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Bahman Tavoosi

Hello, I don't understand why the page of Bahman Tavoosi is kept getting deleted, previously someone else created the page and it was deleted, again I have created the page and once again it is deleted. Hopefully, you understand how much time anyone has to spend to write a page, we are all busy and trying to help each other, kindly read the comments before you decide to delete the hard work. Thank you! Inception 111 (talk) 19:38, 14 September 2020 (UTC)inception 111

@Inception 111: The article was deleted because Tavoosi was not clearly notable, which is necessary for an article to be kept on Wikipedia. The deletion was the result of this discussion, and there has been a previous discussion about it as well. I'm sorry you feel your work was wasted, but perhaps you can use the experience you gained to work on existing articles or more clearly notable topics. Best, Vanamonde (Talk) 20:09, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Vanamonde93 for your explanation, however, I have provided links and sources indicating the artist as a notable person ( his film was on few festivals around the world and clearly you can see it from the links that provided on his page. The artist had also numerous interviews with the different press which again were included. These sources are not from the artist but by other sources (festivals, press, interviews). How else a person become notable?! Please check these links, don't know who is deciding to delete the page without reading all the notes and comments that I have provided in the last couple of months. Hopefully, Wikipedia will consider the number of hard work editors do their page trying to create databse for the all the artist and et out there in the world. Thanks. Inception 111 (talk) 22:11, 14 September 2020 (UTC)inception 111

@Inception 111: You don't need to persuade me; you needed to persuade the people who participated in the deletion discussion, because the consensus formed there is what led to the page being deleted. Please also note that the default standard for notability is WP:GNG; the arguments you make may suggest notability, but they certainly do not automatically make a person notable. Vanamonde (Talk) 22:42, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your prompt reply, I have already checked the Wikipedia notablity link, as per WikiPedia ""Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material. The book-length history of IBM by Robert Sobel is plainly non-trivial coverage of IBM. Martin Walker's statement, in a newspaper article about Bill Clinton,[1] that "In high school, he was part of a jazz band called Three Blind Mice" is plainly a trivial mention of that band. "Reliable" means that sources need editorial integrity to allow verifiable evaluation of notability, per the reliable source guideline. Sources may encompass published works in all forms and media, and in any language. Availability of secondary sources covering the subject is a good test for notability. "Sources"[2] should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability. There is no fixed number of sources required since sources vary in quality and depth of coverage, but multiple sources are generally expected.[3] Sources do not have to be available online or written in English. Multiple publications from the same author or organization are usually regarded as a single source for the purposes of establishing notability."

Facts:

1- There are over hundreds of coverage on media for the artist 2_ There are links on all different kinds of media and newspapers

I wonder if anyone read my original comments before they decide to delete the page Inception 111 (talk) 23:40, 14 September 2020 (UTC)inception 111

Consensus in that discussion was clear, and I am not going to reverse the closure. If you would like to dispute the closure, you need to go to WP:DRV, but I would recommend against it; your energy is better spent elsewhere. Vanamonde (Talk) 00:38, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

The page for the artist Bahman Tavoosi is deleted yet again, It's so frustrating after a couple of months of editing and creating the link, Wikipedia just decided to delete the page. I wonder if anyone is reading the comments and check the article before they decided to trash many hours that I spent on this page. Please reverse the deleted page and check all the previous notes. Thank you!!!Inception 111 (talk) 23:29, 21 September 2020 (UTC)inception 111

Please read my comments above. I will not be restoring the page. If you think I've made the wrong decision, you can take this to WP:DRV, but I strongly suggest you spend your time elsewhere. Vanamonde (Talk) 23:36, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Swaminarayan Sampraday

