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Reverting without warnings

Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made: you may already know about them, but you might find Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Thank you. [Sorry for templating you. I know you are aware but I noticed you had not been using these recently.] ElENdElA (talk) 19:58, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Apologies @ElENdElA, but I was using SWViewer which does not automatically place user warnings upon reverting. I have forgiven you. Toadette^Edit! 20:01, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Did not think I needed to be forgiven! WP:TW may be better for you. ElENdElA (talk) 20:06, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

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re: reliable sources help

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Zurolo (surname)

Dear reviewer, I forward you the text that I wrote to you and sent under the discussion page of the ''non-approval of the Zurolo article (surname)''^: I am very surprised by the fact that my draft which has been in preparation for months has been further rejected, among other things, it is rich in content and I even recovered it from a ''historical book'', with respect to the surname Zurlo or some other Italian guy there's a lot that I highlighted in the draft. It is true that I have included secondary sources but mainly, I have also highlighted and cited the ''official sources'', as you can see. I wanted to ask you now, if possible, to transfer the information from this draft in progress to the Zurlo page on Wikipedia, here it is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zurlo, perhaps we will enrich this and delete the draft. GiovAngri (talk) 09:50, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

GiovAngri, as a suggestion, go move all the content of the draft to the article, provided that you give attribution (see Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia), then you can tag it with {{db-g7}}. Toadette^Edit! 21:01, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Grand Hotel (Locarno)

Hi, I removed the "reviewed" mark because there are some copyright issues with the page, see copyvio report Broc (talk) 20:53, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

hanks for the heads up. I am too tired now, should check for copyvios next time. Toadette^Edit! 20:55, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

No worries. It's easy to forget but it's one of the key aspects of WP:NPP :) Broc (talk) 21:01, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins

Hi there! Phase I of the Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:

• Proposals 2 and 9b (phase II discussion): Add a reminder of civility norms at RfA and Require links for claims of specific policy violations
• Proposal 3b (in trial): Make the first two days discussion-only
• Proposal 13 (in trial): Admin elections
• Proposal 14 (implemented): Suffrage requirements
• Proposals 16 and 16c (phase II discussion): Allow the community to initiate recall RfAs and Community recall process based on dewiki
• Proposal 17 (phase II discussion): Have named Admins/crats to monitor infractions
• Proposal 24 (phase II discussion): Provide better mentoring for becoming an admin and the RfA process
• Proposal 25 (implemented): Require nominees to be extended confirmed

See the project page for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. theleekycauldron (talk), via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:09, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Question about your 9b close

Hey there, Toadette! The 9b close is up for some discussion at RFA2024 phase II, and i just wanted to ask you to clarify something: when you closed 9b, did you find consensus to exempt RfA from any civility enforcement against aspersions that don't directly allege policy violations? See this thread for context, your input would be appreciated :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 00:57, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

89.9% Copyright violation in an AfC you accepted: Tadeusz Słobodzianek

Hello Toadette, I noticed that one of the articles you recently accepted at AfC has an 89.9% copyright violation; the article is Tadeusz Słobodzianek. I checked another one also, National Picture Theatre, Kingston upon Hull which has 25%.

Could you please make certain to check for COPYVIOS when working at AfC? Thank you, Netherzone (talk) 04:06, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

@Netherzone, this was the second time I have been brought up with this issue. I will really be checking Earwig's tool. I haven't accepted or reviewed the latter though. Thanks for the heads up! Toadette^Edit! 04:59, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Talk page stalker here. @Netherzone I do not think the 89.9% similarity in Tadeusz Słobodzianek amounts to copyright violation. The copied material is merely a list of awards, which have little to no original content in it. A high percentage in Earwig does not automatically constitute a copyvio. What do you think? Broc (talk) 06:15, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

@User:Broc I think it's best practices to check for and remedy copyvios and close paraphrasing, esp. when Earwig's tool identifies exactly where that is in the article. It's usually a fix that can be made by sending a note to the article creator, or the reviewer themself making the fixes before accepting the draft. In this case the part of the article which is problematic is in the plays that are listed between 1983 and 2011 which is word-for-word copy-pasting with just a few words changed.

