UlfRSamuelsson

May 2024

Hi UlfRSamuelsson! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia—it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Thank you. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 03:06, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

I made two changes to the page for the Second Battle of Fallujah. Only the second (a single sentence) was a minor edit.

Yet you deleted both.

The first, which definitely changes the meaning of the article, was not marked minor edit.

It included

• a source that shows that the whole chapter on using White Phosphorous as a weapon is hogwash
• the name of the applicable treaty
• a quote of the applicable treaty which again shows that the whole chapter is hogwash.

By removing the first change, complaining of ”minor edit”, is vandalizing.

The second change was made, marked minor edit, and I apologize for that.

So right now, the wiki page is in error and needs correcting.

Please revert the change of the first addition, or even better, remove the whole chapter since it promotes propaganda, typically by Muslim terrorists, UlfRSamuelsson (talk) 04:08, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

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Happy editing! Selfstudier (talk) 12:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

If you ignore the above instruction but continue to complain about the Israel-Palestine articles not written in the way you see fit, I will report you to administrators which may result in a topic ban. Please only file proper edit request politely. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk · contri.) 13:42, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

As far as I see it, I am pointing out a factual error. There is no ruling by the ICJ.

This is supported by the link to the order which says:

"84.The Court reaffirms that the decision given in the present proceedings in no way prejudges the question of the jurisdiction of the Court to deal with the merits of the case or any questions relating to the admissibility of the Application or to the merits themselves. It leaves unaffected the right of the Governments of the Republic of South Africa and the State of Israel to submit arguments in respect of those questions."

It is written in a way that it suggests that the court has decided it is genocide.

What specifically do you object to? UlfRSamuelsson (talk) 13:49, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

This is the instruction.

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I provided the requested change in an informal way, as there is no need for a template according to the instruction in your link.

Then I provided some sources for the change.

Are you objecting to the first line where I say that this part is seriously misrepresenting the ICJ statement?

If Yes, are there more things? UlfRSamuelsson (talk) 14:42, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

The absence of an edit template is the least concern. You are requesting for a massive shift of tone of the article which would require a more formal discussion and you would be barred from participating due to your non-extended confirmed status. You are not the first one arguing about the legalese of the ICJ statement on Wikipedia, and certainly not the last one trying to raise such concern on Wikipedia. If you want to discuss about it with the aim of changing the article, you may consider obtaining the extended confirmed privilege first, by making constructive edits on non-Israel-Palestine articles. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk · contri.) 15:12, 11 July 2024 (UTC)