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Latest comment: 2 months ago by 2A00:BBA0:1112:5100:2B2D:1311:1F94:ACE6 in topic Question from Ilianeudecker (18:06, 30 July 2024)


Question from Mohammednuhj on Visa policy of the Schengen Area (13:13, 1 August 2024)

Mohammed Nuhu is my name I have need visa to Canada to play football also am can drive a truck to I need your help to come our Country here is on fir a lot of people are suffering also I need to put my Family at the right place --Mohammednuhj (talk) 13:13, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

@Mohammednuhj: That...is not what Wikipedia is for. You need to contact an immigration attorney, no one on Wikipedia can help you immigrate to Canada. Sorry. TheSandDoctor Talk 18:25, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from 007Editor of History on England cricket team (17:53, 4 August 2024)

Hello, something is wrong with page "England Cricket team". I am not able to see table which is generally there on Wikipedia pages. It's source code is visible. Pls see to it as I don't know what to do or how to do. --007Editor of History (talk) 17:53, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi there, 007Editor of History! My apologies for the delayed response. It was fixed by Matt-h88 within a couple hours of your comment here. (Thanks, Matt!) --TheSandDoctor Talk 14:41, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – August 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2024).

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  • Global blocks may now target accounts as well as IP's. Administrators may locally unblock when appropriate.
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Question from Arum Sekar Kinanthi (05:40, 13 August 2024)

I am going to post an information in Indonesian language. What should I do? --Arum Sekar Kinanthi (talk) 05:40, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Arum Sekar Kinanthi: Do you mean that you want to write content in Indonesian or reference Indonesian language sources on the English Wikipedia? If you want to write content in Indonesian, then you want to go to the Indonesian Wikipedia (that link will take you right there). If you want to cite Indonesian language sources (but write content in English) on the English Wikipedia, you can certainly do that. If I am misunderstanding your question, please let me know. TheSandDoctor Talk 05:44, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

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Question from Ilianeudecker (18:06, 30 July 2024)

Hello! I have just created a new page about my father, Heinz Neudecker. When will it be publicly accessible? How can I add content later on? Hope you can help! Thanks & best wishes, ilia --Ilianeudecker (talk) 18:06, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi Ilianeudecker. Currently? It won't be picked up by Google or other search engines as it isn't publicly indexed. I fixed up some of the formatting on Draft:Heinz Neudecker for you. However, I would recommend reviewing our policy on conflicts of interest (you inherently have one with your father that should be declared), this guide to writing your first article, this guide on getting started with references, and WP:ANYBIO (as a baseline for this notability guideline). Writings by your father don't help towards establishing "notability".
You'll have to demonstrate that the article subject is wiki-"notable" by demonstrating in-depth coverage in multiple secondary sources that are reliable and intellectually independent. This page might help shed a bit of light. I would, however, strongly recommend reading the short essay "an article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing". While it doesn't directly apply and I by no means intend to cast any aspersions or implications against your father, it is something that should be kept in mind if you are able to establish wiki "notability"; you don't keep control of the article one bit or necessarily what ends up on it, provided that whatever is added is reliably sourced and complies with other policies. TheSandDoctor Talk 14:37, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
Hello! Thank you for your suggestions. I will follow these up.
As to notoriety: my father is considered by many people in the field of matrix diiferential calculus to be the founding father of this field. There are many scientific papers referencing my father's work. It was suggested by a professor in Canberra who works in the same field to write a wikipedia article. I have the time, he doesn't.
As to my objectivity: I am a qualified historian and can take an objective view. I do not idolise my father in this article as you might be able to see.
But if the family relationship works against my working on this, Professor Shuang Zhe Liu will take over the draft.
I have found several biographical articles on wikipedia that do not meet the objectivity criteria, but idealise the person in question, so the enforcement does not seem to be strict. I have reviewed one or two.
Best wishes,
ilia Ilianeudecker (talk) 09:41, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
@Ilianeudecker: Based on what you've said the appropriate notability guideline might actually be WP:NACADEMIC. I understand that you may be able to take an objective view and nothing bars you from writing it yourself or demonstrating notability, it is just strongly advised against editing an article in which you may have a conflict of interest. As the policy page states, "someone having a conflict of interest is a description of a situation, not a judgment about that person's opinions, integrity, or good faith." (It explicitly identifies family as falling within the conflict of interest scope.) In no way am I intending to cast any aspersions of any sort against yourself or your father, just giving general advice I would give anyone who asked about writing an article about someone close to them.
If you can demonstrate widespread attribution of him as the father of his field as you say, I offhand don't see why there wouldn't be a potential Wikipedia article here as that would seemingly satisfy criterion 1 and, possibly, 4 of NACADEMIC, provided it could be backed up by independent reliable sources (these can include peer-reviewed scientific papers, journal articles etc., so long as they're independent of your father).
When it comes to other articles, if you spot ones that need work you can call attention to them (Wikipedia:Tagging pages for problems) or help improve them or, if you believe they do not meet the notability guidelines, nominate them for deletion. WP:OTHERSTUFF does somewhat apply but Wikipedia is also a tertiary source that, for better or worse, reflects the biases of secondary sources in terms of what gets coverage where, when, and how. For example, if the coverage around an individual considers them effectively a saint and nothing has come out (in reliable sources) otherwise that would satisfy the due weight criteria (WP:BLP and other policies as applicable), Wikipedia will inherently reflect how the sources talk about that subject, though ideally striving to do so in an neutral way with neutral language. TheSandDoctor Talk 05:37, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Thank you! Currently travelling, so no time to log in 2A00:BBA0:1112:5100:2B2D:1311:1F94:ACE6 (talk) 06:23, 30 August 2024 (UTC)