Summer3212

American Art Therapy Association

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Speedy deletion nomination of American Art Therapy Association

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Talkback

Hello, Summer3212. You have new messages at NuclearWarfare's talk page.
Message added 15:22, 3 December 2009 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

King Öomie 15:22, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Bump

Also see my response at the AATA talkpage. --King Öomie 15:54, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

American Art Therapy Association

Welcome to Wikipedia! You noted in your comments on the article (which actually should be placed on the article's talk page) that you are new to Wikipedia. Please read the creating your first article page before attempting to create a Wikipedia article. This will help you avoid pitfalls such as copyright violations, conflicts of interest, and other concerns.

Further, be aware that arttherapy.org is still a live website, and an automated Wikipedia process, CorenBot, found that the text of your article is very similar, or identical, to that page. Wikipedia is exposed to copyright violation laws when such reproduction occurs. Again, follow the Your First Article tutorial to find out how to properly write an article. Thanks! --SquidSK ^(1MC•log) 15:40, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

December 2009

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page American Art Therapy Association has been reverted.
Your edit here was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove links which are discouraged per our external links guideline from Wikipedia. The external link you added or changed is on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. I removed the following link(s): bflorenc@arttherapy.org (matching the regex rule (?<![^\s:])[^\s\]\[\{\}\\\|^\/`<>@:]+@\w+(?!\.htm)(?:\.\w+){1,3}). It appears that you inserted an e-mail address to American Art Therapy Association. Wikipedia pages should not contain personal information. For more information, please read Wikipedia:Biography of Living People, specifically the section about personal information.
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This bot goes on the attack whenever it sees someone add an email address to a page. I understand this series of events may seem overwhelming, but this particular portion of it is entirely automated. --King Öomie 15:45, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from a page you have created yourself. If you do not believe the page should be deleted, you can place a {{hangon}} tag on the page, under the existing speedy deletion tag (please do not remove the speedy deletion tag), and make your case on the page's talk page. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you. King Öomie 15:56, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Okay

Stop. You are rushing ahead with this, with no regard for wikipedia policy, and it's going to get you blocked. Please slow down, so an actual dialogue can take place. --King Öomie 15:58, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Didn't mean to rush, I have other work to do and can't stick around here to hear the back/forth. I guess I'll log on tomorrow and see what the outcome is. Thanks for all of your hlep. Summer3212 (talk) 16:21, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Remember, the world does not end tomorrow. Wikipedia will be here for a long time, and taking the time to make a good article will do a better service to your organization than hastily throwing together something that will be deleted. --SquidSK ^(1MC•log) 16:27, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Got it, but also, please note that we had a page on here, at least from May 2009, that i did not write, that someone has deleted....so now I am trying to recreate it! have a great day. Summer3212 (talk) 16:34, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Please note that the version you reference was deleted because one editor proposed its deletion, on the grounds that it was "Advertisement, Non Notable" and after several days nobody disagreed with this assessment. Recreating an advertisement for an organization judged non-notable, when you have a severe conflict of interest, is not a good way to work here. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:52, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Revised American Art Therapy Association

Revisions have been made, to be objective, citing other references, and using the following other pages in Wikipedia as a guide: American Counseling Association, United Way of America and Gifts In Kind International. Thank you for the thoughtful comments and assistance. Summer3212 (talk) 20:37, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

If you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article American Art Therapy Association, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred from the tone of the edit and the proximity of the editor to the subject, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:

1. editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with;
2. participating in deletion discussions about articles related to your organization or its competitors; and
3. linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam).

Please familiarize yourself with relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. For more details about what, exactly, constitutes a conflict of interest, please see our conflict of interest guidelines. Thank you. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:47, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

If you look at the United Way of America page, American Counseling Association page and Gifts In Kind International page you can't tell me that someone inside of those organizations didn't write those descriptions....what are the alternatives? to ask a stranger to write about something they know nothing about? I feel like I'm being targeted. The copy that I posted was nearly identical in style to the 3 other nonprofits/associations that I have cited, and I don't see anyone deleting their pages? Summer3212 (talk) 21:23, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

As I pointed out before, comparing your article to other articles in the form of "Well, they have X, so I can have X" is a complete waste of your time. It doesn't matter. Articles are judged based on their compliance with Wikipedia policy, not by how much they look like articles about similar topics. If you want to point out that other articles are ALSO in violation of policy, etc etc, that's great. But the result of that will be that they are looked at and fixed- NOT that your article will be given a free ride. There aren't enough editors to finish all of the work all the time, and the backlog is consistently huge. But we don't have to fix every other article before getting to yours.

And again, the idea is, if a topic is notable enough for inclusion, someone unrelated to the topic will write the article. You're not being targeted here- this is routine. Articles are re-evaluated from time to time. --King Öomie 22:19, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

What is ok

The Conflict of Interest policy says the following edits are ok:

1. Removing spam and reverting vandalism.
2. Deleting content that violates Wikipedia's biography of living persons policy.
3. Fixing spelling and grammar errors.
4. Reverting or removing their own COI edits. Cleaning up your own mess is allowed and encouraged.
5. Making edits that have been agreed to on the talk page.
6. Adding citations, especially when another editor has requested them.

You may also suggest substantive changes to an article should use that article's talk page. When making a request, please consider disclosing your conflict of interest to avoid misunderstanding. You should try to cite third-party sources when possible, and keep in mind the way the edits may look to those outside the organization.

Avoiding an image of self-interested editing (whether self-promotion, etc) is very important. Other groups have had problems with this in the past (Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America for example).--71.156.89.167 (talk) 03:25, 8 December 2009 (UTC)