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Move request

The move of "Israel role in the Iran-Iraq war" request was removed without resolving the issue or a further answer given. What course of action should I take? Damian Lew (talk) 05:50, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

@Damian Lew: As I said in my reply, you can open a requested move. You can do that by clicking here and editing in your reasoning for the move where it says "Place your rationale here". SilverLocust 💬 06:16, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for converting Template:Request for permission links to Module:Request for permission links. I find complicated Lua much easier to read than complicated template syntax. I'm still not sure exactly why we have all these weird programming languages such as Lua for modules, a custom language for edit filter syntax, etc. when we are clearly a JavaScript shop for everything else (user scripts, gadgets, front end MediaWiki), but oh well. –Novem Linguae (talk) 07:56, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Further cleanup of the working but inelegant module shall occur. SilverLocust 💬 08:49, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Reassurance

Hi, SilverLocust! Hope you're doing well. The message you left at WP:RMT is right, and I will be following your advice going forward. Just thought I'd let you know in case you were wondering if I knew something you didn't: no, I don't; I'd just misread WP:X3, and you helped me realize that. Thanks! Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 03:25, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

@Rotideypoc41352: It was fine. The difference between moving or recreating them isn't really worth the bother. SilverLocust 💬 03:31, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

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Engineer's Building airstrike

This is a straightforward supervote, and if you do not reverse it I will be opening a move review. nableezy - 13:01, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Obviously I don't believe it was a supervote or I wouldn't have done the close. Open a move review if you believe that would be productive. SilverLocust 💬 18:24, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
Please see the initiated move review. nableezy - 21:48, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

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Gianna "Gigi" Bryant

In the future, in cases like that where the existing redirect used to be an article with substantial edit history, it's better to move it to the "Administrator Needed" section and request that a WP:HISTMERGE be done rather than swapping the pages. I went ahead and swapped the talk pages back and did a manual merge of their contents, and tagged the article for an admin to do a history merge. --Ahecht (TALK
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21:58, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

@Ahecht: After I had a histmerge declined because there wasn't copying, I've only requested them for C&P moves. I didn't see any copying or attribution issues, so I just swapped them. By the way, you have some pages left in Special:PrefixIndex/Draft talk:Move/ space. SilverLocust 💬 22:41, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up. I was beta testing the next version of my swapping tool and one of my failed attempts must've dropped those. --Ahecht (TALK
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13:50, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
@Ahecht: Unrelatedly, regarding Over the Hill with the Swords of a Thousand Men, I don't think the first move was eligible for redirect suppression. The implausible misnomer criterion (WP:PMRC#7/WP:R3) excludes move redirects when the article wasn't recently created. SilverLocust 💬 20:11, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
The criterion is that the page, not the article, be a recent creation. The article was moved to (novel) yesterday and then to (The Boys novel) two minutes later. Since the (novel) page was a recent creation, (The Boys novel) met the "the moved page was also recently created" criteria. --Ahecht (TALK
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21:04, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
@Ahecht: I have always consider "page creation" not to include moving a page to a new title, which I think of as creating a new title for the page. (Perhaps I could list some of the destinations of moves I have done as "pages I have created" on my user page.) However, I've thought that R3 logically should be based on how long there had been something at the title. I think I'll try boldly rewording R3 a bit to reflect your understanding more clearly (and see if anyone objects after a while). SilverLocust 💬 23:03, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

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Article for Munoz

Can you create an article for DEPARTMENT OF STATE ET AL. v. MUÑOZ ET? This article can be added in Immigration to United States as it’s significant. 207.96.32.81 (talk) 16:34, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understand your request. I already did create an article for Department of State v. Muñoz. If you're asking for a redirect, DEPARTMENT OF STATE ET AL. v. MUÑOZ ET wouldn't be a useful one. SilverLocust 💬 16:38, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

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Re: Richard Lovelace surname pronunciation

Hello, I hope this is the right way to contact you. I am very curious about the source of your edit to Richard Lovelace's page, in which you claim that his surname is pronounced “loveless”. I did some digging myself and found a record of the family name being spelt “Louelas” but no source for the pronunciation. Thank you! Mikla0 (talk) 16:54, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

@Mikla0: I don't recall where I got that from back in 2015 (about 3 days after I created my account). It was likely not based on reliable sources. It may have just been from hearing it pronounced in that way, or from the surname sometimes being respelled to Loveless [78], or something else. You are welcome to remove it. SilverLocust 💬 18:41, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Technical Barnstar
I just noticed that your Module:Request for permission links causes {{rfplinks}} to show if there are other permission requests by the same user on other RFPP subpages. This is brilliant. I saw it on a permission request page and first thought a bot was doing it; creating this functionality inside the wiki itself is a fantastic job. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:37, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
I am adding a teaspoon to this @SilverLocust, you did wonders there. Kudos! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 08:27, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
@ToBeFree and SafariScribe: Thanks, both. Note that anything I manage to do in Lua is not very difficult, as coding is not my thing. SilverLocust 💬 04:28, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

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On 24 July 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Department of State v. Muñoz, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the 2024 U.S. Supreme Court case Department of State v. Muñoz decided that the fundamental right to marry does not give a U.S. citizen a right to challenge their spouse's visa denial? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Department of State v. Muñoz. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Department of State v. Muñoz), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Thanks, josh. SilverLocust 💬 21:37, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
Of course! Be sure to check out WP:NPPSORT and ask on the NPR talk page or the NPP Discord if you have any questions :) Hey man im josh (talk) 21:51, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

"top level domain range"?

