take care and good luck with your RfA, friend. Scarian^Talk 22:59, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

It's not my fault that people can't take good-faith suggestions nicely and must always be offended by every single comment made about them. --Agüeybaná 23:00, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

No! Of course I understood and recognised it to be in good faith... but... I was just telling you something about psychology. People simply get annoyed if you tell them what to do, especially if it's something they've written. People tend to take what they've written and care for it like a child (We've all had brush in's with editor's on Wikipedia ;-). So you just gotta be extra careful in the future when you go and tell people to be more constructive with Opposes or Support's or whatever. Okay? Are we cool now, friend? Scarian^Talk 23:04, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Sure, thanks :-) Guess that's just how seriously screwed our society is. --Agüeybaná 23:07, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

ha! thanks :)

Thanks for removing the vandal's warning -- I could've sworn I'd done that, but it must've just slipped the mind. I blame the nature of vandal-fighting for my absentmindedness. ;o) Ashdog137 23:50, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Hey, this is Drow Elf. I'd like to thank you for correcting me on my American/English spelling. I can spot commonly misspelled words pretty well, but I guess it just didn't occur to me that people in England would be editing Wikipedia too. Stupid me. Anyway, I think I corrected the word "encyclopedia" from its British spelling somewhere on this site. I need to try and fix that. Thanks again! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drow Elf (talk • contribs) 13:13, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Keep your eyeballs peeled

for fanboy crufting like this tripe that's been bombed in twise on the Def Leppard article. Check out the edit summary the first time it was dropped.... total fanboy/fannyboy(whichever :D) crufting. Almost as bad as inclusionists :D . 156.34.142.110 15:54, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

My recent RfA

I am sorry you felt it necessary to oppose my RfA, which did not succeed, at this time. I will attempt to make some more mainspace edits and get some more experience before my next RfA, which will be in two month's time. I hope I will have satisfied your concerns by then, but if not, please comment as you feel you should. Thanks for participating in my RfA. -- Cobi^(t|c|b|cn) 07:37, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

LBi

Hi! I rejected the WP:CSD request because in its current state the article content does not appear to be blatant advertising under WP:CSD G11. It is a brief and relatively modest description of the company. The article asserts notability and the company appears to be of sufficient size and scope that it is not obviously non-notable. Speedy deletion is not the appropriate avenue in such cases, please use WP:AFD to determine if the article should be deleted. --Shirahadasha 03:18, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. I realize when you first saw the article it was pretty blatantly advertising for the company and the puffery part was cut down to size by another user. Perhaps that is a route that could be taken if an article on a potentially notable company contains puffery. You can also notify WP:ANI if you notice puffery being added by someone connected with the organization. Thanks for your efforts. Best, --Shirahadasha 16:29, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

One for your review

Tripped over this piece of glaring non-notability. Stuffed a prod on it. Perhaps a more stern fate should be administered. What are your thoughts? 156.34.219.214 17:16, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your input. Now... how 'bout this?. IT's early... it could just be that its VERY poor article quality makes it seems worse than it really is. 156.34.216.202 08:47, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

The article is a pile of dump. He is known but not that well known. This one has a bigger chance of being kicked off than that Eastern European band. I'd say you could PROD it and see what happens. An AfD would be a bit of a fight but still leaning towards deletion. Scarian^Talk 11:09, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

prodded. It'll likely get rm'd without any actual repair being done to the heap. Time will tell. 156.34.216.202 11:24, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Cradle of Filth

Not my caps - I merely quoted the instructions already on the page, a mere few words from where that edit was made (see [1]). --Stormie 00:49, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

NSW

I'll let you make that call. It doesn't matter what you do anyway; I'll be blamed for it. Edgar Bergen over there can't tell us apart! -- But|seriously|folks  09:47, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for eavesdropping Scarian but I just wanted to say the above comment is one of the funniest things I've read on here in the last few days :D . Which one's Charlie? 156.34.223.236 10:19, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

I know what you mean! I found it very funny too :-D haha Scarian^Talk 10:21, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Thought of the day Scarian

