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Editing News #1—July 2019
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Did you know?
Did you know that you can use the visual editor on a mobile device?
Every article has a pencil icon at the top. Tap on the pencil icon 
to start editing.
Edit Cards
This is what the new Edit Cards for editing links in the mobile visual editor look like. You can try the prototype here: 📲 Try Edit Cards.
Welcome back to the Editing newsletter.
Since the last newsletter, the team has released two new features for the mobile visual editor and has started developing three more. All of this work is part of the team's goal to make editing on mobile web simpler.
Before talking about the team's recent releases, we have a question for you:
Are you willing to try a new way to add and change links?
If you are interested, we would value your input! You can try this new link tool in the mobile visual editor on a separate wiki.
Follow these instructions and share your experience:
Recent releases
The mobile visual editor is a simpler editing tool, for smartphones and tablets using the mobile site. The Editing team has recently launched two new features to improve the mobile visual editor:
- Section editing
- The purpose is to help contributors focus on their edits.
- The team studied this with an A/B test. This test showed that contributors who could use section editing were 1% more likely to publish the edits they started than people with only full-page editing.
- Loading overlay
- The purpose is to smooth the transition between reading and editing.
Section editing and the new loading overlay are now available to everyone using the mobile visual editor.
New and active projects
This is a list of our most active projects. Watch these pages to learn about project updates and to share your input on new designs, prototypes and research findings.
- Edit cards: This is a clearer way to add and edit links, citations, images, templates, etc. in articles. You can try this feature now. Go here to see how: 📲Try Edit Cards.
- Mobile toolbar refresh: This project will learn if contributors are more successful when the editing tools are easier to recognize.
- Mobile visual editor availability: This A/B test asks: Are newer contributors more successful if they use the mobile visual editor? We are collaborating with 20 Wikipedias to answer this question.
- Usability improvements: This project will make the mobile visual editor easier to use. The goal is to let contributors stay focused on editing and to feel more confident in the editing tools.
Looking ahead
- Wikimania: Several members of the Editing Team will be attending Wikimania in August 2019. They will lead a session about mobile editing in the Community Growth space. Talk to them about how editing can be improved.
- Talk Pages: In the coming months, the Editing Team will begin improving talk pages and communication on the wikis.
Learning more
The VisualEditor on mobile is a good place to learn more about the projects we are working on. The team wants to talk with you about anything related to editing. If you have something to say or ask, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.
PPelberg (WMF) (talk) and Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:25, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
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Editing News #2 – Mobile editing and talk pages – October 2019
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Inside this newsletter, the Editing team talks about their work on the mobile visual editor, on the new talk pages project, and at Wikimania 2019.
Help
What talk page interactions do you remember? Is it a story about how someone helped you to learn something new? Is it a story about how someone helped you get involved in a group? Something else? Whatever your story is, we want to hear it!
Please tell us a story about how you used a talk page. Please share a link to a memorable discussion, or describe it on the talk page for this project. The team would value your examples. These examples will help everyone develop a shared understanding of what this project should support and encourage.
Talk Pages
The Talk Pages Consultation was a global consultation to define better tools for wiki communication. From February through June 2019, more than 500 volunteers on 20 wikis, across 15 languages and multiple projects, came together with members of the Foundation to create a product direction for a set of discussion tools. The Phase 2 Report of the Talk Page Consultation was published in August. It summarizes the product direction the team has started to work on, which you can read more about here: Talk Page Project project page.
The team needs and wants your help at this early stage. They are starting to develop the first idea. Please add your name to the "Getting involved" section of the project page, if you would like to hear about opportunities to participate.
Mobile visual editor
The Editing team is trying to make it simpler to edit on mobile devices. The team is changing the visual editor on mobile. If you have something to say about editing on a mobile device, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.
- On 3 September, the Editing team released version 3 of Edit Cards. Anyone could use the new version in the mobile visual editor.
- There is an updated design on the Edit Card for adding and modifying links. There is also a new, combined workflow for editing a link's display text and target.
