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editThis source Yusha claimed clashes near Tadef and the town under SAA control.linklink But two other sources the pro-opposition and anti-SAA sources. We cant use pro-opp/anti-SAA sources against SAA for rebels gains.link link Mehmedsons (talk) 21:11, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
- Well now that the situation stabilized it looks like we're OK. TheNavigatrr (talk) 17:24, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
Al-Qarah
editYou need roll back this your change.link as sources make mention that TAF/Rebels forces reach outskirts of Arima west of Manbij at Aleppo Governorate(not at Raqqa Gov.) after taking Tal Turin and Al-Qarah from SDF.linklink Mehmedsons (talk) 16:35, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- I have now done so. This code can be confusing! TheNavigatrr (talk) 17:25, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
"Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a pro-rebel source, says that YPG retook these villages."
editCan I ask the source please? Beshogur (talk) 15:08, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- Beshogur Seems is it true! According to the local source SOHR they regains them. link Mehmedsons (talk) 07:58, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- Yep, I searched it. Beshogur (talk) 14:42, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
SDF villages to SAA
editLocal source Al Masdar and Pro SDF ssource ANF News publish statement of the Manbij Military Council(MMC):To defense of Manbij we have transferred, after reaching a new alliance with Russia, the defence of the line to the west of Manbij – the villages between us and the FSA/Turkish army – to Syrian state forces.linklink Mehmedsons (talk) 16:50, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- More confirmation SDF to hand over villages west of Manbij to SAA!linklinklinklink Mehmedsons (talk) 17:05, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- Beware. This does not mean SAA actually has taken control over these areas. This is a diplomatic agreement. SAA is busy fighting ISIS near Deir Hafir and holding Tadef to worry about sending a thousand troops up near the Manbij border areas. TheNavigatrr (talk) 17:33, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Tal Turin
editFierce clashes between 'Euphrates Shield' forces and YPG in Kirhoyuk, Ulashli and Tal Turin.link Mehmedsons (talk) 19:36, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- Source is secondary and not reliable. No new clashes reported. TheNavigatrr (talk) 19:47, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
Umm Mayal
editYou can revert your own change as I already add this village.link Mehmedsons (talk) 17:22, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- Done. Thank you for letting me know. TheNavigatrr (talk) 16:51, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Jabal Mihassan and Ma'an
editYou make the incorrect changes!
- Source make mention - FSA captured Mihassah, Thaniyat al-Yaridah and Thaniyah Wadhath.link If source make mention "FSA captured Mihassah" this mean village not a mountain of Jabal Mihassan.
- And we cant use pro-opp/anti-SAA source against SAA for FSA gains.link Mehmedsons (talk) 20:37, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- Seems SAA controlled the Battalion 559 and Rebels controlled the Jabal Khuymar and Jabal Batra according to pro-ISIS/anti-SAA source.link But the problem is that we can not use only the map as a source. Mehmedsons (talk) 23:01, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- Interestingly enough Al Masdar actually explicitly said rebels captured Jabal Muhassah in a later report. Well the control marker is correct now. TheNavigatrr (talk) 16:54, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Abu Izzadeen
editPlease avoid adding speculation of the perpetrator of the attack in London until this information has been verified. Although you did provide a single source, this didn't appear particularly reliable. For this type of update regarding a major terror attack, multiple well-known reliable news sources (AP, AFP, Reuters etc.) should be cited. Thanks, LoudLizard (📞 | contribs | ✉) 19:16, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
- How bad of me. It was the wrong suspect. Won't do it again! TheNavigatrr (talk) 16:54, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Shaizar
editYou mast roll back this edit and use reliabe source if you hafe such source.link We cant use biased anti-SAA/pro-opp sources for the rebel gains and for chages against SAA. Markito is it amateur a biased anti-SAA source. Mehmedsons (talk) 11:55, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
- Oftentimes there is no other source for changes like these, as pro-government source don't report their minor losses sometimes. Oh well. TheNavigatrr (talk) 16:55, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Outdated sources!