Hello,

I was suggested by a user to reach out to you to get some help on the Swaminarayan Sampradaya page. There is an image of Swaminarayan and paramhanso in the Early monasticism section. This image is already used in the article. It is on the cover of the BAPS vachnamrut below and is very visible which I stated in the talk page. If you read the talk page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Swaminarayan_Sampradaya#Image_Diversification there have been lengthy discussions but on one is addressing the use of the same picture twice. I tried to replace the picture with something more reasonable which is this image https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Swaminarayan_gadi.png that shows Swaminarayan, his paramhaṃsas and acharayas but I was personally attacked and giving talk page notices. Am I doing something wrong here? The talk page consensus is not appropriate going forward with certain users as per their editing histories it shows sect bias in almost all their edits. A user made up allegations of racism when instead it was found out that majority of the BAPS sources come from BAPS members and that point never got addressed. (Is that even allowed?) If you have the time, would you please take a look at this.Kevpopz (talk) 07:34, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

@Kevpopz: I took a quick look, and that talk page is a hopeless mess. I would suggest you ask for input at the conflict of interest noticeboard, because this requires an uninvolved editor to spend a while examining the sources and the images, and I simply do not have the time at the moment. Also, edit-warring is always a bad idea, but especially so when it's just over the duplication of an image; there are better things to spend your energy on. Sorry I can't be of more help. I see Joshua Jonathan was involved on that page for a while, but seems to have stepped away, which just goes to show it's a bit of a timesink...Vanamonde (Talk) 14:38, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

No, I'm still involved, but it's like wading through a pool with sticky glue. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 16:15, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Good to know. It doesn't look very tractable. Vanamonde (Talk) 16:23, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you @Vanamonde for your follow up. I made an edit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bochasanwasi_Akshar_Purushottam_Swaminarayan_Sanstha in the introduction with the following: BAPS followers do not follow the acharayas and temples of the original gadis, (Vadtal and Ahmedabad dioceses) but have created their own temples to reflect their interpretation of Swaminarayan vishishtadvaita. Is this appropriate? If I go to the talk page, there appears to be a consensus from certain users and it's obvious who is who. I don't want to come to you to validate the topic above or take a side. I want to know per Wikipedia policy, context and sourcing, is this an appropriate edit? Kevpopz (talk) 22:41, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

@Kevpopz: I can't really answer that without access to the source. Could you provide a quote? Vanamonde (Talk) 01:31, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

@Vanamonde Here is access to another source which has the same thing. This author uses same source that I used. To avoid any issues, I'll cite both and wait for your feedback Kevpopz (talk) 02:45, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

I'm somewhat uncertain about the reliability of encyclopedia.com, although the content seems to be supported there. The Jones source looks fine; I asked for a quote because you asked me to verify your edit, and I need a quote for that. Please note, though, that I can only confirm that the content in question meets WP:V. Deciding whether or not it belongs in the article is an editorial decision that you need to reach consensus on, and I also do not have the time to decide if it meets WP:DUE. Vanamonde (Talk) 04:16, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

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Discretionary sanctions

I'm aware that there are some sanctions on the article on People's Mujahedin of Iran. My question is that I proposed a change to the lead at Talk:People's_Mujahedin_of_Iran/Archive_32#Lead_is_too_long_2. It was opposed once. When I responded there was no additional response by anyone (the initial objector got banned from the article so they couldn't respond anyway) and eventually the discussion got archived due to inactivity. Would it be appropriate for me to WP:BOLDLY re-instate that change and wait to see if someone objects? VR _talk 23:47, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

@Vice regent: Have you previously made the change in the article itself? Vanamonde (Talk) 01:39, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I have and it was reverted after which I tried to discuss it. The discussion didn't continue, probably because shortly afterwards the only user to object was topic banned.VR _talk 14:38, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Modern Art Research Institute of Ukrainian Academy of Arts

Greetings. The listed result was to redirect it to...itself? It's pretty clear what the actual intent was, based on what little discussion was there, but I thought I'd drop a note rather than step on your toes by changing it myself. Thanks. --Finngall ^talk 14:46, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

@Finngall: A copy-paste fail, thanks for catching it. Should be fixed now. Vanamonde (Talk) 14:56, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

ANI closure

Thank you for your closure of Chris's IBAN, but do you just want to go ahead a close the entire discussion? Jerm (talk) 15:41, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

