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J. R. Richard FAC

I have (finally) handled the issues regarding conjunctions on J. R. Richard, as requested at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/J. R. Richard. Could you please resume your review now? Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not love)} 02:00, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

GAN for Chicago Race Riot

Thanks for doing this - I kept forgetting to take that extra step.--Parkwells (talk) 12:10, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Walter O'Malley pre-FAC comments

I performed some minor cleanup last night. The article should be in better shape for its review than Jack Kemp was. However, I do have a few concerns about the article's sourcing. His official website is used extensively, and I'm unsure if reviewers will consider that a reliable source. Encyclopædia Britannica is also cited, which may be frowned upon considering that we are an encyclopædia as well. Also, does it need a dozen external links? I think you could make some cuts here. Let me know when this comes to FAC, so I can give more in-depth comments. Giants2008 (talk) 15:03, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Re:Signature

It's a reference to Make Love, Not Warcraft, the title of an episode of South Park. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not love)} 17:55, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Tony, it's a joke. I'm all for making love. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not love)} 18:43, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

I purposely went the other way around as a joke (make love, not war --> make articles, not love). I've been considering changing the sig to "make articles, not drama". That seems more appropriate. Heck, I'll change it right now. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 05:26, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles May Newsletter

The May Newsletter for WikiProject Good Articles has now been published. Dr. Cash (talk) 22:16, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

New Project

Myself and several other editors have been compiling a list of very active editors who would likely be available to help new editors in the event they have questions or concerns. As the list grew and the table became more detailed, it was determined that the best way to complete the table was to ask each potential candidate to fill in their own information, if they so desire. This list is sorted geographically in order to provide a better estimate as to whether the listed editor is likely to be active.

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I replaced the above comment. I just felt like I was spamming people by putting the same message on a lot of people's talk pages. Useight (talk) 03:36, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

You could just put that you're a mainspace contributor. Useight (talk) 03:47, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

B school images

The images were rearranged for viewers on high resolution settings.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 17:04, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Not sure what that means, but you recent change looks better—still don't think Columbia should be singled out though. --Eustress (talk) 17:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Each article should have a main image. It should either be a school that lead the ranking of rankings or has the most #1's. However, since Columbia is the only portrait image, they are harder to include in the reformatted image groupings.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 17:21, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Respectfully, I'm not looking for excuses, just stating a bias of this FL. --Eustress (talk) 17:24, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Re:FLD

It's because I don't review FLCs very much and I am involved with a very narrow scope of FLs when I write them. Compared with Scorpion and The Rambling Man, each of whom are much more involved with the process than I am, my experience is very limited, and I believe both of them would do a better job. Thank you for considering me though. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 00:12, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Freedom From Fear painting.JPG)

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FLD, FLC, LOTD etc

"I should have expected my most fierce WP:FL critic/combatant (along with Scorpion) Woody to chime in with the negative. He clearly maintains his position near the top of the list of people who have the least respect for my contributions to the project." I am not your FL critic, nor am I disrespectful to your contributions to the project that is Wikipedia. You clearly have a number of GAs. What I object to, is your ego-driven LOTD attempt. Why don't you divert your energies into reviewing lists instead of this "project" of yours. The Featured list director will be a position that will help streamline the FLC process and bring us more into line with the current FAC setup. To be perfectly honest, nobody has even thought about its consequences for the Main Page or your project, ostensibly because they are two completely unrelated projects. People care about making the FL process better and improving the end-product, not about your project. Woody (talk) 22:53, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Four Freedoms

Are you sure? I looked through the Wikipedia fair-use guidelines and I couldn't find any specific mentions. Either way, you should definitely used the Infobox Painting template, not Infobox Awards. Mr. Absurd (talk) 01:28, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't think it's a big deal but I do prefer the individual titles below (the way it is now), and from what I've seen around Wikipedia it's how it's normally done. As for the categories, I removed them because they weren't directly related to the subject—as WP:CAT says, "Restraint should be used as categories become less effective the more there are on any given article." Mr. Absurd (talk) 19:41, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Quality Articles

Have you ever thought of making something like this so we can see what type of editorial stuff you do?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 13:37, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Where can I find incumbent FA count information? (I saw your comment at User talk:Hurricanehink)--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 13:42, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I just look at WP:WBFAN and subtract the rusted stars from the list. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:20, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

I see my counts are accurate at WBFAN and WBFLN. Is it feasible for them to do a WBGAN?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:50, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I guess you can ask Rick Block (talk · contribs) to see how he would go about accounting for GA->FA and GA->B scenarios since we don't currently have a list of promotion and demotion. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:54, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Rebuttal

I assure Tony, I think about every comment I make, whether it is interpreted in the way intended is not at my discretion. I maybe a critic, but I am not a combatant. I am not your FL critic either, simply a critic of your suggested LOTD process. I agree that an FL on the main page might produce better turnover and more visibility for the FL process, I simply disagree that your process is in any way the best way to go about it.