The "extra step" of running the draft thru a COPYVIO detector should be part of the review process. It's so easy to do! I don't know if the use of AI will make copyvio issues worse or better, but I think an eye should be kept out.

@ToadetteEdit, thanks for letting us know that you didn't review the second one. (I must have read that incorrectly, sorry!) I've struck that comment. Hope all is well! Netherzone (talk) 11:52, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

@Netherzone maybe what I meant is not clear. There is simply no copyright in a list of awards, as it lacks the threshold of originality. Rewriting the list will still make it look awfully close to the original anyway, as the name of the awards are fixed.

P.S.: it's not sufficient to just send a note to the creator as you mention. Infringing material should be immediately removed and a request for WP:REVDEL added to the page. Just in this case, there is no infringement whatsoever. Broc (talk) 12:44, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

@Broc, I hear what you are saying, however it's not just a list of awards, it is a list plus the following descriptions of each that has been copy-pasted. There are several ways to avoid close paraphrasing or copyvio in this case. The article creator could have selected the most notable ones, and written them up in a fully sourced prose paragraph using their own words; they could have formatted the list differently and written their own descriptions, they could have researched the specific works that received the award and expanded upon that, etc. As it is, itza copypasta!

BTW, I've brought this to the attention of Toadette precisely because I want her to succeed, not to be arbitrarily critical. I think she also wants to succeed and be the best editor she can be and hopefully run for promotion again in the future, which I hope she does. Netherzone (talk) 13:06, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Hook (2022 TV series)

You just reviewed this article and moved it to the main NS. However, upon examining the article, it doesn't appear to meet WP:N criteria yet. The article lacks citations from WP:RS. I'm curious about the basis of your review. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 12:30, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Similar concerns arise with Wonderland (Pakistani TV series). Please exercise caution when reviewing articles concerning Pakistani TV dramas, films, and actors. There are serial socks creating paid articles in this domain using questionable references. --—Saqib (talk | contribs) 12:49, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Saqib, what do you mean by the socks? How are the sources unreliable? Toadette^Edit! 18:40, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

There've been some WP:SOCKFARM (Nauman335, Pakistanpedia and Bttowadch to name a few) busy creating BLPs for Pakistani actors and Pakistani TV shows/films who aren't really WP:N. Both Hook (2022 TV series) and Wonderland (Pakistani TV series) using not-so-reliable sources like The Azb, Howbiz Fashion, Cutacut Hum Sab, Review it, Effie Pakistan, Niche, Social Diary, Galaxy Lollywood, Fuchsia, Minutes Mirror, The Brown Identity and Pakistani. These sites aren't exactly WP:RS - most of them are into churning out gossip and WP:PROMO than journalism. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 19:08, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

ReviewIt and Fuchia Magazine are certainly unreliable. Looking at The Brown Identity, their About us page states "The Brown Identity is a space for everyone to talk about what they like, don’t like, what they wish they could talk about without worrying about fitting into pigeonholes. We feature guest content, tv reviews, interviews, everything under one big brown sky!" so WP:UGC/unreliable. Teasers and cast announcements are press releases/promo/run-of-the-mill. Galaxy Lollywood seems tabloid-ish and I note at the bottom of the page the copyright is dated way back in 2021 which is sign of a non-reputable source. They also do not have an About us page or anything indicating their editorial standards. Those are just some of things that pop out to me. S0091 (talk) 19:36, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

I've moved both pages back to draft NS as I feel they're not yet prepared for the main NS. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 14:18, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

I endorse the bold move, but I will not review the draft; let another reviewer review it, provided the unreliable sources given. Toadette^Edit! 15:58, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

@CNMall41: How about taking the lead on the review? You also seem to have a good understanding of WP:RS. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 16:01, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Request for Investigation of User:Saqib