@Jerm: A moment...I was logging the restriction, and will close the main discussion now. Vanamonde (Talk) 15:46, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

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why did you delete my edit it was for when i get older and die so i have some memory

Ireallydontcareugh (talk) 14:15, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

@Ireallydontcareugh: Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia. If you read the message I left you here, you'll find an explanation as to why some of your edits were removed. You may also find this page useful if you don't want future contributions to be removed as well. Happy editing, Vanamonde (Talk) 15:22, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Amendment request: Civility in infobox discussions closed and archived

Amendment request: Civility in infobox discussions has been closed and archived. The archived amendment request can be viewed here.

For the Arbitration Committee, Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 15:40, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

• Vanamonde93, I note that the partial close guidance is now included. At this point, may we engage in a socially distant handshake and move forward in mutual regard, or do I still have work to do, in your view? It is important to me that I do not have unresolved issues with people I respect. Guy (help! - typo?) 19:48, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

  @JzG: It's important to me too, and the respect is mutual. I think I have the clarity I need, the participants to that conflict have received a salutary reminder that their conduct was sub-par, and the various discussions have been closed; so yes, I believe we can move on from here. Regards, Vanamonde (Talk) 20:35, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Otto Reich

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Saffron Terror

Undid your revision, the inputs from political parties are completely valid. How can you arbitrarily decide it is not? The statements made in the sources clearly show that this so called saffron Terror phenomenon is merely a political vendetta on the part of the lib-left. A.A Ghatge (talk) 16:54, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Please read WP:RS and WP:DUE. Vanamonde (Talk) 19:37, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

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Rajaji

Hello vanamonde93!... Why the wiki page for rajaji is deleted Whitefrans (talk) 13:24, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

@Whitefrans: Welcome to Wikipedia. You will have to be more specific; Rajaji has not been deleted, it is only a redirect to C. Rajagopalachari, so I don't think that's what you're referring to. Vanamonde (Talk) 14:24, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello vanamonde... Thanks for your kind reply.. Here there was a page in the name of rajaji(Tamil actor). You can google "rajaji tamil actor"for more info. This page was deleted last month and its mentioned the name vanamonde.Now its redirecting to c. Rajagopalachary. Can you please call me or share your number to discuss in detail.Thanks again for your reply. Whitefrans (talk) 16:53, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

@Whitefrans: Please do not post your phone number to Wikipedia, as it's not a good idea to publicize it. We typically have all the necessary discussion on talk pages; calling isn't necessary. Rajaji (actor) was deleted following this deletion discussion, where there was a clear consensus that he did not meet our general notability guideline or our supplementary guideline for actors. Please read those pages for further information. Best, Vanamonde (Talk) 17:07, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

@Vanamonde.. This page Rajaji(Actor) is avilable since from 2013 and also its metting your supplementary guideline for actors. He already completed 5 movies and still doing some movies. But what made you to delete this page. Even i can the pages for actor and actress who have done just one or couple of movies. Here am requesting you to restore the page. Thank you. Whitefrans (talk) 17:33, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

@Whitefrans: That's an argument you needed to make in the deletion discussion, not to me. I cannot unilaterally overturn the consensus reached in that discussion. If you think he is genuinely notable, I suggest you write a draft page with enough reliable sources to show that he meets our guidelines, and submit it through the articles for creation process. Vanamonde (Talk) 17:49, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Its not an argument... Doesn't make any sense when you feel its an arguments. If does not meet the guidelines then why the page has been created.All the reliable source what you expecting is alrdy there in Google search. Anyways i dont want to waste my time here.. Let me go with the process.But i request you not delete others pages without knowing anything about the person or page details. Whitefrans (talk) 18:03, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Whitefrans, there is absolutely no need for any editor to have any knowledge of the subject they are editing. The only knowledge required is the ability to read the sources, as every single thing in a Wikipedia article MUST be paraphrased from reliable sources. The owner of this talk page has considerably more experience on Wikipedia than you. Please take his advice. It's rock solid. 174.254.193.245 (talk) 18:12, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