editYou should be careful about using outdated sources! You use outdated source for 27 Februarylink for changelink But all villages which was noted at this source was retaken SAA just at 8 March.linklinklinklinklink Many problems with outdated sources! Mehmedsons (talk) 16:51, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
- Interesting that all of the sources you cite are either maps or biased pro-government sources... TheNavigatrr (talk) 00:22, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
- Al Masdar is it a crediable local source and in article the anti-SAA source Step News confirmed that some of these villages taken SAA not SDF. Mehmedsons (talk) 07:45, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- Al Masdar is not always reliable. They've had terrible information about control of villages in the past. And you're edit of SDF villages to SAA near Khasfa was based on a map! This is not allowed via rules. TheNavigatrr (talk) 16:49, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Suwayda
editSOHR say both side advance after ISIL completely withdrawal but without any indicating the points captured by both sides.link But Bosno directly contradict it. Bosno made is incorrect report. I dont trust that only one of sides(SAA or FSA) captured whole area at east of Suwayda after ISIS fleed. Mehmedsons (talk) 16:57, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
- no,i think Bosno is correct and that FSA captured the entire area.Alhanuty (talk) 17:17, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
- Hopefully this situation resolved soon and the control of the factions becomes clear. TheNavigatrr (talk) 16:58, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
§== We cant use obsolete sources! ==
I started discussion at this topic on talk page and you can take part in it. Mehmedsons (talk) 08:52, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
Why you are again use outdated and unreliable sources for edit. You are again use use outdated Twitter sources at 28 February and 2 March 2017 for change Abu Kafr but local source SOHR at the 5 March 2017 confirmed SAA controlled Abu Kahf source.link and local source Al Masdar at 2 March 2017 also confirmed it.link And you source for Arshunah and Salam Gharbi was be signed as the ureliable.link But I am not will do any actions in situation with Arshunah and Salam Gharbi. Because your source probably was right as SOHRlink also say that ISIS still controlled Barghutiyah as said your source. And I say you again we cant use obsolete sources to change control of points. Mehmedsons (talk) 07:22, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
- We cant use sources which outdated more then a year ago for addition villages near frontlin and we cant use pro-rebel sources for addition the rebels controlled villages. Qasioun news and FSA news is it the biased pro-rebel sources. And you must revert this change link we cant use source at the 1 November 2015 for addtion villages at 2017 and Christian Turner just a pro-rebel source and also outdated. If you will not stop use obsolete sources for changes I will be report about you. Mehmedsons (talk) 05:53, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- You again ignored the main reasons why I reverted your edit! We cant use pro opposition sources for add FSA controlled points. Qasioun news and FSA news is it the pro opposition sources. And we cant use too outdated sources for addition points "especially" near frontline. Mehmedsons (talk) 18:02, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- Then I will challenge Al-Masdar News as a reliable source. It is obvious to anyone that it has a major pro-government bias. That has not stopped you from making dozens of pro-government edits for the past few months based solely on this one biased news agency, who claims most rebels are Nusra and regularly mocks Idlib as a "jihadist paradise", while praising the Syrian Army and its allies. If Qasioun and local testimony isn't considered reliable, then how can this blatantly biased propaganda outlet be considered reliable? TheNavigatrr (talk) 18:09, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry man! We use Al Masdar and SOHR as crediable local sources for all edits. But we cant called FSA-News as not biased source and Qasioun News openly oppose government. But main problem that your sources too outdated. Most of your last edits was on based obsolete pro-opposition sources. And I ask you not use in future obsolete sources. Mehmedsons (talk) 18:33, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- Just because the sources are from a year or more ago, doesn't mean that the rebels don't control these villages. If we're going to discount all sources from more than a year ago, half the map would be gone. Is that what you want? TheNavigatrr (talk) 18:38, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- And again your not try to understud! No need to addition villages too close of frontline on based obsolete or pro-opposition sources. Is it a very delicate matter and can provoke a lot of problems. Mehmedsons (talk) 18:58, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- The notion of these sources being obsolete implies that there are newer sources that have contradictory information. There aren't, therefore we should use these. Also, these aren't really pro-opposition sources. If Al-Masdar News is considered a reliable source, then these can also be considered reliable sources. TheNavigatrr (talk) 19:12, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- If we use one (partialy pro-SAA) local source Al Masdar as crediable is it not mean that we can use any pro-oppositon sources as crediable. And we use (partialy pro-opp.) local source SOHR as crediable. On based you logic we can take any outdated sources for addition villages, hills or others at any places. We can only justifed such action if these points deep inside (SAA/FSA/JaN/ISIS/SDF) controlled area, not very close to the frontline. Mehmedsons (talk) 19:23, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