Hey there, I added my articles Wonderland (Pakistani TV series) and Hook (2022 TV series) as per WP: Articles for creation and were accepted for publishing by you, However, User:Saqib reverted the pages to draftspace. Also he has nominated several articles for deletion without giving proper rationale. Kindly look into the matter. Earlier User:BeauSuzanne also pointed out his actions which are discouraging for me to publish articles on Wikipedia. Kindly look into the matter.Appreciate your usual cooperation.182.182.97.3 (talk) 14:39, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Apologise ip, but I am not an admin. I am involved though. Didn't you see the thread above? In my view, Saqib's WP:BOLD move was okay, but can you explain the pages that were nominated for deletion? I am also curious that I should question you, are you the user (s) listed above in the thread? Toadette^Edit! 15:55, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Hook (2022 TV series) and Wonderland (Pakistani TV series) are the articles. You can see that here User_talk:Drmies#BeauSuzanne, how he accused me and then being biased moved my pages to back to drafts. Please do something as I took out a lot of time to publish both of them. 182.182.97.3 (talk) 16:01, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm sorry but you were giving false information. They weren't nominated for deletion and I do not see the editor as being biased. I am afraid that you are a suspected WP:LOUTSOCK; you should be blocked for accusing an editor as a biased person in addition to breaking the sockpuppetry policy despite warned not to. Toadette^Edit! 16:34, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of List of battles in Croatia for deletion

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NLeeuw (talk) 22:21, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

@Nederlandse Leeuw, can you please explain why did you add this, provided that the AfD page isn't created yet? Toadette^Edit! 06:44, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

@ToadetteEdit The AFD was created. Your user talk page just needed cache purged. -- ferret (talk) 13:01, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Sources for Earl George article

Hello, my article article about Earl George was declined on the grounds that the subject is not notable enough. I have added more reliable sources to show the subject's notability. However, I believe that the original sources were reliable and showed notability, especially the sources from the Seattle Civil Rights and Labor History Project, the Communism in Washington State History Project, and the finding aid to his papers. These are all independent sources that are part of a larger social history research project by the University of Washington and meet the Wikipedia reliability guidelines. Mathieulalie (talk) 16:38, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Mathieulalie, the reason for my decline is that other than the first and second references, the sources does not discusses the subject in depth Two sources would make the article to be weak in the field of notability. I suggest you add another one or two so that the topic would hopefully be suitable for inclusion to Wikipedia. Hope that helps! Toadette^Edit! 16:43, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

The Wikipedia notability guidelines state that there must be multiple sources about the subject that meet the Wikipedia reliability guidelines. You have already stated that there were two references that met the requirements for both reliability and in-depth coverage. My draft does not contain any original research. Is there a new rule that there must be more than two reliable sources? In the past, I have always been told by other reviewers that two sources is sufficient. There are also other reliable sources in the article that discuss certain parts of George's life, which I believe further supports his notability. Mathieulalie (talk) 17:08, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

It is not mandatory to have more than two sources, but I speculate that it may be taken to AfD. I am not declining because of only two sources in the draft. You can resubmit it and it will be accepted. Toadette^Edit! 17:13, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Rich Burk

Toadette, from one AfC reviewer to another, you gave a poor decline. You added stating that All biographies must be cited to a source or otherwise it will be removed (see the policy on biographies of living people), presumably in reference to WP:BLPREMOVE, but the draft has ten cited sources, which is an entirely reasonable amount relative to its length. Certainly, none of the information in the draft can be considered "contentious material", which is what BLPREMOVE covers. Mach61 16:55, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Mach61, I understood. I did this with the other. I'll be more careful of this; it should have been accepted anyways. Can you please explained by contentious materiaĺ? Toadette^Edit! 17:14, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

@ToadetteEdit "Contentious" isn't formally defined, but it is usually interpreted to mean information that has been disputed by another editor, or is very likely to be, due to containing being a controversial claim. Mach61 17:31, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Krishnamma (film)

Hi @ToadetteEdit, could you please review this page Draft:Krishnamma (film). RadisonRathod (talk) 17:58, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

