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Germans in Bulgaria

On 31 March, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Germans in Bulgaria, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 16:36, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

User page for speedy deletion?

Please tell me this is a joke. Why would any one in their right mind want their userpage speedily deleted? Chris 17:25, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

WW II

Re: your article Military_history_of_Bulgaria_during_World_War_II
Bulgaria signed the Tripartite Pact in 1941 and attacked Greece. No amount of smoothtalking ("e.g. Bulgaria retained its prosition of passivity" - oh please!) will ever change the malignant role of Bulgaria in the history of WWII. Soviet occupation must have given Bulgaria a good idea of what NE Greece went through during the "glory days" of Bialomorska Balgaria.
Parrisia 20:52, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Osvoboditel

You are probably right. “Malignant” does not even begin to explain the criminal role of Axis partner Bulgaria during WWII. In the final analysis, if you really are into accurately presenting the facts, then you need to observe the following:

Even the fascist dictatorship who run Greece at the time, refused to capitulate to the Germans. The Greeks fought the Axis with all their strength, even managing to score a few points on the way (Greco-Italian War) and did not become the Axis “policemen” ("assigned the control of already German-conquered territories" – also in that job you apparently did not perform very well either – see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust#Bulgaria). After the Nazis won the Battle of Greece, a fierce resistance was organized.

The "Osvoboditel", on the other hand, felt no need in doing the right thing i.e. making a contribution into the Allied effort and fight the Germans. Instead he saw the Nazi attack on Greece as a perfect opportunity to put his expansionist and "irredentist" agenda(against Greece and Macedonia, respectively) into action. He explicitly agreed about that with Hitler before signing the Tripartite Pact.

In the case of Macedonia, the "Osvoboditel" may have had a point since nationalist Bulgarians like to think that Macedonians are in fact Bulgarians, but, in the case of Greece his aspirations were totally groundless. It is like us Greeks saying that Instabul (formerly known as Constantinople) is still Greek despite its 99,99% non-Greek population and that we need to take it over.

This decision by the "Osvoboditel" rightly placed Bulgaria in the esteemed company (Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Imperial Japan, Independent State of Croatia) that you yourself have described. But don’t kid yourself: Bulgarian occupation of Greece was far worse than the Nazi and Italian ones. Deportation of all officials (mayors, school-teachers, judges, lawyers, priests), a universal ban on the use of the Greek language even on a private basis, expropriation of land and housing, import of Bulgarian settlers, renaming of all towns and places. Nomatter how romantically you choose to look at this, Bulgaria, unlike Nazi Germany, set out to annex NE Greece.
Parrisia 07:56, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Bulgarian alliances

We fought the Nazis, you sided with them even becoming their policemen, end of story. It is not anyone else's fault that your useless statesmen made all the wrong choices both in WWII and in 1912-3. I guess the bottom-line is that you have to make something of our own and try not to steal somebody else's property.
Parrisia 10:59, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Cheers

...to the best Wikipedian from Bulgaria I know!!!

What do You make of the 1885-1886 Serbo-Bulgarian war?

I think it was the stupidest act in the history of Bulgars and Serbs. The two peoples lived in peace for half a millennium before, and look at what that stupid and selfish act that relied itself of foolish opinions of a tiny group of men brought: Remember the Balkan Wars and the First World War? Do You remember Bulgaria's refusal to a Serbo-Croato-Bulgarian state and then to join Yugoslavia and then to a unified Balkans? Remember the rival tendencies that even pushed Bulgaria in the first half of the 20th century as the "Evil of the Balkans"?

The war was nonsensical. The Serbian soldiers were of tiny moral, fighting to comrades (they weren't in 1912, by then inner-national hatred grew up enough), former and future allies. And the basic customs of Serbia (honored always before and after this act), including all Serbian Laws bound Serbia never, ever to fight a war (unless it's a defensive war) against anyone save the, ehm, "illegitimate" Ottoman Empire! --PaxEquilibrium 23:57, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

• 7th century - 830: perfect utopia
• 840 - 1330 : traditional conflicts and political competing
• 1330 - 1885: peaceful utopia
• 1886 - 1960s: brutal hatred
• 1960s - incumbent: peace...but what kind?