With regards to "Please may want to make a comparison between a person who is trying to promote a democratic process versus one who is trying to promote a co-dictatorship and reconsider your choice of words when saying which one is ego-driven." First, not really understanding that very much. If you are suggesting that your process is democratic, then remember, democracies always have leaders, someone who enacts the policies decided on by others. That is what the FL will do. With regards to my schedule comment, it may seem flippant but it has its meaning, your post seemed entirely caught up with how changes would affect you and seemed to give no thought to the benefit of the project. Woody (talk) 15:31, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

O'Malley

Your going to need a whole page just to hold all the Good Article and Featured Article icons for articles you have pushed even beyond GA status, you should write articles for About.com and get paid for it. What do you think we should do about the broken link? I can switch to the cached version in Google, but the site may be up again, I left the website owners a message. And pointed out to the official O'Malley biographer what you have added to the biography. He will read it and leave comments, he found a typo last time, and filled in some missing dates. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 15:40, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

The only one left is some negative fan reactions in chrono order on the move, I am looking through Time's archive, do you remember any good quotes about resentment and anger? --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 02:36, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Re:Landmark District reports

Yes, I have printed copies of both reports I cited. I'm working on a general map to show all three sections of the district. Kevin Forsyth (talk) 19:31, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Just the one... I live in the district. Kevin Forsyth (talk) 20:35, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/J. R. Richard

All the concerns/comments on the the FAC have been addressed. Thanks, « Milk's Favorite Cookie ^{( talk / contribs)} 20:21, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Control cities edit

Back then, I thought we'd deprecated the "Major Cities" box WRT U.S. Routes. As it turns out, we didn't deprecate the Control Cities box, which I had lumped together with Major Cities, but some people seem to think Control Cities are more useful than Major Cities and still deserve their own table.

Since there are only 2, I still think it's a style issue and that the control cities can be mentioned in the text, but you can revert that edit if you want. —Rob (talk) 15:41, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Re:Residential buildings

I think it would be a great idea to create a List of tallest residential buildings in the United States and a List of tallest residential buildings in the world. Do you think the "all-" modifier would be needed in the title? However, separate sections in regular tallest building lists wouldn't be necessary IMO; the buildings are already listed in the main table, so repeating the information would be redundant. In addition, if we listed residential buildings in a separate section on tallest buildings lists, we might also have to separate and list buildings by commercial and hotel use. At present, the tallest all-residential (and hotel) building building in a city is noted in the city's tallest building list, and I think this is suitable in regards to regular tallest buildings lists. Cheers, Rai•me 19:43, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

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Re: Trump International Hotel and Tower (Chicago)

Wow! I'm really impressed. I just did a quick read through, but the article seems to flow great! I like the pictures and love the quantity of references!

If I had not edited it in the past, I would have loved to do the GA review. But I've done some edits in the past. Happily, though, the entire article has been redone and looks 1000x times better now! I hope it passes the GA! Fine work. Chupper (talk) 14:36, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Re:FLD

I see no reason why my new role would impose on "your" experiment. I have no interest in it (and as far as I know, neither does Rambling Man). -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 14:16, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Could you please stop pestering people about the LOTD thing? If you have to canvass, could you at least make sure that you only ask people who have not had any previous FLCs promoted? -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 19:53, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: GAN on hold removal

I decided to remove them because...I wanted to. In truth, I'm feeling the strain of different things, and I'm feeling the burn out. Right now I'm trying to focus on other things, on and off the Wiki. Hope you understand. Noble Story (talk) 14:27, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

GA on Chicago Race Riot

Thanks for the notice, Tony, and congratulations on getting it there! Sorry I couldn't help you more with the last stages but had gotten burned out. Had done a lot of work on another article converting links to in-text citations, and was just tired of it. Thanks again--Parkwells (talk) 16:30, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Guess there wasn't any way for ya to throw me a link