The redirect was to {{Page range too broad}} (i.e. the maintenance tag for a citation made unverifiable by citing an excessive volume of text in the source material), not {{top level domain range}}, unless I am missing something from your edit summary. jp×g🗯️ 20:51, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

I was just about to say on your talk page that I misread what you retargeted it to as "IP range too broad", since I was thinking about sockpuppet investigations at the time. (Not that a top-level domain would make sense for referring to a wide IP range.) Still, I don't agree with making {{tldr}} go somewhere different than {{TL;DR}}, both referring to "too long; didn't read". Just use {{prtb}} or something else. SilverLocust 💬 20:55, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

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Nomination for deletion of Module:Page text

 Module:Page text has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:48, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

G7'd. SilverLocust 💬 18:19, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

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Whether "Oldtfdlist should go at the top of the nomination"

In [88], the edit summary said "tm:Oldtfdlist should go at the top of the nomination". Then do you want to change WP:TFDHOW? (I tested it to work at [89], and think your placement looks better. But idk Twinkle's behavior and the template placement should be consistent with P&G)

directly after the <code>Tfd2/Catfd2</code> template.
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directly after the <code>|text=</code>.

142.113.140.146 (talk) 10:43, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

In looking at examples where the template has been used ([90]), I mostly saw it placed at the beginning of the nomination (below the links). However, there are also several examples of it below the nomination. Either way shouldn't affect scripts. So I think it would be fine to update WP:TFDHOW to reflect either practice. (TFDHOW is just an instruction, not really a policy or guideline.) Part of why I changed it was that at WP:TfD#Current discussions it was overflowing into the nomination below yours (before there was a reply to yours). SilverLocust 💬 11:09, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
I did this edit in [91] with alternative wording to reflect your observation. 142.113.140.146 (talk) 22:12, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

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Ciminelli v. United States oldid 1240387372

FYI, Template:Infobox US Supreme Court case/doc § Joined by reads:

If the decision was unanimous, simply say that it was joined by a "unanimous court" rather than relisting every judge.

I have noticed that in actuality joined by unanimous is more common than joined by unanimous court, so you may want to edit this documentation subpage if you are sure you are right.   Psiĥedelisto (talkcontribs) please always ping! 11:56, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

As suggested, I've updated the documentation to document the common practice in articles (see this search) rather than the usage suggested by a user in 2007. Of the 500 most recently edited articles matching the regex JoinMajority *= *'?'?a? ?unanimous, I see 390 results containing ''unanimous'' and 73 containing unanimous court. (Though I usually haven't been using italics.) SilverLocust 💬 17:11, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
Should those 73 be changed? Psiĥedelisto (talkcontribs) please always ping! 13:25, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Because "unanimous court" was a suggested usage (as you pointed out), I would personally leave them alone. (The 73 was just in the first 500 results. There are 1003 total search results, of which 149 appear to include "unanimous court".) SilverLocust 💬 13:43, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Request to change content model (again!)

Hello, would you mind just changing to content model of Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Header/styles.css to sanitised CSS again? Don't mind the warnings, the editor just does that every time you try and use a CSS variable. Tested on Template:X1/styles.css. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 10:35, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

@Matrix: Done. (Special:ChangeContentModel didn't give a warning here. I think it only does when the page text is actually not allowed with the model, unlike editing the page.)
You can also create Sanitized CSS pages on your own by creating the page at some title Template:[...]/styles.css and then moving it to the desired title outside of the template namespace, like I've done before at Template:SilverLocust/styles.css. See Wikipedia:TemplateStyles#Tips. When moving a Sanitized CSS page, it never leaves behind a redirect behind at the old title. SilverLocust 💬 14:52, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the tip! (moving pages seems to fix a lot of stuff for some reason) —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 15:15, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

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Orphan article Countering Foreign Interference Act

Greetings, Today I de-orphaned this article by adding a link at Parliament of Canada article, See also section. Cheers, JoeNMLC (talk) 21:10, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

I would have preferred if you had waited a bit to see if the author would think of anywhere to mention this article, rather than just immediately plopping the bill in the "See also" section of the first bluelink in the article. Individual bills are sometimes put in the see also section of the parliamentary term in which it was enacted (44th Canadian Parliament#See also in this instance), not in the article for the entire Parliament since 1867. SilverLocust 💬 21:44, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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