Abu Hamdah and Tal Jayer
editAbu Hamdah is also ISIS-Held.Alhanuty (talk) 19:30, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- And pro-SDF source at 15 June claimed that some villages south of Kabiba Oil Field still disputed.link Mehmedsons (talk) 19:43, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
Kellaz
editMaybe it was bad idea add at map Kellaz on based source at 16 June 2016? Because several pro opposition sources at 10 June 2017 claim is it a conflicting zone.linklink Maybe need a fresh source which can confirm who controls this village? Mehmedsons (talk) 19:13, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
- The rebels control the village. There are no sources saying the government controls it. Frontline footage confirms this. TheNavigatrr (talk) 19:59, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
- I just assumed this village disputed and nothing more. Because at the beginning of June pro-opposition sources claimed about clashes at perimetr of this village. Mehmedsons (talk) 06:23, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
Qasioun News
editQasioun News is it a too biased anti-SAA source and we cant use him for ISIS or FSA/JaN gains against the SAA. Is it the same if we will use for SAA gains the biased sources as Al Manar, Al Mayadeen, South Front, Fars News, SANA and many other similar sources. We agreed use partialy pro-SAA source Al Masdar as crediable local source for all gains and also partialy pro-opposition SOHR for all gains. Mehmedsons (talk) 05:59, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Al Masdar News is it a too biased anti-FSA source and we can't use him for SAA or Hezbollah gains against FSA. Be crediable local source! TheNavigatrr (talk) 12:42, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Al Masdar partialy pro-SAA source and we use him for all gains as partialy pro-opp SOHR for all gains. Mehmedsons (talk) 12:54, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Al Masdar published mostly a crediable data and many times denied unconfirmed data from pro-SAA sources. Al Masdar a crediable source such as SOHR and it was agreed earlier. Qasioun News is it a too biased pro-opp. source such as pro-SAA Al Mayadeen or Fars News which many times publish unconirmed and conflicting data. We can use Qasioun News for addition the FSA/JaN controlled villages, hills and others inside the FSA/JaN controlled areas. Mehmedsons (talk) 13:02, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Hanibal/Deonis, you really need to learn how to speak English good. TheNavigatrr (talk) 13:04, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Al Masdar published mostly a crediable data and many times denied unconfirmed data from pro-SAA sources. Al Masdar a crediable source such as SOHR and it was agreed earlier. Qasioun News is it a too biased pro-opp. source such as pro-SAA Al Mayadeen or Fars News which many times publish unconirmed and conflicting data. We can use Qasioun News for addition the FSA/JaN controlled villages, hills and others inside the FSA/JaN controlled areas. Mehmedsons (talk) 13:02, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- One of blocked user Pbfreespace3 at last year accuse me that I am a sock of Hanibal/Deonis maybe it was you? Mehmedsons (talk) 13:18, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- So maybe we need ask admins to check you? I know that my English is not a good but its not a reason to insult me or accuse that I am a SOCK. You are should be ashamed of your behavior. Mehmedsons (talk) 13:31, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- I don't know about Pbfreespace3, but I can see why this user accused you of being him. It seems to me you use the same broken English he did, edit the map constantly and regularly, and are consistently pro-government in your view, always using Al-Masdar and other pro-government sources to make your edits. TheNavigatrr (talk) 14:07, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- Also, "I am a SOCK." - Mehmedsons, 13 July 2017 TheNavigatrr (talk) 14:09, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- So maybe we need ask admins to check you? I know that my English is not a good but its not a reason to insult me or accuse that I am a SOCK. You are should be ashamed of your behavior. Mehmedsons (talk) 13:31, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- I use the crediable (partialy pro-SAA) Al Masdar for SAA gains as well as the crediable (partialy pro-opposition) SOHR for FSA/JaN/ISIS gains and sometimes I use some of pro-SAA sources for ISIS/SDF/FSA advance but not SAA. Mehmedsons (talk) 14:30, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- If I use Al Masdar is it not mean that I am SOCK. You also use a lot sources that previously used Pbfreespace3 and his "SOCK" Coneleir! So maybe is it just a coincidence or not? Al Masdar a very popular source such like and many others and its used by anyone who make changes at map. Mehmedsons (talk) 14:53, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