I will review it soon. Toadette^Edit! 08:19, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Thankyou. RadisonRathod (talk) 11:21, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey, @RadisonRathod, I know you're just trying to be polite, but you don't need to refer to anyone here with an honorific, and it's a bit frustrating for those of us who are women when people assume everyone here is a man. Valereee (talk) 15:17, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

@ToadetteEdit @Valereee Sorry. RadisonRathod (talk) 15:46, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

No worries! We know there are places where the use of honorifics is necessary to sound polite, and that that's all you were trying to do. English wikipedia isn't one of those places. Valereee (talk) 15:50, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Got it @Valereee, I will keep it in mind. Thankyou! RadisonRathod (talk) 15:53, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi @ToadetteEdit, Kindly look into this. Im Just reminding! RadisonRathod (talk) 17:17, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

RR, that draft was just declined yesterday. It can take months for a draft to be re-reviewed. Valereee (talk) 18:24, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Krishnamma (film)

Hi @ToadetteEdit, Can you please mark this page Krishnamma (film) as reviewed. So that i would appear on google as well. RadisonRathod (talk) 17:51, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

I will let another one review it, as my reviews on films has attracted complaints. Toadette^Edit! 17:53, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

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Question from Harerge (21:50, 13 May 2024)

Thanks --Harerge (talk) 21:50, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Harerge, and welcome to Wikipedia! the introduction is the best way to start editing the encyclopedia. Do you have any questions to say? Toadette^Edit! 11:30, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:Zzap!64 Gold Medal Award winners has been nominated for deletion

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Request on 20:41:24, 11 May 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Eisbergsk

• Eisbergsk (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Wilf Perreault (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Eisbergsk (talk) 20:41, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your reply. I will continue to update all the sources I can to archive locations. Our local library just finished archiving all of the Regina Leader Post newspapers from 1909. Because I don't know, I have to ask - if I cannot find an archive location, where do I post the jpeg of the source? Do I create a gallery in my article itself? Sorry, such a newbie! Once I finish updating the sources that I can, did you mean you want me to post the remaining links in here for you? Again, sorry, such a newbie. Again, thank you so very much for your help. Eisbergsk (talk) 20:41, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Eisbergsk! Sorry for the late reply. You can cite the jpeg as if you are citing a source, and cite it at the end of the relevant statement. Creating a gallery is optional, you can upload the images you want to upload to Wikimedia Commons but please be sure to follow the relevant policies there. I do not mean to have you to post all the source for evaluation whether they are reliable or not. It's up to your choice. Hope that helps! Toadette^Edit! 11:34, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Re:Samuel Richards (Ironmaster)

Hello! I noticed that my Wiki page was declined for lack of reliable sources. I just wanted to ask if there were certain sources I listed that were inadequate? All be it, many of the sources I had are from a book on the said individual, that has not been made available online by the publisher, however it is a very reliable resource.