Ever notice(I believe I may have actually pointed this out to you before)... that the Wikipedia Metal Project is over-populated with d*nks. :D . After 400000+ edits you would think that I wouldn't get miffed by the idiots that try to edit here. But... there are the odd few who should get the banhammer. There... vented.... now back to "turn up the good and turn down the suck" :D . 156.34.238.220 23:20, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

I think I may have stumbled across a sockpuppet for 'uber-troll' User:Scipo. Take a look at the contributions of this "sous le pont" editor and compare. It's like when one doesn't get his own way the other makes the same edit. Ever do a RCU before? 156.34.238.220 23:27, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I'm not a puppet. And I don't care how many edits 156.34.238.220 has, he/ she was making unneccesary edits in abundance. As much I enjoy the title "idiot" and "d*nk" (w/e that is) it doesn't change the facts that this user's edits were supercillious. No consensus has been reached on the comma break vs. the line break issue, and I happen to think the line break looks cleaner. Not to mention, almost all metal band pages use the format of the line break between genres in the music infobox, unless you count nu metal, metalcore, or any -core bands. And let's face it real metal fans don't care about nu metal or any -core genres as they reek.Navnløs 23:35, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

WP:SOAP??? anyone. "Real metal fans"... It's always disappointing when someone edits this project based on their own personal opinions and not for what the project was designed for. When you come to Wikipedia... check your opinions at the door... thay have no place here... right Scarian. I, myself, hate Barney... despise him. I hate The Wiggles too. And I hate ABBA... ooo I hate ABBA!!!!. But... despite my personal feeling towwards these subjects... I have probably reverted over a thousand vandalism edits to these pages. Our personal POV editor has a lot to learn about what Wikipedia is all about. All newbie editors should be forced to go to WP:POL and learn every sub-page that stems from there. He vertainly doesn't know what WP:3RR is :D. I should dare hime to try and stick a flagicon on the Motorhead page :D . He would see the lightning rv and our good admin friend who owns that page :D . I've mentored many an editor on here. And I've pitchforked many an editor back under the bridge from whence they came :D . I am undecided as to what fate awaits a few newbs I've crossed in the last few days. Time will tell :D . Where's that confounded bridge! 156.34.238.220 23:51, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

I would love to learn how to do an RCU :-D I told the user that he should take up his concerns with you rather than bung all the shit on my talk page [Although you may bung shit on my talk page all you want :-D]. I'll have a quick look through the contribs of both users and if it's suspicious will you point out what to do next? Scarian^Talk 23:59, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Haha - saw what happened at the incident board. Nice!! haha - that made me laugh so much. So utterly futile. Scarian^Talk 00:04, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Upon further review I am leaning towards the idea that they are different editors who just haven't figured out the difference between an encyclopedia and a junior high book report. Scipo is definitely an "ignore the rules" editor who is here for his own purpose whilst the other gentleman has some tact and some "encyclopedic focus" to his contributions. I had to laugh at the "real metal fans" comment though. I've been a fan of heavy metal music(among many others) for almost 40 years... basically as long as there's been a heavy metal genre to be a fan of. When I think of the stereotyped "real metal fans" a mental picture of a snotty nosed, greasy haired, "shop class dropout" pops up. "Real metal fans" are the one's who read metal-archives.com without realising that it caters only to inbred idiots. I am sure Mr Navlos is not really one of those "level 4" stereotypes. He will, in the end, reveal himself to be a very benificial editor to the project as time goes by. Mr Scipo, on the other hand, seem to only be here for a single purpose. Time will tell. 156.34.214.123 00:16, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Alright - your call. I was just warming myself up by reading WP:RCU - the users did seem vaguely familiar though in their summaries, in my opinion that is. I'm here till late [early morning my time] if you need me for anything, friend. Take good care of yourself. Scarian^Talk 00:19, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