The opinion in Serbia is divided. Those who believe Milan was a face of Europe and those who think he was the maddest Serbian King. Half of the Serbian Army deserted by the time the forces reached Bulgarian border.

Anyway, this is how the war was "justified":

• Main: Bulgaria annexed eastern Rumelia, violating the Congress of Berlin; Serbia demanded that it too be given a similar amount of Ottoman territory to the south, but all requests were ignored; so, they decided (or Milan decided in all his fury) to punish Bulgaria
• Truly main: the (future then?) greatest Serbian statesmen ever, Nikola Pašić, was a Bulgarian; he was exiled and left to his homeland; King Milan demanded that Bulgaria hands him over Nikola and all the other Radicals, which the Bulgarian King refused; as a result Milan decided himself to go for it
• Alleged cause explained on the international scene: the Bulgarian Army occupied a watchpost east of Nish that belonged to Serbia, the local soldiers refused to unman it and even shot at a Serbian soldier.

Cheers! --PaxEquilibrium 10:26, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

BG nouns

Could you check my observations here for accuracy before I start going to all articles removing claims that Bulgarian is an analytic language (it's not, Bulgarian verbs are nothing like Chinese or even Afrikaans verbs where the word doesn't change at all).--Domitius 15:55, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, he's from Bulgaria alright, but what cannot be known is his ethnic origin (which's irrelevant to me completely; as long as he's from Bulgaria, he's Bulgarian). He's most probably of either Circassian or Aromanian origin... who knows...his family today in Bulgaria definitely considers themselves Bulgarians most probably though. Ethnic origin didn't matter, even to him. --PaxEquilibrium 18:13, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

...but he never ever forgot about his Bulgarian homeland (evidently) and was a Bulgarian politician slightly as well (while he lived in Bulgaria). --PaxEquilibrium 19:08, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Bulgarians of Romania

Greetings, Todor. I don't know if you've looked at ro:Bulgarii, but according to that article, there are actually three groups of Bulgarians in Romania: 1) Banat Bulgarians. 2) "Bulgarians of Muntenia (and Oltenia), where they are called 'Serbs'. All 'Serbs' in southern Romania aee in fact Bulgarians. They do not have education or liturgies in their native language and so are being strongly assimilated. Even though only a few thousand Bulgarians appear in census data, there may be as many as 100,000 of them, but because of a lack of national consciousness they mainly declare themselves 'Romanian'. These Bulgarians are descended from Bulgarians who fled Ottoman interdictions in the 15th-19th centuries." 3) "Northern Dobrogea: the majority left Romania in 1940 after a population exchange agreed in the Treaty of Craiova; today there are just several hundred Bulgarians left there. This is the oldest Bulgariann community in Romania, its presence dating to the 6th century." There's also a map.
Do you know anything more about this subject? It's poorly sourced (except for two articles, one about a village in Muntenia and one about Bulgarians in Bucharest) but could be interesting - maybe we should a larger "Bulgarians in Romania" article linking to the Banat Bulgarians and discussing the other two groups. Certainly, there should be something on the Northern Dobrogea Bulgarians. For the record, in 1930 there were ~360,500 Bulgarians and ~54,000 Serbs and Croats in Romania, so if you exclude the Banat & Bessarabian Bulgarians and count a few of the Serbs as Bulgarians (which apparently happened), that leaves a fair amount of people.
Anyway, see what you think, and what (if any) Bulgarian sources you can find. Biruitorul 05:03, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Todor. There is a ton of articles this "Bulgarians of Romania" ought to be linked to, and I have sources that may come in handy for details. I'm willing to help from my end. I don't know why it took us so long: we already have a Category:Bulgarian-Romanians. Dahn 11:31, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi! Indeed, it could be linked from a lot of places. I'm not sure I have enough sources at that moment even to start the article as a good summary (I'd like to have everything sourced), so feel free to start it yourself if you like. Todor→Bozhinov 11:46, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I'll get to work on changing those links to direct to the future article for now, and then I'll start something from what I have around. Dahn 12:14, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