Thank you!

~~~~Decifix Decifix (talk) 00:11, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Decifix! Sorry for the late reply. I've specifically declined it because there are some statements that are unsourced, in contrary to the verification policy. It doesn't matter whether the sources have to be online, but I suggest that you put the page numbers the the book when citing a statement. Once you are sure that most statements are ready, you can click on the blue button to resubmit the draft for review. Hope that helps! Toadette^Edit! 11:38, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

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Your close at The Color of Crime

Hi Toadette, I wanted to drop you a note to see if you’d consider reverting your close and re-listing at Talk:The_Color_of_Crime_(book)#Requested_move_2_May_2024. The requested move was first posted May 2 so it was technically old enough to be eligible for closure, but if you look more closely at the timestamps, it was posted to two different wikiprojects at 2:20 May 9, and all of the discussion happened very shortly after that. I think Wikiexplorationandhelping ought to have re-listed it when notifying wikiprojects. If you’d consider re-opening it, I have some responses I’d like to make to Camerone Dewe’s argument (which pushed me to an oppose), and I think it’s possible that more participants from the wikiprojects will want to weigh in. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 18:08, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi LEvalyn! I haven't recognise the closure, it should have been relisted. Toadette^Edit! 01:07, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Review

Hello, could you review the Draft:Battle of Samtredia article, as well as some other drafts (Draft:Battle of Gochouri, Draft:Battle of Akhaltsikhe (1444), Draft:Siege of Shamkor)? Thank you.

Hi ip, I will review it soon, if they are still unreviewed. Toadette^Edit! 01:07, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Draft:David Gamage

Dear ToadetteEdit,

I do not understand why you declined this submission on May 6, 2024. Your post says "In summary, the draft needs to meet any of the eight academic-specific criteria" the fifth criteria of which is "The person has held a distinguished professor appointment at a major institution of higher education and research, a named chair appointment that indicates a comparable level of achievement, or an equivalent position in countries where named chairs are uncommon." The first line of the bio explains clearly that the subject currently has a distinguished professor appointment, and, additionally, the first line under "Professional and Academic Career" documents clearly that the subject has held multiple named chair appointments. This would seem to be dispositive, more than meeting the criteria under the guidelines.

Additionally, the subject's top rankings in citation and SSRN metrics would seem to easily satisfy the first criterion of "The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources."

I did not create this profile, but I did edit it and I am a student in the field and so have some expertise. I will revise the profile some and resubmit. But I would appreciate it if you could please explain to me if I am somehow misunderstanding the criteria or whether your decision was an oversight or whether the profile somehow did not convey the information in the proper way.

Thank you! JDtoBee (talk) 19:15, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi @JDtoBee! I apologize that I have mistakened my action. I hadn't paid attention to the criteria. This should have been accepted. Toadette^Edit! 00:54, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks! JDtoBee (talk) 17:46, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Could I ask for your help on this article please? In response to your denial, I reorganized the content to make clear how the criteria were met, and this seems to have resulted in other editors having concerns about the article being unbiased, and removing the acceptance and back to draft. I am not biased and do not have a conflict of interest. If you could please review the draft article again and let me know how I could improve it for acceptance and removing concerns I would be very appreciative. Thanks! JDtoBee (talk) 20:24, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

@JDtoBee don't WP:FORUMSHOP to get someone to review the draft. There's WP:NODEADLINE, you have resubmitted the draft so someone will review in time and there's a discussion on the draft's talk page. S0091 (talk) 21:06, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

I don't think it is forum shopping to ask for advice and review from someone who had previously reviewed the article and communicated with me about it. JDtoBee (talk) 21:13, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

I may review it, but I have to go to sleep now. Also, I may be busier than before so please wait. I appreciate your patience. Toadette^Edit! 22:11, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

I am so confused with the matter right now. I've declined the draft as needing more sources to establish notability and it hasn't been shown yet. It was accepted three days ago only for it to be challenged and ultimately draftified. I do not have any issues with the draft post-draftification but after looking at the draft's talk page and your talk page, and claiming that you have no relation with the subject and an expert in the topic area feels that the conflict of interests may be escalated to sanctions. I do not see you as having a conflict of interest but I will look onto your contributions shortly to find that did you exclusively edited the draft (let aside talk pages) or not. Toadette^Edit! 22:29, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