No size limit anymore for Module:Syrian Civil War detailed map =
editHi, there is no size limit anymore for Module:Syrian Civil War detailed map as only Module:Syrian Civil War overview map is included in the largest multi-country maps-modules So we do not need to remove anymore villages or places from Module:Syrian Civil War detailed map and can make it as complete as we want. Kind regards --Niele~enwiki (talk) 00:53, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
source
editcan you provide me with a working link for the source that you used to add additional euphrates river villages along the euphrates.Alhanuty (talk) 06:30, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
- Both links should be working just fine. One was an old report about tribal allegiances in the rebel conflict with ISIS, and the other from TASS talking about ISIS killing some civilians in those towns. TheNavigatrr (talk) 03:52, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
Source @Raqqa_SL anti SAA source
editThe (@Raqqa_SL) the clear anti-SAA source and does not hide this. And we cant use it against SAA. Mehmedsons (talk) 17:55, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
TheMoroccanBaathist-pro ISIS source
editWe cant use TheMoroccanBaathist against SAA as he is pro-Saddam Baathist and pro-ISIS! We know that most of supporters of Saddam and the Baath Party in Iraq also support ISIS against Syrian and Iraqi government. And most of his data from ISIS or some other unreliale sources. Mehmedsons (talk) 13:41, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
Cities and towns during the Syrian Civil War
editPlease see my post at WP:VPT#Article with 201 unverifiable references due to exceeding the 2 MB template include size. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 07:58, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
Qahira
editPro-Opposition source said rebels taken Qahira but the clashes renewed inside village after heavy shelling and strikes.linklink So you need revert your edit because earlier I marked this village as disputed!this my edit Mehmedsons (talk) 20:06, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
Balil
editSAA controlled Balil per local sources.linklink But you source not pro-government it just at the 100% copied the data from pro-opposition source.Your source-link opposition source-link Mehmedsons (talk) 07:13, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
Syrian Rebellion Observatory
editSRO opposition pro-SDF anti SAA source. Need more crediable source. Mehmedsons (talk) 17:47, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
- DeirezZor24 anti-ISIS and anti-SAA is it explicitly stated at this source. "A group of news media social activists inside Syria covering the latest violations of the Assad regime & ISIS with live video and photos.link Mehmedsons (talk) 18:47, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
- You revert this but "Tradedia" was right in this change. As maybe is it was your made mistake at change. You prove source which not make any mention that the rebels retreated to the area north and west of Ajaz. Maybe you put the wrong link.Change:link Source:link Mehmedsons (talk) 18:57, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
- Syrian Rebellion Obs(SRO) JUST A WORD FROM AUTHOR - I'm clearly anti-Assad (as anti-Turkey invasion and anti-IS) Link:# Proceeding from this, it is necessary to indicate that this source only reliable at clashes between HTS and rebels. Mehmedsons (talk) 19:56, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
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YPG sleeper cells & resistance
editAccording to many sources including pro-YPG many of YPG infiltrated into Afrin and forming sleeper cells (resistance "Hunting Wolfs"). They many time's attacked TSK forces and TFSA. And this not a reason for any changes at map. Links: #######Mehmedsons (talk) 22:46, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, but this occurred at the very edge of rebel-held territory, not deep within the region. It was almost certainly conducted by YPG forces along the frontline. TheNavigatrr (talk) 23:19, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
- But we can't edit any villages as under joint control SAA and YPG if source not make mention about it. Source not mention that YPG have a military presence at Oqayba or Sughanah. Only that YPG attacked TFSA in Dermamishe at Afrin region. So please self-revert your edit or prove source which will make mention that YPG have a strong presence at those villages. We can't edit at based our personal guess!
Rule #3- WP:POV pushing and intentional misinterpretation of sources will not be tolerated. If you are not sure about what the source is saying (or its reliability), post it on the talk page first so that it would be discussed.Mehmedsons (talk) 12:41, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
- According a crediable local source SOHR it was the YPG sleeper cells. Link:#Mehmedsons (talk) 13:02, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
- And in the future I ask your, if you are not sure about what the your source is saying, post it on talk page first for it discussed. Mehmedsons (talk) 13:08, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
Hajin
editThe Associated Press make this news according SOHR(five days ago claimed that SDF liberated 70% of Hajin although at that time according SDF ground sources they was are 3 km to it :) and Europe-based activist Omar Abu Layla of the DeirEzzor 24(a lot of incorrect report's at past).