(to the "articles series" part of the proposed HRC featured article discussion). Still, I found it and commented...although while I was typing it, her "series" got dispersed, in any case. Hmm, by the way, is there some pertinent forum to discuss WP guidelines with regard to articles series' formations in general instead of doing so only on a case-by-case basis? If so, I'd be able to cut and paste most of my comment there. — Justmeherenow (   ) 16:40, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Re:Congratulations

Thanks. I'll add the table to Lee Smith shortly. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 02:27, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Signed

Yes, that the sort of image I was looking for. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 21:45, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Looking better, though I'd prefer a shot (or diagram) of the sign to go into the infobox using the route_marker parameter. I'll see about drawing you up a SVG for the ground-level sign (often referred to as a "sign blade" in roadgeek jargon). I still think that perhaps some of the bridge photos should be moved over to a Commons gallery; see Kansas Turnpike and its accompanying Commons gallery for an example. As for a street level view, which seems to still be missing, perhaps this and this will provide an idea of what I'm looking for. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 16:32, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Pick one to use for the route_marker parameter of the infobox. Having a real photograph would still be nice, though. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 16:56, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

I know how, but finding data that fine-grained would be difficult. Most GIS data sets I've seen only contain state-maintained highways. Also, my copy of QGIS seems to have a mind of its own and decided that no matter what I do, what I really want is blank white images. I've queried on their forum but the only advice I've gotten so far is "wait for the next version". —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 17:11, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't know; perhaps NYCDOT puts out shapefiles. You'd have to ask 25or6to4 when he comes back from vacation. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 17:20, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

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Portal:Chicago drive

TonyTheTiger,

First off, I want you to know that I think you have been doing some really great work on this portal, and I highly respect your quality-contributions to this project. However, it is beginning to become frustrating to attempt to collaborate on Portal:Chicago, because it seems like you are disagreeing with me and bucking virtually every single change I try to implement (and I am simply making changes based on comparisons to other portals that have successfully gained consensus as Featured Portals). I still value your contributions and will continue to think highly of you, but perhaps on this particular portal it seems that it might be best for you to work on this on your own, as you seem to have your own vision for it. If you want my advice on further work on this portal, let me know.

Yours, Cirt (talk) 17:38, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Your latest response and the tone used is unfortunate, and I take it from your lack of a response to my comment here that perhaps it is best for me to take a break from this particular portal. I wish you the best on it, and I want you to know that I do value your work and your contributions. Hopefully we can interact positively on future collaborations in a civil manner. Cirt (talk) 06:19, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, I might come back to it at some point, but RichardF (talk · contribs) seems to agree with me that it is best for me to take a break from that portal for a bit, and I respect his input. I would encourage you to seek out his advice. And of course feel free to drop me a note if you are having particular trouble with something. Cirt (talk) 06:37, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

As an aside, excellent work on Four Freedoms (Norman Rockwell), well done. Cirt (talk) 06:21, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Added that article into rotation at Portal:Journalism, thanks for your contributions. Cirt (talk) 06:32, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Rush Street FAC

I'm upgrading to netural. Quite a few photos have been swapped out and relate better to the topic at hand. The article is sound, but in comparison to other encyclopedia articles, there are so many photos strewn around that they might be better served moved to a gallery of sorts. Imzadi1979 (talk) 22:39, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

P.S. I invite you to take a look at the M-35 (Michigan highway) FAC for comments/suggestions/critiques. A fresh perspective is always welcome. Imzadi1979 (talk) 22:44, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Fixed your concerns at the FAC. Any further comments or suggestions are appreciated. Imzadi1979 (talk) 16:10, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Put it in the lead. Also the airport mention was updated per your suggestion. Imzadi1979 (talk) 17:39, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Any other suggestions? Imzadi1979 (talk) 18:45, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

There are still more photos in that article than any other FA I've seen. While you've swapped out a bunch to make the current selection more relevant, and the templates help to reduce the clutter I'm still not sure about the overall quantity of photos there. You have two and three photos in a template where other articles use a single photo to illustrate a point. I've yet to see any other articles using that template yet to gauge my acceptance of it yet. Imzadi1979 (talk) 18:11, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, since the template is so new, you're bound to encounter resistance until the Wikicommunity at large sees it in use. Imzadi1979 (talk) 18:28, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Prairie Avenue looks fine except the width of the template at 5 images wide. Also, I don't recall those templates in use when I last read through that article though, meaning they are newer than the Prairie Avenue FAC. I hope you're not trying to use one FA to justify a newer practice in another. Imzadi1979 (talk) 18:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