BTW, I meant to write "from central northern Bulgaria", because that's where both part of the Banat Bulgarians and those Paulicians in Wallachia originate, but I got distracted and wrote "in". I didn't meant to say Wallachia is central northern Bulgaria or anything like that :) It's just that there are former Paulicians in central southern Bulgaria too, e.g. see Rakovski. Todor→Bozhinov 11:52, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh, no prob. My point was the following: it is, as you point out, very likely that Paulicians/Roman Catholics in Bulgaria and other parts were also being referred to as "pavlicheni" in Romanian, and it is somewhat likely that, occasionally, the "pavlicheni" exonym passed to Bulgarians in general or to Slav-speaking Roman Catholics in general (like Ceangăi came to designate Roman Catholics in Moldavia in some accounts), although it seems that, up until the 1800s, Orthodox Bulgarians in Wallachia were being colloquially and erroneously referred to as "Serbs" (reason why we have all those villages named "Sârbi" scattered throughout the Bărăgan). However, in that case, we knew for sure that at least part of the Bulgarians present came from the Banat, so there was little reason to assume that the name referred to the Paulician/Roman Catholic community at large. Since your edit had erased a link that led to the article where the "Paulician" issue appeared to be clarified at least in part, it was making the text less than it could be. Definitely, the best solution in this case as well is to have an umbrella article, so I changed the link to that. My edit summary may have been too lapidary, but it was hard for me to summarize this point in there. Dahn 12:14, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

The passing of the exonym (which is also often an endonym) would not be a precedent, so it's likely. As for that misindetification as "Serbs", I seem to recall reading somewhere that it is explained by the traditional meaning of sârbi in Romanian as including all South Slavs (Nyagulov, "Banatskite balgari", p. 56, note 47). Is there anything like that? Todor→Bozhinov 13:13, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure about it being "all South Slavs", but it may be for all Orthodox South Slavs. Then again, it probably depended on the level of interest people had - the more cosmopolitan Bucharesters referred to people from Gabrovo, people from Tarnovo, people from Ragusa, etc. by their city of origin. What sources I have say is that no census recorded Bulgarians as "Bulgarians" until some time before 1850 (arguably because Russians, who were present here, took more interest in recording accurate data, and because a significant number of refugees from your country crossed to the north). Dahn 03:06, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey, I like Siderov - though feel free to ATTACK me for that statement! (I'm not sure I'd want him in power, but he at least addresses important questions that other politicians prefer to ignore.) Anyway, it seems support is building for this "Bulgarians in Romania" idea. Don't forget our friend Christian Rakovsky, another Romanian-Bulgarian revolutionary. I'll translate some relevant excerpts about the village; more upon request.

"The locals officially declare themselves Romanian, but say they are Bulgarian in origin. Archives indicate they are actually Serbs.
"In Gauriciu, a commune with some 4,000 inhabitants, the majority speak "Old Bulgarian", a strange language peppered with many Serbian and Romanian words.
The elderly Ştefan Tudor: "I am a Bulgarian and this is how I want to die."
"The old people of Gauriciu know that the first Bulgarians who settled around here did so an a hill still called Ciuminie Vra (Hill of the Plague). After an epidemic, they moved further down, in an area good for gardening, where they still live. Gauriciu is first mentioned in a document of 18 April 1533, when Vlad Vintilă fortified several villages in the area. In 1817, in the records of the Smărdoasa estate, sold by stolnic Parashiv to Crenea Popovici, two villages are mentioned: Smărdoasa and Sârbii Otcismea ("The Serbs from near the fountain"). In 1823, Cernea Popovici noted in his will that he had brought 82 families of Serbs and settled them on a plot of land on the Smărdoasa estate, which would be called Gauriciu.
"So, why Bulgarians? Maybe before the 82 Serbian families were brought in, Bulgarian settled here, attracted by a soil favourable for gardening. A mixture of the two groups followed, also favoured by the two languages' Slavic roots. Another possibility is that the man who wrote Cernea Popovici's will made a mistake, writing Serbs instead of Bulgarians. What is certain is that the inhabitants of Gauriciu consider themselves Bulgarian, and are Orthodox." Biruitorul 17:45, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Siderov is funny, and all he can do is complain. Yes, he may sometimes address important issues, but he offers no viable solutions. Thanks for translating these excerpts! Certainly very curious. It seems that broader meaning of sârbi we talked about above may be a good explanation? Todor→Bozhinov 08:52, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Did You ever hear...

