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WikiProject Canada 10,000 Challenge award

		The Bronze Maple Leaf Award
		This maple leaf is awarded to SounderBruce for expanding three Canadian sport articles for DYK and/or GA promotion during the second year of The 10,000 Challenge of WikiProject Canada. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 00:46, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

WikiCup 2018 November newsletter

The WikiCup is over for another year! Our Champion this year is Courcelles (submissions), who over the course of the competition has amassed 147 GAs, 111 GARs, 9 DYKs, 4 FLs and 1 ITN. Our finalists were as follows:

1. Courcelles (submissions)
2. Kosack (submissions)
3. Kees08 (submissions)
4. SounderBruce (submissions)
5. Cas Liber (submissions)
6. Nova Crystallis (submissions)
7. Iazyges (submissions)
8. Ceranthor (submissions)

All those who reached the final win awards, and awards will also be going to the following participants:

• Cas Liber (submissions) wins the FA prize, for three featured articles in round 2.
• Courcelles (submissions) wins the GA prize, for 92 good articles in round 3.
• Kosack (submissions) wins the FL prize, for five featured lists overall.
• Cartoon network freak (submissions) wins the topic prize, for 30 articles in good topics overall.
• Usernameunique (submissions) wins the DYK prize, for 24 did you know articles in round 3.
• Zanhe (submissions) wins the ITN prize, for 17 in the news articles overall.
• Aoba47 (submissions) wins the GAR prize, for 43 good article reviews in round 1.

Awards will be handed out in the coming weeks. Please be patient!

Congratulations to everyone who participated in this year's WikiCup, whether you made it to the final rounds or not, and particular congratulations to the newcomers to the WikiCup who have achieved much this year. Thanks to all who have taken part and helped out with the competition.

Next year's competition begins on 1 January. You are invited to sign up to participate; it is open to all Wikipedians, new and old. The WikiCup judges will be back in touch over the coming months, and we hope to see you all in the 2019 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email), Godot13 (talk · contribs · email), Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email) and Vanamonde93 (talk · contribs · email).

Congrats, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 06:22, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

Congratulations on being a finalist at the Wikicup. I'd like to meet up with you again sometime. Pine✉ 03:26, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

WikiCup award

Awarded to SounderBruce for reaching the final eight, and finishing in fourth place, in the 2018 WikiCup. Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email), Godot13 (talk · contribs · email), Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email) and Vanamonde93 (talk · contribs · email)

DYK for Washington State Route 546

On 5 November 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Washington State Route 546, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that despite being only eight miles (13 km) long, Washington State Route 546 is considered a major freight highway due to its connections to Interstate 5 and the Canadian border? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Washington State Route 546. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Washington State Route 546), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Statue of Liberty (Seattle)

On 8 November 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Statue of Liberty (Seattle), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Seattle's replica of the Statue of Liberty stands at around five percent of the original's height? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Statue of Liberty (Seattle). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Statue of Liberty (Seattle)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Draft:Main Library (Columbus, Ohio)

I noticed you haven't touched this draft in over two weeks. Let me write this without you reverting me, and I will have it fully fleshed out and published today. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 15:43, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

I'd love to see an article in the main space, too, even an imperfect version. :) ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:01, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

@Ɱ: I'd rather have sources in hand before trying to form something complete. A redirect is fine, as this isn't a pressing matter like a news event. SounderBruce 06:17, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

As I was saying, I'll find plenty of sources and create an article. Most of Wikipedia isn't written in the draft space, as the encyclopedia is always a WP:WORKINPROGRESS. I just want to be clear with you that I could invest a lot of time and energy in this article that you seemingly gave up - though I won't want to if you keep controlling how this happens. You have absolutely no right to here. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 14:30, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of MLS Cup 2009

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Museum of Flight Edits?

