Wiziesan

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User:Wazirinbida

You removed this without answering the questions: Please answer the questions.

Why are you removing administrative sockpuppet tags from User:Wazirinbida? Are you User:Wazirinbida? -- Begoon 07:11, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

No, I just checked the block log, and I saw names that's are blocked, his name was blocked without offend,he one of Wikipedia, user that is good in article and editing, that's why . But sorry I won't try it again (Wiziesan (talk) 07:16, 25 September 2019 (UTC))

• Which "block log" were you checking? Can you link to it so that I can see what you were looking at?
• Why do you think "he" was "blocked without offend"? How could you know whether "he" was using alternative accounts to avoid scrutiny (sockpuppeting) or not?
• If, as you say, you saw "names" why did you choose that particular user to remove a tag from? -- Begoon 07:39, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Because he's new user with many contribution, i have check his pages he edit and contribute, he's about 900 edit, as new user that's why — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiziesan (talk • contribs) 07:47, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Well that doesn't really answer my questions, but thank you for the reply anyway. -- Begoon 07:54, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

An extended welcome

Hi Wiziesan. Welcome to Wikipedia. I've added a welcome message to the top of this page that gives a great deal of information about Wikipedia. I hope you find it useful.

Additionally, I hope you don't mind if I share some of my thoughts on starting out as a new editor on Wikipedia: If I could get editors in your situation to follow just one piece of advice, it would be this: Learn Wikipedia by working only on non-contentious topics until you have a feel for the normal editing process and the policies that usually come up when editing casually. You'll find editing to be fun, easy, and rewarding. The rare disputes are resolved quickly and easily.

Working on biographical information about living persons is far more difficult. Wikipedia's Biographies of living persons policy requires strict adherence to multiple content policies, and applies to all information about living persons including talk pages.

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Some topic areas within Wikipedia have special editing restrictions that apply to all editors. It's best to avoid these topics until you are extremely familiar with all relevant policies and guidelines.

I hope you find some useful information in all this, and welcome again. --Ronz (talk) 17:20, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks(Wiziesan (talk) 12:23, 16 October 2019 (UTC))

Proposed deletion of Tatiana Manaois

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OK I'll Add more source, but already one source Is there (Wiziesan (talk) 15:23, 16 October 2019 (UTC))

Speedy deletion nomination of Pulse Nigeria

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Your user page

Please remove from your user page the templates/topicons for user-rights which you do not have:- autopatrolled, new page reviewer, pending changes reviewer, page mover. These are deceptive and may mislead other editors - I'm not sure why you would wish to do that... It would also be nice, for the same reason, if you removed all the userboxes saying you are a member of projects when you are not.

Removing the false user-rights items is important, and you should do that immediately. Removing the other stuff is up to you, but, as I say, I'm not sure why you would wish to mislead other editors. Thank you. -- Begoon 09:18, 18 October 2019 (UTC) OK I'll do that (Wiziesan (talk))

Tatiana Manaois

what about this sources, https://www.tuko.co.ke/302860-tatiana-manaois-songs-albums-videos.html and this one https://www.legit.ng/1223770-latest-tatiana-manaois-songs-2018-2019.html is it OK (Wiziesan (talk) 07:23, 19 October 2019 (UTC))

You can use the first one (tuko.co.ke). It's not very good, but just about good enough. While I'm here, have you decided to be honest about your previous accounts yet, because it's quite obvious to me from your editing pattern and style that you are User:Wazirinbida, avoiding your block. If you are honest about it now it might count in your favour - otherwise I'll need to get a WP:CHECKUSER to investigate. -- Begoon 08:11, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

• I'm Male user, and You are talking about a Female user that is user:waziribida, but she is my Paternal Twin Sister, I finally confirm, The other day you ask me about her,
• Sometimes She use my phone Hotspots, to connect with her laptop WiFi, if she have an assignment or project that she would work on internet, And She's the person that introduce me to Wikipedia, she thought me everything in wiki, She is My Twin sis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiziesan (talk • contribs) 11:30, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

What is a "Paternal Twin Sister"?... Anyway, I don't believe a word of it. Above, you said "I saw names that's are blocked, his name was blocked without offend,he one of Wikipedia, user that is good in article and editing". I don't like being lied to. Read WP:LITTLEBROTHER, particularly: "Insulting the ... intelligence is the last thing a ... person should want to do, and in fact it often goes to show how a person has failed to change and in many ways shows why a person shouldn't be unblocked.". -- Begoon 11:44, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

• I told you that I confirmed from her that, she was the user:waziribida, but before that I don't know that user,
• And the reason why I unblocked user:waziribida is that, she has more that 900 edit count, that's the reason.