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Eastern Rumelia

Greetings Todor

I was just catching up a bit on Eastern Rumelia when I noticed that the coat of arms shown on this article is different from the one shown on the article about Bulgarian unification, although the two seem to be related. Do you know which insignia is the correct one, and if you do, would you mind updating the articles accordingly? Happy editing. Valentinian ^{T / C} 21:22, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I've never seen illustrations of this insignia elsewhere, so it is likely that it was never properly defined (in any case, the Bulgarian arms is prettier). Thanks again. Valentinian ^{T / C} 11:05, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Stefan Dunjov

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Wow!

That's fascinating.

Nope, never 'eard of it before. But I know of a Serbian nobleman Michael Angelo of Greek-Bulgarian origin (heck, just like every famous Serb back then). --PaxEquilibrium 18:33, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Timeline

These look awesome. Very nice that you've mastered them. But I don't understand why you need a template instead of including the timeline tag right in the article? --Cameltrader 19:34, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Γεια σου Θεόδωρε!

• Preslav i Veliki Preslav na li sa 2 razli4ni neshta? V momenta Veliki Preslav pravi redirect na Preslav.
• Moze bi 4e iskash da Γo popravish?
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Ok

I agree but since: A)they are on two different locations and B)they correspond to two distinct historical entities, there could be two different articles to make the distinction.

• I forwarded this to you because you evidently know a lot more about Bulgarian cities than me and maybe you could write a few words :) in a new article for one of the two entries.

Do 4yvane,

Ok, your explanation makes sense and I agree that the article could be expanded due to the city's considerable importance. As to your question my knowledge of the lovely bulgarian language comes from my stay in Sofia Grad for almost a year (relaxing and learning bulgarian and german). Since we met here I shall also give you my e-mail address. It's: spyroshas@yahoo.gr

• user:Spyros Pantenas

Meeting

In case you haven't noticed, there's been a suggestion in Bulgarian Wikipedia to organize a meeting this Saturday. It's a good idea to tell others who might come, too. --Cameltrader 19:05, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

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Diplomatic missions by country (DMBC)

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Transliteration

Hi. Concerning your last edits on Bulgaria, I share your view on how to transliterate it, but note that "Bulgaria" and anything ending in "-ия/-ia" is fine according to the current "official" (that is, endorsed by the government) transliteration scheme,^[1] so you shouldn't be too restrictive. Of course, "Balgariya" is closer to how we pronounce it, and can be of use to non-native speakers. --Cameltrader 14:11, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

english sources for banat bulgarians...

Maybe here: http://scholar.google.com/. Ling.Nut 16:11, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

• Category GA-Class Bulgaria articles missing; left a note on the WikiProject Talk. --Ling.Nut 19:28, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Yep, it hadn't been created because there were no articles to populate it. I've just created it :) Todor→Bozhinov 19:30, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Самуил

Здрасти! Мислех да ти пиша утре или в други ден защото наистина имам нужда от помощ, но се ме изпредварил. Всъщност аз възнамерявах да те помоля за поправки в езика и стила; да прегледаш дали подзаглавията са подходящи и ако не да ги оправиш; да направиш фамилно дърво и хронология, защото аз не мога. Ако намериш време би било хубаво да има карта и да преведеш един цитат от Йоан Геометър по повод битката при Траянови врата (твоят английски е по-добър от моя и ще се справиш по-добре). Хм, щом ме съветваш ще сложа други теории, но няма да го разширявам, защото тези лъжи ме подлудяват: ) А, и също ако можеш да намериш източници от Fine ако има такива, за да има малко повече англоезични източници.

