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Hi

Hope everything is good with you. Could you please take a look at the articles about Christopher Wollter and Julia Dufvenius. Any help is appreciated as always. Thanks.BabbaQ (talk) 12:17, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

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Need assistance with the Singles section in Patrick Fiori's Wikipedia Page

I noticed you helped a lot with that section, so thank you so much! Now, I just need to figure out how to get rid of one more thing that I don't think he sang without ruining all your hard work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Fiori#Singles

I don't think Patrick ever sang All By Myself, so I tried to get rid of it, but it kept messing with the table and even when I tried to fix it, it still looked bad. Please help. Thanks in advance. Hajiru (talk) 11:15, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you for your help! Have a barnstar! :D Hajiru (talk) 22:27, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Rihand (disambiguation)

The article Rihand (disambiguation) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Unnecessary disambiguation page. Just two dabs at present, both are kinda WP:PTM, and one of these topics is the primary one anyway (I would argue the dam, since it gets 5x as many pageviews), but Rihand currently redirects to the river. Hatnotes should be used for navigation here.

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DYK for Christopher Wollter

On 15 February 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Christopher Wollter, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Swedish actor Christopher Wollter started his career as a teenage reporter for the SVT children's television show Barnjournalen? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Christopher Wollter. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Christopher Wollter), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

BabbaQ (talk) 00:03, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Beur FM

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Mizanur Rahman Azhari

Dear friend Werldwayd, I hope you are fine. I’ll be very grateful if you will please take a look at the Mizanur Rahman Azhari page, and at the most recent comments on my own talk page. Another editor has created an excessively frivolous article, listing, for example, dozens of non-notable lectures referenced only by YouTube. I’ll be enormously grateful if you can help to keep this article reliable and sensible in scope and focus. Thank you. All good wishes, George Custer's Sabre (talk) 05:41, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

• Welcome. For one the article is very poorly written. Even in grammar it needs huge improvements, let alone that the YouTube sources quoting each and every YouTube tape unacceptable and promotional. As if it is some sort of advertising. Any way I'll correct language and leave the rest for AfD discussion where I also left my comments. werldwayd (talk)

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Canto Católico

Good evening Werldwayd, I've read your article about the song 10,000 Reasons (Bless the Lord). I am not an expert of Christian music but I think this Spanish group has made a notable music and video.

I won't sponsor the choir, that I don't know perosnally and to which I hadn't any kind of contact. They publish uniquely free video on Youtube and aren't mentioned yet on en.wikipedia. I was just looking for a quotation rather than a WP article.Do you think this is the case?

Thanks for your eventual opnion and help. Micheledisaveriosp (talk) 23:00, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

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@Primefac: Is there any written policy/guideline on that? Olisaiuer (talk) 16:37, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

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Hi

I hope you are safe in these times of COVID-19! Anyway, as always any help on Gunnar Seijbold is appreciated. Regards.BabbaQ (talk) 10:11, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

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@Werldwayd: I have reverted your move. You did not discuss it anywhere. Also, there is another Jesuit priest named James Martin (as seen in the hatnote) therefore "Jesuit priest" is an ambiguous disambiguation. Elizium23 (talk) 22:53, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

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Please take a look at the article about The Skandia man that I created. He is very likely to be revealed as the killer of Olof Palme who was shot in 1986. As Swedish police will announce the final results of the investigation now in June. --BabbaQ (talk) 19:36, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Regarding your minor edit on "Modern Loneliness"

Hey, I was just taking a look at the edit(s) you made on "Modern Loneliness" and was wondering on why the second part of the intro should be moved in 'Background and impact'. I based the article on previous articles made on songs/singles, including "If I Were a Boy" and "Everything I Wanted", with the latter being more of a similar length to the article. Those two articles I mentioned put a brief summary of each section in the intro, which is what I though I did (or at least it was my intention). Here's a link to the current revision and the (previous revision) I'm referring to.

