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Demonym of Bangladesh

Hi you opened a discussion on demonym of Bangladesh and asked for scholarly articles supporting the claim that according to the Bangladesh constitution the nationality of people of Bangladesh is Bengali/ Bangalee. I'm not sure who deleted the discussion you started. But just in case you did not notice that here are the references again:

Ananya Mukherjee and Amena Mohsin for instance critically explained how bengali nationality was adopted in Bangladesh constitution. The writers have been unimpressed by the adoption of Bengali Nationality since not 100% people in Bangladesh are Bengali (98.2%). However their book and articles confirm about the Bengali Nationality adoption by the constitution that was written in 1972.

Reference:

1.Mukherjee, Ananya, 2008, Human Development and Social Power: Perspectives from South Asia, Routledge, New York, page: 111

2. Mohsin, Amena, 2005, "Gendered Nation, Gendered Peace: A Study of Bangladesh" in Peace Process and Peace Accords, Sage Publication, London, page: 226 Shoshanko (talk) 05:53, 21 November 2015 (UTC) Shoshanko (talk) 11:41, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

The discussion got archived here Talk:Bangladesh/Archive_6#Demonym. You can go ahead and start a new discussion, referencing it on the Bangladesh talk page where those interested are watching (unlike my talk page). I'm not familiar with this topic and I participated mainly to facilitate discussion. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:04, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

INCOTM March article

Hello, most probably you have noticed that Environment of India has been selected as the article of the month. In March we'll collaboratively attempt to improve article. Please spend some time and help to improve this article. Regards. --Tito Dutta (talk) 17:41, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

• Thanks for starting works already. --Tito Dutta (talk) 17:41, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

It's already half past the month, let's see what we do. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 18:12, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

• Ya, Yash is saying the same thing, Could you check this discussion here? What is your opinion? --Tito Dutta (talk)

WP:INCOTM

Following the discussion, I have started this section, could you do initial works before we ask the larger team to participate? Or if you have any suggestions, please let me know. --Tito Dutta (talk) 05:41, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Oh you mean, start the page? someone has already beat me to it. However, I'm inclined to oppose the nomination, do you think it's wise to nominate specific geographic locations like that? Ugog Nizdast (talk) 12:46, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

• Apologies, I missed this reply. --Tito Dutta (talk) 18:17, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

UgNBot

Edits that you are making, rather than your bot, such as Special:Diff/710374572, should be made with your account, not with your bot's account. Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:07, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Sure. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 17:12, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Redirecting Shia Islam in India to Islam in India

Since you have contributed to Shia Islam in India, I am asking for your opinion at Talk:Shia Islam in India#Redirecting to Islam in India if article should be merged-redirected to Islam in India. Capitals00 (talk) 16:02, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Done. Let's continue there. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 16:38, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you

Dear Ugog Nizdast. I did not the book in my possession that mentions Akbar's tiger-hunting trip in 1578, but is at the library. I was going to add a ref later today, but thank you for reminding me. Please have a wonderful day!--A.S. Brown (talk) 16:02, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

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Article Has Not Yet Received a Rating

Hello sir, I just created a new page supported by WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers please assess Vishal Vashishtha's page. Best Regards. Puchicatos (talk) 15:16, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

 Doing... Ugog Nizdast (talk) 11:56, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

and  Done Ugog Nizdast (talk) 12:34, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Reply to message received from you

Hi

I have used a reference from a particular website. The website is maintained by a group of private tour operators registered under the India Tourism Development Corporation (ITDC), Govt of India.

Please let me know if you are looking for multiple sources as reference for the edits made. Or if we should stop editing wikipedia if you are not satisfied, with our edits.Viewsinline123 (talk) 20:29, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Please let me know if multiple references is a solution to it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Viewsinline123 (talk • contribs) 20:38, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

@Viewsinline123: I'm finding references which say it's a World Network of Biosphere Reserves but where do I find World Heritage? We need something more reliable, for example, news sources are good enough. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 06:40, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Ok sir, will edit and add better and multiple reliable sources ... for better reference as per your suggestions. .. Viewsinline123 (talk) 04:22, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

@Viewsinline123: So agasthyamalai-biosphere-reserve wasn't there right? Instead you found Rani ki vav and Great Himalayan National Park. Good work. I've cleaned out the non-reliable sources and wikipedia links which were used as refs; the UNESCO link is more than enough, we never use non-RSes and wikipedia iteself as citations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ugog Nizdast (talk • contribs) 14:03, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