@JDtoBee, you are in fact forum shopping, although as a new editor that may not be clear. Please let the review process unfold naturally. Publishing an article on WP is not a race to a hypothetical finish line, it is a process, and because WP is an encyclopedia, there are various steps in the process and procedures. Please also understand that Toadette is a knowledgeable reviewer, AND she is, like 99.9% of the editors here is a volunteer (so am I). It's not our "job" to review things on demand. Please be patient, there are no deadlines on wikipedia. Netherzone (talk) 22:30, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

You moved the entire freakin' project forward inadvertently

The Where We've Never Gone Before Barnstar(field)

You knew from the beginning the RfA would fail. Your RfA process inadvertently created an unexpected issue which the community will be forced to prevent from happening again. For your courageous and reckless decision to run for sysop after closing your own failed test, I give you this hard to define (but invaluable) barnstar. May you live long and prosper, Toadette. I failed an RfA badly myself once. Your edits and your energy since the failed run are quite good. You seem a more serious wikipedian. Good for all of us! BusterD (talk) 16:59, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

What's going on with Moriori Enslavement

Hello. I wanna know do I have to do more with the Moriori Enslavement article? I thought I would've gotten a notification about it by now. I51iM (talk) 16:11, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hi @I51iM, you need to click the blue resubmit button in the decline notice to submit it for review. S0091 (talk) 16:21, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Okay I resubmitted. I51iM (talk) 16:40, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi I51iM! Sorry for the late reply, but it looks like you do not have more to do. You have resubmitted for another reviewer to give his thoughts on the article. Toadette^Edit! 01:07, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Okay thanks for the response. I was hoping you would be the one to review and approve it but whatever. I51iM (talk) 22:55, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Review of Draft: Bryan Leach

Hi friend! Several weeks ago, the draft for Bryan Leach was declined due to the references not showing that the subject qualifies for page. I updated the draft to include some more complete information based on comments from other editors and also added some more extensive sources like the Wall Street Journal, Yahoo Finance and NY Times. The company which Bryan Leach founded went public last month and there has been more coverage with additional details. Would you be kind enough to take a look and see if this has satisfied the bar for a new page. Thanks so much! Flyguyz93 (talk) 16:34, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Flyguyz93! I have specifically declined as some statements were unsourced, contrary to the verification policy. But as I could remember, it should have been accepted as I've mistakenly declined it. My apologies but it may be accepted. Hope that helps! Toadette^Edit! 00:51, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi @ToadetteEditThis is great news! Would you go back and complete the approval process on that draft or is there something I need to do? Flyguyz93 (talk) 12:34, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

@ToadetteEdit I wanted to check back in with you on this draft. Would you be able to approve it or do I need to resubmit first. Not sure of the best way to proceed. Please let me know. Thanks!! Flyguyz93 (talk) 13:29, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

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Please take a moment to review Wikipedia:Page mover for more information on this user right, especially the criteria for moving pages without leaving a redirect. Please remember to follow post-move cleanup procedures and make link corrections where necessary, including broken double-redirects when suppressredirect is used. This can be done using Special:WhatLinksHere. It is also very important that no one else be allowed to access your account, so you should consider taking a few moments to secure your password. As with all user rights, be aware that if abused, or used in controversial ways without consensus, your page mover status can be revoked.

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If you do not want the page mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! – robertsky (talk) 02:39, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

You moved Sanusi Lamido Sanusi incorrectly. We don't do technical requests for controversial moves, and when there has been previous discussion of the move, it is always treated as controversial. DrKay (talk) 16:35, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

My apologies, this should have resulted in a new discussion instead. Toadette^Edit! 17:15, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Request on 21:48:47, 25 May 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Eisbergsk

• Eisbergsk (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Wilf Perreault (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Toadette. I have added ISSN numbers and publishers for most of my references, and created a gallery of jpg and pdf images on the Wilf Perreault page. Could you give it a glance and let me know if I should resubmit? Thank you so much for all your help and advice! ---This is an addendum- Some of the images I uploaded are copyrighted, so I removed them, and updated the urls to the available online archive which is only available by subscription. There are still 6 articles in the reference gallery that I cannot find online. So, I am going to resubmit and take my lumps. Thank you for all your assistance! Eisbergsk (talk) 21:48, 25 May 2024 (UTC) Eisbergsk (talk) 21:48, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Colin William Wyatt