Also, besides that, what are your opinions on the article based on the grading scheme? What can I improve on for this and future articles? Thanks for all the help. BenevolentBeast (talk) 03:03, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

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Greetings Matthew

Move of paragraph from intro

The reason I moved that second section lower Matthew is that I felt the intro was too long anyway. Usually that type of material we place in "background" section. But now I realize the subject matter of this song particularly what he tries to convey in the music video is very relevant in this case, so it is well worth placing after all in the intro, which I have now done reversing my edit, although in general such material belongs to the background section. The examples of the other two songs was relevant and I have reconsidered my edit and reinstated it.

You have done a wonderful job Matt for a brilliant song and clearly a very talented singer songwriter. He has this aura about him that one brief look, and you are impacted by his personality. And you get hooked to what he's gonna say. So you can be proud of what you have done for a song that didn't chart very well but is far more precious than those making the Top 10 any time. I knew next to nothing about Lauv 2 days ago. But then I saw his MTV Live performance and I was captivated and checked your page on Wikipedia and made the edit. By the way, I never knew about Lauv and this is the only one I've listened to. I'll rectify it later when I have time, but for now I want this song to sink in if you know what I mean. I don't want to dilute my pleasure with other songs of his. This is sublime enough and now I've seen like 10-15 different takes and its amazing.

Reservations

But still I have strong feelings about some excerpts which I personally do not feel really belong there in an intro. For example: " It received mixed reviews from critics with a consensus view on what it stands for." Sure... But anything receives mixed reviews. Why highlight this in an intro? This is just a subjective view of some "experts". Also the whole sentence is not "well written". It is a huge downer for me. Or for example this which is borderline "trivia" stuff unfit of an intro: "Fans were featured on the video as well, with some dancing with him to the track, and others through making a cover of the song." Doesn't add much to what the essence of the song is. Me I would have put this interactive thing with fans in the "music video" section instead where it belongs.

My suggestion is to keep second paragraph more simple like:

QUOTE: A song revolving around feeling lonely in the modern age, the lyrics express that although people are more connected than ever due to the rise of social media, this connection still has its negative effects as most are not genuine and does not replace real-life relationships. The accompanying music video revolved around Lauv using social media but not feeling happy nor positive while using it, relating to its lyrics. The single peaked at number 14 on Billboard's US Bubbling Under Hot 100 chart. UNQUOTE

and relegate the more offbeat comments lower... But that's just me. Give it a thought and do what you feel is appropriate.

Already what you have done Matthew is tremendous for any song in Wikipedia. This is already impressive beyond belief. The length you have gone to for a worthy coverage is mind boggling. It is a "labour of love" actually and very much worthwhile. I am sure it was greatly rewarding and gratifying to you personally and you'll remember this edit many years from now as one of your "high points" in editing.

Appearances

But I would add, if I were you, I would add some significant performances of the song in "Appearances" new section on the page. For example his appearance in Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon here. This is highly significant. You can mention the whole setting in this performance, singing in the public, then in a couch setting with what you think are actors, then suddenly they become this fascinating backing vocalists, then the standing ovation.

Another very notable performance that needs to be included is the MTV Live performance here. Actually this was the first time I heard the song and it is being put on MTV Europe video programming all over Europe. The British MTV has put it in their Top 40 show in the UK as a possible coming hit. Known as "Modern Loneliness (MTV Live Performance)", this version has become, at least in UK and European continent, an "official live version" of the song for obvious reasons, even more so than the actual music video itself. I dedicate this particular MTV performance to you for your profound work on this song in Wikipedia.

Also significant is the "Modern Loneliness" Acoustic (Live on MTV news) found here with no backing vocalists for a change. It is significant as it is a national broadcast.

Other significant appearances which can be mentioned in passing on the page is performance during the Rolling Stone "In My Room" IGTV series here and in GMA here. There's also the Album Release Party performance with IHeartRadio LiveXLive here

All these "appearances" would make a wonderful two three sentences to highlight media presence and impact.

Lyrics

I just love the section "Critical reception" section. You have done huge research in tens of publications and media outlets and it is just perfect. I reread it three more times and it's amazing. I also went through some of the actual articles you quote to read what actually they were saying.