Can you explain why you undid the edits I made to the TMOF website? I'm new so I wasn't sure why. They are accurate. Thanks Jlparch (talk) 04:22, 11 November 2018 (UTC)Jlparch

Thank you for explaining - I appreciate it. Jlparch (talk) 15:33, 12 November 2018 (UTC)Jlparch

DYK for Edmonds, Washington

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Vanamonde (talk) 06:48, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

I am enjoying your articles on USA Wikipedia Challenge

I have been writing/expanding articles for the 50,000 USA challenge and always read the articles above mine. I enjoy your articles, especially the Washington highway articles. I lived in Seattle for 20 years/Port Townsend for 5 years, so it's a bit of a nostalgia trip/history lesson reading about roads I used to drive. Thx! MauraWen (talk) 16:37, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

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Paine Field edits

SounderBruce, please look at other airport pages details regarding public transportation. While there are varying levels of detail, most mention specific route numbers that are serviced, whether it is a train or a bus. Some pages even discuss frequencies and hours of operation that the routes run.

I agreed with your comments that I initially had too much detail, which I then scaled down, to details comparable or less than other airport pages public transportation details.

The edits I added to the Paine Field page, elaborated on the Swift Green Line and added reference to the upcoming change to Everett Transit Route 8. These are the only two regular routes that will service the airport. The primary airport entrance, happens to be on Airport Rd & 100th St SW, as displayed by the "Paine Field Snohomish County Airport" sign at the intersection. It also happens that the passenger terminal is being built off of this intersection.

King County Metro 952, is a rush-hour only commuter only route, that is catered to Boeing employees, yet it is mentioned on the page. Why mention King County Metro 952, but not the only two regular routes that will be serving the primary airport entrance/passenger terminal, Swift Green Line and Everett Transit Route 8? This is inconsistent with NPOV.

Look at the Sea-Tac Airport page, which goes into far more detail on public transportation options. Look at the airport pages of Oakland, Vancouver, as other examples.

MEA707 (talk) 05:17, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

@MEA707: The correct articles to look to for inspiration are those with FA/GA status, which are signs of proper peer reviewing and compliance with project-wide standards. Your examples are regular battlegrounds for these kinds of changes and can't be trusted to present anything standardized.

Back to the changes: I agree that transit information is needed, but your edits went too far in adding information that would violate WP:NOTDIR. We should prioritize current service, along with notable future projects; Everett's upcoming March changes are not exactly pinned down and thus should be taken with a grain of salt. The peak-only services from Metro and CT are notable and would need to be included for compliance with NPOV, which explicitly forbids this kind of favoritism. It is, however, not necessary to include route numbers (which can change from year to year) or bus frequencies (which are also subject to periodic changes). SounderBruce 05:23, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

@SounderBruce When the route numbers change, then you change the route number in the Wikipedia article. No different than an airport adding a new addition and therefore having a new set of gates. You update the page accordingly. Same goes with anything that changes. I agreed with removing the route frequencies, and referenced only the route number and destination. I read the NOTDIR criteria, and do not agree with you at all that my latest edits are in violation of NOTDIR. I provide no details regarding frequencies or schedules. Just route numbers and stops/stations, that's keeping it high level. Regarding Everett's upcoming March changes, as of this past Wednesday November 21, the routes and frequencies are finalized, and are no longer listed as "Proposed." Short of massive uproar from the public, there should not be much if any changes. Please review this recent page update on Everett Transit's website: https://www.everetttransit.org/2019routes Regarding the peak only services, I did not remove King Country Metro 952 references in any of my edits. In fact, there was nothing in the previous edits I removed. I only added Everett Route 8 and pertinent clarifications to the Swift Green Line station as it relates to the passenger terminal.MEA707 (talk) 05:45, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

@SounderBruce For the sake of further consistency and NPOV, we should add reference to the rush hour only Community Transit 105 which currently serves that intersection, since we're mentioning King County Metro 952. This way all four routes are mentioned, the two rush hour routes King County Metro 952 and Community Transit 105 and the two upcoming regular routes Swift Green Line and Everett Transit 8. MEA707 (talk) 05:45, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

@MEA707: My edits already included Route 105 (which serves Mill Creek and Bothell, and will be directly replaced by the Green Line). Again, you should not use route numbers unless the articles is directly related to transit (e.g. a station). It's a well-established convention that has been argued many, many times and I don't feel like repeating it again. SounderBruce 05:59, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