I dont think you are doing a good job or deserve for Wikipedia. Whitefrans (talk) 18:28, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Letz end this discussion, where there is no point. Whitefrans (talk) 18:29, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

174.254.193.245, thank you. Whitefrans, you can think what you like about me, but please read the policies and guidelines I linked before editing further, as your disagreement here seems to be with Wikipedia's principles, and this will cause you difficulty in the future if you remain unfamiliar with them. Vanamonde (Talk) 21:16, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

I have read the policies and the deletion logs where few arguments whr happened. No matter just reading the policies and need to follow clearly for every entry in Wikipedia.After see the deletion logs i can clearly makeout just bcus of ego issues with other third party editors that entry has been removed. Just reading policies and principle is not a big thing, need to be loyal to the work. Whitefrans (talk) 10:11, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Starship Troopers

I see you undid my revision where I added a "by whom" template on the claim that some say the novel is dystopian. It seems to me that all the cited sources say that it is in fact utopian. I'm therefore taking the license to revert the article to my revision for now. LunaticLarry (talk) 07:27, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Please contributed to Talk:Starship Troopers#utopian, not dystopian.-- Toddy1 (talk) 12:02, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

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Coverage in "Political Positions" sections

I am currently working on the Erin O'Toole article (currently pushing for GA, planning to get it FA at some point after the next federal election) and would like to know how much coverage an article should give of a politician's positions. How much coverage should such a position get before being included? I would not be surprised if I overdid it, given that 50.7% of the word count of the article is in that section. Username⁶⁸⁹² _{(Peer Review)} 03:11, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

@Username6892: No hard-and-fast rule exists, but more than fifty percent is likely too much. If there is that much coverage of someone's political positions, a spinoff article may be justifiable; but a good method of trimming this section, at least for prominent politicians, is to rely on articlest that are profiles, rather than pieces on specific issues that include sound bytes from a number of politicians. Vanamonde (Talk) 18:20, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

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DYK for Otto Reich

On 5 November 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Otto Reich, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that as a lobbyist for Bacardi, Otto Reich, a former U.S. ambassador to Venezuela, played a role in passing legislation that stripped trademark protection from Havana Club rum? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Otto Reich. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Otto Reich), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Community sanctions alerts don't set the tag

Hi. I was trying to notify an editor under WP:GS/IRANPOL and happened to see an example of you leaving a prior notice: Here is your addition of the notice. Sadly, this notification doesn't set the tag 'discretionary sanctions alert'.

Compare this outcome to a successful notice to the same person under Arbcom (not Community) sanctions in the same history: Here. This means that some of the facilities we tend to rely on for the Arbcom sanctions don't quite work. For example, checking that the person was not notified of community sanctions within the past year. Couldn't this be an edit filter problem? No idea if you were the right person to tell about this, but I had to tell someone! Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 18:39, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

@EdJohnston: I hadn't noticed that; thanks for letting me know. To be quite honest, the technical aspects of logging and notification are still opaque to me; I use the templates often because they're necessary to both my admin work and content work...I cannot remember if this is the case, but it's possible a copy-paste error on my part led to the absence of the logging; it's also possible the template syntax itself is broken. If that were not enough, I believe someone has been trying to delete all the subject-specific clones of the ds-alert template as being unnecessary (again, I'm not familiar enough with the technicalities to get into it), including here; and if the generic template doesn't have this issue, it may already have been fixed for any future case, and past cases should be logged here.Zzuuzz may be able to help answer whether it's the template or the edit that was a problem, as they've worked on that filter before. Vanamonde (Talk) 18:52, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

The problem here is the text (or lack of it), in the template, right before the signature - basically the "-- derived from template:ds/alert". To be honest, my edit to the filter was a blind technical tweak, and though I'm good with filters, the subject area (in many ways) is not one of my strong suits. We could ping AGK, who has worked on the filter extensively and is surely a subject specialist. Alternatively I could keep digging. I suppose it would help to know what template you were using... -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 19:05, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