About the explanation of the lyrics, its good you point out song is about online connections and loneliness. You highlight " "Modern loneliness, we're never alone / But always depressed, yeah / Love my friends to death / But I never call and I never text, yeah". But then there are part of the lyrics that relate to relationship with parents. This is not covered at all in the page which is a shame as it is central to the song. The opening lines make it very clear: "I've been thinkin' 'bout my father lately / The person that he made me / The person I've become / And I've been tryna fill all of this empty / But, fuck, I'm still so empty" He comes back to this parental subject yet again later when he sings "If I could break my DNA to pieces / Rid of all my demons / If I could cleanse my soul / Then I could fill the world with all my problems / But, shit, that wouldn't solve them / So, I'm left here alone" There was clearly some huge parental impact that has had some life changing impact on this guy. So "DNA" enslaves us with our "demons" and we realize you can't solve it. He also says: "The baggage in my heart is still so dark" (Baggage usually refers to what you get from parents that stick with you for life). It is for a very good reason that in the official music video, there are communications with "Dad" and with "Mom". They ("mom and dad") appear at the end of the video as well in support.

So if you can find a review that tackles this "parental" aspect of the song and son-father relationship, it would also be a great addition, because this is also a majour theme in the song as well. Modern Loneliness is not just about online, but family relations, depression and mental health as well. Even if quotations could not be found, in the "Synopsis" section, a convenient sentence or two could be added about the mom and dad connection while describing the video content. Develop 2-3 sentences to what you report "Towards the end, he starts to text back his friends and family and calls his parents back." which is conveniently there. But it merits some more elaboration.

Conclusion

That's about it Matthew. In conclusion, I must add this communication with you is sort of a tribute to the essence of the "Modern Loneliness" lyric about online communications. Because it effected me greatly. Then I realized your communication on my talk page was so relevant and a very close call to my understanding of the song. It struck a moment in me as it dawned on me what Lauv meant with this gem. I realized you reached me through the internet as a colleague editor, an unknown "Wikipedia friend" I know nothing about, but with clear compassion and resolve to make a contact through an edit I made. And in retrospect I am happy I made it or else all this "magic moment" wouldn't have been possible really, would it? So I wanted to respond so as not to fall to the trap and mistake of "Love my friends to death / But I never call and I never text 'em". We as editors fall into this easy trap and we don't respond and even if we do, it is with bitterness and aggressiveness, a condescending wry comment, or worse, we respond with a one liner let down sentence and just move on. But for me, a communication like yours is an opportunity to prove if you are "an editor friend from Wikipedia" and you really care, as I felt you did, you do deserve my time and effort and that's what I've done as you see. I've put great thought to a way of responding adequately to make an impact as well. Plus this song has effected me tremendously as you see, and now I realize the quality of the Wikipedia article was almost this one-man effort by you to present it in the best way to readers all over the world. It is a "quality product" already. I am sure Lauv fans appreciate what you have done here as well. Hope Lauv has had the time and also has checked this piece in Wikipedia. It is very possible, and if it is, it would be amazing. You deserve a signed copy of the single at least, plus a free ticket, an invitation when he is near your town. Finally a dedication to Filipino friend, who really cares: "Para Sa 'Yo" here by a young Philippines talent Juan Karlos Labajo . For you! werldwayd (talk) 06:47, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

@Werldwayd: Wow, I didn't expect a response like this. If I'm being honest, like you said, I definitely would have expected a one sentence or so response and that's it. When I saw the notification that you replied, I was amazed and was kind of happy to see really detailed feedback, and I just want to say thank you so much. When I looked at your page, I saw that you had 300k+ edits and thought, he might be a bit busy. But I really appreciate you actually taking the time to provide a lot of suggestions that I can definitely work on.

First off, you're right about the introduction. When I was writing the intro, I couldn't exactly come up with the right words, which is why that one sentence sounded sort of bland. I'll definitely take your suggestion on what the 2nd paragraph should look like. I'll add just a bit more info as well as I expand further into the article, if necessary. This is really my first "real" article that I've attempted to do, and I'm happy with the progress that I've made, and would love to make it better than it was before.