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Purged images in the intro

No, I don't believe there is an policy which is relevant or even stated within the boundaries of promoting featured portals that states that changing images is mandatory; that said of course, there is opinion, and I know for certain that Cirt (talk · contribs) does prefer to use this sort of rotation in preparation for the numerous FPOCs he's had over the past few weeks/months. I am certainly partial to not having the rotating, but as I say, its personal preference. If this is down to just the Chicago Portal, I'd ensure to get broader consensus at FPR. Regards, Rudget (Help?) 18:23, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Portals

While I cannot speak on behalf of all coordinators, I think we like to see rotations instead of monthly update. A lot of featured portals should have been delisted because they were updated frequently only when going through the nomination. After that, the maintainer just forget about it and move on. Having rotations saves time. I personally update Portal:Environment once every 2-3 months and having rotations saves me a lot of trouble (not to mention the feeling of reading something new everytime you go there). OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 21:29, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Trump Tower Chicago

The article is great; I am very confident that it will pass. Well done! I especially like your use of the mutiple image template to display construction progress. After the article becomes a GA, you should strive for it to become a featured article. You may be happy to know that List of tallest buildings in Chicago is the next list to be brought up to FL status after List of tallest buildings in Denver is finished. Alaskan assassin has been working on creating articles for all of the redlinked buildings for awhile now, so hopefully it will be ready for FLC soon. I will comment/vote at LOTD today; I have really not edited Wikipedia at all over the past week, as I have been too busy. Cheers, Rai•me 22:10, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

That building is River Plaza: [1], [2]. The building is 525 feet tall, and is currently #70 on List of tallest buildings in Chicago. But as of now, it is a redlink. Cheers, Rai•me 23:07, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't know about the Roanoke Building's landmark status. For the Roanoke contriversye, you may want to consider posting a question at WP:NRHP. But as for the land being set aside as a park by Trump, it appears that that is correct. This source clearly states that a "fact" about the Trump Tower is its:

Riverfront Park and Riverwalk: 1.2 acre park with 500 lineal feet along the Chicago River

I am guessing that this would include the land between Wrigley and Trump Tower, as I doubt that the narrow strip of land between the river and the tower itself would account for 1.2 acres. Cheers, Rai•me 19:53, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Walden Galleria

I thought they built a new theater there? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 03:25, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• Source 2 in the article says "Demolition of the recently vacated The Bon-Ton department store to make way for the new home of a 12-screen Regal Cinemas movie complex on the upper level and a Barnes & Noble superstore on the lower level." Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 03:34, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• No, I've never even set foot in New York State. I think I've re-worded it enough to clarify that the theater complex is new. By the way, do you think that the Walden Galleria page is anywhere near WP:GA status, lack of pictures aside? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 03:57, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

WP:HAU

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María del Luján Telpuk

That was not a review, I just happened to read the article and thought I'd make some suggestions for improvement. The review is Noble Story's since he's marked it as 'on hold'. Considering it's been on hold for over a month - and it's really not supposed to be for more than a week - you might wanna give him a nudge. Lampman ^{Talk to me!} 13:03, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I've given Noble Story a nudge on this and other GA nominated articles that he had placed on hold about a month ago; he is suffering from burnout and is withdrawing from reviewing this and the other two articles he had taken on (Dravidian parties, and Minority Treaties). These three articles now constitute a bit of a snafu; I've tasked myself to clean it up and am starting with Dravidian parties simply because its the oldest and first in the queue, by a few days. Since Noble Story is out of the picture, but has left a partial review on the article, I am going to ask for a second opinion editor to review the work that Noble Story has done on this article and conclude the review. If this article is still in play when I conclude the Dravidian parties review, I'll take it on. That will be a few days, however, for I am from a careful, conscientious school of GA reviewing. Apologies that you have been waiting so long on this article and have gotten caught up in this tangle. Since you have submitted a good number of articles in the past, however, I trust that you can appreciate how the Good Article review pipeline can get tangled up from time to time. Take care. Post any questions, comments or concerns here or on my talk page. Gosgood (talk) 14:13, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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Roanoke Building

Got your inquiry. No further news that would change what I believe is now in the Roanoke Building article (mention of it as NRHP, no mention of NHL because it is not an NHL). The newspaper article author did not get back to me. The only other source citing NHL referred to that article. At WP:NRHP, i raised the question of whether we would have heard of any new NHL announcement, and consensus is that we would have, by general news announcments, by press releases from the U.S. Secretary of the Interior, and by news notices in the National Park Service NHL webpages.

