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Please do not make significant edits without explanation. Explain on the article talk page what your concerns are. Quis separabit? 18:27, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Reply

Because, for starters (and this may be expanded):

1. Seeberville Murders is an incomplete, garbled, agitprop-ridden excerpt that belongs in the Copper Country Strike of 1913–1914 article which ends like the end of a chapter, not the narrative. The article is filled with POV and OR text, which cannot stand. If you can't improve the article soon and make it into an article that deserves to stand alone, I am going to merge it with the Copper Country Strike of 1913–1914 article.
2. Nobody owns any article on Wikipedia.Quis separabit? 18:46, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Copper Country Strike of 1913–1914

OK, glad we settled the other article for now but you still haven't explained what your problems are with my edits (see [1]) on the Copper Country article, which by the way needs better sourcing. There's a lot of unreferenced claims. Quis separabit? 18:52, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Well, these sections/paragraphs are unsourced:

*While most of the early mines failed, a few became successful, and eventually several major mines became established. The Copper Country quickly became the first major copper mining region in the United States. By 1913, the majority of copper in the Copper Country was produced by three companies: the Calumet and Hecla Mining Company, by far the largest and richest mine in the Copper Country, as well as the Quincy Mine and the mines owned by the Copper Range Company.
*In this system, miners formed working groups (usually consisting of family members) which then contracted with mine operators to perform specific mining activities. Typically, miners were paid by the cubic fathom of mine rock extracted, at rates designated in their contracts.
*Several major issues contributed to the strike of 1913–14. Many were related to the operation of the mines, but some were also social issues which had risen in the public consciousness in the United States at the time. The Copper Country copper mines operated a heavily paternalistic system, in which the mines watched closely over workers' lives both in and out of the mines. Historically, this developed for several reasons. Early mines in the distant Keweenaw wilderness had no nearby towns to supply their needs, and so the mines provided all services themselves. Most mines provided housing and schooling for miners and their families, as well as doctors, hospitalization, and even the construction of roads. Houses were assigned with preference to miners and other skilled laborers (as opposed to trammers), and to men with families (as opposed to single men).
*By 1913, mines were beginning to replace two man drills with "one man drills", which required only one man to operate and move. Miners had two major issues with the one man drill. First, the drill broke apart the historical family mining teams, leaving miners unemployed and bringing less income into a family. Second, a miner with a one-man drill operated alone. Any accidents which happened were likely to go undiscovered until many hours later, whereas under the old system a family member would be nearby to help.
*Miners in the Keweenaw were not unionized until just before the 1913 strike. Several wildcat strikes had occurred in previous years, but these were done only at individual mines, and usually involved only one group of workers (especially trammers, who were paid less than miners for physically intensive work). In the late 19th century and early 20th century, several unions had attempted to organize locals within the Copper Country, but none of them succeeded. All unions were strongly opposed by the mine owners. The Western Federation of Miners (WFM) began organizing miners in the Copper Country in 1912. The pressing issues of wages, hours, and the one-man drill encouraged many miners to join the union, and the WFM quickly founded many locals. These locals and WFM organizers began calling for shorter working days, higher wages, and the return of the two-man drill.
*The strike was the first strike to hit all Copper Country mines. After the first day of the strike, nearly all mines in the district were closed down, with mobs of strikers blocking access to the mines. Miners held daily parades to boost morale and show their strength. The mine owners, organized and led by James MacNaughton, manager of the Calumet and Hecla mining company, called for state governor Woodbridge Ferris to deploy national guard troops to keep the peace. The governor did so, which led to many confrontations, some violent, between strikers and troops.
*At the same time, miners were struggling from lack of pay and supplies. The strike was very costly for the WFM, which provided support to strikers based on need and family size. The WFM's coffers quickly emptied, leaving many miners and families living in poverty. A large number of families left the region entirely, looking for more work in the newly developing industrial centers of Detroit and Chicago. As the winter of 1913 began, the strike was weakening significantly.
Quis separabit? 21:35, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

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One cannot use Wikipedia as a reference. Wikipedia is unreliable because anybody can edit. One cannot use unreliable refs. Stop your reverting. Bgwhite (talk) 03:37, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

I have protected the page so you cannot edit it. If you continue to add Wikipedia refs, you will be blocked. Read WP:USERGENERATED. When you finally understand this, the page will be unprotected. Bgwhite (talk) 01:36, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

I only respond where the discussion got started. Most editors are this way. I will ONLY respond here and will remove any message on my talk page about this subject. Once again, you cannot use ANY link to Wikipedia as a ref. Wikipedia is unreliable as it is contains user generated content. This is also the same with blogs, forums, newsgroup and other selfpublished material. The link I gave even said to not use Wikipedia as a ref. Bgwhite (talk) 05:38, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Library stabbing

Sorry about the hoax report. I have rescinded it and you can carry on. There was no international coverage, so I assumed it may have been made up.

Note the wording of the report says "MAY" be a hoax, not "IS" a hoax.

Have a nice day, GammaRadiator (talk) 01:46, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

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RE: Seeberville Murders

The page is unprotected tomorrow (18 July). I recommend we discuss the article and anything objectionable. I am not going to engage in edit warring with you but will make reports as necessary. Given your refusal to comment at the report which was opened at ANI by me which resulted in the article being protected in the first place (see [2]), I am not sure if you are capable of engaging in good faith on this article which, regardless of what you say, I believe you feel ownership over. The article was reverted by the admin who protected it, to the "last stable edit", which was my last edit. If you revert before we discuss I will have no choice but to file a new report at ANI. Again, I recommend we discuss before editing. Feel free to contact me at my talk page. Yours, Quis separabit? 14:48, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

As I said, we need to discuss issues before you make any wholesale reverts. Also, you cannot just add reams of text which you have copied and pasted from other websites, as this CAN CREATE copyright issues, which can be a very serious issue (see WP:COPYRIGHT, WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASING). Yours, Quis separabit? 16:06, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Most of your reference links are broken and unformatted; nothing to do, by the way, in case you decide to start accusing me, with my editing (see diff of your last edit (see here). Also, view this (your last edit), which clearly shows the broken and non-existent redlinked reflinks. If you re-start an edit war, I will report you again. Do not revert wholesale -- review the edits made by other editors first, you may even agree. And you still have serious ownership issues, in my opinion. Quis separabit? 18:38, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Camp Lahti for deletion

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http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/what-if-finland-had-been-prepared-for-the-winter-war.185434/

You added "Within the Spring of 1918, the Finnish Whites dispatched two expeditions, which later merged together to create one expedition. One of these two expeditions had about one-hundred men and was led by Dr. Thorsten Renvall, the brother of Senator Heikki Renvall, who was leading the Senate of Finland in Vaasa during theFinnish Civil War. The other expedition was financed by businessmen and was known as Lapin rakuunat (English: "the Dragoons of Lapland"). This group was also led by a doctor, Onni Laitinen"

Ref says In the spring of 1918, the Finns sent two expeditions, which later joined together. One of these two expeditions had a strength of about 100 men and was lead by Dr. Thorsten Renvall (brother of Senator Heikki Renvall, who was the leader of the Finnish Senate aka the Finnish Government in Vaasa during Civil War). The other expedition was financed by businessmen, and was known as Lapin Rakuunat (The Dragoons of Lapland) and was also lead by a doctor - Onni Laitinen.

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