- Feedback: You can try the new Edit Cards by opening the mobile visual editor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the Edit cards talk page.
- In September, the Editing team updated the mobile visual editor's editing toolbar. Anyone could see these changes in the mobile visual editor.
- One toolbar: All of the editing tools are located in one toolbar. Previously, the toolbar changed when you clicked on different things.
- New navigation: The buttons for moving forward and backward in the edit flow have changed.
- Seamless switching: an improved workflow for switching between the visual and wikitext modes.
- Feedback: You can try the refreshed toolbar by opening the mobile VisualEditor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the Toolbar feedback talk page.
Wikimania
The Editing Team attended Wikimania 2019 in Sweden. They led a session on the mobile visual editor and a session on the new talk pages project. They tested two new features in the mobile visual editor with contributors. You can read more about what the team did and learned in the team's report on Wikimania 2019.
Looking ahead
- Talk Pages Project: The team is thinking about the first set of proposed changes. The team will be working with a few communities to pilot those changes. The best way to stay informed is by adding your username to the list on the project page: Getting involved.
- Testing the mobile visual editor as the default: The Editing team plans to post results before the end of the calendar year. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: VisualEditor as mobile default project page.
- Measuring the impact of Edit Cards: The Editing team hopes to share results in November. This study asks whether the project helped editors add links and citations. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: Edit Cards project page.
– PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 16:51, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
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Orange High School - Orange, CA == Please help to remove an uploaded image.
I was asked to remove the Orange High Crest logo from the Orange High Page. I've since reverted back to the Diamond Black Panther, but I would like to remove the Crest logo from the history page so that others can't download the PNG file. Please let me know how I may go about doing this. Thank you. Please remove the following image: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/d/dd/20200317204932%21Orange_High_School_Logo.jpg Mjacoby1973 (talk) 00:55, 18 March 2020 (UTC) mjacoby1973 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjacoby1973 (talk • contribs) 19:57, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Mjacoby1973: Hi there Mjacoby1973, if I understand your situation correctly, you want that logo deleted since someone asked you to; probably because it isn't freely licensed and logos need to comply if they aren't as per the non free content guidelines. To properly upload this logo, you'll need to upload a new file: lower resolution and fill in the non-free related information--where I can get someone to help you if you want. This page might be a useful.
- Either way, I've tagged it so that it gets a 'proper' deletion since you've requested it. This small problem should be sorted, for now. Let me know if you need help elsewhere or want to upload that logo properly. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 17:30, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
- Yes please and thank you. Here is the direct link to the file I would like removed: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/d/dd/20200317204932%21Orange_High_School_Logo.jpg
Thanks so much!! Mjacoby1973 (talk) 17:38, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
Editing news 2020 #1 – Discussion tools
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The Editing team has been working on the talk pages project. The goal of the talk pages project is to help contributors communicate on wiki more easily. This project is the result of the Talk pages consultation 2019.
The team is building a new tool for replying to comments now. This early version can sign and indent comments automatically. Please test the new Reply tool.
- On 31 March 2020, the new reply tool was offered as a Beta Feature editors at four Wikipedias: Arabic, Dutch, French, and Hungarian. If your community also wants early access to the new tool, contact User:Whatamidoing (WMF).
- The team is planning some upcoming changes. Please review the proposed design and share your thoughts on the talk page. The team will test features such as:
- an easy way to mention another editor ("pinging"),
- a rich-text visual editing option, and
- other features identified through user testing or recommended by editors.
To hear more about Editing Team updates, please add your name to the "Get involved" section of the project page. You can also watch 
these pages: the main project page, Updates, Replying, and User testing.
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Editing news 2020 #2 – Quick updates
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This edition of the Editing newsletter includes information the Wikipedia:Talk pages project, an effort to help contributors communicate on wiki more easily. The central project page is on MediaWiki.org.