GA queries

Hey there, I haven't reviewed a GA in years, but if you have a specific article in mind I might be able to offer some assistance. I'd have to brush up on the current GA standards today though. bibliomaniac15 20:06, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

@Bibliomaniac15: I have two specific questions regarding criteria 2c and 3, which if I'm not wrong, hasn't change much in the past years. Shall I ask them? Ugog Nizdast (talk) 05:50, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Sure, shoot away. bibliomaniac15 18:26, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

@Bibliomaniac15: Here:

1. Criteria 2c requires access to sources: should a reviewer avoid an article where they have not much access to any of the sources given? or fail it if the nominator has partial access themselves?
2. Criteria 3 requires subject knowledge: does that mean one being unfamiliar with the topic should not review it? Ugog Nizdast (talk) 08:42, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

I don't think there's a hard guideline in either case, and I find your interpretations of the criteria intriguing. Depends on how comfortable the user is in the evaluation process. I usually only review articles I have some knowledge and interest in. I might not have access to every source but I can always ask the nominator or someone with access at WP:RX. Though it's ideal for someone with subject knowledge to review, I don't think unfamiliarity should disqualify a user from reviewing. That's why we have "second opinion" options for GAN. bibliomaniac15 17:31, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

@Bibliomaniac15: Thanks so much for your answers, I've updated the essay Wikipedia:FA_and_GA_answered_queries. These were the first questions I had ever since I started reviewing. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 18:54, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you

Dear UgogNizdast, sorry for being late in getting to you, but thank you for your kind words. I have replied to your comment on the Mughal emperors talkpage. Please have a wonderful day!--A.S. Brown (talk) 01:18, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

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Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at India. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be undone.

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@Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi: huh? Ugog Nizdast (talk) 15:41, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

I do apologise. I thought your figures were OR, when in fact you were reverting it! Sorry; I'll have trout for tea cheers! _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 15:45, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Hey, no problem. Have a good day. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 15:47, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Cheers! You too. _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 15:47, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

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Kent Hovind

Why did you change what I did on kent hovind — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freekenthovind (talk • contribs) 18:23, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

@Freekenthovind: Because it was unsourced and not neutral. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 18:28, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

@Ugog Nizdast your version of kent is not neutral, it accuse him of tax evading, but the IRS admit thier wrongdoing about his case. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freekenthovind (talk • contribs) 19:46, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

The same conversation is taking place on my talk page. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 19:51, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

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Sorry

Sorry for the bad comments my friends have done it as well Ky475buddah (talk) 11:57, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

For the bad comments Ky475buddah (talk) 11:59, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

@Ky475buddah: Not a problem. Have a nice day. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 12:01, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Have you ever got a problem wit）h Wikipedia： Ky475buddah (talk) 12:06, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Are you just a computer Ky475buddah (talk) 12:08, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Vandalism

Please help in this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_founders_of_religious_traditions

The people israeli did exist since 1200 b.C and was polytheist, the bible since 745 b.c. and JUDAISM since 586 b.c.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Israel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dating_the_Bible https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism#History — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.79.194.90 (talk) 03:03, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Responded on your talk as well as on the article talk page. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 14:24, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Rajdeep Sardesai

This is regards to the message posted on my edit on the same . 'Please stop adding unreferenced or poorly referenced biographical content, especially if controversial, to articles or any other Wikipedia page, as you did at Rajdeep Sardesai. Content of this nature could be regarded as defamatory and is in violation of Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia'

I don't understand which part of unreferenced and controversial . Everything written is on public domian . Please check Indian newspapers and media outlets to verify . If you don't understand the context posted here maybe you shouldnt be editing the same .

Please tell me if my content has any copywrite material etc , I will gladly oblige but to say this is unreferenced without verifying the same would be wrong .

I can provide details to you if required . I am very respectful of Wiki community and been contributor to the same and will never break existing rules of the same . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sharathpes2004 (talk • contribs) 08:07, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

@Sharathpes2004: There are various problems with your edit but I'll explain the main reasons why it's not acceptable. By now, you may know our WP:BLP policy (if not, read at minimum the top paras from this link). Other two relevant guidelines here are WP:UNDUE and WP:NOTNEWS. We do not put or give undue coverage to everyday events like social media happenings or other events which are really major instances on their life in their biographies. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 05:11, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Pavel Florensky