Прав си, не мога да преместя статията в личното си пространство, нито пък да я сложа после където трябва. Ще съм ти много благодарен ако го направиш. --Gligan 19:50, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Чудесно: ) Не забравяй на картата да отбележиш и някои земи на север от Дунав, защото в източниците пише че се е бил и победил византийците там. Ще ти кажа като привърша и ще те пратя и цитата тогава. Ще се опитам да е възможно най-бързо, но и аз не винаги намирам време (в петък дори ще имам 15 мин престой в родния ти Плевен) Благодарности: ) --Gligan 20:25, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

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Source for Saint Clement

Would you look at this and this. It provides sources about Clement, but I'm not totally sure it can be used. By this I mean Проф. Иван Снегаров (1883 - 1971) Реч, произнесена на 2 юли 1941 година в град Охрид from Поклоннически слова за Македония, "Военноиздателски комплекс "Св. Георги Победоносец", София, 1993, Жития на светиите, Синодално издателство, 1991 година and "Този велик наш отец и български светилник по род бе от европейските мизи, които мнозина наричат българи" (Й. Иванов. "Български старини из Македония", С., 1931, стр. 316 на гръцки и старобългарски) which cites the famous "Ohrid legend" from archbishop Homatian. And further: В "Дюканжовия" Списък на българските архиепископи пише изрично: "Климент, като станал епископ на Тивериупол и (или) Велика, сетне бил натоварен от Бориса, цар на българите да надзирава и третия дял на българското царство, т.е. от Солун до Йерихо и Канина и (или) Тасипият." (Й. Иванов. Български старини из Македония 1931, с. 565), а в "Охридската легенда" (Краткото житие на св. Климент), вероятно писано на български език и преведено и преработено от архиепископ Димитър Хоматиан Охридски и на цяла България, се добавя и следващото въздигане на общобългарския светител: "Климент е възведен на епископския престол, като бил поставен за епископ на целия Илирик и на владеещия тази земя български народ" (Й. Иванов 1931:318).

Съжалявам, че съм толкова многословен и че пиша и на български, ама ми писна да минавам от латиница на кирилица. Значи на въпросния сайт на БПЦ има споменати доста извори (и то оригинални), които мисля, че можем да използваме в статията за Климент. Аз обаче все още не съм много на ти с правилното цитиране и какво точно ми трябва за да цитирам нещо, затова те моля за помощ. Всякакви съвети и наставления ще са от полза. Лека --Laveol 23:27, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Благодаря - то аз така обикновено правя, в смисъл че гледам какво са написали другите, за да ми стане по-ясно. А и специално за тук не исках да си оставям пръстите :) Като имам въпроси нали става да се обръщам към теб? --Laveol 19:59, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Самуил

Здравей! Мисля, че горе-долу привърших със статията за Самуил и можеш да я прегледаш. Като прецениш, можеш да я преместиш където и е мястото. Ако подзаглавията ти се сторят неподходящи, можеш да ги поправиш или преименуваш: ) --Gligan 15:01, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

П.П. Май няма заключение и наследство, може би ще е по-добре ти да ги напишеш ако има нуждал П.П.П. Дали трябва да ги има тия други теории... Можем да отнесем въпроса до медиаторите... или не можем? --Gligan 15:47, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Gorani

Why did you do this edit? The info was added by myself, as per the Gorani's history (written by the Gorans themselves).

Best regards. --PaxEquilibrium 23:59, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Yep, I know what you mean. Currently the most notable Goran, Doctor Harun Hassani wrote about the origin of his people and collected their language ("Nasinski", Goranski) including writing various books about his people.

Let's then include all of the theories and write them, instead of just none? As far as I understood, among the Gorans themselves there is a division - one half couldn't think of themselves as anything other than Serbs, while the other half maintains its separate culture, including the new studies that speculate their (partial though) origin from the Arabic lands far-off in Asia. --PaxEquilibrium 15:32, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

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3RR rule

Мисля, че има нарушение на правилото в статията за Bosilegrad. 3 ревърта за по-малко от 24 часа и то не мога да разбера защо продължава да го прави - слагам му източник, а той го маха и ми слага citation needed. Аман значи. Аз сега съм се хванал да превеждам статията за Малта на български и днеска цял ден с него се занимавам. Ако имаш време моля те погледни Босилеград и дали наистина има основание да се репортва. Благодаря :)--Laveol 21:16, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

