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Kochi images

Sure. I'll certainly look into it. I'm still in the process of editing. The second half of the page has been plain and unappealing with just texts & no images. So I've been trying to improve it.Gantlet (talk) 19:06, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

@Gantlet:Okay thanks. The problem with pages like Kochi is they tend to collect a lot of images and get cluttered. Do sort the relevant and good quality ones. Good day, Ugog Nizdast (talk) 19:09, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Orange High School, Orange, CA

I made a simple change to the Principal field and included a link to the High School page. Would that be sufficient as far as a reliable source? Didn't mean to harm the process at all, my apologies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjacoby1973 (talk • contribs) 21:17, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

@Mjacoby1973: Odd. The school website here still mentions it Ernest Gonzalez. Am I missing something? -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 21:21, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

@Ugog Nizdast: Same page, upper right-hand corner is the current principal. The District controls the header. The body of the page is done by the front office, which is lagging. I've got a call into them already, my apologies.

@Mjacoby1973: Oh right. It's no big deal actually. I just thought it might have been a case of vandalism where someone mischievously adds some random name to the principal field of their school. No worries. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 21:30, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

@Ugog Nizdast: Understandable. I will be sure to wait for the remaining edits to take place before I update Wikipedia so that the references will match. Thanks so much, have a great day!!

Atention

Hi, user named Exciting2015 has copied your user page long time ago including your barnstarts etc. Do you have any objection? Is it allowed? He has merely done 10-20 edits but claims that he is a 'veteran' editor. --Human3015^{Send WikiLove}  20:33, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Odd. AFAIK there's nothing wrong with that and I don't think that should be a problem. Though this is the first time I'm coming across such a case. Account seems inactive now and edits don't seem to show any obvious suspicious activity or socking etc. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 05:03, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

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Adminship

Have you thought about an RFA? As an experienced, cluefull and calm editor I believe you could be even more productive with the tools. Abecedare (talk) 15:37, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm honoured but you might have seen that I'm more of a WikiHobbit, preferring quiet places rather than being in the frontline of the battle. I'll definitely think of what you said later, when I get more "battle-scars" and experience in dealing with the unpleasant areas of the 'pedia. Thanks. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 16:14, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Given your experience with GA reviews and substantial contributions to several articles, I don't think there is any doubt that you understand wikipedia's content policies (that is also my observation from your participation at WT:INB and other places) and I don't believe that will be a concern for most RFA participants. So anytime you wish to led to the slaughter, I'd be happy to nom/co-nom. In the meantime, I hope you continue enjoying your editing here. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 16:31, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Will do. *Someday*. Best wishes, Joel (Ugog Nizdast (talk)) 16:40, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Lilavati's Daughters

Here you go. —SpacemanSpiff 20:21, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

That's one down, around forty more to go? We'll post which all are done/checked for sources on the Noticeboard so that we all know where to put our efforts in from the list. Good job, I wont be free till the weekend. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 09:53, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Editor Barnstar

I thank you for the barnstar you have given to me. This is a delight for me. --Csisc (talk) 09:12, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Supplication of Abu Hamzah al-Thumali

Hello, Ugog Nizdast - I've been trying to help a non-native speaker of English improve an article s/he has written. I made a few copy-edits, then explained more than once what needed to be clarified. I think I've done all I can. The article is better than it was when I started copy-editing it a few days ago, but it still needs a little work. I wonder if you can help the editor. It's at User talk:Saff V.#Supplication of Abu Hamzah al-Thumali. Corinne (talk) 23:26, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Hello again. I'll see what I can do. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 05:22, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

@Corinne: The reason I didn't this ping was because you need to attach your signature at the end of it. See Template:Ping; adding names after you've signed won't work. Looking at the situation still, I think I may end up giving Joshua Jonathan's reply, but I'll do my best. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 12:34, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Parrot

You must have a problem with understanding vandalism. 66.61.83.123 (talk) 20:04, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Sorry about that. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 06:53, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

editing of demography of kerala.

Why my edit on demography of kerala was reverted. The fact was true ,also a hyperlink was supplied for checking its genuine nature, also all print and television media have reported the BJP kozhikode resolution on population of Hindu plummeted to 48%. Even the 'THE HINDU' newspaper ,which is considered to be one of the faithful print media reported the matter and reached a conclusion of the finding to be true.