As for the appearances, I didn't even think of this part. It just slipped my mind, I guess. I never looked into Lauv's performances of the song, and didn't realize that there were quite a few notable appearances that he made on national TV. I'll make sure to add a new section focusing on that, as it's definitely a major part and could add even more detail to the article than I thought.

I had fun writing the critical reception section. It was interesting to see all the point-of-views of the reviewers. The reviewers add a lot of good commentary, and would definitely try to dig for more to expand the section. For the lyrics, I guess my mind may have slipped on the other meanings of the song. I guess I was just so focused on the "social media" part that I didn't bother to notice and expand on the relationship and other thoughts that he references in the lyrics. Going in deeper into the lyrics is something I will add for sure, and hopefully I'll be able to find more reviews that can support these meanings. And adding more to the music video section is probably a good idea. I was looking at other articles (for example, the one I mentioned earlier: If I Were A Boy) and they really went in-depth to capture more of the song's meaning. I love this and will incorporate these types of writing into this article.

Like I said earlier, I didn't expect a reply like this and I really, really appreciate it. You pointed out a lot of things that could definitely be fixed or added to make the article even better. I'm basically still new to the whole Wikipedia community; before this article, I have only made three small stubs and a start-class article. But when I remembered this song, I thought to myself—why doesn't this track have it's own page yet? It made many news articles and is one of Lauv's most important releases to date, even though like you said, it did not chart very well. What's surprising to me is it never even broke the Billboard Hot 100 chart, but that's alright I guess. What matter is the content of the song, not the success nor achievements. But anyway, this is why I decided to take the opportunity to attempt to write it.

Overall, I just want to say that your comments will make the article better than it ever was before. Unfortunately, I have an exam coming up in a few days, in which I have to focus on that for a bit. But rest assured, I will be doing more and more research on the song within the next few weeks. I really hope you can come back in some time to see the progress. As my first serious article, I want it to be the best it can possibly be and hopefully everything will go well.

Once you decide to take a look at his other songs, I know you won't be disappointed. Although I haven't gone through How I'm Feeling as much besides the 10 singles and a few songs here and there, I know it's all likely good and hopefully you'll enjoy them as well. His previous album, I Met You When I Was 18 (The Playlist) is definitely a great listen. Though most of the album is a bit emotional (with the exception of tracks 1, 2, 10, 12, and 13, which are all more upbeat), they are great songs to listen to. If you'd like, update me on that, it would be cool to see if you like his other tracks or not. But, of course, no rush and no obligation. Also, I never thought of Lauv himself possibly reading the article, but ever since one of my friends read my other article and pointed out that the artist could have possibly read it, it's weird but it makes sense. If he ever does see it, that would actually be really cool. By the way, that song you linked at the end was pretty good. I don't typically listen to much OPM but when I do, it's usually not bad.

I hope you have a great day in the midst of the current worldwide situation. BenevolentBeast (talk) 07:58, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

All the best for your exams. I have added added the cover according to this Apple page It looks awfully similar to the album cover. Perhaps it is not an actual cover and Apple is all wrong about it. But let's keep it in for now until the distributing company comes with a new cover design. If you are sure the cover is wrong though, take it off. Mind you in Europe some use this Cover in Netherlands, or in Cover in Belgium. Incidentally the page you created now has visits of between 50 and 70 views on average every day (particularly these last few days it has seen a sharp rise) (See updated visits per day) Here some Stats to make you appreciate your work. Almost 96% of the work is your text!

I have now added the Belgian chart peak on the table on the page by this edit. I'll keep an eye if there are more chartings in Europe. I think this will be growing with time.

You say the track has two videos—a visualizer and a music video. But with the two videos you mention there is a third "official video" published by Lauv on his own page "Modern Loneliness (acoustic) [Official Video]" (video here). So I think this needs a mentioned in the "Music Video" section as a third video. It has no backing vocals. Just him and the guitar.