BTW, I see you've been accused of sockery yourself. Very nice! If you're going to be accused of being "meat" it's always nice when the other editor is noble... And Butseriouslyfolks is certainly that. I have always had respect for his editing. If you're goinf to be lumped in with anyone... he is certainly a decent one to get "put into the drawer" with :D . AND...on top of all that... you userpage went under a barrage of vandal attacks. That's even better. Back when I was a logged in editor, my userpage was vandalised over 100 times :D . I've always told all dedicated editors of this project... if your userpage get vandalised.... then you are definitely doing something right around here. Almost deserving of a barnstar for something like that I'd say. Not from my floater IP though. I will muster something up when I get back to my static IP. You've certainly been working hard and have earned one... if I do say-so myself... and I do. :) Have a nice day. 156.34.214.123 00:29, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Haha - that was, I think, the second or third time I've been called a "cunt" on Wikipedia. Lovely stuff! You always seem to drop me in it Libsey :-D Nathaniel Street-West - Remember that hunk of junk [I ask because I know you go through so much shit crap everyday!]? I put it up for AfD and BSF and I get accused of being one and the same :-D All thanks to you! Hehe. Oh, well I thank yee very much in advance for the barnstar! Take care, bud. Scarian^Talk 00:45, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

re: Iron Maiden

It was lost in this edit. I should have caught it long before this but I was still in NZ and suffering a bit of jet lag. Ahhh... but it's repaired now. Along with Saxon, Motorhead and Def Leppard(!), Iron Maiden are one of the key NWOBHM bands.... shame not to have that in the box. The talk page discussion supports the inclusion of it and heavy metal.. ONLY. Any other genres can be turfed(like progressive metal) because it was not part of the concensus. 156.34.214.123 01:34, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Roger you got it. I should've paid more attention. Damn me. Cheers! Scarian^Talk 01:36, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Flirtin' away!

Scarian! How great to hear from my favorite Englishman! How are things 'cross the pond? And, yup, I'm just a big flirt..heh... I've been having fun, lotsa great folks on the 'pedia! Mostly been fighting vandals and socks...some speedies... It's great! Drop by anytime, my friend! Dreadstar † 01:43, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Sox

I was thinking the same. (He's confusing me with a good editor? Cool!) I have dibs on the right sock, though. You'll have to play Mr. Sinister. -- But|seriously|folks  01:45, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

School

Thanks. I should have looked closer and got it all on the second go. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 01:46, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Names

Saw it after-the-fact. I sense a wave of "I.P. Freely" type names are going to be set up...all from the same editor. Unencyclopediots! There always lurking about. 156.34.214.123 01:53, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Ahhh, my old friend VandalProof. I always loved using that tool. Have they fixed the bug yet that places the warning on the talk page of the editor previous to the actual vandal? Bad glitch there. 156.34.214.123 02:09, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

RPP is listed. 156.34.214.123 02:52, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Rambo (video game), did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. Cmichael 02:57, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Hahahaha - Thank you. You've made my night. Scarian^Talk 02:58, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

VP doesn't always do it...just occasionally. It does it with the recent changes feed, also. Sorry for the hassle, but glad to entertain. Cheers. Cmichael 03:03, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Hey!

Lookin' for an easy AfD? Check out this piece of original research. All the refs are links to other Wiki pages. The article creator is one of those "Level 4's" we've discussed before. It's an easy pick. 156.34.208.166 03:06, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Done and tagged! :-D Scarian^Talk 12:10, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

PS Check out this conversation :D . Class must've been let out early :D . Looking for some easy... EASY AfD fodder. Check out the edit history of the young "core" squire in the other half of the convo :D . Sometimes... they're just too easy. 156.34.208.166 03:27, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Ha - that seemed just like one of those convo's we have when we're kids. "You're an idiot!" "No, you're an idiot!" I'll have a lookey! Scarian^Talk 12:10, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

PPS Need a template? Here's how the system works. The original AfD'er on that list was a user named Chubbles. I alerted him as to the repost of his AfD and its Speedy D tag. And to the possibility of starting a "sweeping list-fluff" wave of Wiki-cleanliness. Perhaps a new dawn of "listcruft-free" Wikidom is on the horizon. One could only hope. 156.34.208.166 03:39, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

To quote Darth Vader... It's all too easy :D . Sorry for the ranting... too many coffee and not enough long walks on the trail with the dogs. :D . 156.34.208.166 03:45, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

New Way Home

Hey, dude. I noticed that you deleted this page because they are a band without much significance, but so what? Wikipedia should not distinguish between popular and unpopular bands, but rather should host information about any that users want to write about. And besides, if you went through wikipedia deleting all of the pages about bands you think are not significant, that would remove half of Wikipedia's content...