The census report was of 2011, which means census taken around a period of 2009,2010,2011 time, Now it is 2015. Muslim community growth percentage is 24.5%. so by rough calculation itself it can be concluded that it have a reduction in the Hindu pop. Also taking into account the migrant workers of Bangladesh & West Bengal who are getting enrolled into the voters list the 48% may dip even further.

I will be making a page of my own and broadcast to the world what the BJP Kerala Kozhikode 21st July resolution was. No can revert THAT ! No one can revert the TRUTH. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tonisanthosh (talk • contribs) 18:04, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

@Tonisanthosh: As long as you use reliable sources, I'm not going to revert you. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 19:24, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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		For all the tireless work you have been doing to improve the India related articles, I award you this. You are doing great and your efforts are greatly appreciated :) Yash! 10:49, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

@Yash!: Thanks a lot, very much appreciated, that too the national merit one. Have a nice day.

PS: maybe we could work together on Kerala, if there's anything upkeep work to be done. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 14:12, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Yes, there is a lot to be done yet. I nominated it for GA and due to some unfortunate reasons, I became inactive. It failed the GAR and the main issues were related to prose and references. I have tried and fixed all the issues raised related to the prose except for the "Culture" section which remains a mess. I will be done with that in the next couple of days. However, the bigger problem has always been with the referencing. Since the day I started editing the page, I might have added over 150 references and yet the work isn't completed. There are few dead links and many references lack parameters such as accessdate, page number, first name or work or so. Also, many information is improperly added. Such as work is used in place of publisher and vice versa. Considering that there are over 400 references, I could really use some help there. Best, Yash! 17:16, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

@Yash!: I'll be glad to help in whatever way I can, I'll be delighted if you could take it through GA. For an article such as this, it won't be easy but it will be worth it. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 17:20, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Andhra Pradesh

Wiki project AP you placed a tag as inactive, I didn't get that. Could you explain me how to make it active.--Vin09 (talk) 14:03, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Oh so there is some activity after all. This is part of this proposal (should have linked that first). Why don't we take the discussion there? I'll revert and we can see how to improve your project there. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 15:06, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

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Recent edits to Mo'Nique

Hello

I did leave a reference to her show at the montreal just for laugh festival. I believe that qualifies as a reliable source. What is your objection, exactly?

br C.

Hello. I noticed that you made an edit to a biography of a living person (Mo'Nique), but that you didn't support your changes with a citation to a reliable source. Wikipedia has a strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you! ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 15:36, 31 October 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carl.coppens (talk • contribs)

@Carl.coppens: Hey. Your edit constitutes original research by making a personal analysis of someone's quote. Further see our WP:BLP policy. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 15:50, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

hello. thanks for the clarification. I removed any "original research" from the edit. It's not purely a reference to her stand up routine, without analysis. br. C. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carl.coppens (talk • contribs) 16:00, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Agent of Barkha Dutt

I have watched the history of this article and for sure SpacemanSpiff and You are agent of Barkha Dutt. As you keep undoing changes related to her marriage!!! Not everything posted on NDTV (where she works) can be taken the "only" reference about her!!! Got it? I'm challenging your deletion regarding this!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amitverma (talk • contribs) 13:48, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Happy Diwali

Hi Ugog Nizdast. It was great to hear from you today. Happy Diwali to you, too! Best, Simon. --Stfg (talk) 21:01, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Ditto...hope all is well for you. Glad you remembered me! Best wishes Ugog!MONGO 01:00, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Mention of Entekrishi.com in Kerala page in the agriculture section

I removed the mention of this website because I thought it looked like an advertisement. My change was reverted.

The statement is not appropriate to the article. For starters, it flows on in the same paragraph which was started as a mention of the ill-effects of pesticides. Secondly, it is a mention of some website which is a tool for consumers and farmers. There are websites, tools and businesses for many things. I can't see how this is relevant in a high-level discussion about the agriculture of Kerala.

The argument that there it has a "source" — that is, it got mentioned in some tabloid at some point — doesn't make it appropriate for the page. Besides, the citation as it stands doesn't even cite the page in the newspaper in which it is mentioned.

If you insist that the mention of this website must have a place in this article, then it should be justified by having a significant, ideally measurable, impact on agriculture in Kerala.