Some sources you may have not used, but very relevant: MTV News, CLASH (an amazing source I must say and a precious interview), LaViasco (this goes into detail of each verse and contains good coverage of the son-father relationship), DustTalks (a great source for analysis of the lyrics - I am sure you will find a few ideas from here to cover lyrics) Summit (analysis from a Christian perspective) and so on... I could edit from these myself, but I'd rather leave them to your sensible editing. I want you to have this as a memorable magical edit page. I'll only make some nominal maintenance edits, but for development of text and content, it's yours. But exams first! This can wait. werldwayd (talk) 10:10, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

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Enough with partisan massive edits on both sides

Our Malankara Church article is about the "historical Malankara church". But because of recent conflicts between the Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church and the Jacobite Syrian Christian Church, this article has become the battleground between editors biased towards this church or that church on both sides of the conflict. So we see these massive shifts in which what should be a more static "historical Wikipedia page" become so unrecognizable in the wink of an eye. So as if in a matter of few days we have a "new" historical fact of a new church. I mean what could have happened in a matter of few days to add or subtract from a well-grounded article this much. I assume a small paragraph at the end needs to tackle the conflict in a grounded manner, but the overall article should be left alone. I have had enough of this meddling with what should be a stable historical and reliable article. A committee of let's say three detached non-biased but knowledgeable editors should be assigned to which all suggested edits should be forwarded to. It would be good that these editors know a lot about the nuances and can pick what is a genuine proposed edit and what is a biased partisan edit and decide. Those who propose changes should have an editor name (so no anonymous editors) and they should have at least say 500 edits to prove they are genuinely interested in the welfare of the Wikipedia project and are not here for some one-subject partisan interest and no other contribution except fixation in this one subject. I hope this page and probably (for the next few months) the pages of the Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church and the Jacobite Syrian Christian Church are subject to stricter surveillance and higher requirements for being able to change them. werldwayd (talk) 23:52, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Werldwayd, if/when you suspect sockpuppetry, we are handling that at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kkktpkirij. Elizium23 (talk) 23:59, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