Latest news: Spokeswoman Lilwa al-Abdallah said that the SDF will soon capture Hajin, in eastern Syria near the Iraqi border.Military operations are ongoing to fully end Daesh….Our forces are advancing in fierce battles. Soon, we will celebrate the full liberation of Hajin from the hands of the mercenaries. The small pockets of ISIS resistance will be suppressed in the next two days. Link:# Mehmedsons (talk) 12:00, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
MENAnalyst (@jacksanders1965)
editI agree with your changes about Sheikh Issa according source: Syrian Civil War Map(@CivilWarMap) but in future I ask you not use as a source: MENAnalyst(@jacksanders1965) for any changes. It's a very unreliable source it make a lot of untrue report. I hope for you'r understanding and close cooperation.Mehmedsons (talk) 21:14, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
Important
editHi , I had reverted your edit ATQ . Please be careful while editing. When you edit review your edit first then provide information about your edit in Summary Box . 649pardeep (talk) 10:35, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Gaza–Israel clashes (May 2019)
editOn 8 May 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Gaza–Israel clashes (May 2019), which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page.
July 2019
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Hitler quote
editYou've been replacing a quote by Hitler in a number of articles with what you call the "correct quote", but isn't it, in fact, simply a different translation of the same quote? Why is your translation superior to the one already in the article?
And why did you remove citations from The Eternal Jew? Please replace them. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:03, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
- I did not actually remove any source from the article, I just removed repeated citations of the same source for every single sentence in one paragraph that only relied on that source. Here is the citation: According to WP:OVERCITE#Needless repetition, "citations should be placed at the end of the passage that they support. If one source alone supports consecutive sentences in the same paragraph, one citation of it at the end of the final sentence is sufficient. It is not necessary to include a citation for each individual consecutive sentence, as this is overkill." Regarding the quote, it is the best translation available, using the words closest to their English counterparts. In addition, the supposed quote about "bolshevization of the earth" was actually never said in the original speech (per the three sources cited on the Wiki page), but instead just added on by later translators. TheNavigatrr (talk) 02:41, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
- Do you have a source for "just added on by later translators" it seems unlikely to me. an about the quality of the translation, do you have a source for it being "the best translation available", or is that your opinion? Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:58, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
- Navigatrr--@Beyond My Ken: Please refrain from using an inferior source regarding quotes from Hitler. On the Responsibility for the Holocaust article, you reworded the translation of Alon Confino, who is a renown scholar (and the translation occurs in a Yale University Press work) for some webpage that was saved to Wayback Machine. This is not a scholarly approach and it is unmerited.--Obenritter (talk) 13:29, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
editThe Minor barnstar | |
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Copyvio at Finnish sauna
editIn July 2019, you added a copyvio tag to Finnish sauna. Having cursorily looked at the page in question (https://www.alpinesauna.com/sauna/saunas), my opinion is that it is the alpinesauna.com site that copied the content from Wikipedia and not the other way around. JIP | Talk 13:52, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
thanks for your edits
editthanks for your edits at Syrian Civil War. as you know, I've been updating the article recently. I actually prefer to have input from a few other folks as well. So I appreciate your edits. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 15:26, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you too very much! TheNavigatrr (talk) 16:33, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
Syrian map update
editHey, according to this source https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/status/1236402537793761281 assads forces took two villages, at least maarat muqwas is still shown as rebel controlled on the detailed map Norschweden (talk) 01:50, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
New York Covid cases
editThanks for putting the daily numbers up and keeping it up to date. Would you like to automate the process? I might be able to help show you how. Kd4ttc (talk) 20:24, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- I have no idea how to automate anything. There are a lot of people on Wikipedia with better knowledge of how to write a script than me, so I hope one of them does it ;) until then I'll just manually update when I feel like it. TheNavigatrr (talk) 20:25, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- Do you have a Macintosh computer or a Linux computer? I use a mac and I wrote a bash script that automates the process of pulling the data I need from the web sites. I can send you a script that would run on your machine. It's just a text file. The scripts control the curl and awk utilities, which download web pages as text and then format the results. You could run the utilities daily and generate text that you could paste into the web page. I've been looking for the New York data, but the sites I find are just one day of data. I was really happy to see you had put up the daily data going back a while. Where did you get that data? Kd4ttc (talk) 15:25, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
- Windows, and no other type of computer around. TheNavigatrr (talk) 17:48, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
- OK. The sort of automation you could learn would be to install some utilities that pull data off the web. For example, the NY health department puts out a web page at https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/county-county-breakdown-positive-cases . I use a utility named curl to pull the web page, a utility to convert the html to text, and a utility to pull out the data I want. For the NY data on a daily basis you could run:
- Do you have a Macintosh computer or a Linux computer? I use a mac and I wrote a bash script that automates the process of pulling the data I need from the web sites. I can send you a script that would run on your machine. It's just a text file. The scripts control the curl and awk utilities, which download web pages as text and then format the results. You could run the utilities daily and generate text that you could paste into the web page. I've been looking for the New York data, but the sites I find are just one day of data. I was really happy to see you had put up the daily data going back a while. Where did you get that data? Kd4ttc (talk) 15:25, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
curl -s https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/county-county-breakdown-positive-cases | html2text -nobs | grep -e 'Total Number of Positive Cases' -e 'Last Update'
- Which does: 1: use curl to pull the page, 2: converts the output of #1 from html to text, 3: shows the lines in the text that either contain the text 'Total Number of Positive Cases' or 'Last Update'. The vertical slash connects the output of the left to the input on the right, that is output of curl goes into html2text and that output goes to grep.