Regarding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Revert_only_when_necessary: It would be good if rather than reverting the edit wholesale, you made some attempt to situate the mention of this website better in the agriculture section so that the Kerala article reads better.

Alphomega~enwiki (talk) 03:50, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

@Alphomega~enwik: Advertisement would mean blatantly promotional content "it's the best in the world etc", flowery language etc. I only weakly support its inclusion because of it being barely factual and sourced. Now Entekrishi.com, reads like an advert to some extent but seems to have some notability.. That's the reason and reverted; when in doubt, revert to the STATUSQUO version.

If you see an obvious reason why it shouldn't be there, then feel free to remove it again stating why. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 12:49, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Denonym of people of Bangladesh

I started a discussion to have a debate on Demonym of the people of Bangladesh in Bangladesh page. Please feel free to join the discussion before making any change to the demonym. Thanks. Shoshanko (talk) 10:56, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

I do agree that the constitutional Nationality claim needs to be backed by scholarly references. I have cited two references in Bangladesh page for you to have a look. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shoshanko (talk • contribs) 07:26, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

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I would like to add my new party name OUR INDIAN PARTY

Hello Sir.,

I would like to add my new party name OUR INDIAN PARTY

Kindly reply what need to do exactly.

We are starting this party @ last 25th Nov 2015

Let me know your reply ASAP.

Rajamanoharan.oip (talk) 13:27, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

@Rajamanoharan.oip: If your party passes our notability criteria, only then can it have an article here. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:29, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

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Vin09 (talk) 12:46, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you.

Thanks for your WP:3 re: Max Havoc: Curse of the Dragon. I appreciate you taking the time to do that. I will keep you posted on the outcome of the particulars. Thank you again. Sprinkler21 (talk) 04:49, 11 December 2015 (UTC)Sprinkler21

Sydlucky26 (talk) 14:03, 13 December 2015 (UTC)Would like to discuss about Asaram Bapu Page

You were lopsided in undoing the edit to Asaram Bapu Page You need to post neutrally dude. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sydlucky26 (talk • contribs) 14:03, 13 December 2015‎

@Sydlucky26: Hello. Concerning your edit: Most of your sources used were not reliable and the language flowery (for instance, "During this time the first seed of spiritualism was sown in him.", "No one could stop the fire of renunciation that was enveloping him completely." etc). Ugog Nizdast (talk) 15:30, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Kerala

Heyo Ugog Nizdast, how are you? The article is up for reviewing and I hope that it passes this time. I tried to address all the issues from the previous GARs and I hope that I have done okay. There might still be some faults in the referencing but nothing major I hope. However, one issue still presists. File:India Kerala locator map.svg does not have the boundaries for Telangana and I am not good with editing images. I was wondering if you could fix that issue. Best, Yash! 09:22, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Hello. Thanks for notifying me, I completely forgot about it. Regarding the file, I've had limited experience with images but I'll see what I can do. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:32, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

It turns out that most of our state articles have that problem. If it has to be done, it must be on a national scale. What can we do? Do you know of anyone who does map editing? Ugog Nizdast (talk) 14:32, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

No, not really. I had asked few others but didn't get a positive response. There is a French editor who updated the map used in India. I had asked him on the French Wikipedia but didn't receive a response. If you know someone who's good at it, please do let me know. If nothing works, I shall give it a try. Regards, Yash! 14:42, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Visakhapatnam

Could you have your point at Talk:Visakhapatnam#Discussion_based_on_area_and_population.--Vin09 (talk) 15:02, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Will have a look at it. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 16:11, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

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Greetings

Hello Ugog Nizdast: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Tito Dutta (talk) 18:22, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message

As always, wish you the same Titodutta. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:17, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for helping out at peer review!