- Reply tool: This is available as a Beta Feature at the four partner wikis (Arabic, Dutch, French, and Hungarian Wikipedias). The Beta Feature will get new features soon. The new features include writing comments in a new visual editing mode and pinging other users by typing
@. You can test the new features on the Beta Cluster. Some other wikis will have a chance to try the Beta Feature in the coming months. - New requirements for user signatures: Soon, users will not be able to save invalid custom signatures in Special:Preferences. This will reduce signature spoofing, prevent page corruption, and make new talk page tools more reliable. Most editors will not be affected.
- New discussion tool: The Editing team is beginning work on a simpler process for starting new discussions. You can see the initial design on the project page.
- Research on the use of talk pages: The Editing team worked with the Wikimedia research team to study how talk pages help editors improve articles. We learned that new editors who use talk pages make more edits to the main namespace than new editors who don't use talk pages.
Editing news 2020 #3
Seven years ago this week, the Editing team made the visual editor available by default to all logged-in editors using the desktop site at the English Wikipedia. Here's what happened since its introduction:
- The 50 millionth edit using the visual editor on desktop was made this year. More than 10 million edits have been made here at the English Wikipedia.
- More than 2 million new articles have been created in the visual editor. More than 600,000 of these new articles were created during 2019.
- Almost 5 million edits on the mobile site have been made with the visual editor. Most of these edits have been made since the Editing team started improving the mobile visual editor in 2018.
- The proportion of all edits made using the visual editor has been increasing every year.
- Editors have made more than 7 million edits in the 2017 wikitext editor, including starting 600,000 new articles in it. The 2017 wikitext editor is VisualEditor's built-in wikitext mode. You can enable it in your preferences.
- On 17 November 2019, the first edit from outer space was made in the mobile visual editor.
- In 2019, 35% of the edits by newcomers, and half of their first edits, were made using the visual editor. This percentage has been increasing every year since the tool became available.
Editing news 2020 #4
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Reply tool
The Reply tool has been available as a Beta Feature at the Arabic, Dutch, French and Hungarian Wikipedias since 31 March 2020. The first analysis showed positive results.
- More than 300 editors used the Reply tool at these four Wikipedias. They posted more than 7,400 replies during the study period.
- Of the people who posted a comment with the Reply tool, about 70% of them used the tool multiple times. About 60% of them used it on multiple days.
- Comments from Wikipedia editors are positive. One said, أعتقد أن الأداة تقدم فائدة ملحوظة؛ فهي تختصر الوقت لتقديم رد بدلًا من التنقل بالفأرة إلى وصلة تعديل القسم أو الصفحة، التي تكون بعيدة عن التعليق الأخير في الغالب، ويصل المساهم لصندوق التعديل بسرعة باستخدام الأداة. ("I think the tool has a significant impact; it saves time to reply while the classic way is to move with a mouse to the Edit link to edit the section or the page which is generally far away from the comment. And the user reaches to the edit box so quickly to use the Reply tool.")[1]
The Editing team released the Reply tool as a Beta Feature at eight other Wikipedias in early August. Those Wikipedias are in the Chinese, Czech, Georgian, Serbian, Sorani Kurdish, Swedish, Catalan, and Korean languages. If you would like to use the Reply tool at your wiki, please tell User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF).
The Reply tool is still in active development. Per request from the Dutch Wikipedia and other editors, you will be able to customize the edit summary. (The default edit summary is "Reply".) A "ping" feature is available in the Reply tool's visual editing mode. This feature searches for usernames. Per request from the Arabic Wikipedia, each wiki will be able to set its own preferred symbol for pinging editors. Per request from editors at the Japanese and Hungarian Wikipedias, each wiki can define a preferred signature prefix in the page MediaWiki:Discussiontools-signature-prefix. For example, some languages omit spaces before signatures. Other communities want to add a dash or a non-breaking space.
New requirements for user signatures
- The new requirements for custom user signatures began on 6 July 2020. If you try to create a custom signature that does not meet the requirements, you will get an error message.