A Humble Request

Hi, I did really appreciate the article Anatolian Bulgarians started by you. It was an interesting ethno-historic article indeed. Do you also consider starting an article on Eastern Thracian Bulgarians (Lozengrad and the vicinity)? I'd go for it if I knew Bulgarian and had access to relevant sources. Ciao! Behemoth 08:30, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

DYK

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Music school

It is not abandoned, it has an owner since recently. See http://rousse.dir.bg/2007/04/06/news1546672.html Thanks for the nice article. --Cameltrader 13:57, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Pernik

Hey! Watsup! I was wondering if you could help me do the article about Pernik perfect in Bulgarian. I just started it but like I currently dont have cyrillic installed on my laptop and I will do that later but can you still look it up and help me to improve it! THANX dude!

Samuil cat

For that matter, couldn't we categorise all Bulgarian monarchs from Boris I onward as Eastern Orthodox Christians? If so, we should work on that. Biruitorul 21:49, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

OK, just to be safe, I've put it in only for the last two tsars - Boris III was baptised Orthodox at the age of two, so perhaps his father Ferdinand was Catholic (he certainly didn't act like a good Orthodox!). Indeed we say absolutely nothing about Boris' first 24 years of life, while the fr.wiki article on him is nearly an FA, so I'll look at translating some of that as time permits.

As for some of the others, they don't generally have many categories, so I figure it wouldn't hurt to put in another (if verifiable), plus to highlight the Triumph of Orthodoxy! Although I was recently discussing with some Serbs the possibility of launching simultaneous monarchist, Orthodox coups d'état in Athens, Belgrade, Bucharest, and Sofia, and we concluded that Bulgaria was a bit of a weak link in that chain - especially the Church seems to have suffered a decline there. That's something to work on, plus I don't know how much credibility Simeon retains (but that won't matter too much once the coup takes place - at least in the short run; his father only lasted 9 years after the 1934 coup, though his downfall was more related to external factors). Biruitorul 15:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

I'll have more to say later, but first: a vote that may interest you. Biruitorul 17:38, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Здравей! Хубава работа си свършил със статията Обаче за последния параграф има само два оригинални източници до колкото знам: Cecaumenes. Strategion и Скилица, и всичко е събрано в една страница. Мога да цитирам абсолютна същите, които съм използвал или да цитирам съвременни книги. Какво мислиш? --Gligan 10:48, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

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Перник

Здрасти! Искам да те помоля да включиш Перник в списъка си за градовете които развиваш. И ако може да ми помогнеш да направя статията по обширна. Мерси! :)

Драги, гнусната статия, която се опитваш да пробуташ в статията е жълта и не отговаря на истината. Оригиналният източник на статията е тук [2] и просто е прекопирана в chamber. Под заглавието на статията пише аввторът на статията - опс изненада - Ива Николова. Същата тая дърта брантия участва в едно доста пошло шоу Голямата уста с водещ гея Дим Диков, и всяка вечер бълва помия и показва колко е проста. Какъв и е статусът на журналист, след като няма срам да участва в едно такова жълто предаване?

Бъди сигурен, че за всеки град може да се намери нещо лошо или невярно. Ако само държиш да се заяждаш за глупости или от инат да остане твоята версия сбъркал си много.--Groser 12:42, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Samo nerazbrah kakvo ob6to ima Pernik sus Stara Zagora? :) LOL!

Флота

Здравей! Дали може да стане следното: да качиш в уикипедия рисунка, направена на Paint за статията за средновековния флот. Рисунката е по изображенията по стените на Преслав и Плиска и е малко нескопосана, но те и оригиналите са такива: ) Ще се опитам да намеря повече информация да разширя статията и за това е хубаво да има картинки... Но кой знае, може и нищо да не намеря... --Gligan 11:15, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Чудесно, ако можеш да ги прерисуваш на по-добра програма ще е много по-хубаво В такъв случай няма смисъл да ти пращам моето "произведение на съвременната българска живопис" Благодаря. --Gligan 08:47, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

DYK

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Miscellaneous

Hi. I assumed User:Groser's good faith and tried to settle the conflict by talking to him. He said defacing articles about other big cities in Bulgaria was not his aim. Please be reasonable when disputing his edits in the near future, and don't propose his blocking based only on past behaviour, unless he breaks his word.