		The Peer Review Barnstar
		Thanks for your help at Wikipedia peer review this year! --Tom (LT) (talk) 07:55, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Tom (LT), didn't know there was a customised Barnstar for this. I got a little burnt out doing that backlog thing and wonder if it could be automated; it's just too tedious. Besides this I've got a couple a questions too. Shall we continue at Talk:Peer review? Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:16, 27 December 2015 (UTC) forgot to ping LT910001. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:18, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Agree. Your efforts are best spent elsewhere rather than the tedious backlog list :). Let's continue on the talk page. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:23, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Bangladesh

Hi. I understand my first change to the lead was perhaps too long. But it's high time the lead gets an improvement. If you look at the previous version, you'll see very poor references to ancient history. It also seemed disorganized. I don't think I've written anything controversial in the new version?--Akbar the Great (talk) 20:15, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello. I'll join your discussion there at Talk:Bangladesh#Lead if possible. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 04:52, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

I replied to your message at Bangladesh page about a month ago. When you are free please join our discussion there. Thanks a lot. Shoshanko (talk) 02:20, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi again please respond to discussion in Bangladesh page. I appreciate your cooperation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shoshanko (talk • contribs) 10:27, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Mervat Amin

Hello, Ugog Nizdast -- I was just reading the article on the Circassians, and out of curiosity I looked at the article on Mervat Amin. I was puzzled by what I saw in the list at Mervat Amin#Filmography. Can you take a look? Thanks. Corinne (talk) 20:21, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

@Corinne: Hello again. I'm afraid I'm a little tied up. But what needs to be done? I've briefly looked at it and didn't notice anything striking. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 11:04, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

The titles are in regular font but the letters are interspersed with numbers. Corinne (talk) 14:04, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

@Corinne: Oh yes, I thought that was some translation problem and ignored it. I reported on the article talk, discuss further if needed. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 14:35, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Talk: India

The editors said the previous revision was fine earlier, maybe not everyone agrees. Anyway the citations don't make any sense, because it cites the government acts which say "Hindi in the Devanagari script is the official language of the Union", which indicates that obviously Hindi is the official language. I know that of course that there are other officially recognized languages, but that is a defintive statement. The other languages are also listed in the infobox and I kept that English is a language used in administration, I don't understand all the fuss. it simply states what the government says. Also about Hindi being the national language, the infobox doesn't say national language, it says "official language".-Akhila3151996 (talk) 21:55, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

The Original discussion seems to conclude with no consensus while the newer one (preferably continue here) opposes it. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 05:54, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Edits for Akhilesh Yadav

Hi,

I just noticed you rolled back all my hard work I did yesterday for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhilesh_Yadav. Can you cite the reasons for this. I had done tonnes of research on this. Thanks Chints247 (talk) 06:52, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi. @Chints247: Sorry to hear that but one thing to remember here is that you're edits are going to be mercilessly edited. In fact, this has happened to me when I started off here. If you're worried about things like this happening, WP:CAUTIOUS while making big changes and seek consensus. The old version (which I reverted to) of the article is has been longstanding for years, and you need to seek consensus for making such major changes.

Reasons? I don't understand, I did give it in my edit summary citing guidelines too.

Anyway, I've looked at your edit again and we'll need to work on a lot of things on the talk page before you can proceed, if you're willing. Let's continue there: Talk:Akhilesh_Yadav#Early_life_details_and_Career_timeline_format. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 12:07, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	Hi5 Ugog Nizdast, Kerala just became a GA! It wouldn't have been possible if it wasn't for you maintaining, building and improving the content. Thank you for the edits :) Yash! 05:38, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Nicely done! That's a big article, quite a significant achievement. Vanamonde93 (talk) 06:48, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

GA? Now isn't that nice. Don't deserve this though, just did the watchlisting part mainly; it goes more to you than me. Tell you what I'll sort of "earn this" by going through it once again. And nice to see you Vanamonde93. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:54, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Subhas Chandra Bose

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Subhas_Chandra_Bose&oldid=700585745 People in India rever Subhash ji as a Hero. Please correct the red citation errors.

Cite error: Invalid

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mamta Jagdish Dhody (talk • contribs) 12:34, 19 January 2016 (UTC) 

Hmm, good catch. I've just checked and that has been there for quite some time now. It might be difficult to do that but I'll try. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 12:45, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

@Mamta Jagdish Dhody: See Talk:Subhas_Chandra_Bose#References.2C_citations_and_quotations. Thanks to your attention, we've almost got it done. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 12:55, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

References

Talk:Michael_Page_(fighter)

Hi. I understand why you closed the third opinion, but as I am unable to get any reply from the other party I am not sure of how to apporach this then. I have been unable to find any way to resolve a dispute unless there is a discussion first. What step should I then take? Morohbj (talk) 13:40, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

One way is to keep notifying the editor and refrain from reverting lest you get caught up in a 3RR rule violation. Be patient wait for a response. If all else fails, administrative action would be required, either at the WP:ANI or WP:ANEW depending on the situation. WP:DISCFAIL is an excellent essay elaborating on what to do in such situations. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 15:36, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

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Nethack replayability

Hi,

Could you please explain me WHY you simply removed my contribution?