- When I run that short sequence I get the output:
Last Update: March 31, 2020 | 3:28PM Total Number of Positive Cases 75,795
- There a number of utilities that can ease the task of routine data extraction. For example, I use curl and awk to pull the daily country data for several nations from the worldometers.info site. There are some details on Mac/Unix vs Windows about how to run utilities. You'd need to look that up.
- I really appreciate your putting up the data in an accessible form, so I'm pointing out some html and text utilities that might let you automate some of what you're doing. Folks like you are the reason Wikipedia is great! If you think some utilities may be of use I can work out the scripts that control the utilities. It's all in text files you can examine before you run. Utilities to get include curl, html2text, grep, sed and awk. Computers can also be set up to run utilities automatically and add the output to files which you could come back to at your leisure. Let me know if it would be of use. Steve Kd4ttc (talk) 20:51, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
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editHello, I'm a fellow template map editor. I would like to know the sources you frequent for future usage. Thanks! BlookyNapsta (talk) 13:55, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
- Al-Masdar News is allowed to be used for edits on these templates, although it is a pro-Assad, pro-Houthi, pro-Haftar source. Syrian Observatory for Human Rights is allowed particularly when it reports rebel losses, since it is a pro-rebel source. Al Jazeera is allowed if it reports rebel losses. Respected agencies like BBC and The Guardian are good sources. TheNavigatrr (talk) 17:39, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
New York data
editHi. Just wondering where the data for the table will come from now that the briefings have ended? --regentspark (comment) 15:19, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
- The data for the table comes from New York State's websites for test and case numbers, deaths, and NYC/non-NYC breakdown (which also includes counties). TheNavigatrr (talk) 20:17, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
- Got it. Thanks! --regentspark (comment) 23:27, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
Recoveries
editHey, I would like to know why the recovery figure on the template is different from the one on the infobox. The figure on the infobox seems to be more accurate, so is it possible to use that in the template? --Horizon Sunset (talk) 02:31, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
- I don't think so, because the infobox figure is in reality an estimate by me (Total NY cases 15 days ago − total NY deaths as of today). That's the secret.
- I'm fairly sure the recovery figure on the template (taken from Johns Hopkins) is actually the number of hospital discharges, since NYS only reports that data and not an actual recovery estimate. Take Johns Hopkins' most recent recovery figure (72,900) and add 50% of their death toll (32658 / 2 = 16329). The math is (72,900 + 16329 = 89229). That 89,000 number? Looks just like the 89,995 they've been reporting for hospitalizations for the past month.
- I wish NY would've just reported recovery estimates in the first place, but as with Covid in the US, all the states handled it differently. Oh well. TheNavigatrr (talk) 04:17, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
- OK, thanks. And according to [1], 89995 was the number at the beginning of June. But the number of newly admitted patients since late June can be found in some news items here.--Horizon Sunset (talk) 21:14, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
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editYou updated it, which is good, many thanks, but you didn't update the references. That meant that when I tried to check it against the ref, nothing checked out. ;) You might want to fix it, but I'll have another look at it later and see if I can figure it out. Wherever possible it's best to use static references, even when I noticed it, I still haven't been able to marry up the figures yet, but I haven't tried too hard yet. GliderMaven (talk) 02:31, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- Here is the link which has these statistics. TheNavigatrr (talk) 03:01, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- OK thanks. That has slightly different figures than the link you gave in your subject line. ;) Not sure why RN. GliderMaven (talk) 05:35, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Map update on the COVID-19 in the US page
editHi! I was just wondering if you intend to update the map (the central graphic) on the COVID-19 in the United States page? I ask since you were the last to update said graphic and few other users seem to know how to update it (or aren’t authorized to). The map hasn’t been updated since May 22, so it’s been a while. Let me know your thoughts! Thematrix92498 (talk) 13:57, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
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