No, I am not suggesting sockpuppetry at all. What I mean is that we have very much biased a sort of "activism editing" in which "my side is always right and the other side always wrong". Plus if an editor is only concerned and fixated with just one subject, he or she is not well-intentioned editor as all he wants from the Wikipedia project is this one page to be alligned to what he thinks it should be alligned to. In these turbulent times of a great historical church, one of the most ancient of the general Christian Church, if this church is passing through an internal conflict, why should an entire "historical Malankara Church page" be subject to such massive restructuring and editing? I know the article suffers from a very big concern that over the years, it has included very biased editors who jeopardized the overall neutrality. The role of my suggested three-member committee is to study the article, all its references, its present and earlier content, keep what is accurate and remove what is inaccurate and reinstate what was accurate earlier but had been removed by later edit. A sort of a truly encyclopedic solid article in a moraturium month let's say, and after that only nominal changes should be made only, as history is history after all, and not much new facts can arise with such an article. It's not that this is a new church that is rising. It was around many centuries ago. Then it stopped being and is taken over by a multitude of new churches. The Malankara Church page to my mind should be comprehensive, but static and solidly stable werldwayd (talk) 00:12, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Whatever you suggest, sockpuppetry is very much a factor on these pages and has been for months. We've been blocking lots of socks and they are the source of much disruptive editing. We've also been using WP:RFPP to protect pages against newly-created socks, and that's been quite effective, along with new "partial blocks" where an IP range or username can be blocked from editing a specified number of specific pages. Elizium23 (talk) 00:14, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Again, if sockpuppetry needs to be addressed here, all the power to you. But in essence sockpuppetry is not the real issue at the end. A sockpuppet can go to an anonymous internet cafe and edit. There is no proof he is the same guy. He can go to a friend's domicile somewhere else, create an editor name, or just ask his friend to do the desired edits.... It's sort of "war on drugs" or fighting global terrorism now.... The real issue, to my mind is the mindset of "partisan editing" or "activist editing". It's sort of a propaganda scheme or some "holy war". What I am talking is a mentality of why and how one should actually edit Wikipedia. Mind you it can be an editor who has never ever done a single edit in Wikipedia. He is an inexperienced newcomer and is for some valid reason involved as a member of one of these Malankara churches. I mean you search what interests you or involves you, right? But this newcomer is so incensed by our Malankara article, the first edit he makes is this massive change in the article. Every single detail is amended by him. Now this should stop. No anonymous editing should be allowed and let's say 500 edits in a multitude of subject before changing this one page and disappearing. All the rest should address their proposed changes to a committee and the latter tackles how important it is to make the change and how to make it. And first and foremost. All the earlier materials should be questioned and the article cleansed, including biased partisan references so that we have a solid reliable article. As much as I love Wikipedia, Malankara Church, Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church and the Jacobite Syrian Christian Church that we have are highly questionable and suspect and at best, one sided, and I would take every single paragraph I read in them with a pinch of salt. werldwayd (talk) 00:27, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Good; as it is, page protection is in place now, and will expire in 9 hours. So let's be vigilant for disruptive editing in all its forms, and resubmit the article to WP:RFPP, and we'll get our wish that only autoconfirmed users may edit the page. Elizium23 (talk) 00:54, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Well I've had my say. And I do appreciate you helpful comments here and your due diligence remarkable edits on the page. But what I know is that these articles have been subject to those one-sided edits for many years past, are still a battleground today and will remain so for many months and years to come. So temporary restrictions may help for a few days. But the problem persists and will return as soon as the restrictions expire. A more permanent upkeep is necessary and some dedicated editor. Pay them a nominal monthly salary if need be. Say 100 dollars a month for his precious time and knowledge... It's too much to handle for some dedicated editor being a sort of "guardian angel" or "redeeming saviour" for months and months and gets a lot of abuse and no pay and gets burnt out. Then he quits and we find a new unpaid dedicated editor who now goes to the same process before he gets burnt out as well. And the abuse on the page continues... So all the best to you. Really and honestly. But if we think of our temporary "a week or two" measures or discovering a sockpuppet here and there is such a great achievement... you need to know our "one month Wikipedia timeframe" is a "second" or two in Malankara Church time. This is a church of centuries for good reason. It has been going on if you believe their church history since St. Thomas, yeh, that Thomas who was one of the chosen twelve apostles of Jesus Christ, the Messiah, Son of God, the one who is expected to come in a great messianic event.... Yes this is the one St. Thomas who infamously didn't believe Jesus' (Messiah's) resurrection and demanded that Jesus appear to him and the rest so that he would put his finger on the hands of Jesus that showed the nail scars he suffered on the Cross... That Thomas that traveled to India, an unknown land, to establish this thing called Malankara Church we are talking about endlessly 1900 years on, give or take. The Malankara Church tradition is that he died their for his beloved Malankara Church that he established for the love of Jesus and mankind... I mean this subject is so timeless and engaging me and you have spent on this for a few hours of our precious time in one infamous Friday the 22nd of May 2020 in corona days, without finding a single other editor to intervene and give his or her opinion for a change... I mean this subject page is that engaging. But I can assure you from now that Wikipedia will disappear from the face of the Earth but Malankara Church and its continuing modern-day derivatives will go on and on and on long after we're gone in the ether. Let's see others address this issue though. I'll watch the page for sure but am moving on to other subjects... werldwayd (talk) 01:11, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

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Jubël (duo)

