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Catholic vs Roman Catholic, Justification Page

Hello!

I was the one who had attempted to make the "Roman Catholic" to "Catholic" change. The argument has effectively already been made in the following page...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_(term)

The Holy See itself refers to the Church, as it historically had in the early centuries, as the Catholic Church.

If there is further consensus that needs to be gained, how may I go about doing so? (I'm new to the entire Wikipedia arena)

Thanks! Patriotic524 (talk) 05:06, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

If necessary, I can also provide evidence that even in the Early Church, other Christian groups differentiated themselves in name from the Catholic Church. Patriotic524 (talk) 05:11, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

I would also point out this article as well. Please see the "Churches" tab.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_particular_churches_and_liturgical_rites#Latin_(Western)_rites Patriotic524 (talk) 05:22, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

The point regarding the Justification (theology) article is that Lutheran and Reformed Christians regard themselves as "catholic" too, so in an article comparing different views they need to be properly distinguished. StAnselm (talk) 05:29, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Eg the Anglican Communion. I find the title of Portal:Catholic Church NPOV. And see Catholic Church (disambiguation) which clearly uses the term to refer to other denominations. Doug Weller talk 10:45, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

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Well done

What an amazing account you have. You've contributed so much Christian knowledge to the online world. I'm blown away! Cbowsie (talk) 11:29, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! StAnselm (talk) 12:53, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi! Question From a Journalist

I'm doing a story for Gizmodo on how editors monitor pronoun changes on Wikipedia. I've noticed you've contributed to a few pages by contributing the correct pronouns for folks who transitioned later in life/were known by their dead names during their professional lives. I'd love to set up a chat if you're interested in speaking. My email is henry.giardina@gmail.com. Please feel free to reach out, and keep up the great work!

-H — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hgiardina (talk • contribs) 18:38, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi again! Following up on this-- would you be willing to do a brief interview with me? Let me know, and best,

Henry Giardina

@Hgiardina: I appreciate the invite, but no thanks. StAnselm (talk) 21:19, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

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A heads-up

You recently applied a {{db-repost}} to Derek Chauvin. This speedy tag is only supposed to be used for repostings, not brand new versions of previously deleted articles.

If you aren't sure this is not a brand new or substantially changed version of the older article I suggest you withdraw your speedy. If you really think this new version also merits deletion would you please consider initiating your concerns in a new AFD? Geo Swan (talk) 23:07, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Well, I have now simply reverted back to the redirect. Of course, not being an admin, I have no way of knowing how similar the new version is to the deleted version. But the consensus was clear that there should not be an article about this person. StAnselm (talk) 23:10, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

• Not to put too fine a point on it, but you are tacitly acknowledging that your speedy tag was a lapse from policy. Please never do this again. Geo Swan (talk) 23:14, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

The end result certainly needs to be a redirect to the main article. The only question is whether the revision history needs to be deleted. StAnselm (talk) 23:16, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

I'm confused, though - are you suggesting the article should be kept? StAnselm (talk) 23:17, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

• BLP1E is routinely misinterpreted. It doesn't say that every single individual who is known primarily for their involvement in a single event should have our coverage of them shoehorned into an article on that event. Yet people routinely act as if this is what it says. BLP1E explicitly says when the individual's role is central to the event a standalone article may be justified. Killing of George Floyd is already too large. I made a bunch of edits to it today, and kept bumping up against edit conflicts, as other people worked on different aspects of the article.

There is information we should cover that would be off topic for Killing of George Floyd. Kellie Chauvin filed divorce papers against Derek. She was getting death threats. Does that really belong in KoGF?

Do the 17 previous disciplinary events in Chauvin's police dossier really belong in KoGF?

No, they do not. In my opinion all four officers may merit stand alone articles. In my opinion George Floyd merits a stand alone article as well. Geo Swan (talk) 23:26, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Your courtesy blanking of Derek Chauvin

Could you please go to Talk:Derek Chauvin and explain the basis of your courtesy blanking? Geo Swan (talk) 23:12, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

This article is much more detailed and contains real content instead of a pure BLP violation like the Derek Chauvin (police officer) article. Both WP:1E ("If the event is highly significant, and the individual's role within it is a large one, a separate article is generally appropriate." and WP:CRIME ("The motivation for the crime or the execution of the crime is unusual—or has otherwise been considered noteworthy—such that it is a well-documented historic event") allows such articles. We're talking about a monumental incident that has sparked mass protests, rioting and political unrest nationwide and worldwide. It's obvious that Derek Chauvin, whose actions are behind all of it, is worthy of an article of his own. Se James Holmes (mass murderer) and Dylann Roof as examples of BLPs allowed for perpetrators of high-profile crimes.Kebabpizza (talk) 23:30, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

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Hi! Question From a Journalist

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mainland exceptionalism

is much more complicated than appears in the being left off the map article - please note that 2014+ is but a pin prick on the big arse of australian history - careful examination of the record even might find some more gems... JarrahTree 02:50, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

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Join the Months of African Cinema Global Contest!

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The AfroCine Project invites you to join us again this October and November, the two months which are dedicated to improving content about the cinema of Africa, the Caribbean, and the diaspora.

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Thank you very much for participating in the Months of African Cinema global contest/edit-a-thon, and thank you for your contributions so far.

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"National Church"

You reverted my edit of the Episcopal Church in South Carolina, arguing that there was no evidence that the tension between the diocese was with the (international) Episcopal Church. I think this is based on a misunderstanding. While the term "national church" is common, it is also misleading. See Province 9 of the Episcopal Church in the United States of America and Province 2 of the Episcopal Church in the United States of America -- you will find that Haiti and Europe, Ecuador and Venezuela, are every bit as much a part of the Episcopal Church with which South Carolina had tensions as the Central Gulf Coast or Chicago. Do you have a specific problem with the term "larger Episcopal Church as a whole"? Is there a reason to emphasize the national (i.e. specifically U.S.) character of the tensions, and to imply that the tensions were not with the Episcopal Church in the British Virgin Islands, but only with that part of the Episcopal Diocese of the Virgin Islands located in formerly Danish colonies (purchased by the US in 1917)?--Bhuck (talk) 00:33, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

OK, fair enough. I think "national" was there to indicate that it wasn't a tension with the wider Anglican Communion. StAnselm (talk) 04:11, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

I did not intend to imply that the tension was with the wider Anglican Communion, though of course there were plenty of tensions within the Anglican Communion as well, but those are the subjects of other articles. I have deleted other references to the "national church" now, and replaced them with phrases more specific to the Episcopal Church within and outside US borders. In one place there was a reference to disagreements with "national developments" which could have implied secular politics as well, though of course those were not meant. I don't think the controversy is about nationalism or patriotism at all. I did, however, leave the reference to a national church in the article about the history before 2012, where it refers to the founding of the Episcopal Church as a national church, because at that time, in the late 18th century, the issue was one of "dissolving the bands which have connected" one people to another, and there were no Episcopal Churches in Ecuador, Taiwan or Italy at the time, as there are today.--Bhuck (talk) 19:41, 30 December 2020 (UTC)