SpaceNinja80
Welcome!
editHello, SpaceNinja80, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Below are some pages that you might find helpful. For a user-friendly interactive help forum see the Wikipedia Teahouse.
- The five pillars of Wikipedia
- Contributing to Wikipedia or the Tutorial
- Create your first article (using the Article Wizard if you wish)
- How to add those all-important references
- Simplified style guide
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. Again, If you need help visit the Teahouse or you can to ask for help on your talk page, and a volunteer should respond shortly. Again, welcome! We are so glad you are here!
Thanks. SpaceNinja80 (talk) 07:21, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
I didn't have to add the tildes. Lemme see what happens if I do anyway. SpaceNinja80 (talk) 07:22, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
Yeah the tildes don't do anything. SpaceNinja80 (talk) 07:23, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
December 2020
editBefore adding a category to an article, as you did to Avatar (2009 film), please make sure that the subject of the article really belongs in the category that you specified according to Wikipedia's categorization guidelines. The category being added must already exist, and must be supported by the article's verifiable content. Categories may be removed if they are deemed incorrect for the subject matter. Thank you. DonIago (talk) 22:21, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Please use "citation needed" where edits are correct if not satisfactorily attributed. Thank you. SpaceNinja80 (talk) 23:45, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Avatar (2009 film). Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. If you want to claim that the film is anti-fascist, you must provide a source that explicitly makes that claim. Thank you. DonIago (talk) 01:19, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
[1] Lists the film as an anti-fascist work, and that article is listed as a "good article." I read the guidelines, but in practice there are no categorical citations required for an article to qualify as good, and as I stated in my edit note, the plot is definitive of fascism. I originally made it a minor edit because I couldn't imagine a reasonable dispute. I'm new to Wikipedia, I'm not new to humanities or cinema. If I were you, I would seek a second opinion and having satisfied any discrepancy, I would have the common decency to put it back. But do what's right for you. As propaganda goes, the film is obviously antifascist. I'm not invested. SpaceNinja80 (talk) 03:12, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- That another article, even a "good article", categorizes the film as anti-fascist wouldn't necessarily mean that categorization is correct either. Looking at the article text, I see no explicit reference to fascism. Similar topics, but not explicitly fascism. I intend to challenge that categorization as well. The best option, in accordance with WP:CATVER, would be to add sourced text to both articles that inarguably brings up fascism. FWIW, I appreciate that you didn't feel your edit would be controversial and I have no issue with you marking your edit as minor, but if you contribute here long enough...and I hope you will!...you'll find that unfortunately we have a lot of problems with editors adding categories using their own judgment but without ensuring that the articles clearly support their categorizations. You're welcome to raise the question at the article's Talk page if you feel additional opinions would be helpful. If the film is "obviously" antifascist, then it should be easy enough to find a reliable source that's made that argument. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 06:46, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
Ok, good talk. Before you challenge the other one, note the citation and summary for my edit on this one. SpaceNinja80 (talk) 07:21, 24 December 2020 (UTC)