...all right, perhaps a slight exaggeration. Watto the jazzman 09:11, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia does distinguish between Notable and non-notable bands though...

"...but rather should host information about any that users want to write about..." - You're taking up challenging Wikipedia's core policy with me? Go to the WP:Help desk if you want to challenge what Wikipedia is about. I'm afraid I can't help you with that one. Scarian^Talk 11:40, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for the new 'shiny'. It's much appreciated. 156.34.142.110 12:43, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Alright

First off, I apologize for writing on your talk page, I just did not know how else to talk to that user as he/ she was working without an account. I do appreciate that that user said some nice things above, though. I DO want to help wikipedia and I realize that I should leave opinions out of articles and trust me I understand that. That is why I avoid editing pages about subjects I do not like. I still believe the line break is better than the comma break and since no consensus has been arranged, I will continue to use the line break. Also =) I have used metal-archives on the rare occasion as it does have some useful information, and although I do not think the site is full of inbred idiots, I also see no reason to spend time on that site except to rarely look something up as they do have abundant information about discographies and the such.Navnløs 18:00, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Signshare

From here on out let me handle the Ja Rule page what are you a fag or something? beef is always used in hip hop termanology to describe a feud and you replace it with row and argument? you probably don't listen to rap at all and that makes it sound gay so stay in your place and watch what you say I am putting beef back in and you better not remove it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Signshare (talk • contribs) 20:28, 29 October 2007 (UTC) . If you like chess, why are you editing a page about rap music, it is not incorrect grammar, it is slang which is popular in hip hop it is not college English, BEEF IN HIP HOP means a feud a disagreement between two or more crews (set of people) you idiot, but I still wish the best for you and hope that you pass English, and indeed you should and I wish you the best in life. Signshare October 29, 2007.

• I have blocked User:Signshare for a week, for blatant and repeated incivility. --Kinu ^t/_c 22:21, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Anon page creation

Yes, it is indeed returning - aargh! Not sure how long you've been around, but anon IPs used to be able to create pages. It was turned off about two years ago. They are turning it back on, for a month's trial, from Nov 9th. See Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Anonymous_page_creation_will_be_reenabled_on_English_Wikipedia for the detail. Neil ☎ 13:30, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Worry not you must, only Star Wars referencing I am

I was just joking around as Kameejl said. I DO believe the line break is better than the comma break, but like I said, I was just havin' fun, no worries. Besides, there's not much I can do anyways, and I know it. At least until a consensus is reached people will edit the way they see fit in this issue. Navnløs 22:38, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

The same to you. Navnløs 22:41, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Take him under your wing Scarian

See This. Take him under your wing and teach him how to do it right. He needs a mentor. 156.34.228.22 22:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I appreciate any help but I don't need a mentor. I'd write this on your talk page but you don't have one 156.34.228.22. I understand actually about the spelling thing. But that user removed about 5 whole huge paragraphs on the thrash metal page w/o justifying his/ her actions. The edit can be seen here. They removed whole paragraphs about Megadeth and the subgenres of thrash metal. These actions were not correct even if the thrash page does need some editing. Navnløs 23:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Keep an eye on

The Pink Floyd article would ya? Some newb keeps adding in a bunch of ugly and unrequired sections headings + they keep adding in a bunch of album cover images which, of course, spanks WP:FAIR policy head-on and can't be used at all. It's bad enough that User:Dismas came along anf thought the "colour" was good and rv'd a cleanup that was based on clear guidlines and policy. Dismas has been around for awhile and should know better than that??? I've had to rm all the junk twice now. It's getting annoying. If anyone sticks something stupid in there could you clear it back to my last version... basically the Featured Article version. Thanks. 156.34.142.110 16:06, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Sure