For the record, see this on my talk: User_talk:ProcrastinatingReader#Notifications_of_community_sanctions_don't_quite_work. This is pretty much why I've been trying to get the old templates deleted. They don't work properly (and haven't before I touched them, either) and I don't really feel like it's worth maintaining/fixing a dozen separate templates verses just sending them for deletion. Not having them exist at all, forcing usage of the standardised ones, eliminates the confusion, removes the maintenance barrier, and prevents text constantly going out of sync in my eyes. As it relates to this question, just using {{Gs/alert}} should work (no changes are required to the filter for this). ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 19:20, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment. Deleting the old templates does sound like the correct move. I haven't checked out the 'wrapper' question mentioned in your TfD, though. Hopefully you will get some participation in the TfD. EdJohnston (talk) 19:28, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, ProcrastinatingReader; that does make sense to me (and thanks to you, too, Zzuuzz, for checking). Unless I'm mistaken, this problem only arose because we switched from logged notifications to an edit-filter, but that's a cleaner system anyhow, so I've no problem with that. It may be necessary, once the templates have all been deleted, to update the documentation (including at the parent template page, so no one makes more clones of it). Vanamonde (Talk) 20:17, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Narender Modi

Hello, I recently updated Modi wiki page by removing controversial and wrong statement of Alleged Participation in Gujarat riots he has got clean chit a long way back, still its is written Alleged ??? Anyway its clear wiki has a habit of Hinduphobia, also reaching Consensus on Talk pages in nearly impossible Since U will never change the section which doesnt suit your narrative or Agenda as i see articles of Delhi riots or Historical Figures and many other in which tone they are written. Aristocratic 536 (talk) 04:20, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

@Aristocratic 536: It isn't clear to me what your question is, but regardless; please read WP:DUE. Wikipedia writes what reliable sources say, and reliable sources support the narratives in those articles. Vanamonde (Talk) 04:26, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Ok i will kept that in Mind The point was simple he got clean chit in the case During Congress rule and still saying alleged role in Riots, What more can i say,There are thousands of sources for One information and we should go for more accepted versions,instead of what suit your own Narrative,anyway i gave citation from Times of India and Ndtv who themselve are left allinged,Anyway i wont do edits in these topics in future as there is no point in wasting time. Aristocratic 536 (talk) 04:29, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Anyway i will kept that in Mind,what u said. Cheers Aristocratic 536 (talk) 04:39, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Image Of Narender Modi

Hello i recently add photo of Narendra Modi from a event show in 2013 Even u know such changes dont make much diff either i Just update the photo of few years back and its ok to have such changes kindly tell the users Prolifiix to not revert my photo edits again. Aristocratic 536 (talk) 03:33, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

@Aristocratic 536: I'm not going to do that; any changes to the image require consensus on the talk page, and as the person seeking to make the change, you need to obtain consensus. Vanamonde (Talk) 04:16, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Ok.Aristocratic 536 (talk) 05:07, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

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Bunbury Wildlife Park

Hello - can you please tell me why you didn't even ask me about the Bunbury Wildlife Park redirect before you closed the discussion? The park is not mentioned there because I hadn't added it yet. What you did is not right. Can you please restore the content so I can add it? Deus et lex (talk) 12:19, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

@Deus et lex: If you are planning to redirect it, as you imply, you don't need the original page, surely? Vanamonde (Talk) 16:24, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

I want to put some of the content from the original page on there. Can I please have it restored somewhere? Deus et lex (talk) 22:31, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

@Deus et lex: Alright, I've created a redirect and restored the history; please include the term at the target soon, else it's quite possible it will end up at RfD. Vanamonde (Talk) 04:30, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

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Thank you for your close on the failed deletion attempt for A Wet Dream on Elm Street! What do you think of the article improvements? Right cite (talk) 17:52, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

@Right cite: I'm sorry, it's not my area of interest, and I don't have the time to examine it in detail. Vanamonde (Talk) 04:31, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Vanamonde93, okay no problem, thanks for your close of the discussion! Right cite (talk) 04:33, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