Thinking may be she was blocked by mistake, you know am a new user, am trying my best,

• she introduce me to Wikipedia, teaching me how to edit and other things, And fact about me I'm not a liar, and that is it
• And fact about user:waziribida, she is my Twin Sister

• About '"Insulting the ... intelligence is the last thing a ... person should want to do, and in fact it often goes to show how a person has failed to change and in many ways shows why a person shouldn't be unblocked"' Am sorry about this, if you're angry with that Sir, but that's not what I meant

• And Paternal or Identical, we look alike, the differences is that she is Female — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiziesan (talk • contribs) 12:22, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Ok, here's what I'm going to do (although I can't promise what anyone else might decide to do)

• I don't believe a word of the "twin sister" story, apart from being such a common excuse there are far too many holes in your story
• There's an old saying "what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive"

However:

• I don't think you're malicious - I think you basically mean well, but are really bad at listening and following advice

So:

• I'm not going to ask for you to be blocked at this point (you almost certainly would be)

But:

• If I see you being deceptive, disruptive, or ignoring advice just one more time, I will ask for you to be blocked

That's the best I can do. -- Begoon 13:20, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

• answer=You don't believe I have twin sister but matter of fact I'm Twin by birth, Boy and Girl
• answer=OK sorry, for me not listening to advice
• answer=Anything next I want to do I'll talk to you First, if it's OK — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiziesan (talk • contribs) 15:26, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Please don't break up other editors' text by answering in the middle of it.

No, I don't want you to ask me before you do anything - I'm not adopting you. Your user page says that you are in your early twenties, and that is quite old enough for you to be making your own decisions. What I want you to do is not be deceptive, disruptive, annoying or otherwise edit uncollaboratively. You should, by now, be able to follow policy and edit productively. If you can't, then read WP:CIR. Stand on your own two feet, but edit responsibly - that's all you need to do. If you can't do that then you shouldn't be here. -- Begoon 15:41, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

• OK thanks Sir, I'm happy that you're understanding person, that always improve me, by corrections, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiziesan (talk • contribs) 15:45, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

  Learn how to WP:INDENT and WP:SIGN your posts. Not doing so is inconsiderate to other editors. Just to be clear on what I said above - if cleaning up the mess you make continues to take up large amounts of the time of volunteer editors who have better things to do then you will not be allowed to continue editing here. Understand that basic fact and keep it in mind at all times. -- Begoon 15:52, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

• OK sir, I was thinking may be since talking with quick replies, I shouldn't sign, (Wiziesan (talk))

You should sign with ~~~~. At the moment you are using ~~~, which doesn't date your comments. ~~ OxonAlex - talk 17:04, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

October 2019

Please stop adding unsourced and improperly sourced content, particularly to articles about living people, as you did on Tatiana Manaois. This violates Wikipedia's policy on verifiability and our strict policies on biographies of living people. If you continue to do so, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.

• You've been told several times that user-generated/music streaming sites etc are NOT suitable sources for personal information in a WP:BLP. Don't continue to try to use them as such. Once you have been CLEARLY made aware of their unsuitability, persisting to try to use them is disruptive. You've been warned enough about this now. -- Begoon 06:06, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

• What about this, https://www.legit.ng/1223770-latest-tatiana-manaois-songs-2018-2019.html

Legit, Naij.com.ng Nigerian News is it OK, (Wiziesan (talk) 13:19, 20 October 2019 (UTC))

Just about ok. If you use it then format it correctly as a reference and use it properly inline to support specific content. Read WP:REFB. Remember, making a mess for others to clear up is no longer an option for you. -- Begoon 13:34, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

• OK Sir, thanks for process (Wiziesan (talk) 13:39, 20 October 2019 (UTC))

Mr User:Begoon, check it now if it good and OK(Wiziesan (talk) 15:42, 20 October 2019 (UTC))

No. It was close to incomprehensible in English, and the parts I could understand were not worth rewriting. I really am coming to the conclusion that you just don't have the English language skill required to make acceptable contributions to the English wikipedia. Why don't you consider contributing to a wikipedia which is written in your own language, because it really isn't working out for you here... You're not going to be able to create a notable article by contributing this level of prose - you might be able to add a few small edits to some articles, but the chances are that somebody else is going to have to correct everything you write, and that really isn't sustainable, or fair. -- Begoon 15:48, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

• But official language, in my Country Nigeria, is English The British English, and learnt in school, and we speak to each other in English in my Country, officially you can't compare a White Man English to Africans region English Speaking, (Wiziesan (talk) 16:05, 20 October 2019 (UTC))

Well, I'm afraid that doesn't change the fact that the English you use here is extremely difficult to understand, full of grammatical errors and very far below the quality required in our articles. There are at least ten English errors in the post of yours that I'm replying to, in just one sentence (I use the term sentence loosely here). I'm sorry if it's a disappointment to you to discover that your written English is not up to standard - but honestly, it isn't. -- Begoon 16:18, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