You are welcome to take a look at my edits, as long as it doesn't involve changing line breaks into comma breaks, as I am sensitive and opinionated about the issue. Navnløs 17:42, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I do try to do that, gotta make it into a habit. Navnløs 17:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Navnløs 18:17, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Question

No biggie - I put them back. I just think they're meaningless. It's blisteringly obvious that he's a musician, so what's the benefit of specifically stating it in the infobox? Just because the fields are available in the template doesn't mean that we have to fill them. Any field we leave out disappears, and, in both of those cases, I think it would be an improvement. "Years active" is completely arbitrary - it's seemingly based on notability of the bands in question. It's not like he wasn't an active musician prior to joining Scream. -- ChrisB 02:19, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

The 'X-Files' page

Your Comment: Hi buddy. Thanks for adding in the reference, but I'd just like to point out that Yahoo! news does not archive their news materials on the 'net. Eventually the reference will expire and the link on that article will "dead-end". I, personally, have no problem with it currently... but was just pointing it out for your future reference. Have a good day, friend! ScarianTalk 19:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MurderWatcher1"

Well, you can't win them all! I did like the show, however! Maybe it will 'stay-up' for a while and X-Files fans will hear some good news!--MurderWatcher1 19:15, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

I know

I know that's how I should feel, and I do have the attitude about many things, but for some reason I picked up on this issue and at the same time became addicted to wikipedia, and suddnely I started caring, at least about this issue. I shouldn't, I know, but I can't help myself. Navnløs 21:37, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

aha, but that was only on the 26 of the last month...six days ago. And if you wouldn't change it I'd be willing to bet no one will. I had this whole argument (on a larger and more argumentative scale) with User:Twsx about pages: Sarcofago, Amon Amarth, Bathory, and a few other pages. We kept reverting each other's edits...and when he finally gave up guess what happened? NO ONE changed it to comma breaks, everyone left it as line breaks. Navnløs 22:14, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Reply

"Yeah, that may be the case but the way it was written this time (I'm assuming that neither were written the exact same) made it seem like a dream. There were some sentences in there that gave that impression." Yeah. Sorry if I gave you that impression.

"I didn't mean to come off uncivil..." Dont worry about it. I didnt mean to target you, anyway, because you did nothing wrong.

"...and I never once laughed at you..." True. That laughing thing was mainly aimed at Lugnuts and Mindraker.

"Apologies if it seemed as though I was being a prick, but I honestly did not mean to offend you." Understood. I did get a little offended by the "it's articles like these that make me want to drop what I'm doing on Wikipedia and go straight to Unencyclopedia and start all over again...", but at times, I can be hypersensitive, so dont sweat it.

"I was attacking the content of the article, nothing and/or no one else. Is that alright?" Yeah. That is. I just overreacted about the starting over thing. Considering I wrote the melodic metalcore article, I took your comments a little too personally.

"I appreciate your enthusiasm for Wikipedia." And I appreciate the apologys and your opinion (well, sort of, anyway ;])

"Take care of yourself buddy" You too, man. Prepare to be Mezmerized! :D 22:18, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

"...especially after that other guy has just came in adding his opinion on melodic metalcore" You mean this?: "That gave me a great laugh thanks =). I can't even believe how utterly nonsensical that article is. There are so, so, so many things wrong with it, one being that that isn't even a genre...melodic metalcore...please. Metalcore is already melodic by definition. It's watered-down melodeath. Anyways you're right that it should be deleted in a hurry." Yeah, this article will be deleted (sadly), but Ive written 15 other articles that I can be proud of. Losing this one hurts, though, as I spent a lot of time on it.

"Do you need any help with writing any new articles, friend?" I might work on making the recently deleted "list of metalcore bands" (also made by me AND met with considerable hostility, so that explains my overreaction) and turning it into a disambiguation page (as there already is a List of mathcore bands and a list of deathcore bands). But to do that, I'll need a List of moshcore bands. And I might need some help with that.