Concerning my "all in one" script, I am actively developing it, and I haven't tested it thoroughly. I know that it doesn't run well in combination with some other scripts, for instance User:Cacycle's WikEd or User:Lupin's Popups. If you observe strange behaviour, or have a proposal for something useful, please report it to me, so that I can fix things during the weekend. I hope to attract some more users with this one when it gets more stable. --Cameltrader 19:16, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

True. However, I see direct talk as the only option to prevent that. If you try to block him, he will probably keep on doing harm by registering sock puppets, using proxies, and wasting our time. So, I am willing to spend some hours early, finding out the deeper reasons behind his desire to make Stara Zagora look prosperous, and perhaps convince him not to vandalize other articles. --Cameltrader 20:16, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

"All in one" is probably in conflict with some of the other scripts you are using. This happens, for instance, if I have declared a function named "f()" and some other script has done that too. I'll try your current configuration in a couple of minutes, and tell you what the problem is. If you just want to try it, you can temporarily remove the rest of your monobook.js and restore it afterwards. --Cameltrader 21:04, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

It seems Popups is falling into an infinite loop for some reason. For now, you'd better either use only All-in-one.js, or your old configuration. Sorry, I'll investigate this later. --Cameltrader 21:36, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

I know :) --Cameltrader 09:45, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

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Пиринска Македония

Тази статия е същинско безобразие и обида. Трябва да предприемем всички мерки за нейното премахване, защото твърденията на промитите ни сънародници в началото са просто възмутителни, остатъка е копие на Благоевградска област, а пък категорията отдолу е също обидна (няма нищо за България).

Ако не бъде премахната ще е хубаво да направим статия Вардарска Македония с подходящо встъпление, където да напишем какви са всъщнот те. Поздрави. --Gligan 08:55, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Strange editing of the article The Holocaust

Dear Todor, practically new article about the holocaust have emerged. There isn't even a word about the case of the Jews in Bulgaria in it, but there is statistics about 64,000 (!) Jews in Bulgaria and 14,000 (22%) of them - victims of mass extermination. Not even a word about the activity of Dimitar Peshev, the struggle of the Bulgarian Orthodox Church... - Jackanapes 14:13, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Help on List of Bulgarian films

В момента разширявам статията, но забелязвам, че ще стане прекалено голяма. Мисля, че е необходимо разделение на статии по десетилетия, т.е. да има отделна статия, в която да са изброени филмите, а сегашната List of Bulgarian films да има само препратки към въпросните под-статии. Някаква идея как точно да го направя. Ще съм много благодарен :) --Laveol 14:21, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Taka? Сега ще се пробвам да се поборя и с инфобокса - ако имам проблеми ще звънкам. --Laveol 15:08, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Дамм, знаех си, че така ще стане - някаква идея как да се оправя с цвета на Template:Bulgarianfilmlist, така че да се вижда? --Laveol 15:55, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

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Снимки

Здрасти! Можеш ли да качиш следните снимки като намериш време: sP3210097a.jpg; sP3210111.jpg; sP5151513.jpg; sP5139986a.jpg; sP5139990.jpg; sPB212919.jpg и sPB212935.jpg. Те са от албума на Груев, от галериите за София. Благодаря : )

За флота търсих в Народната библиотека, но нищо не няма... Жалко. Дано пък намеря другаде. --Gligan 13:32, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Ето ги: [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10]. Трябваше да се сетя, че така е по-лесно : ) --Gligan 18:15, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Здравей пак! Може ли по някое време да направиш темплейт на общините в София-град? Ще бъде доста полезно си мисля. И защо някои картинки и карти от българската уикипедия не стават тук? --Gligan 12:50, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Точно като Sofia Province, обаче вместо българското знаме да стои герба на София : ) --Gligan 14:41, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Св. Кирик

Здравей отново. Ако ти се занимава би ли прибавил няколко изречения в статията St. Cyricus Island? Не мога да се справя без грешки и за това. Има горещи новини около него - [11] Поздрави,--Givern 15:52, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

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