• Here:
• But the official language, in my Ccountry Nigeria, is English; The British English, and learnt in school, and we speak to each other in English in my Ccountry, officially you can't compare a Wwhite Mman's English to African's region English Sspeaking,.
• And that's before we even arrive at the fact that the sentence, as a whole, is again extremely difficult to understand - the second half in particular makes a point I struggle to understand or see the relevance of.
• Do you really think that it's fair or sustainable that every time you add a sentence to the encyclopedia a volunteer editor will have to devote time they could profitably be using elsewhere to make every correction I've marked in the short sentence above, just to bring the grammar up to scratch - before even considering the fact that the sentence itself will need completely rewriting in order to make proper sense? -- Begoon 16:32, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

• OK i see it

Blerf

• How can you help me in this page that I create, Blerf
• You put some tags

(More citation needed), (multiple issue), to the page Blerf

• I have some source from Google, about five, which are reliable and independent for the page Blerf
• This are the sources
• This is the page official site, and about the site

https://blerf.org/index.php/about-blerf/ Blerf

• https://books.google.com.ng/books?id=kBdlAAAAMAAJ&q=%22Blerf%22+-wikipedia&dq=%22Blerf%22+-wikipedia&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiMmtaVtKvlAhWGLlAKHeeGDKMQ6AEwB3oECAQQAQ Google Books
• https://books.google.com.ng/books?id=A-VVDwAAQBAJ&dq=%22Blerf%22+-wikipedia&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiMmtaVtKvlAhWGLlAKHeeGDKMQ6AEwAnoECAkQAQ Google Books
• https://books.google.com.ng/books?id=n-QkAQAAMAAJ&dq=%22Blerf%22+-wikipedia&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiMmtaVtKvlAhWGLlAKHeeGDKMQ6AEwA3oECAgQAQ Google Books
• https://books.google.com.ng/books?id=x6Q-AQAAIAAJ&q=%22Blerf%22+-wikipedia&dq=%22Blerf%22+-wikipedia&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiMmtaVtKvlAhWGLlAKHeeGDKMQ6AEwBHoECAAQAQ Google Books
• https://www.premiumtimesng.com/features-and-interviews/354888-interview-i-sold-idea-of-presidential-library-to-obasanjo-nyaknno-osso.html P.M. News, Prime News Nigeria
• I know this sources are OK, so if you can help me please Wiziesan talk 19:51, 20 October 2019 (UTC))

None of the google books links seem to lead me anywhere except some titles of some books, so I'm not sure what part of any of those books you might think is suitable to support some article content, or what that article content would be. The last link is to an interview with the guy who started the site - that might be suitable to confirm that he started the site, and what its intentions are, but it's a WP:PRIMARY source to that degree. What's needed are independent third party sources discussing the site and its notability.

But really, that's all besides the point - above you say (unindented and unsigned again) "Ok i see it". But you don't "see it" do you? Assuming you can find some decent sources or clarify the ones above, who is going to write the content? I asked you before to read WP:CIR - now I'm telling you to read it - slowly, carefully, as many times as you need to until you really understand it. I'm sorry, but, in my opinion, you do not have the competence required to edit the English wikipedia, and it is unfair to expect other volunteer editors to continue cleaning up after you or writing your content for you. As I said above, making some small suggestions for edits to existing articles on talk pages might work, but trying to write entire new, notable articles as you have been seems way outside what you are capable of, and it's become disruptive and time-consuming to manage your attempts. -- Begoon 01:55, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

• So I should just forget about the page Blerf, I thought the primary sources, https://blerf.org, would make some sense, since the primary sources https://blerf.org/index.php/about-blerf/ have about itself, but any way no problem, since I have read the WP:CIR and WP:PRIMARY, may be talk page discussion would be easier as you said Wiziesan (talk) 11:22, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Too hasty

Maybe worth a read: WP:Don't template the regulars. Abductive (reasoning) 08:58, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

...and when you've finished that, read Wikipedia:Tag bombing. You've not even shown that you're capable of producing any acceptable content yourself yet, so what makes you think your recent contributions wandering around tagging other articles is something you're qualified to do? To round off the reading session, you should probably see WP:POINT, since reacting to having your own contributions tagged by looking for other stuff to tag as 'retaliation' is not a good look, particularly when your judgement in such matters has been shown to be so undeveloped and lacking.

Also, stop putting funny little, semi-literate one line "warnings/welcomes" on new user pages. There are acceptable ways to welcome new users, but it's generally expected that the welcomer would be someone who can provide help to the new editor should they need or ask for it - and, frankly, you simply would not be able to do that competently. -- Begoon 09:42, 27 October 2019 (UTC)