Hey Werldwayd. Would you be willing to expand Jubël (duo) into an article? I was just notified that this and Jubël (band) have been nominated for deletion, and I think it's pointless as the band have had more entries in Europe than just their cover of "Dancing in the Moonlight". Thanks. Ss112 15:33, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. I am happy you contacted me after all this time. I appreciated you great contributions and chart updates. And I appreciate your edits from time to time. But no rush. A person like you could have a chart website on your own. You were visiting all these chart pages and you probably know a lot about international music. I will definitly try to come up with an article for Jubël as well in a couple of days I hope. I do really believe Wikipedia is not doing enough to highlight international music. Yes we have a lot, but we miss a lot as well. werldwayd (talk) 15:46, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the well wishes you left on my talk page a few months back and here now. I've semi-returned to editing, but also remain semi-retired. I haven't gotten back into doing chart updates, and I don't particularly wish to or see myself doing so. There are other users covering most of that now, and I'm fine with that freeing up most of the time I used to dedicate to doing them, although I do agree with your point that Wikipedia's coverage is lacking on international non-English music. Anyway, thanks if you can get around to expanding the article. Ss112 16:15, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks User talk:Ss112. After your great words, I am even more motivated to at least launch a page for Jubël. I am also having this "Wikipedia fatigue" by now and don't edit that much. I am happy you keep at least a token link with Wikipedia. Plus that your tremendous input for years to Wikipedia Music was legendary and much appreciated. I can't forget that. I used to keep up just the music number ones pages and it was so much work. But you were updating all the new entries and the new peaks of all the songs and with much better referencing than I could ever do. That was awesome. So I quit even doing the number ones. In any case, there are times we have to set our priorities and if necessary call quits here. The whole Wikipedia system is built on voluntary efforts of people who have this idealistic vision that they are contributing meaningfully to a greater project and that they are appreciated by many. Then some stupid discussion and so much insult makes us realise that our sacrifices were not considered at all by other trigger-happy colleagues and administrators. I am surprised how people like me just continue to donate our times this way. Me I almost never take part in discussions because of their toxic atmosphere. I make one token effort to save an article and if I get a tit for tat or firey answer, I just quit. They can delete it for all I care. And move on to some other article myself. No one article or position is worth the risk. I just mind my business and almost totally ignore discussing after a token intervention. Still thanks to you. By the way, I love Jubël. I find them fascinating. werldwayd (talk) 16:31, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Jubël - Dancing in the Moonlight

Hello Werldwayd

I wanted to thank you for your contributions to the Jubël version of Dancing in the moonlight. I thought I would let you know that I have added some more charts and a certifications table (although it has displayed using the American MDY date format whereas the chart table uses the DMY date format, I’m not sure why this is?)

Thanks again, TF0771 (talk) 12:08, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

The reason for using DMY was because Jubël is a Swedish act and in Sweden they use DMY. But since the great majority of the page is in MDY, go ahead, you have my go ahead to convert all of the ones appearing as DMY to MDY for consistency in the whole article. werldwayd (talk) 19:32, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your response, I will do this now. TF0771 (talk) 20:54, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

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Süßer die Glocken nie klingen

You created the redirect for Süßer die Glocken nie klingen to "the writer", but it's the wrong person. Did you read that article? Just wondering ... - No need to change, and the correct one has no article, - I'll substitute by an article about the song tomorrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:45, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Gerda Arendt. Well I was depending on the List of carols under German. Now as a rectifying move, I have redirected like this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christmas_carols#German which is our page List of Christmas#German which is the best move for now. It explains as "The Bells Never Sound Sweeter" / Traditional / Wilhelm Kritzinger .... So you see my obvious confusion with Friedrich Wilhelm Kritzinger. In this latter article it says his father was a Christian pastor. Is it actually his father we are talking about? In any case, now the forward is to the Christmas carols page, so accurate. Hopefully some fellow editor will use this as an incentive to create a full article for this popular Christmas song werldwayd (talk) 21:33, 21 October 2020 (UTC) werldwayd (talk) 22:43, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Looking forward for a full article on this from you. Don't forget also the language versions and covers by well known artists recording it. WE thankfully have a German article about it already in Wikipedia in addition to Spanish, Italian and Polish. So an English article will fill a great need for coverage of a wonderful song. werldwayd (talk) 00:04, 22 October 2020 (UTC) werldwayd (talk) 00:08, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

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Athletico SC

Hi, I think the disambig page should be merged with Atletico into one page, with the various Athletico SC's and Atlético's redirecting to the same page. Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 15:44, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for suggesting. But Atletico had just two items whereas I had collected more than10-12 items and I thought the English Athletico would be better for English Wikipedia. But now that most of the items I have added are Atlético, I have taken your suggestion and moved them there. werldwayd (talk) 17:06, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Perfect, thanks! Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 21:07, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

God bless. والله كنت نور ونعمة عليّي werldwayd (talk) 21:12, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

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Hello. I've attempted to fix the links to dabs resulting from the Atlético F.C. move, but it's a complex web of redirects and renamings and I may have made mistakes. Please can you check my work? Thanks, Certes (talk) 11:18, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