Re the removal as a third editor moved in, I don't know the specifics of how Third Opinion operates, but the third editor could be seen to be involved. In justice to User:Afterwriting, I think it would be better to have a complete outside opinion review the complaint, read closely the edits and arguments, and also assist us in resolving this, just so fairness is guaranteed. Regards.Nishidani (talk) 16:29, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

This editor's post seems minimal enough I guess, so feel free to repost it at WP:3O explaining that you both would like another 3O post and that editor isn't involved. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 21:19, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

Sufism

Hello, Ugog Nizdast -- Do you have Sufism on your watch list? Some IP editors have been editing the article. See this latest edit. If you have time, I wonder if you would just take a look at the edits. While you're there, perhaps you could check mine, which are just before the IP edits. I wonder if I did the right thing when I added "the name of" in a caption. If not, please feel free to remove those added words.  – Corinne (talk) 03:04, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

@Corinne: No I don't, but am content to take a look if you feel it's worthwhile if I do it. The diff looks like a test edit since it just an unexplained removal of half the sentence. Both the different IP edits seem to have been rectified by someone else.

"The name of" is a tricky bit. At first, I thought maybe ""Allah" written..." would suffice but not knowing the language, it could be some other name. File:Isma_allah_zat-new.png doesn't offer much in the image description. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 05:29, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Thanks a lot Strike Eagle! Ugog Nizdast (talk) 16:28, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the review!

I appreciate your review and critique on Hari Kondabolu, and your improvements to the article. Thank you and best wishes! Sumana Harihareswara 00:19, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

No problem, Sumanah. Good luck with further improving the article. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:58, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Gorky article

Greetings. Your wrote about Maxim Gorky's relationship w/ Tolstoy and Chekhov, "Gorky would later write his memoirs on both of them." This makes no sense to me. Could you explain it, or change it please? Tapered (talk) 02:13, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Hey there. I actually didn't mean to add anything new, was expanding the lead section to summarise the rest of the article. Can't remember much, but the subjects of his works show them both (Reminiscences of Tolstoy, Chekhov, and Andreyev etc) so maybe I thought it was relevant in the lead. I agree, it sounds weird now and have reworded it to just "Gorky would later mention them in his memoirs.". Note that I don't have subject expertise and was just addressing a cleanup tag saying to expand the lead; please feel free to edit if there's anything factually wrong etc. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 17:54, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

India

Hi spotted the India wiki page was updated by you few days back, it's appearing for a rogue search result e.g Namak Haraam Country, could you check what edit did you do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.15.32.63 (talk) 18:34, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello. Interesting, the media too have just reported it. I highly doubt that it's our fault; it must be definitely something to do with Google's SEO. Anyway, I've raised this on the article talk here Talk:India#Typing_.27Namak_Haram_Country.27_in_google_gives_this_page in case anyone else is interested. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 19:20, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

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Rajdeep Sardesai 2

Are you denying the fact that Rajdeep Sardesai brawled in front of Madison Sq gardens and was byatch slapped? OK Maybe all the references were filled in, you know I had to wash my hair. So let me make that neutral, add reference and restore the controversies Unless you have some agenda and do not wish to see that section there. Sardesai has also quoted in the Hindusthan Times a reputed source that any enteries on his Wiki page he will have his secretary change it Thank you2602:30A:C7D7:E590:69BD:DF54:3F81:FC3A (talk) 23:10, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Please see WP:BLP particularly WP:BLPSTYLE and WP:BLPGOSSIP. The incident is not relevant enough for his biography as discussed on Talk:Rajdeep_Sardesai#Madison_Square_Garden_Incident. Giving so much coverage to it would be WP:UNDUE weight, the onus on the content relevance lies on you, not me. If you want, start a new talk page discussion on the article talk page to get consensus for your proposed changes. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 03:11, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

PS: I've started Talk:Rajdeep_Sardesai#New_York_incident. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 07:40, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

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Maharashtra Images

Hello Ugog Nizdast, I checked Infoboxes for other states and countries and all of them just had the map and the flag of the respective place as images. Perhaps, we can place the images that we selected in other sections of the article. I certainly do not want to lose them but at the same it seems there is a consensus on not having pictures in that section. ThanksJonathansammy (talk) 17:17, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Hey. That's a good idea and that was my future plan once Maharashtra was fleshed out and developed, hadn't this user not start doing this. To clarify, I personally refrain from such wars involving infoboxes and cosmetic changes, the main text and images arranged carefully throughout it is more important. However, the old talk where we agreed is being disregarded by that user. If you take a look at that disputing user's talk, we've demanded a link for any MOS stating so. Even the infobox settlement says this applies to everything except countries. There's nothing so far found stating it shouldn't. This user has been likely doing this to other state articles as well, did you check the recent history? it's just not right that someone can just edit war their way across multiple articles without even giving a decent explanation besides WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 19:29, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

