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A barnstar for you!

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  The Technical Barnstar
For the creation of Module:ACImplNotes/Proposal/Automatic, which is used through Template:ACImplNotes/Proposal/Automatic and with Template:ACImplNotes on proposed decision pages, resulting in automatic updates such as [1] vs. [2]. I thought we'd need a bot for this, and noone ever wrote one. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:51, 2 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, ToBeFree. (If only I could get as many barnstars from everyone else in total as I've gotten from you!) The module/template still needs some work — such as on what to do when the specified section name matches 0 or 2+ sections. SilverLocust 💬 05:47, 2 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
 
Well, if it currently doesn't, I think it should simply display a big red inconveniently design-/table-breaking error message. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:31, 2 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Added an error message. SilverLocust 💬 04:37, 3 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
If it helps, consider this to be a barnstar from me, too! Thank you, SilverLocust! HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 19:52, 2 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, HouseBlaster. SilverLocust 💬 04:37, 3 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Your GA nomination of Lisa Blatt

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Administrator Elections: Updates & Schedule

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Administrator Elections | Updates & Schedule
 
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Your GA nomination of Lisa Blatt

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The article Lisa Blatt you nominated as a good article has passed  ; see Talk:Lisa Blatt for comments about the article, and Talk:Lisa Blatt/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Extraordinary Writ -- Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:25, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

By the way...

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...I imagine someone's mentioned before, but just in case: if you're not thinking about an RfA, you should be. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:33, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for saying so. I imagine that it doesn't come as a surprise that I'm looking to request those additional tools. SilverLocust 💬 07:24, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
+1. Very +1. Best, Reading Beans 08:12, 16 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

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DYK nomination of Grupo Mexicano de Desarrollo, S.A. v. Alliance Bond Fund, Inc.

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DYK for Lisa Blatt

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On 4 October 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lisa Blatt, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Lisa Blatt, the first woman to argue 50 cases before the Supreme Court of the United States, "elicits laughs and the occasional sharp response from the justices"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lisa Blatt. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Lisa Blatt), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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September 2024 NPP backlog drive – Points award

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  The Reviewer Barnstar
This award is given in recognition to SilverLocust for accumulating at least 50 points during the September 2024 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions helped play a part in the 19,000+ articles and 35,000+ redirects reviewed (for a total of 26,884.6 points) completed during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog! Hey man im josh (talk) 15:24, 7 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

September 2024 NPP backlog drive – Streak award

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Worm Gear Award

This award is given in recognition to SilverLocust for accumulating at least 7 points during each week of the September 2024 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions played a part in the 19,000+ articles and 35,000+ redirects reviewed (for a total of 26,884.6 points) during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog! Hey man im josh (talk) 15:41, 7 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Administrator Elections: Call for Candidates

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Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (disambiguation)