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Please delete the revision of 117.230.146.220 and edit summaries of VIJAY BHAGAMATHIE in Christianity in Kerala. Thank you, SUN EYE 1 07:11, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

@Suneye1:, done. It looks as though an SPI may be necessary; perhaps one has been opened already? Vanamonde (Talk) 16:57, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, I haven't opened an SPI yet as the master is blocked indefinitely and will open one if this continues. SUN EYE 1 17:04, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Arbitration amendment request: The Troubles

Hi Vanamonde! Since you were the one who opened a related thread on AN re this user and DYK, I thought you might be interested in weighing in now that he is appealing the AE sanctions. Cheers! Bloom6132 (talk) 10:45, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

@Bloom6132: I did see that had been opened; I am reserving comment for the moment, but will keep an eye on it. Vanamonde (Talk) 22:18, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Yusuf bin Ahmad al-Kawneyn

Hello as the closing admin for this rfc [1]. The ethnicity of the subject was considered disputed however new editors are trying to ignore the consensus and pushing for a one sided POV. Can you please step in here? [2] Magherbin (talk) 03:10, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

I would like to say Magherbin was against the neutral users who were the first ones to propose an ethnicity section. None of Magherbin sources were removed. However, he couldn't tolerate the sources that discredited his sources so he resulted in edit warring and even tried to falsely accuse individuals as sock puppets just because they were against his point of view. [3] He has failed to counter any argument and failed to engage in good faith. [4] All he resorts to is by removing sourced content without discussing it on the talk page. [5] He's being very disruptive and I would be honoured if you could check on his behaviour as he is not following the Wiki guideline. Ayaltimo (talk) 03:50, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

@Magherbin and Ayaltimo: I cannot verify the page in question; can you provide a precise quote of the source being used to support "Somali ethnicity"? Vanamonde (Talk) 22:17, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

@Ragnimo could explain it better. He'll provide you with the sources. Ayaltimo (talk) 22:41, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

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Kalaripayattu

Religious fanatics are taking ownership at Kalaripayattu and not allowing any edits deviating from their agenda. The worst part is it is pending-changes protected and they all are confirmed accounts who can make changes without scrutiny. None of them give proper explanation for reverting, and sometimes blatantly reverts multiple edits (edited with proper edit summary) without explanation. Two of them have COI as evident from their usernames (Kalari). Their main business is promoting their POV and highlighting Hinduism part, though Kalaripayattu do have rituals based on Hinduism, the art itself is not a "Hindu art", it just happened to have originated when only Hindu "religion" was prevalent in Kerala. It is a martial art practised by all religious communities, many of the masters are Muslims, the Christians even have a folk dance derived from Kalaripayattu. Some Hindu extremists are "making statements" by projecting Hinduism on an otherwise communally harmonious martial art. BTW, I am also a Hindu, but this is too much.

The first time my edit got reverted (see history here onward), I never thought it was religious agenda, but now it's becoming clearer, as User:Kalariwarrior changed "Indian mythology" to "Hindu mythology" (source says former), and User:Kalari Poothara's recent Hinduism promotion in lead, and as Outlander07 is now trying to re-insert Hinduism claims (not in the source) in lead which I had removed; he had also removed a sourced mention about a Hindu lower-caste community – Thiyya. There are multiple legends on the creator - Parashurama, Shiva, Agasthya; they want Parashurama, not only that, they don't want to attribute it as "legend" (I agree with [6]). I suspect Outlander07 and Kalariwarrior to be the same person, all three are incompetent in editing. The article requires serious cleanup for sourcing and NPOV. Should I report this activity to WP:ANI, or somewhere else, or what? Please help. 2409:4073:498:FC1B:D8B9:3996:7732:334 (talk) 20:02, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Abusive Language

Hlello Mate Ravi Mavi abused me recently for Talk page of Tomaras because he cant counter me with Facts Kindly block Him he is Really Caste boomer and has been Targeting me many times. Cheers. Samboy 01681 (talk) 09:55, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

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