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Question from Mohammednuhj on Visa policy of the Schengen Area (13:13, 1 August 2024)
Mohammed Nuhu is my name I have need visa to Canada to play football also am can drive a truck to I need your help to come our Country here is on fir a lot of people are suffering also I need to put my Family at the right place --Mohammednuhj (talk) 13:13, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Mohammednuhj: That...is not what Wikipedia is for. You need to contact an immigration attorney, no one on Wikipedia can help you immigrate to Canada. Sorry. TheSandDoctor Talk 18:25, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
Question from 007Editor of History on England cricket team (17:53, 4 August 2024)
Hello, something is wrong with page "England Cricket team". I am not able to see table which is generally there on Wikipedia pages. It's source code is visible. Pls see to it as I don't know what to do or how to do. --007Editor of History (talk) 17:53, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi there, 007Editor of History! My apologies for the delayed response. It was fixed by Matt-h88 within a couple hours of your comment here. (Thanks, Matt!) --TheSandDoctor Talk 14:41, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-32
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Feature news
Two new parser functions will be available this week: {{#dir}}and{{#bcp47}}. These will reduce the need forTemplate:DirandTemplate:BCP47on Commons and allow us to drop 100 million rows from the "what links here" database. Editors at any wiki that use these templates, can help by replacing the templates with these new functions. The templates at Commons will be updated during the Hackathon at Wikimania. [1][2]- Communities can request the activation of the visual editor on entire namespaces where discussions sometimes happen (for instance Wikipedia: or Wikisource: namespaces) if they understand the known limitations. For discussions, users can already use DiscussionTools in these namespaces.
- The tracking category "Pages using Timeline" has been renamed to "Pages using the EasyTimeline extension" in TranslateWiki. Wikis that have created the category locally should rename their local creation to match.
Project updates
- Editors who help to organize WikiProjects and similar on-wiki collaborations, are invited to share ideas and examples of successful collaborations with the Campaigns and Programs teams. You can fill out a brief survey or share your thoughts on the talkpage. The teams are particularly looking for details about successful collaborations on non-English wikis.
- The new parser is being rolled out on Wikivoyage wikis over the next few months. The English Wikivoyage and Hebrew Wikivoyage were switched to Parsoid last week. For more information, see Parsoid/Parser Unification.
Learn more
- There will be more than 200 sessions at Wikimania this week. Here is a summary of some of the key sessions related to the product and technology area.
- The latest Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin is available.
- The latest quarterly Language and Internationalization newsletter is available. It includes: New design previews for Translatable pages; Updates about MinT for Wiki Readers; the release of Translation dumps; and more.
- The latest quarterly Growth newsletter is available.
- The latest monthly MediaWiki Product Insights newsletter is available.
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Administrators' newsletter – August 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2024).
Technical news
- Global blocks may now target accounts as well as IP's. Administrators may locally unblock when appropriate.
- Users wishing to permanently leave may now request "vanishing" via Special:GlobalVanishRequest. Processed requests will result in the user being renamed, their recovery email being removed, and their account being globally locked.
Arbitration
- The Arbitration Committee appointed the following administrators to the conflict of interest volunteer response team: Bilby, Extraordinary Writ
Tech News: 2024-33
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Feature news
- AbuseFilter editors and maintainers can now make a CAPTCHA show if a filter matches an edit. This allows communities to quickly respond to spamming by automated bots. [3]
- Stewards can now specify if global blocks should prevent account creation. Before this change by the Trust and Safety Product Team, all global blocks would prevent account creation. This will allow stewards to reduce the unintended side-effects of global blocks on IP addresses.
Project updates
- Nominations are open on Wikitech for new members to refresh the Toolforge standards committee. The committee oversees the Toolforge Right to fork policy and Abandoned tool policy among other duties. Nominations will remain open until at least 2024-08-26.
- One new wiki has been created: a Wikipedia in West Coast Bajau (
w:bdr:) [4]
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Question from Arum Sekar Kinanthi (05:40, 13 August 2024)
I am going to post an information in Indonesian language. What should I do? --Arum Sekar Kinanthi (talk) 05:40, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Arum Sekar Kinanthi: Do you mean that you want to write content in Indonesian or reference Indonesian language sources on the English Wikipedia? If you want to write content in Indonesian, then you want to go to the Indonesian Wikipedia (that link will take you right there). If you want to cite Indonesian language sources (but write content in English) on the English Wikipedia, you can certainly do that. If I am misunderstanding your question, please let me know. TheSandDoctor Talk 05:44, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-34
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Feature news
- Editors who want to re-use references but with different details such as page numbers, will be able to do so by the end of 2024, using a new sub-referencing feature. You can read more about the project and how to test the prototype.