The only thing further you might do, to add to the article anyhow, is request the NRHP/NHL nomination documents for the site. It may have been nominated for NHL but been rejected for that, as not sufficiently meritorious by the NHL's higher standards, but accepted for NRHP. Request by email to nr_reference (at) nps.gov, provide a postal mail address to receive copies of the documents and accompanying photos, etc. in a week or two's time. Hope this helps. doncram (talk) 06:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, we have been sure that it is listed on NRHP, because we did have the "New Listing" webpage source at the Department of the Interior. However, that new listing URL is no longer valid, so I updated the reference in the article just now to point to the main NRIS search screen. This is the best practice available, there is no way to link to a static webpage for the Lumber Exchange Building and Tower Addition specifically. doncram (talk) 07:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

In response to your new request for same, to WP:NRHP, Ivoshandor further added back a link to the "New Listings". I don't know if it is for a different URL than was there before, but this one works at least right now. So it is doubly/triple verified, if you like. However, double verification in the article is not needed: you could just delete one of the references; i would choose to delete that extra New Listings footnote. The NRIS search reference is fully adequate. doncram (talk) 01:40, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Great Start on the Philip Roosevelt Article

Tony - I was totally unaware of this man's contributions to aviation so your article was really exciting. I read that account on the early problems of coordination and the development of US Army Aviation tactics in the Great War and it was really interesting. Are you any relation to the Roosevelts or to Philip J. Roosevelt II, of Chappaqua, N.Y.? SimonATL (talk) 08:23, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

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Re: LOTM

No problem, glad I could help out. Sure, I'll vote when I get the chance. Happy editing, Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 16:12, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Chicago Downtown Aerial View

Hi, I think someone nominated Image:Chicago Downtown Aerial View.jpg as an FP a few years ago but it was rejected because of the low quality. A high res version would probably go through but I don't have one. Thanks for considering it worthy of an FP :) sikander (talk) 16:57, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Yep, right here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Siqbal/Archive_20080412#Featured_Picture_Candidate

Malcolm Baker

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--BorgQueen (talk) 17:30, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Protections

I protected those articles (and the rest of the geography FAs) only against pagemoves. We've had a problem with a serial pagemove vandal moving all the prominent geography articles. I don't see any reason why any of these would need to be moved without discussion of the move. NawlinWiki (talk) 23:39, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Roanoke Building

Status confirmed. Reference to weekly list added. IvoShandor (talk) 00:24, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Re:Hello

Hey Tony, long time no chat. I am as of right now, very busy, and don't think I am going to be able to participate in the feature list section. What I can promise is that I am going to be working on a bunch of lists to hopefully get up to feature status soon, and think this project you have going on is a great idea to get lists known by others out there.

On a side note, I have been playing catch-up, and noticed that almost all your pictures are not on the WikiCommons? Is there any reason why you aren't uploading them on there? Is it a licensing issue? I thought you were releasing them all to the public domain when I tagged a bunch of them with categories and IL tags. Eventually, I am going to have Satyrbot get me a list of all photos in Illinois related articles, so I can get them moved over to Commons if they fit into that freely released. Anyways, gotta run for now, but I will try and keep an eye on that Feature List page in the future.--Kranar drogin (talk) 03:12, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Barry Bonds

The article Barry Bonds you nominated as a good article has failed , see Talk:Barry Bonds for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of said article. If you oppose this decision, you may ask for a reassessment. Ice Cold Beer (talk) 05:57, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 19 May, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article John Benjamin Murphy, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Gatoclass (talk) 06:40, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Jackson article

Your speed of response and positive approach are admirable. We can do this. Later today I will post my comments on the second half. I will continue to help in every way I can. Brianboulton (talk) 09:24, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I tend to get into trouble with hide templates. I will cross out what I believe is resolved. Brianboulton (talk) 22:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I'll put it on hold if you wish. Brianboulton (talk) 23:55, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