@SounderBruce Take a look at this page before I made even the first edit, it referenced Everett Transit Route 12, King County Metro 952, and the Swift Green Line. Those are route numbers, and those were not my additions, they were already there long before I came along. Where is the reference to this "well-established convention" that route numbers should not be listed in an article unless it was an article directly related to transit? And why wasn't this "well-established convention" enforced in this article until I came along? And why isn't this "well-established convention" enforced in countless other airport articles, especially the much higher profile and visibility airport articles like London Heathrow, Paris Charles de Gaulle, New York JFK, etc? These high profile pages should be the examples followed, not the exception. MEA707 (talk) 06:20, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

@MEA707: It turns out that Wikipedia is a volunteer-run project that has volunteers who aren't omniscient. The Green Line is not a route number, but a branded BRT service (and the difference is clear as a local or visitor), but the other bus routes should be boiled down to describing things that aren't easily changed: their general corridor, and their operator.

The established convention on bus routes and their notability/worthiness to include in articles is usually seen in bus-related articles. This does not include train lines or BRT lines, which have more prominent branding and are given proper coverage in secondary sources. Long discussions at AFD and smaller RfCs like Talk:Oakland Coliseum station have led to a general consensus to not include individual route numbers if they aren't absolutely crucial.

Looking at your examples, and discounting New York because it is a very special case when it comes to public transportation coverage on en-wiki, I don't see specific routes being given prominent mentions. Heathrow mentions where you can find buses (and the separate bus station article doesn't even list the route numbers); Charls de Gaulle does mention two bus routes, but no details beyond their numbers (and should be removed anyway); and other U.S. airport articles don't mention specific route numbers. SounderBruce 07:22, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

@SounderBruce Route numbers/route colors/route letters are all forms of route identifiers. If Community Transit wanted to, they could have branded the Swift BRT lines as numbers or letters, but they chose colors in this case. But it's still the same concept. It's to differentiate it from the other Swift line, the Blue Line, and then eventually the Orange and Red Lines. I agree that a BRT has more prominence than a regular bus line, and a train line has even more prominence. I looked through the Oakland Coliseum station talk page, and cannot find anything conclusive that states route numbers need to be excluded. The consensus was that Wikipedia is not a timetable and should hot have schedules, but that bus routes and destinations are appropriate.

Regarding the examples, New York JFK is not the only special case. Take a look at the pages of LaGuardia Airport, Boston Logan, San Francisco, and LAX, all list bus route numbers. LAX is an example of an airport currently without rail service, so there is emphasis on the bus routes provided. The Charles de Gaulle page has a specific Bus section under Ground Transportation and references 7 bus lines including 2 night only lines when the RER train is not running. London Heathrow, is different, in as you pointed out there is a link to a separate article for the Heathrow bus station. The Heathrow bus station, is very big and busy with many many bus lines. You are correct, it does not list bus route numbers, probably due to the complexity of many bus operators and the addition of long-distance buses in addition to local buses.

Playing devil's advocate here, but if we look at the Bellevue Transit Center page, it has a table referencing the 20 bus lines and destinations served. Yet, the Heathrow bus station page, does not list the bus routes/destinations. So which do you think is correct for Wikipedia purposes, the Bellevue Transit Center page or the Heathrow bus station page? Both are bus transit centers, yet one has bus route and destination details and the other does not. MEA707 (talk) 20:45, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

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East Link rail on Mercer Island

In case you didn't know, rail has been laid on at least part of the route near Mercer Way. You can see it on the WSDOT cameras: check out the Shorewood camera in particular [1]. Bri.public (talk) 19:23, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

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Template:Did you know nominations/Brenda Jones (politician)

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DYK nomination of MLS Cup 2003

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DYK for Washington State Route 243

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Alex Shih (talk) 00:03, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

REI

I've never heard of REI, but then I'm not American, but a simple Google search shows me you're right and Recreational Equipment, Inc. is probably the primary topic for "REI", so thank you for your reversion. I tweaked the hatnote to comply with WP:INTDAB. Cheers, Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:08, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

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DYK for Washington State Route 504

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DYK for MLS Cup 2018

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ITN recognition for 2018 Copa Libertadores Finals

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DYK for MLS Cup 2002

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Mifter (talk) 00:03, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Interstate 82

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Seattle infobox

With regards to you reverting my last edit on the Seattle article, you said that it was unnecessary to include the official name for the city. Shouldn't the Seattle infobox follow the standard format of every other American city article? I have yet to see an infobox of a large city in the United States that doesn't display the official name as well as the common name. It just isn't consistent with other articles. Howpper (talk) 21:22, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Cascades Public Transportation?