"I feel bad about what's happened..." Dont worry about it. Looking back, I've realized how much I've overreacted. But I was just getting over the loss of the List of metalcore bands article that I had made (considering there was a bit of hostility there, too), so then I come here and read some of the comments made (Im looking at you, Mindraker), and that just drove me over the edge. Since, you see, I spent a lot of time on those articles, so I had something like an "emotional bond" (lack of a better term) with them. So for that reason, I took the comments to heart when I shouldnt have.

Thanks for being a true friend. It helps... a lot. Prepare to be Mezmerized! :D 23:29, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

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"...to the scarian guy, this article was made more than once. So obviously, its not some random daydream." - Yeah, that may be the case but the way it was written this time (I'm assuming that neither were written the exact same) made it seem like a dream. There were some sentences in there that gave that impression. I didn't mean to come off uncivil and I never once laughed at you... One of my motto's on Wikipedia is "Comment on content, not the contributor" and I stuck to that. Apologies if it seemed as though I was being a prick, but I honestly did not mean to offend you. I was attacking the content of the article, nothing and/or no one else. Is that alright? I appreciate your enthusiasm for Wikipedia. Take care of yourself buddy. Scarian^Talk 20:17, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

"Yeah, that may be the case but the way it was written this time (I'm assuming that neither were written the exact same) made it seem like a dream. There were some sentences in there that gave that impression." Yeah. Sorry if I gave you that impression.

"I didn't mean to come off uncivil..." Dont worry about it. I didnt mean to target you, anyway, because you did nothing wrong.

"...and I never once laughed at you..." True. That laughing thing was mainly aimed at Lugnuts and Mindraker.

"Apologies if it seemed as though I was being a prick, but I honestly did not mean to offend you." Understood. I did get a little offended by the "it's articles like these that make me want to drop what I'm doing on Wikipedia and go straight to Unencyclopedia and start all over again...", but at times, I can be hypersensitive, so dont sweat it.

"I was attacking the content of the article, nothing and/or no one else. Is that alright?" Yeah. That is. I just overreacted about the starting over thing. Considering I wrote the melodic metalcore article, I took your comments a little too personally.

"I appreciate your enthusiasm for Wikipedia." And I appreciate the apologys and your opinion (well, sort of, anyway ;])

"Take care of yourself buddy" You too, man. Prepare to be Mezmerized! :D 22:18, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Do you need any help with writing any new articles, friend? I feel bad about what's happened... especially after that other guy has just came in adding his opinion on melodic metalcore. I just wanna help in anyway possible. Just give me a shout if you need any help at all concerning new articles (Or just absolutely anything). Scarian^Talk 22:46, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

"...especially after that other guy has just came in adding his opinion on melodic metalcore" You mean this?: "That gave me a great laugh thanks =). I can't even believe how utterly nonsensical that article is. There are so, so, so many things wrong with it, one being that that isn't even a genre...melodic metalcore...please. Metalcore is already melodic by definition. It's watered-down melodeath. Anyways you're right that it should be deleted in a hurry." Yeah, this article will be deleted (sadly), but Ive written 15 other articles that I can be proud of. Losing this one hurts, though, as I spent a lot of time on it.

"Do you need any help with writing any new articles, friend?" I might work on making the recently deleted "list of metalcore bands" (also made by me AND met with considerable hostility, so that explains my overreaction) and turning it into a disambiguation page (as there already is a List of mathcore bands and a list of deathcore bands). But to do that, I'll need a List of moshcore bands. And I might need some help with that.

"I feel bad about what's happened..." Dont worry about it. Looking back, I've realized how much I've overreacted. But I was just getting over the loss of the List of metalcore bands article that I had made (considering there was a bit of hostility there, too), so then I come here and read some of the comments made (Im looking at you, Mindraker), and that just drove me over the edge. Since, you see, I spent a lot of time on those articles, so I had something like an "emotional bond" (lack of a better term) with them. So for that reason, I took the comments to heart when I shouldnt have.