- Editors using tracking categories to identify which pages use specific extensions may notice that six of the categories have been renamed to make them more easily understood and consistent. These categories are automatically added to pages that use specialized MediaWiki extensions. The affected names are for: DynamicPageList, Kartographer, Phonos, RSS, Score, WikiHiero. Wikis that have created the category locally should rename their local creation to match. Thanks to Pppery for these improvements. [5]
- Technical volunteers who edit modules and want to get a list of the categories used on a page, can now do so using the
categoriesproperty ofmw.title objects. This enables wikis to configure workflows such as category-specific edit notices. Thanks to SD001 for these improvements. [6][7]
Bugs status
- Your help is needed to check if any pages need to be moved or deleted. A maintenance script was run to clean up unreachable pages (due to Unicode issues or introduction of new namespaces/namespace aliases). The script tried to find appropriate names for the pages (e.g. by following the Unicode changes or by moving pages whose titles on Wikipedia start with
Talk:WP:so that their titles start withWikipedia talk:), but it may have failed for some pages, and moved them to Special:PrefixIndex/T195546/ instead. Your community should check if any pages are listed there, and move them to the correct titles, or delete them if they are no longer needed. A full log (including pages for which appropriate names could be found) is available in phab:P67388. - Editors who volunteer as mentors to newcomers on their wiki are once again able to access lists of potential mentees who they can connect with to offer help and guidance. This functionality was restored thanks to a bug fix. Thank you to Mbch331 for filing the bug report. You can read about that, and 18 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
Project updates
- The application deadline for the Product & Technology Advisory Council (PTAC) has been extended to September 16. Members will help by providing advice to Foundation Product and Technology leadership on short and long term plans, on complex strategic problems, and help to get feedback from more contributors and technical communities. Selected members should expect to spend roughly 5 hours per month for the Council, during the one year pilot. Please consider applying, and spread the word to volunteers you think would make a positive contribution to the committee.
Learn more
- The 2024 Coolest Tool Awards were awarded at Wikimania, in seven categories. For example, one award went to the ISA Tool, used for adding structured data to files on Commons, which was recently improved during the Wiki Mentor Africa Hackathon. You can see video demonstrations of each tool at the awards page. Congratulations to this year's recipients, and thank you to all tool creators and maintainers.
- The latest Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin is available, and includes some highlights from Wikimania, an upcoming Language community meeting, and other news from the movement.
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"Trayaurus" listed at Redirects for discussion
The redirect Trayaurus has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 21 § Trayaurus until a consensus is reached. I am RedoStone (talk) 20:07, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
"Dr. Trayaurus" listed at Redirects for discussion
The redirect Dr. Trayaurus has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 21 § Dr. Trayaurus until a consensus is reached. I am RedoStone (talk) 20:08, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
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Tech News: 2024-35
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Feature news
- Administrators can now test the temporary accounts feature on test2wiki. This was done to allow cross-wiki testing of temporary accounts, for when temporary accounts switch between projects. The feature was enabled on testwiki a few weeks ago. No further temporary account deployments are scheduled yet. Temporary Accounts is a project to create a new type of user account that replaces IP addresses of unregistered editors which are no longer made public. Please share your opinions and questions on the project talk page.
- Later this week, editors at wikis that use FlaggedRevs (also known as "Pending Changes") may notice that the indicators at the top of articles have changed. This change makes the system more consistent with the rest of the MediaWiki interface. [8]
Bugs status
- Editors who use the 2010 wikitext editor, and use the Character Insert buttons, will no longer experience problems with the buttons adding content into the edit-summary instead of the edit-window. You can read more about that, and 26 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
Project updates
Please review and vote on Focus Areas, which are groups of wishes that share a problem. Focus Areas were created for the newly reopened Community Wishlist, which is now open year-round for submissions. The first batch of focus areas are specific to moderator workflows, around welcoming newcomers, minimizing repetitive tasks, and prioritizing tasks. Once volunteers have reviewed and voted on focus areas, the Foundation will then review and select focus areas for prioritization.- Do you have a project and are willing to provide a three (3) month mentorship for an intern? Outreachy is a twice a year program for people to participate in a paid internship that will start in December 2024 and end in early March 2025, and they need mentors and projects to work on. Projects can be focused on coding or non-coding (design, documentation, translation, research). See the Outreachy page for more details, and a list of past projects since 2013.