User:Hydloc009

Hello. I noticed that you placed a 3RR warning on Hydloc009"s page here. I have the same issue with him. The reason I am dropping you a message is that I suspect that is he is the blocked user Kkm010. I checked their interaction and it has striking similarities and edit pattern (although no direct connection I must confess). I am tempted to initiate a SPI for this user. What do you say? Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 19:36, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Hey there. Interesting. I'll take some time seeing your links and let you know what I think soon. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 19:39, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

• Reported him to AIV here. FYI only. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 19:56, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

AIV won't be likely accepted because this isn't vandalism. Regarding the SPI, go ahead and file one. Sadly, I can't find any conclusive evidence but definitely this user has edited before registering, judging by their starting edits that show prior experience. One single thing is, this new user has also made an edit in Bengali pedia with the edit summary in Bengali--kkm used to work there as well but don't if this is enough. The lengthy SPI history shows many admins who are good at spotting Kkm and they'll know what to do. Sorry but I can only help tomorrow as it's night time now and am winding up for today. Until next time, Ugog Nizdast (talk) 20:07, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

• Ugog Nizdast, I already filed a SPI for this guy under Kkm010. Did you check his contribution log and his first edit? If indeed he is a new user, he is the only and the first user I know of who started editing with a Template..!!!??— Preceding unsigned comment added by AKS.9955 (talk • contribs) 20:14:31, 2016-11-28 (UTC)

AKS.9955, be patient. I see that you've requested checkuser, undo that. Checkuser is only when there's ample evidence and it's best to leave that to the patrolling admin to ask for it on your behalf. We do have less evidence, only thing I'm certain is that user is too experienced for a new editor. I'll post there soon enough. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 22:12, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

@AKS.9955: Another thing: See WP:NOTVAND, vandalism isn't disruptive editing or any other forms of it. Thus, using WP:ROLLBACK on such edits is wrong. Also see WP:ATWV. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 22:59, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

• Ugog Nizdast, yeah, he got blocked indefinitely for SPI. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 21:06, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Yea, finally, peace at last. Though, the case is not what we expected. Back to work. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 12:49, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

• Yup. He wasted my entire day yesterday. I wanted to complete the article, but could not. I am travelling from tomorrow morning and all thanks to him, the article will be in a messed up state for weeks (till I come back). Thanks for your understanding. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 12:56, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

When I get time, I'll go through his contribs and see if anything's left worthwhile to revert.

I'm sorry about your work. I know how it feels like spending time on an article and someone just comes can hijacks it. Then we end up spending more time tackling them and creating reports on them rather than editing--a waste of time. Maybe in this case, you could have (on suspecting that he was definitely someone's sock or borderline disruptive) relaxed combating him via edit-warring/warning and just reported him once where relevant. This would minimise your time wasted. Then get back to work, either by moving that article to your userspace or working somewhere else. Editors like this (in my limited experience) often end up getting blocked themselves if they continue; those who spend time tackling such people will come. After all, how long will the main article remain like that? at most temporary and even if it stays for long, it's not the end of the world. This was just unsolicited advice for you. :) Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:20, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

• Ugog Nizdast, good point and I will keep that in mind. In anycase, I am photographing my notes & coin collection and uploading] them on Wikipedia. This itself is going to take months. You have a good evening. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 13:26, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Really don't waste time in bickering with him anymore on his talk. He's blocked indefinitely and is trying to reach out to anyone who would listen--I doubt anyone will. I've just unwatched his page. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 22:13, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas 2016

Merry Cristmas everybody!!!

"And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold,

I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord."

Luke 2:10-11 (King James Version)

Tito Dutta (talk) is wishing you a Merry Christmas.

This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove.

Spread the cheer by adding {{Subst:Xmas4}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

--Tito Dutta (talk) 06:13, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

@Titodutta: wish you the same. As always, have a nice day. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 07:37, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

Yo Ho Ho

Doug Weller talk is wishing you Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:WereSpielChequers/Dec16a}} to your friends' talk pages.