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Hello, thanks for moving the Pennsylvania article. I followed the discussion, but didn't comment. There's a new-ish dab page at Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (disambiguation). Should Attempted assassination of Donald Trump now redirect there? That doesn't seem to have been addressed in the discussion. Wikishovel (talk) 07:49, 8 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Wikishovel: Well I moved the article for the closer, but I'm not the closer. Cyberdog958 may be willing to clarify whether the discussion led to a conclusion on what to do with Attempted assassination of Donald Trump when moved. As to my own opinion, I didn't see rebuttal that the Pennsylvania event was a primary topic, so I would leave it as a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. (If there is WP:NOPRIMARY, then Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (disambiguation) should be swapped to Attempted assassination of Donald Trump.) SilverLocust 💬 08:05, 8 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
All good points. I don't have an opinion on primary topic, just trying to maintain that new dab page, and I'll be glad to hear opinions on whether it should be renamed, or my last edit there reverted per WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. If that takes another rename discussion, that's fine too, I'm in no rush. Wikishovel (talk) 08:10, 8 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Wikishovel: To me, it looks like the redirect should be left as a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT with the hatnote left in place. Per the multiple editors that brought up WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and the pageviews of the two separate articles, it seems like the majority of people navigating to the redirect are trying to reach the newly moved article and not the one in Florida. I would include a link to the dab page at the top, though, possible replacing the Security incidents involving Donald Trump link. cyberdog958Talk 08:18, 8 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
OK, I've reverted the dab page, with Attempted assassination of Donald Trump back at the top as PRIMARYREDIRECT, and updated the hatnote at the Pennsylvania article. That does fine for now, and if the situation changes, the dab page can always be changed again later. Thanks for your quick replies. Wikishovel (talk) 09:10, 8 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
The base name should almost never redirect to the disambiguated title. If it does, then there is a primary topic and the page should be located at the base name instead. Actual examples of primary redirects would be Einstein to Albert Einstein, Olympics to Olympic Games, or, in rarer cases, Jacksonville to Jacksonville, Florida (because of WP:USPLACE). This is no different than if Attempted assassination of Donald Trump redirected to Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (July 2024), a classic example of |unnecessary disambiguation. That being said, I think the closing statement should've gone into more detail about specifically what consensus was found in the discussion. C F A 💬 01:55, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
@CFA: What WP:MISPLACED actually says is that "a base name should not be a redirect to a page with the base name plus a parenthetical disambiguator." That is not the case here. SilverLocust 💬 02:04, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Sure, but the same thing applies to the base name plus non-parenthetical disambigators. Attempted assassination of Donald Trump in Pennsylvania could easily be Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (Pennsylvania) or Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (July 2024). C F A 💬 02:08, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
If that were so, 2024 Summer Olympics would need to be moved to 2024 Olympics and Brown v. Board of Education would be need to be moved to Brown v. Board. The word "parenthetical" is not in that sentence extraneously. SilverLocust 💬 02:23, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
No, because those qualifiers aren't "disambiguators" — they aren't disambiguating from anything — and instead just form alternative names for the same page. C F A 💬 02:36, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
I'll concede that those two examples I gave don't rebut the rule you're suggesting. But WP:NCWWW is fairly clear that the "when", "where", and "what" of an event can be included for descriptive purposes rather than purely to disambiguate from other topics. Its example of 1993 Russian constitutional crisis is illustrative, where the 1993 adds extra description over the somewhat ambiguous (but nonetheless WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT) title Russian constitutional crisis. SilverLocust 💬 06:25, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
@CFA: As I stated in my close, there was consensus to move the article per WP: CONSISTENT and WP:PRECISE. As far as the primary topic, it was brought up a lot by opposers that the attempt in Pennsylvania is the primary and it was never really refuted by the supporters, but that wasn’t the subject of the discussion and wasn’t ever brought into question. The entire reason there is a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT section is for this exact reason. And WP:MISPLACED states that if topic-specific naming conventions dictate the use of a disambiguator, it should redirect to the primary topic. As SilverLocust said, WP:NCWWW says that events should be titled with when, what, and where. It’s naturally disambiguated and WP:MISPLACED doesn’t apply. Your welcome to bring the redirect up in WP:RFD, though. cyberdog958Talk 13:10, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
I'm not going to argue this any further, but NCWWW was essentially never brought up in the discussion. Most participants wanted to move for the sole goal of disambiguating the two attempts (and thus "in Pennsylvania" is equivalent to parenthetical disambiguation), not because they thought the current title failed event title policy. It's pointless to redirect a base name to a disambiguated name (on the basis that apparently there is a primary topic). If there is a primary topic, the page should be located at the base name. If there isn't a primary topic, then there should be a disambiguation page at the base name. Your close makes no mention of whether there is consensus on a primary topic, so now we're stuck with this half-solution. C F A 💬 14:40, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
A discussion to move Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (disambiguation) to Attempted assassination of Donald Trump has now been started at Talk:Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (disambiguation)#Requested move 11 October 2024. This will hopefully resolve the above confusion. GTrang (talk) 14:18, 11 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Administrator Elections: Candidate instructions

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Administrator Elections | Instructions for candidates

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