- Existing custom signatures that do not meet the new requirements will be unaffected temporarily. Eventually, all custom signatures will need to meet the new requirements. You can check your signature and see lists of active editors whose custom signatures need to be corrected. Volunteers have been contacting editors who need to change their custom signatures. If you need to change your custom signature, then please read the help page.
Next: New discussion tool
Next, the team will be working on a tool for quickly and easily starting a new discussion section to a talk page. To follow the development of this new tool, please put the New Discussion Tool project page on your watchlist.
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what is the wrong in that link at Polycystic_ovary_syndrome
Hi Ugog Nizdast, what is the wrong in that link you removed in the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycystic_ovary_syndrome. Please let me know. I have submitted the exact link having a good information but why you are considering the link as spam. its reflect on my personal enthusiasm. Could you please guide me on this. Thank you. Pulakhandams (talk) 06:04, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Pulakhandams. I know you meant your edits well and do not doubt the accuracy of that link. The main issue here is it fails our Reliable sources guideline, particularly, we have an especially strict guideline for medicine-related articles - see WP:MEDRS. It means in layperson's terms that we just can't use regular sources for medical articles, only scientific journals. Besides, the link you put doesn't fit our Reliable source guideline itself. Think about it, there must be so many hospitals having their own website and giving information on such topics, unless exceptional, why would they be considered a WP:RS? I hope I said makes sense to you. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 14:17, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Pulakhandams: (testing ping -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 14:21, 26 May 2021 (UTC))
- Hi Ugog Nizdast. Thanks for educating me on medicine related articles. But the link added by me in the Polycystic ovary syndrome had written by expert doctors and they were provided referral links at the bottom of the page those are reliable sources. Could you please check once, As you said every hospital having their own websites and blogs with a lot of content I Agree with that, Although if someone had written the informative article about diseases we should appreciate them. They had written the content by using Reliable medical sources as their referrals, it would be the best one for the user's. This is just my opinion and I always obey with the wiki guidelines as you provided. Please check once before you removing the links and check the entire article including referrals, If the added link doesn't have the proper content and relevant referral links you can delete. Thank you so much for educating me on medicine related articles. For your reference: https://www.yashodahospitals.com/blog/polycystic-ovary-syndrome-pcos/ please check the bottom of the article. Pulakhandams (talk) 13:57, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Pulakhandams: I did check when I removed your links hence I acted accordingly. Blogs, even written by experts, are normally avoided as self-published sources unless there's some exceptional case involved. Like I said, I don't doubt the accuracy of the content or the credibility of the authors. Nor do I doubt your good intent, we all want to improve articles and comply with the guidelines. If you still aren't convinced, you can post your link and where you want to use it at the WP:RSN and another editor may weigh in their opinion.
- On a sidenote and please ignore this completely if I'm wrong, I need to ask this just to rule out the remote possibility. I hope you don't have any professional relations to the hospital mentioned. Conflict of Interest is an issue taken seriously here. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 11:35, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Ugog Nizdast. Thanks for educating me on medicine related articles. But the link added by me in the Polycystic ovary syndrome had written by expert doctors and they were provided referral links at the bottom of the page those are reliable sources. Could you please check once, As you said every hospital having their own websites and blogs with a lot of content I Agree with that, Although if someone had written the informative article about diseases we should appreciate them. They had written the content by using Reliable medical sources as their referrals, it would be the best one for the user's. This is just my opinion and I always obey with the wiki guidelines as you provided. Please check once before you removing the links and check the entire article including referrals, If the added link doesn't have the proper content and relevant referral links you can delete. Thank you so much for educating me on medicine related articles. For your reference: https://www.yashodahospitals.com/blog/polycystic-ovary-syndrome-pcos/ please check the bottom of the article. Pulakhandams (talk) 13:57, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
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Hi there, hope you are doing fine. Expecting your valuable comments here. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 25 Cents FC (talk • contribs) 05:39, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Nice to hear from you and likewise. On Wikibreak so don't edit that much anymore. Though I would like to commend you for taking interest in that important article and wish you luck! Ugog Nizdast (talk) 20:22, 18 July 2021 (UTC)