I'm also going to be cruel and suggest that you seriously think about putting yourself in harm's way. It's a dirty job but... Doug Weller talk 15:12, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

Oh hum..not you too. Yes but I'm still in the midst of considering it... Ugog Nizdast (talk) 19:30, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

And happy holidays, Ugog Nizdast (talk) 19:35, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

If "harm's way" means what I think it means, I've been meaning to suggest that, too...Oh, and happy holidays! Cheers, Vanamonde (talk) 18:25, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Yes, this is what you admins do right? once you become one, conspire with your admin friends to pull an unsuspecting colleague into the mess as well. :(

Same to you and here's to another year! Ugog Nizdast (talk) 12:59, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Languages with Official Status in India

Hey; I was notified you reverted my minor edit on "Languages with Official Status in India." You said, "Singular is correct," which is true, and yet you undid my edit, which changed the plural verb "range" to the singular verb "ranges." The subject of the sentence is "the number," and the verb which agrees with this singular noun is the singular verb "ranges": "the number ranges between..." is correct, not "the number range between..." Vezwyx (talk) 22:49, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

@Vezwyx: Thanks for pointing it out. I've restored it. I must have got confused because of the latter "native Hindi speakers" being plural. This question at english.stackexchange helped me. Good day. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 02:46, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

reping. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 02:47, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Mumbai native languages

Hi,

May i know why did u change the native laguage marathi to (marathi,gujrati, hindi). Do u have any source for this ? Native people are koli people , their language is marathi(kokani) http://nirc.nanzan-u.ac.jp/nfile/1064 this link clearly state that and this is well known research publication. PLEASE DO NOT EDIT PAGE RANDOMLY WITHOUT ANY SOURCE, REQUEST — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prshntsathe (talk • contribs) 22:50, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

@Prshntsathe: Posted at Talk:Mumbai#Native language. Please assume good faith, sign your posts, see WP:SHOUT and leave proper edit summaries (WP:EDITSUMMARY). Ugog Nizdast (talk) 00:10, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

where it is mentioned that Mr.Feroze Faredoon Jehangir was GHANDY at time of his Birth

Sir can you please do elaborate that where I.e. where in any Govt. Records was the family (lastname/surname) Name of Mr.Feroze Faredoon Jehangir ... As GHANDY... If your citing him from Birth point of view... I need Govt. Certificate as proof or rather Birth Certificate of Mr. FEROZE FAREDOON JEHANGIR... I say he adopted Last Name as Gandhi in his Conscience and in his Adulthood... So his Birth name is Absolutely only FEROZE FAREDOON JEHANGIR. Not just an Article of Mr. Ramchandra Guha.. Many of his writing's are been proved as bogus and his only views when cited in light of Documents and Facts... Manjeet Pandey1925 (talk) 12:04, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

@Manjeet Pandey1925: Over here, we go by Consensus and what reliable soruces say. We avoid edit warring and discuss on the talk page when in doubt.

Guha is a valid source, if you dispute it, it's up to you to provide reliable sources contradicting him and establish consensus on talk page, since per the link there, it's well-established in a prior discussion. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 12:14, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Updation of India's population in lead

Hello. I changed India's population from 1.2 billion to 1.3 billion in the lead while adding a source of Worldometers (also used as a source in lead of "good article" China) which showed real time population of India but you reverted me saying that relevance is more important than accuracy. I didn't get it. OK fine. Now, some other user did the same as I did earlier but without adding any source. This time, I added the official source from UNdata which places India's population at 1.326 billion (2016 UN projection). This is the source I am talking about.[8] When I first changed India's population from 1.2 billion to 1.3 billion in the lead but without a source, I got reverted and was told that I could do that while adding a reliable source. Can there be a more reliable source (other than official census) than UN projection ? UN projections are used even on article List of countries and dependencies by population for countries which do not have official population clocks. Now, I think there is absolutely no problem in keeping 1.3 billion figure in the lead. All country articles mention most recent population in their lead as per estimates. Besides, India's population has exceeded 1.2 billion in 2010 and crossed 1.3 billion in 2015. We can't wait for 2021 census of India which will place India's population somewhere near 1.4 billion and then we will update the population figures in lead. These figures have to be changed from time to time. India's population is likely to increase by 170-200 million between 2011 and 2021. That's a huge difference. No doubt, I will start a discussion on this topic on talk page of India. Vibhss (talk) 20:40, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

@Vibhss: Yes, please go ahead and start a discussion there. That article, being an FA, has its changes (even seeming minor ones) done mostly via discussion where it's scrutinised and reworked. Sourcing is usually never the problem, relevance is. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 07:25, 22 February 2017 (UTC)