Do you think that it might make sense to create this wikiproject. Portland, Vancouver and Seattle's systems keep expanding as you know, and this project could help organize work needed to update them and expand them. While I don't live anywhere near there, and though I don't have too much time, I could help on the project. Thanks for all of your great work. --Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 13:41, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

@Kew Gardens 613: The systems are fairly different and crossovers are few and far between. I don't think we need extra pages to maintain if it's only for a handful of locals. SounderBruce 21:30, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Fair enough.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 22:24, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

@Kew Gardens 613: Also, the project would need to be named "Pacific Northwest Public Transit" or "Cascadia Transit Systems". "Cascades" is just the mountain range. SounderBruce 00:06, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

@Kew Gardens 613: Keep in mind, there are existing projects for reaching out to potential editors for collaboration, including: British Columbia, Canada, Cascadia, Oregon, Seattle, Vancouver, and Washington. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:46, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for MLS Cup 2003

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DYK nomination of MLS Cup 2009

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Nomination of Austin FC for deletion

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Seattle Metro Transit

Not seeing the blatant hoax for Seattle Metro Transit. Looks like it's more of a bad title for an article about bus transit in the Seattle metro area.----Fabrictramp | talk to me 05:22, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

@Fabrictramp: The user is claiming the existence of a single, amalgamated organization, when in reality none exists. SounderBruce 05:25, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Totally not getting that out of the article. You're more than welcome to move it to draft space and ask the user to improve and clarify it.----Fabrictramp | talk to me 05:30, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

All of this is already covered in Transportation in Seattle, so I don't see the point in preserving any of this. Most of it is poorly sourced or uses second-hand information gleaned from other articles. SounderBruce 05:32, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Undid revision 874558357 by SounderBruce (talk)

Hey! I am a Bellevue Community member who is very excited about this project. There is currently very little information about it on Wikipedia, only a few comments under Kemper Freeman's bio. I really think there needs to be some information out there, and what I have tried to add is all accurate based on press releases and the website of the organization. I even asked for permission to use the architectural rending, to which the organization was happy to let me do, and they own the rights. All of the content has been verified, and I would appreciate it if you would stop deleting what I've added. Especially the change to reflect the section of the page being called "Arts and Culture" vs. simply "Culture" because multiple Arts organizations are mentioned and the title "Arts and Culture" is more accurate. Belle98009 (talk) 00:47, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

TFA

Thank you for Edmonds station (Washington), "a fairly normal train station in an American suburb, with Amtrak and commuter train service. It has been rebuilt three times on the same site and has seen train service come and go over the past 120 years"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:48, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

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Civic Stadium is not a High School Stadium, but Highschool Teams and universities play their, as well as regional soccer teams and football teams. Could you possibly re-think you proposed deletion of Civic Stadium (Washington) it’s owned by City of Bellingham. Fernando Gonzalez 03:13, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

@Gonzafer001: Stadiums are covered under WP:NBUILD and WP:GNG. The stadium itself must be the subject of secondary coverage from outside the immediate local area (in this case, Bellingham, Vancouver BC, and Seattle) to warrant a separate article. In its current state, it could easily be tucked into the Sports section of the Bellingham article. SounderBruce 03:18, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for Clarifying, I will take in mind next time. Fernando Gonzalez 03:20, 9 January 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gonzafer001 (talk • contribs)

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Washington governors

Howdy. Since the article is List of Governors of Washington, there's no need to have the word Governor in the note, as it would be redundant. Also, linking the expiration of a term to an election, is misleading. A term doesn't end on election day. GoodDay (talk) 16:13, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

May I remind you, that article is under 1RR per-Arbcom's ruling on post-1932 American political articles. GoodDay (talk) 21:23, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

