User talk:Wugapodes/Archive 24
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Question from CT55555 on Uranium mining in the Bancroft area (01:00, 21 December 2021)
Hi, I'm a bit lost. I've been working on this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium_mining_in_the_Bancroft_area and someone recently pointed out that I rely too heavily on quotes and the tag directed me to Wikisource, someone there suggested I use Commons and so I did so, having just uploaded the document that I quote too much there (it's a Canadian government publication, in the public domain, I verified). I just don't know what it the next step to satisfy the guidance here, is it to share an image of the page I quote, rather than quote? For what it's worth, the actual quote is just a letter that some guy wrote and therefore is absolutely not copyright, alone or as part of this document.
Thanks in advance, CT55555 (talk) 01:00, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hi CT55555, good questions, and I'm glad you're learning about our other projects as well! The goal of Wikipedia is largely to summarize what sources say rather than quote them directly or extensively. In general, it's better for you to write information in your own words and cite the source that backs up the claim. An important thing to note is that letters can be subject to copyright. I'm unfamiliar with Canadian copyright law, but if it's similar to US law, we assume copyright on the letter exists unless it was produced by a government official as part of their work duties. If you spend some time summarizing the quotes into original writing though, I think the article will be much improved. Let me know if you need other help! — Wug·a·po·des 22:26, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Holiday greetings (2021)
Wugapodes,
I sincerely hope your holiday season goes well this year especially with what we went through last year. I'm optimistic that 2022 will be a better year for all of us: both in real life and on Wikipedia. Wishing you the best from, Interstellarity (talk) 19:02, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Interstellarity: And the best to you too! I'm hopeful as well, and wanted to share this poem excerpt with you in that spirit. Happy holiday! — Wug·a·po·des 22:41, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
What future bliss, He gives not thee to know,
But gives that hope to be thy blessing now.
Hope springs eternal in the human breast— Alexander Pope (1891), Essay on Man
AN comment
I've just seen a reply you made to me at AN. The personalised comment I'm glad you spend the holiday season pouring over your watchlist
is unbecoming. You have no idea what holidays I do and do not celebrate. Please don't make such comments towards me in the future. — Bilorv (talk) 09:06, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Bilorv: Thank you for bringing this up with me, and I'm sorry that I did not appreciate how offensive it would come off. I will be more considerate in the future. For what it's worth, I am sincerely glad that you get to spend this season as you like, whatever your seasonal traditions, and in my head I imagined a more cordial tone. Reading it back now though, I can see how it reads as anything but cordial, and I'm sorry that I did not realize that sooner. Would you like me to revise the comment by striking or removing it? I know that editing it could paradoxically bring more attention which you may not want, and I'd rather not make things worse, so if you have a preference let me know. — Wug·a·po·des 20:52, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the polite reply. :) The acknowledgement is enough and I don't desire the comment to be struck/removed. — Bilorv (talk) 21:12, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
Kudos to both for the nondrama and AGF. —valereee (talk) 21:28, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
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RFA 2021 Completed
The 2021 re-examination of RFA has been completed. 23 (plus 2 variants) ideas were proposed. Over 200 editors participated in this final phase. Three changes gained consensus and two proposals were identified by the closers as having the potential to gain consensus with some further discussion and iteration. Thanks to all who helped to close the discussion, and in particular Primefac, Lee Vilenski, and Ymblanter for closing the most difficult conversations and for TonyBallioni for closing the review of one of the closes.
The following proposals gained consensus and have all been implemented:
- Revision of standard question 1 to
Why are you interested in becoming an administrator?
Special thanks to xaosflux for help with implementation. - A new process, Administrative Action Review (XRV) designed to review if an editor's specific use of an advanced permission, including the admin tools, is consistent with policy in a process similar to that of deletion review and move review. Thanks to all the editors who contributed (and are continuing to contribute) to the discussion of how to implement this proposal.
- Removal of autopatrol from the administrator's toolkit. Special thanks to Wugapodes and Seddon for their help with implementation.
The following proposals were identified by the closers as having the potential to gain consensus with some further discussion and iteration:
- An option for people to run for temporary adminship (proposal, discussion, & close)
- An optional election process (proposal & discussion and close review & re-close)
Editors who wish to discuss these ideas or other ideas on how to try to address any of the six issues identified during phase 1 for which no proposal gained are encouraged to do so at RFA's talk page or an appropriate village pump.
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01:47, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
Message regarding Capricorn from Bison X
Is there some way Template:R template index can be included in the menu? That way I can click on an "R" to make sure I'm using the right one. Rgrds. --Bison X (talk) 17:17, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Bison X: Unlikely. The menu is created after the wikitext is parsed, so including a template like that would be difficult. It's a good idea though, and if I had more time one of my longer term goals would be figuring out some kind of preview or hover text that gives information on how the templates are supposed to be used. For now it seems the best options are learning the templates or trial-and-error. — Wug·a·po·des 06:58, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
hi there!