I appreciate so much your work Certes and thank God for DisamAssist without which this would have been an impossible task. It was wrong from the outset to establish Atletico FC for one specific club, even if it was called Atlético Fútbol Club as you realize Atletico FC applies to hundreds of teams. So I don't know why that one team was chosen for this. It had to be changed to Atlético FC Cali or whatever. Plus there were so many links as Dépor F.C.. Also Atlético Juventud is also a common generic name of many clubs, so I had to change that specific one to Atlético Juventud Girardot. There are many Atlético Juventuds. Atletico SC was also a very common name, so why assign it to some obscure Lebanese women's team in a small town. All these generic names needed to be corrected. I am so sad this caused so many wrong links in Wikipedia that needed fixing, but now you have done an admirable job for which I am forever thankful. I am checking the corrections one by one and they look fine. werldwayd (talk) 11:39, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

You're right that there are other clubs called Atlético Juventud, such as Juventud de Las Piedras, Juventud Unida Universitario and Juventud de Pergamino. I retargeted that redirect to Atlético Juventud Girardot, but perhaps it should be a {{R from ambiguous term}} or even a new dab and its incoming links changed. My other concern was that some links to Athletico SC (Lebanon) clearly refer to men's football. I'm going to assume that the "homonymous sports academy" also had a male team not mentioned in the article; it's no worse than linking Atlético Cali from 2019 Colombian Women's Football League. Certes (talk) 12:03, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks for thanking me for starting the page. But mine was a modest start, a very very modest for the page when she had just one or two hits. I heard them and I liked them. So I rushed creating the page. I was terrified though some colleague would come swiftly and suggest deleting it for lack of notability, lack of references etc. But it stayed strangely enough and now look at the page! Yes I was so excited for an unknown Swedish singer, but never expected it would blossom into this. So impressive. I am though still with the small guy as always. I always have that fear they will delete a page I really cared for... So despite all my edits, I still fear such a treatment. But when a page gets real big, you won't see me edit in a page like Tove Lo anymore. She is so big now, my effort is better used somewhere else. At the time I was the one. The only one practically. Now there are hundreds of volunteers... but not me. Still thanks anyway. You made my day and made me reminisce the days when my service was needed. This is my two cents for fellow editors. That they err to the side of inclusiveness. Someone somewhere needs our input. Perhaps the artist himself or herself in his/her greatest time of need for being acknowledged. When they get real big eventually, who needs an editor like me anyway. werldwayd (talk) 00:43, 29 October 2020 (UTC) werldwayd (talk) 00:47, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Your reply made me smile during the entire time I was reading your comment @Werldwayd:, Lo's music means a lot to me and I certainly dose to you too! I related completely when you talked about getting a page deleted. I had the same fear after my first page, that someone would suggest it getting deleted because of some strange reason, but no, it stayed! My very first article/draft/sandbox wasn't so lucky though... when I received the "welcome to the TeaHouse" notification, my day would be completely ruined. You were the one to start Lo's page and you built the foundation for that article, now people are building the rest, and look at it now! It's now a Wikipedia:Good article! Thank you for creating the article when you did, and for your work on this wonderful piece of art! Thank you so much! Much love,--Los Perros pueden Cocinar (talk) 02:05, 29 October 2020 (UTC) <3

Thanks again. When you have a problem with editing or a page you proposed is being nominated for deletion, I would love to help if possible. Drop a line on my talk page. You have to restore at least a minimum user page as well now deleted. Nothing elaborate mind you. Just what areas you love editing, what are your priorities editing and how they can contact you. It shouln't be a red link. Just 3-4 lines will do. Meanwhile all the best. It was a pleasure. werldwayd (talk) 07:44, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Will do! I'll let you know if I need help! Thanks for the proposal, and thanks for the page! --Los Perros pueden Cocinar (talk) 14:01, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

UFO Yepha

Hi, they didn't have an & in their name. While you're at it, you can link Yepha which you made later on. TherasTaneel (talk) 21:54, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your note. I have fixed the name and linked to Yepha as well. Thanks again werldwayd (talk) 22:40, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

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