@GoodDay: As a Featured list, the Washington governor's article should be held to its reviewed standards and not the current state of other governor lists. Next time, add an edit summary to make your intentions clear to editors. SounderBruce 21:25, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Also, look over all the other lists of governors articles. Perhaps @Golbez: would like to chime in. GoodDay (talk) 21:26, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

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Pioneer Square Totem Pole

Hi SounderBruce, thanks for reviewing my article Pioneer Square Totem Pole! I'm fine with the page move and I just copy edited the article per your request (I may have published it slightly too soon before giving it a final clean-up). However, I was wondering if you could elaborate on the Start class rating you gave it. I was actually planning to nominate it as a good article soon and was wondering if you could provide some additional feedback. Thank you! SamCordes (talk) 06:23, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

@SamCordes: I've bumped it up to C-Class. The lead section definitely needs more development and a few paragraphs/sentences are in needed of appropriate inline citations. Beyond that, I think the article looks pretty set for GAN. SounderBruce 06:24, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! I appreciate the feedback and will work on the lead and review my inline citations. Best, SamCordes (talk) 06:29, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Greenhaven, Ga and Neighbors Against Greenhaven being removed from the page

Unclear as to why the content from Neighbors of Greenhaven is being removed from Greenhaven, Ga. It has verifiable sources in that it has been mentioned in not only local media such as AJC.com (the main metro paper), Decaturish (a local site covering Decatur, which is a city in the proposed Greenhaven) and in a national media outlet, CityLab, as well.

There is huge opposition to this which is why it has not been adopted into law and this all relates to the article. can you offer specific suggestions on why it keeps being removed and perhaps what can be removed to allow it? It doesn't appear that the content violates any rules.

The website address for Neighbors Against Greenhaven continues to be removed and yet Greenhaven's website is clearly a website about advocating for Greenhaven.

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@TravelinFool: Please read our policies on neutral point of view and undue weight before trying to re-add the article. The link to the Greenhaven website is an appropriate external link, while you are trying to overwhelm the article with one side's viewpoint. At most, the opposition warrants one paragraph (or less), not an entire section. Please don't spam user talk pages and instead use Talk:Greenhaven, Georgia, which is the more appropriate venue for content disputes. SounderBruce 02:26, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

reduced to less than one paragraph. we'll reduce to one sentence TravelinFool 20:08, 14 January 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TravelinFool (talk • contribs)

why do you keep removing content that was approved. there is no duplicate content. If you look through the thread you have used various reasons as to remove. the last time you put duplicate content, yet there is no duplicate content. TravelinFool 13:23, 21 January 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TravelinFool (talk • contribs)

San Jose v D.C. 1996

Hey Bruce, sorry to pester you here but I was wondering if you had any more comments regarding the move discussion at Talk:San Jose Clash v D.C. United (April 1996). I would really value your feedback on the matter. Thanks, BLAIXX 20:16, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

@Blaixx: I'm not 100% onboard with the name change, but if it must happen I would prefer Inaugural MLS match, which is less wordy and still gets the point across. SounderBruce 02:28, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

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Status of National Veterans Memorial and Museum Draft

Howdy!

I'm kind of new to editing Wikipedia. Am I on the right track in regards to expanding the draft for The National Veterans Memorial and Museum? Sorry again about my earlier confusion regarding review submission.

Thanks for your time!

Mbrickn (talk) 02:43, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

@Mbrickn: It definitely looks better now. I'm going to go ahead and make some copyedits and expansions when I have time...to be honest, I've mostly forgotten about this draft due to some other projects piling up. SounderBruce 07:32, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

@SounderBruce:That's fine! Glad to know I'm on the right track. Thanks again! Mbrickn (talk) 16:28, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

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Is bus rapid transit creep a thing, or a neologism, or even WP:OR? ☆ Bri (talk) 01:57, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

@Bri: Definitely a real thing. There's been cases where light rail is rejected in favor of a cheaper (but "equivalent") BRT plan, which is then watered down to remove anything that would make it true BRT (off-board fare payment, bus-only lanes, transit signal priority). RapidRide is an example of the second stage. SounderBruce 02:32, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

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