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Hello. The template tells me to click 'new section' but I do not see a tab 'new section'. I replied to your message on my talk page. I did not realise I had to alert you here to the fact I had done so. I would be grateful for clarification and further advice. Also you or another has changed the title of this draft submission from Colin William fforde Wyatt to Colin William Wyatt. Is this to identify the second draft submission? Because this would be an incorrect title for a final version. I would prefer to use the simple "Colin Wyatt". I only began with the subject's full name because of another Colin Wyatt. Thank you. IonaFyne (talk) 15:25, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi @IonaFyne! The article was moved per policy on article titles, that articles on subjects should be titled based on commonly recognizable names documented by reliable sources. As for the decline, if it is because it is "not adequately supported by reliable sources", then I found some passages unsourced. If the decline was about notability, I would advise you to read the notability guideline, especially those on people. If you are referring to I only began with the subject's full name because of another Colin Wyatt, then I suggest that it would be disambiguated. Hope that helps! Toadette^Edit! 01:02, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you again for your reply (17 May). Your help is much appreciated.

I redrafted and submitted my article based on reading Wikipedia guidance articles and Wikipedia entries in order to understand and follow Wikipedia requirements.

On 7 May, I asked if I might have further assistance relating to the decline of the submission as "not adequately supported by reliable sources". This was because I am struggling to understand when it is permissible to refer to writings by the subject and when it is not permissible. May I have clarification on this, please?

I had provided references to articles by the subject in entomology journals and in alpine journals but then removed them because I was told that it is not permissible to reference articles written by the subject.

But, for example, Wikipedia has allowed such references for its entry on Chris Bonington:

Bonington, Chris (1988). "Menlungtse Attempt". American Alpine Journal. 30 (62). New York, NY USA: American Alpine Club: 275–278. ISBN 0-930410-33-5.

^ Bonington, Chris (1989). "Menlungtse Western Summit". American Alpine Journal. 31 (63). New York, NY USA: American Alpine Club: 284–286. ISBN 0-930410-39-4.

I had put in references to magazine articles by the subject because I had a message that sources had to be cited.

But, for example, Wikipedia, for Robert Macfarlane (writer), allows this general paragraph with NO sources cited:

"He has also published many reportage and travel essays in magazines, especially Granta and Archipelago, as well as numerous introductory essays to reissues of lost and neglected classics of landscape and nature writing from the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, notably J. A. Baker (The Peregrine) and Nan Shepherd (The Living Mountain and In The Cairngorms)."

Once again, I really do appreciate your help with this. IonaFyne (talk) 14:43, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Please see my message of 21 May. I am sorry - I forgot to end it with the four tildes.

I notice that these tildes do not show in the preview of this message. But they are here - once with the brackets and once without the brackets.

(IonaFyne (talk) 14:55, 21 May 2024 (UTC))

IonaFyne (talk) 14:55, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Good afternoon, I've had an alert letting me know that there is a comment to my last question. When I click on this, I cannot see a comment, and it looks as if I may have sent my question from user1, and I do not understand why this has happened. Your response to my question would be very valuable to me. IonaFyne (talk) 13:39, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of List of battles in England for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of battles in England is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of battles in England until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

NLeeuw (talk) 19:55, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

@Nederlandse Leeuw, why you won't even nominate List of battles by geographic location per WP:MILMOS#BATTLESIN and WP:UNSOURCED? Toadette^Edit! 23:41, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Moriori Enslavement

Hello. I know I got message on this article that it takes 3 months for an article to get review. Do you know whose been assign t review this article? I haven't gotten concerning this article May 10th. I submitted this article for the first time I think in February. I51iM (talk) 20:33, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the cleanup

...of the the Philippines IPv6 LTA plaguing Forever (Rex Smith song)‎ and many other articles. DMacks (talk) 13:14, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Revisit Draft: Bryan Leach

Hello again my friend. A while back the draft page for Bryan Leach was declined and in a previous talk page conversation you indicated that you had declined it by mistake. It would be very helpful if you could go back and publish it. If I need to resubmit or take any further action before you can do that please let me know. I worked really hard on that page and made updates after it was declined to improve it even more. I see you have many requests and I am grateful for your help! Flyguyz93 (talk) 17:38, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

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To edit a page