María del Luján Telpuk

Yes, I actually did, the sources have "del" instead of "de" in the girl's name. Gothbag (talk) 14:10, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Los Angeles Times uses the "del" and on Google, a search with all the words gives more results with "María del Luján Telpuk". Gothbag (talk) 14:25, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

RE:Venezuela

It was meant to. If you have a look at {{WP Venezuela}}, it is a soft redirect to {{WikiProject South America}}. There is a provision in the South America template to include Venezuela=yes and Venezuela-importance= which is intended to make the Venezuela project template redundant. I have removed the Venezuela one and replaced it with the provisions. I haven't filled out the importance rating, I leave to that someone from the project. Regards. Woody (talk) 14:36, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

FIFA World Cup hat-tricks

(re LOTD) Maybe June 11, for the start of the 2010 FIFA World Cup, and/or June 10, when the last hat-trick was scored. Probably not good to have them on consecutive days, though :)

Re: My LotD's

Thanks for the heads up. I don't have any specific date, but I'd like if the two were on opposite sides of the month. Cheers. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:58, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

That's great, thanks! Like above, I don't have any specific dates. Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 03:38, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to request June 4th, for no better reason than that was date the last NL election held in June took place. Tompw (talk) (review) 17:49, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Buffalo Sabres head coaches

I've taken care of all your comments in this FLC. Thanks, « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie ^{( talk / contribs)} 19:59, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Done « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie ^{( talk / contribs)} 21:27, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Done (again) « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie ^{( talk / contribs)} 01:06, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Re:Maps

I think that that is a great idea. I did not know of the map "creator" on the U.S. Census Bureau site until you brought it up, so thank you. But yes, maps will greatly add to the articles. Your method of using <br/><br/> on the Trump Tower article seems to work well, but I agree that posting on the infobox talk pages and requesting the addition of a new paramater to the template would be the best option.

Oh, and I plan to remain involved in LOTD in the future months. I just lost track of time, as usual... :) Hopefully that will not happen again. Cheers, Rai•me 20:07, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Template:World's most populated urban areas

Hi. Five columns are squashed on smaller window/screen sizes, so recommend the previous four-column version or something like it. Sardanaphalus (talk) 03:31, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

• Just checked it on my 1024-by-768ish-sized browser window here and yes, it's less squashed, but the hyphenated names (in the fifth column) are still wrapping. I'd favor non-wrapping names, which I guess means four columns, but maybe you don't..? Sardanaphalus (talk) 03:47, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

  Not a problem, just that it doesn't look so great. Sardanaphalus (talk) 13:07, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Jack Kemp

I've some catching up to do before I can spare much time for Kemp - perhaps I'll come in when he returns to FAC. If you ever feel like a break from politics you might like to look at one or other of my polar exploration articles. Brianboulton (talk) 09:47, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I didn't mean to imply that you only do political stuff, its just that you seem to have a lot on in that area at the moment. I currently have an article on GAN - Scottish National Antarctic Expedition. I also have Nimrod Expedition shortly coming to FAC. Others are further down the pipleine. Your comments welcomed. Brianboulton (talk) 16:56, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Photo on Flickr

Hello, TonyTheTiger, just a note and not urgent. This photo looked great and I would have uploaded it, but the Chicago articles are plumb full of good photos. Maybe you'll know if it belongs in the commons. Best wishes. —SusanLesch (talk) 04:13, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

How fun. Added at left for now on Chicago Water Tower and Park Tower. Thank you for your advice. —SusanLesch (talk) 08:06, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: SatyrTN/SatyrBot

No, the LGBTProject has not replaced SatyrBot. I keep hoping he'll be back soon, but I don't know when it will be... In the meantime, our to-do list which SatyrBot regularly updated is not being updated at all. :( Aleta ^Sing 03:31, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Buffalo Sabres head coaches

I fixed the errors with WP:DASH. Also - I changed Floyd Smith's winning percentage using the formula on the note. I can't find a source though. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie ^{( talk / contribs)} 14:31, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

heller house

Hello Mr. Tiger, I am sorry to inform you that the information on the residents of the heller house is outdated and some of the information is not completely factually correct. I have attempted to change it in the past but it has been rudely changed. I just chose to once again inform you of your errors. Sincerely yours pndan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.42.89.149 (talk) 20:11, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Scottish National Anarctic Expedition