Learn more
- If you're curious about the product and technology improvements made by the Wikimedia Foundation last year, read this recent highlights summary on Diff.
- To learn more about the technology behind the Wikimedia projects, you can now watch sessions from the technology track at Wikimania 2024 on Commons. This week, check out:
- Community Configuration - Shaping On-Wiki Functionality Together (55 mins) - about the Community Configuration project.
- Future of MediaWiki. A sustainable platform to support a collaborative user base and billions of page views (30 mins) - an overview for both technical and non technical audiences, covering some of the challenges and open questions, related to the platform evolution, stewardship and developer experiences research.
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Question from Ilianeudecker (18:06, 30 July 2024)
Hello! I have just created a new page about my father, Heinz Neudecker. When will it be publicly accessible? How can I add content later on? Hope you can help! Thanks & best wishes, ilia --Ilianeudecker (talk) 18:06, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Ilianeudecker. Currently? It won't be picked up by Google or other search engines as it isn't publicly indexed. I fixed up some of the formatting on Draft:Heinz Neudecker for you. However, I would recommend reviewing our policy on conflicts of interest (you inherently have one with your father that should be declared), this guide to writing your first article, this guide on getting started with references, and WP:ANYBIO (as a baseline for this notability guideline). Writings by your father don't help towards establishing "notability".
- You'll have to demonstrate that the article subject is wiki-"notable" by demonstrating in-depth coverage in multiple secondary sources that are reliable and intellectually independent. This page might help shed a bit of light. I would, however, strongly recommend reading the short essay "an article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing". While it doesn't directly apply and I by no means intend to cast any aspersions or implications against your father, it is something that should be kept in mind if you are able to establish wiki "notability"; you don't keep control of the article one bit or necessarily what ends up on it, provided that whatever is added is reliably sourced and complies with other policies. TheSandDoctor Talk 14:37, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hello! Thank you for your suggestions. I will follow these up.
- As to notoriety: my father is considered by many people in the field of matrix diiferential calculus to be the founding father of this field. There are many scientific papers referencing my father's work. It was suggested by a professor in Canberra who works in the same field to write a wikipedia article. I have the time, he doesn't.
- As to my objectivity: I am a qualified historian and can take an objective view. I do not idolise my father in this article as you might be able to see.
- But if the family relationship works against my working on this, Professor Shuang Zhe Liu will take over the draft.
- I have found several biographical articles on wikipedia that do not meet the objectivity criteria, but idealise the person in question, so the enforcement does not seem to be strict. I have reviewed one or two.
- Best wishes,
- ilia Ilianeudecker (talk) 09:41, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Ilianeudecker: Based on what you've said the appropriate notability guideline might actually be WP:NACADEMIC. I understand that you may be able to take an objective view and nothing bars you from writing it yourself or demonstrating notability, it is just strongly advised against editing an article in which you may have a conflict of interest. As the policy page states, "someone having a conflict of interest is a description of a situation, not a judgment about that person's opinions, integrity, or good faith." (It explicitly identifies family as falling within the conflict of interest scope.) In no way am I intending to cast any aspersions of any sort against yourself or your father, just giving general advice I would give anyone who asked about writing an article about someone close to them.
- If you can demonstrate widespread attribution of him as the father of his field as you say, I offhand don't see why there wouldn't be a potential Wikipedia article here as that would seemingly satisfy criterion 1 and, possibly, 4 of NACADEMIC, provided it could be backed up by independent reliable sources (these can include peer-reviewed scientific papers, journal articles etc., so long as they're independent of your father).
- When it comes to other articles, if you spot ones that need work you can call attention to them (Wikipedia:Tagging pages for problems) or help improve them or, if you believe they do not meet the notability guidelines, nominate them for deletion. WP:OTHERSTUFF does somewhat apply but Wikipedia is also a tertiary source that, for better or worse, reflects the biases of secondary sources in terms of what gets coverage where, when, and how. For example, if the coverage around an individual considers them effectively a saint and nothing has come out (in reliable sources) otherwise that would satisfy the due weight criteria (WP:BLP and other policies as applicable), Wikipedia will inherently reflect how the sources talk about that subject, though ideally striving to do so in an neutral way with neutral language. TheSandDoctor Talk 05:37, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! Currently travelling, so no time to log in 2A00:BBA0:1112:5100:2B2D:1311:1F94:ACE6 (talk) 06:23, 30 August 2024 (UTC)