I want to update the page content. below is the page link. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanjay_Salil

I work under him and he is the MD and CEO of my organisation. Tomarhimanshu (talk) 05:06, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

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New page reviewer granted

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Maharvi Page

Hi, The name is Khawaja Noor Muhammad Maharvi. the suffix is maharvi not a name, Can you please move it to the correct name i will be very thankful! Alragon1 (talk) 11:05, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Fanzonater Daboi (15:04, 20 June 2024)

Hello how to edit....? --Fanzonater Daboi (talk) 15:04, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

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Ana Roš

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I have started a dispute resolution. Nevertheless, our legal team will review tomorrow. Until then, I kindly ask you and your friends to leave the fact we published and are backed by various facts as Michelin guide, authority documents and other, untouched. You can always ask me to provide proof and we will do so.

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June 2024

Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made: you may already know about them, but you might find Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Thank you. Galebazz (talk) 18:02, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Re: Santikaro Draft Rejection

Hi Toadette, this is Peacefu-D, the user who wrote Santikaro's biography which was rejected by you yesterday. The main reason was "not enough secondary sources.

I wanted to ask if you took a careful look at the references in that article numbered: 1, 4, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15 and 16. All eight of these are secondary sources that satisfy the Wikipedia definition. They have nothing to do with Santikaro himself - they are magazines and other establishments who have decided to write up a summary about him. In particular, references #12 and #15 in that article are both central repositories of numerous teachings by well-known teachers.

Before starting that article, I did an extensive search for secondary sources. I believe the ones I've included are pretty much it. I don't know what to do now: there are other teachers who are similar to Santikaro but not nearly as accomplished but they all have a Wikipedia page on here.

If you have any suggestion, I would greatly appreciate it: should I 1) find more secondary sources ?? (What's wrong with the 8 listed above?) 2) make it clear that the secondary sources included are it, e.g, I can remove some of the primary sources (since there are so many publications, books, articles by him, but that would under-represent his contributions to the world).

Thank you very much for any pointers, Peaceful-D — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peaceful-D (talk • contribs) 19:55, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

ps. This is the article: Draft:Santikaro — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peaceful-D (talk • contribs) 20:00, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Advice for counter-vandalism

Remember to warn the person who you reverted after reverting their edits! Good work otherwise, you've beat me to a lot of these diffs lol. Jdcomix (talk) 16:32, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

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How do they approve our edits? How is it done? --Iamseviiin (talk) 00:12, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

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Question from GARANG PETER CHOL WUOI (22:53, 8 July 2024)

Hi CAN U TELL ME MORE ABOUT WIKIPEDIA --GARANG PETER CHOL WUOI (talk) 22:53, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi @GARANG PETER CHOL WUOI! Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit. Youcan read more on Wikipedia and Wikipedia:About. There is an introduction to help you get started with editing. Toadette^Edit! 18:10, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Blwoods2024 on Patricia Arquette (20:36, 3 July 2024)

How is this associated with politics. This is a point in time against one person and not necessarily a party. This should be removed as fact. --Blwoods2024 (talk) 20:36, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

@Blwoods2024, if you believe it is so, you can say this on the talk page. I have no knowledge of the topic. Toadette^Edit! 18:13, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Sunshinevegetables (07:53, 12 July 2024)

I made a mistake while keeping the username. I have used my organisation name and I want to change it to my name. how to do it? --Sunshinevegetables (talk) 07:53, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi Sunshinevegetables! To request a rename, you can visit the changing username request page and follow the instructions there. If you have email confirmed through preferences, you can also do the same through Special:GlobalRenameRequest. Hope that helps! Toadette^Edit! 08:40, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Little Reminder:CVUA

Hi. How are you? It's been somewhere between 13-17 days (depending how you count) since I did the tasks on the CVUA page, with no reply from you. You seem to be pretty active elsewhere, so just a little reminder in case you forgot. Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 04:00, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

I have returned to your page. Toadette^Edit! 08:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Other Question:Do you think I'm ready to re-apply for rollback Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 14:16, 16 July 2024 (UTC)