Thanks for the review, which was stimulating, and for the promotion. I'm sure our paths will cross again. Brianboulton (talk) 22:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Little context in Category:Discographies of Chicago musicians and musical groups

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I think you're adding the Wikiproject Popular culture template wrong

I think you might be placing that template on articles beyond that Wikiproject's scope. The project is concerned with "in popular cultre" type articles, like Jayne Mansfield in popular culture or Frogs in popular culture. Articles about major figures in popular culture would probably go under the scope of a different wikiproject. --NickPenguin_(contribs) 01:39, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Rush Street (Chicago)

Hey,

Just FYI, I made most of the updates to the Rush St. map as you requested. Notes added on the MTF page.

25or6to4 (talk) 13:01, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Survey

It appears the survey was conducted concurrently with the Illinois Historic Sites Survey (1971-1975). Seems some of the records are available through HAARGIS, you can use the query builder to search by survey type. I doubt its the only pool of potential landmarks, it's too old to be the only source, but it has likely assisted in many landmark designations, that and crooked politics. God loves Chicago, if for nothing else, the number of politicians who have been to prison. :)IvoShandor (talk) 21:08, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay, looking a bit further it appears the years of the survey were 1974-1993. Still old, but likely to be a large amount of information. The query on HAARGIS will only show 1500 results, and not all of them have links to the background material from the surveys. --IvoShandor (talk) 22:48, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Pictures

I haven't gone on the photo expedition yet - digital cameras in our household continually being lent out, swapped, lost is a factor, plus this d-d old house, work, other WP articles, etc. The idea is beginning to seem dreamlike...my place of birth, Jackson Park Hospital, doesn't even have a WP entry, much less a photo..Anyway thanks for the source and surely the trip will happen this summer. Best wishes, Novickas (talk) 23:39, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:Ferry field derived from Aerial University of Michigan image.JPG listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Ferry field derived from Aerial University of Michigan image.JPG, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. ЭLСОВВОLД _talk 03:03, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry for the template; it's an unintended by-product of Twinkle. I think I know where to get a PD version of Ferry. I'll let you know. ЭLСОВВОLД _talk 03:07, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, per this, I won't go on the PD hunt. I'll strike on the FAC when the notice of the OTRS ticket is posted. Going forward, it might be helpful to ensure images for which you have confirmed permission contrary to what is asserted by the source have proper notice before coming to FAC. ЭLСОВВОLД _talk 03:17, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Murphy's Honours

your point is taken about this commission belonging in the article. but it doesn't belong in a list of honours. knighthoods are honours.nobel prizes are honours. honourary degrees are honours. maybe being elevated to general officer or flag rank is an honour. a commission as a first lieutenant is pretty ordinary. also, i think it's probably army reserve medical corps not 'army medical reserve corps'. but it's getting very late. i'll take this up tomorrow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toyokuni3 (talk • contribs) 05:11, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Germany Schulz

Thanks for putting the Germany Schulz article up for FA status. I will try to help this weekend, if not sooner, on this. Is there any kind of time deadline like there is for a GA review? Cbl62 (talk) 05:19, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Peter Wall

Hi. I responded to your comments at FAC. My understanding is that an infobox is not required. I understand that some hate them, some love them; I'm fairly neutral and in fact usually use them, but think that in this case it wouldn't add much. I'd love a picture of Wall, too, but doubt that there is one we can use. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 08:02, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

A More Perfect Union: Advancing New American Rights

On 29 May, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article A More Perfect Union: Advancing New American Rights, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 11:24, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

A More Perfect Union

Great new article! And on one of my personal favorites...keep up the good work! Savidan 15:28, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Trump International Hotel and Tower (Chicago) and Rush Street (Chicago)