Good faith? I really wonder what faith has to do with it! Items identification is a feature of Nethack which is a major contribution to the replayability of a game I play regularly since ~25 years now. I'm a hardcore player, I played countless video games in my entire life. Many were bad, many were good, some were very good, but Nethack still remains by far the best one in my mind. There are many reasons for this, but its replayability is undoubtly the main one.

Unsourced? Again, I wonder what you mean here... can you explain me why you need a source for such a remark? The game feature is itself a source for that remark, that's the point. I'm not a bigot, and as a long time experienced programmer myself, I definitely don't edit things blindly, be it in my code or on Wikipedia. In short: I think before talking, and this remark is not something I just put in my mind recently. It's the result of many years of gaming experience. I don't pretend to write a book on the subject, but it's a well though point of mine. I would be very surprised if the Nethack community would not largely agree with that assertion.

In the end, I wonder what is Nethack to you? Could you develop? I'm open to discussion because I cannot so easily accept such simple erasure of this remark. It's not simply a personal opinion. I guess people deserve to know why this feature is great (BTW, it's a feature which I very rarely seen in the countless games I played since 1980).

I'm very angry about it for now. Please, do me a favor: develop. Thanks.

Radamanthe (talk) 04:16, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi @Radamanthe: This edit, as stated in my edit summary, I removed it mainly because it was unsourced. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 06:39, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

(sigh) Please read me, if you don't understand my english, then ask me, it's not my native language so I can admit not being understood sometimes. As I said, simple observations don't need sources. Play the game one time... play the game a second time... play the game a third time... and so on... then you'll see that the same item description is different each time, hence: replayability. Here's your source: the game itself! What do you want? Refering to the game in its own page? Let's be serious.

"Sourcing", to me, is refering to other documents that verify an assertion. What I edited on the Nethack page is a simple observation from experiencing this game for ~25 years.

Again: develop. I won't be satisfied by what you've just said 2 times already: unsourced. You said it in the comments when you removed my contribution. Then I come here and ask you to develop, and you answer me the exact same thing. Is this a joke? This does not make any sense for something that you can observe in the game itself! No need for a reference.Radamanthe (talk) 09:57, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

@Radamanthe: I'm not following some parts of what you're saying but sourcing the game itself and your experience with it is original research. Tell you what, I've been watching the article for some time now and tried to improve it. It's very important classic but unfortunately sourcing it is very hard. Why don't you try to improve it using reliable sources as shown here WP:VG/RS and the guideline WP:VG/GL if you got the time. There's a custom search engine there which you could try too. I can help you with it. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 11:05, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

So this is what the spirit of Wikipedia became? I won't lose my time contributing to this anymore. I'm not an epistemologist, you see.

I may considerer myself as some kind of video game scientist, but since I cannot refer to my portfolio (as it would be considered "promoting" myself)... well. I'm off.

From the beginning, I never considered Wikipedia as an encyclopedia (strictly speaking). One should do its minimal researches to make sure what one reads is a fact or not.

Maybe it's fine for Wikipedia authorities, maybe you want it to become a completely reliable source of information without people thinking about what they read, fine. To me, credibility is not just about stating it in the rules, certainly not for such a relatively young entity.

Good luck Wikipedia to find contributors in masses now. Luckily, internet is not only about Wikipedia! Radamanthe (talk) 18:32, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Nazeer Ahmed (space scientist)

Hi

Thanks for the review of the page "Nazeer Ahmed (space scientist)"!

We have noticed that it has some broken links and Patents mentioned are not linked. Dr. Nazeer Ahmed has been informed about this. He is getting it fixed to comply with the WP:GNG.

I request you to withdraw the "Nomination for Deletion" you have made.

Thanks once again! Ahkhan01 (talk) 19:55, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry I'm not convinced that it passes GNG until references are provided, so we better wait and see the outcome of AFD. You can voice your opinion there at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nazeer Ahmed (space scientist). Ugog Nizdast (talk) 20:02, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

forgot to ping Ahkhan01 -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 20:03, 5 March 2016 (UTC)