Thanks for being a true friend. It helps... a lot. Prepare to be Mezmerized! :D 23:29, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Hey no worries. Ironically, one of the main notes about editing Wikipedia is: "If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed for profit by others, do not submit it.". I can understand about growing attached to your work - it happens to all of us - even in real life. But that's what you gotta remember - Wikipedia just ain't worth a damn getting fucked up about. We don't get paid and neither do we get thanked a hell of a lot. You put in as much effort as you want. Try, in a way, to take it as a compliment if people edit your work... they wanna help Wikipedia as much as you do.

Anyway, onto less depressing things... Might I recommend that you create an article that isn't a "list"? List's have a far greater chance of being deleted because there are WP:CAT. And try not to pick something that is a genre... maybe find out about a band with independent news articles written down about it and add it to Wiki? It would be much easier to prove their notability that way.

I shall leave you alone now. Thanks for the smiley! I'll dig something up for your hard work and good attitude towards receiving bullshit from pricks :-D Take care. Scarian^Talk 09:01, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

"Ironically, one of the main notes about editing Wikipedia is: 'If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed for profit by others, do not submit it.' ... Try, in a way, to take it as a compliment if people edit your work... they wanna help Wikipedia as much as you do." Im alright w/ people editing my work, Im NOT OK w/ people laughing at my articles and being uncivil about it.

"Anyway, onto less depressing things... Might I recommend that you create an article that isn't a "list"? List's have a far greater chance of being deleted because there are WP:CAT. And try not to pick something that is a genre... maybe find out about a band with independent news articles written down about it and add it to Wiki? It would be much easier to prove their notability that way." All right. Thanks for the advice.

"Thanks for the smiley!" Youre welcome.

"Take care." All right. You too. Prepare to be Mezmerized! :D 22:47, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Guess what?

You're point means nothing since I just found a much older edit than yours that uses the line break...right here. My edit is from Septmeber, which therefore trumps the edit you showed me from 6 days ago. Navnløs 22:25, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

WOW, while I was pondering how Iron Maiden should have line breaks between it's genres I stumbled across the melodic metalcore page. That gave me a great laugh thanks =). I can't even believe how utterly nonsensical that article is. There are so, so, so many things wrong with it, one being that that isn't even a genre...melodic metalcore...please. Metalcore is already melodic by definition. It's watered-down melodeath. Anyways you're right that it should be deleted in a hurry. Navnløs 22:41, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I could've been nicer to the guy, but don't you agree with what I said? "Melodic metalcore"...that doesn't even make sense. It's like me saying I like pilgrim metal... lol Navnløs 23:14, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

I know he does, but at least dont be too mean (like calling it bullshit, which you implied). Because I almost considered quitting after a series of events that directly involves a lack of civility on the deletion discussion. Prepare to be Mezmerized! :D 23:32, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

FYI

Ask and ye shall receive I guess... sort of??[2] Someone actually went through the painful process... and it IS painful and until they make it easier I refuse to do one. The second shoe has been dropped though so if the editor in question touches the IM article... even just a little to re-add his POV his edit can be added over on the board and a comment added to help guide the admin-on-patrol to the proper judgement.

FYI... when our editor first appeared I suspected him of being at the end of some strings being pulled by another user. He seem to be following Scipo around and looked like a potential "pair" there but I rejected that one pretty quick. I also had a brief suspicion that he was Kameejl in disguise but I was able to eliminate that thought very quickly as well. A bit of history on Kameejl if you want... he used to go by the name handle Emmanuel... something I did not clue into recently. I went back into my long lost username archives and discovered that Mr Emmanuel was a serious "black" on the VP blacklist. Somewhere along the way in his early edit history he riled the ire of one of the entrusted vandal hunters because usually only BV's get added to the blacklist... which I always thought was kind of dumb since they're likely to be permamently blocked as vandal only accounts so why bother clogging up the blacklist with a name thats never going to be used again... but I digress. Whatever Emmanuel/Kameejl did??? he was permanently scarred on Wikipedia for doing it. Anyhoos... good luck and good editing. Have a nice day. 156.34.214.68 00:42, 2 November 2007 (UTC)