TonyTheTiger, I know you obviously like photographs, as evident from two of your articles, Trump International Hotel and Tower (Chicago) and Rush Street (Chicago). I have edited both of these to reduce the number of images (I have actually removed the thumbnail galleries). As Ruhrfisch (talk · contribs) rightly said at Rush Street's peer review: "When there are so many images crammed into tiny thumbnails, none of them really stands out or adds much to the article. By trying to include everything, you add nothing (or by trying not to lose any images, you essentially lose them all)." - I couldn't have said it any better myself. Lots of little, hard to see, thumbnails is certainly not better than fewer, but much larger and more meaningful images. Please understand that Wikipedia is not an image gallery, and that is what Wikimedia Commons is for. In regards to both of these articles (Trump Tower and Rush Street), I recommend a full copyedit by an editor new to the text. Please see both Peer review/volunteers and LOCE/Members for lists of people who can help. Do not hesitate to contact a few people on their Talk pages! I hope my edits and advise have been of use to you in improving your articles. — Wackymacs (talk ~ edits) 19:31, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

It is understandable that you reverted my edits (but also predictable). At the moment, it seems to be you v. everyone else here. At the FAC, Rush Street failed mostly because of your use of too many images. The same applies to the Trump International Hotel and Tower article. You have the full capability of moving the images to the Commons page - they are not thrown out, they're still here. It is also useful for you to fully understand why images are used in articles. It's not all about appearance, but also meaning. On the Trump page, you have images of the exact same thing three times, in those thumbnail galleries. Why are you not more selective with your images? When you've got three images of the exact same thing, just choose the best one. I would like for us to come to a general agreement on this. Even though that particular Trump tower is under construction, this does not make it an exception when it comes to appropriate use of images. Indeed, readers might like to look at a few construction progress images - but the Wikimedia Commons will always serve this purpose better than Wikipedia, as it was created with multimedia storage in mind, whereas Wikipedia is intended as a comprehensive encyclopedia. As evident from the Rush Street FAC and peer review, editors do not like the thumbnail galleries and do not think they are beneficial to Wikipedia readers. In addition, it is also important to note that, as one of the world's most popular websites, Wikipedia is visited by people on a range of screen resolutions from as small as 640 x 480 and 800 x 600. At those resolutions, your articles would be most difficult to read. Please reconsider this, and if you agree with my advice, revert back to my previous revision which uses images in a more wise and selective manner. If you still disagree, I hope we can come to similar terms - and I might also consult the attention of other editors who have experience dealing with FA-class articles (assuming that's where you want your articles to end up.) — Wackymacs (talk ~ edits) 21:52, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

DEFAULTSORT on talk pages

Could you explain the purpose of this? It seems rather pointless to me. Wizardman 01:47, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Sort keys in {{WPBannerMeta}}

You're right, and it's confusing me somewhat, because I can't see what's changed in terms of the sortkeys since I switched the banners over. Both before and after all the categories use the sortkey {{PAGENAME}} which means that, as far as I can tell, the defaultsort categorisations should also have been overridden with the old template. If that wasn't the case, then something very wierd is going on. I'll have a look into it, but the solution I'll probably implement is to only add the {{PAGENAME}} sortkey outside the Talk: namespace: for some reason I don't entirely understand the default sortkey if nothing else is specified seems to be {{PAGENAME}} for that namespace and {{FULLPAGENAME}} everywhere else. I'll get back to you if and when I work out what's going on. Happy‑melon 12:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: John Benjamin Murphy

Almost there. I noticed one little detail that needs clarifying before GA. Dr. Cash (talk) 14:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Peter Wall

Hi. I've withdrawn the FAC now, so won't be commenting there any further. But there was something I did want to say, in response to your comment that "It sounds to me that you want a substantive objection." Actually, for what it's worth, I felt your comment was perfectly substantive, and I didn't have a problem with it. But thanks none the less for the further comments. I would have got around to addressing them had the FAC continued longer. And I'm not sure how I feel about working on the article just now, but if I do get back to it, I will certainly refer to these points in any subsequent revision. So, again, thanks. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 06:53, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

(copied from my talk page:) Thanks for this. Not getting hung up on any one article is certainly good advice. Oh, and I wanted to say that I laughed at this comment: "You use the word as more than any writer I recall and use it in many of its half dozen or so forms (adj., con, etc.)." You're quite right! --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 08:23, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

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Expansion of Millennium Park, Lakeshore East and related articles

I just wanted to say that you have been amazing when it comes to these expanding these articles. I currently live in one of the buildings of Lakeshore East and have been very interested in expanding the related articles. I briefly started but then got a bit sidetracked. You, however, have rekindled my interest in the project. Let me know if there is anything specific you would like me to help with, otherwise I look forward to working with you to further expand these articles. Torsodog (talk) 08:06, 31 May 2008 (UTC)