Hey, Wugapodes! re: moving the SOHA, would WugBot have been updated to support that? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 02:03, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hi theleekycauldron, ArbCom results hit right when I was planning on making the edits so between the committee transition and winter holidays this unfortunately has gotten delayed. WugBot currently uses the SOHA as its termination condition, so moving the section requires reworking its internal logic. Barring any more surprises, I should be able to program and test it next weekend. — Wug·a·po·des 06:43, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
- sounds good—thanks so much! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 07:09, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
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Happy new year! - Today I show yesterday's snow (if you click on "songs") and today's music in memory of Jerome Kohl, a friend --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:14, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
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A oauth_consumervariable has been added to the AbuseFilter to enable identifying changes made by specific tools. [1]- Gadgets are now able to directly include JSON pages. This means some gadgets can now be configured by administrators without needing the interface administrator permission, such as with the Geonotice gadget. [2]
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Paid voting / commenting plan followup
I've given some more thought to User_talk:Wugapodes/Archive_23#Paid_voting_/_commenting_plan. I think the easiest things to implement would be:
- 1. A partnership between the WMF and one or more freelancing sites. The freelancing site would regulate WMF rules on the freelancers and employers. In return, they would get a page on wikipedia proper. The sole purpose of the project would be paid translation of content from one language encyclopedia to another. The freelancing website would ban other types of employment related to wikipedia. Such a program would hopefully lure paid commenters/voters to the partner freelancing site due to its larger volume of work. This program might be controversial for enwiki, so maybe it could be started first on another language encyclopedia. I imagine many of the African and Asian language wikipedias would readily accept such a program. Then if it seems to work for them, enwiki can deploy a similar system.
- 2. Instead of #1, a barter system on the reward board, where hours of translation can be bartered between languages. No token system would be used, rather it would be something like, "One hour of English to Spanish in return for one hour of Spanish to English". Offers could be for new translation work, for cleaning up machine translates, or proofing translations done with limited skill. A section of the reward board could be devoted to classified ads for barter. Syntax tutoring in exchange for translating would also be allowed.
- 3. This would be proposal #2, but allowing either live chat or skype for people using the program. Synchronous communication lowers the difficulty barrier when working with google translate-dependent discussions.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 02:57, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Epiphyllumlover: These are interesting ideas, and I'm glad you've given more thought to them. For #1 I would recommend reaching out to someone on the Community Resources team as well as some smaller wikis to find out what communities might be interested in this kind of project. — Wug·a·po·des 01:37, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
- I suppose the community resources personnel would be able to help with reaching out to smaller wikis to gauge interest.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 01:44, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
Question from Processdcp (00:11, 15 January 2022)
I am signing up to update a posting on Charles J. Connick, a stained glass artist, who's windows are installed in our church in Winthrop, MA. Our installation is missing from the article. --Processdcp (talk) 00:11, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
- Hi @Processdcp:, and welcome! I'm glad you're interested in improving the encyclopedia. Before you add information to an article, you should make sure that you have a reliable, published source which supports the claim you are adding. We have no way of verifying identities or expertise, so claims need to be supported by citations that anyone can use to verify the information. For help on citing sources, you can read our help article on referencing. If you are employed by the church, you should also read our policy on conflicts of interest. Let me know if you have other questions, and happy editing! — Wug·a·po·des 01:03, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
Question from Shahin jan Afghan (16:13, 15 January 2022)
why I can not save Wikipedia in my home page?! --Shahin jan Afghan (talk) 16:13, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
WugBot down?
Wugapodes, WugBot last ran on the DYK Nominations and Approved pages at 11:00 UTC. There's at least one nomination that has been ticked since then, and it was before noon UTC, so the bot's been down for a while. I hope you can get this fixed soon. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:28, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: I just ran it manually and it worked. Looking in the error logs, I think something might have gone wrong with the pywikibot backend. I'll keep an eye on it to try and figure out what's going on. — Wug·a·po·des 02:24, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
- Can you please also do a manual run of the GAN Report? It didn't run 90 minutes ago at 01:00 UTC. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:30, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
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- When using WikiEditor (also known as the 2010 wikitext editor), people will now see a warning if they link to disambiguation pages. If you click "Review link" in the warning, it will ask you to correct the link to a more specific term. You can read more information about this completed 2021 Community Wishlist item.
- You can automatically subscribe to all of the talk page discussions that you start or comment in using DiscussionTools. You will receive notifications when another editor replies. This is available at most wikis. Go to your Preferences and turn on "Automatically subscribe to topics". [9]
- When asked to create a new page or talk page section, input fields can be "preloaded" with some text. This feature is now limited to wikitext pages. This is so users can't be tricked into making malicious edits. There is a discussion about if this feature should be re-enabled for some content types.
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19:54, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
Question from 7hamiltox (16:24, 20 January 2022)
cheese balls are das besta --7hamiltox (talk) 16:24, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
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21:37, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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| For closing the RFC on the structure of Mass Killings Under Communist Regimes. (In particular, for writing a two-part explanation of the close that both was consistent with policies and guidelines and summarized what the editors said.) Robert McClenon (talk) 14:05, 24 January 2022 (UTC) |
- Thanks Robert McClenon, happy to help. I've been watching the page since you requested more eyes a few months ago, and your dispute resolution has been impressive. Having read the RfC, I'm hopeful about a path forward, and I don't think that would have happened without your work. Let me know if there's any way I can help out in the future. — Wug·a·po·des 01:54, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
Question from MrMeAndMrMe (22:44, 24 January 2022)
Hello, Wugapodes. The category Women in television should be a parent of Women television journalists. In an attempt to do this, I added Women in television in the category section of the Women television journalists. Apparently I have done this wrong because nothing appears in Women in television as a subcategory. Could you please inform me the proper procudure in doing this as I can not find any Wiki help pages informing me on how to do this. --MrMeAndMrMeContributions 22:44, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
- @MrMeAndMrMe: It looks like you did it right; I see women TV journalists as a subcategory of Woman in TV. In my experience, it can take a few minutes before changes to categories appear and sometimes only after purging the page. Try those out and if let me know if something still looks wrong. — Wug·a·po·des 01:39, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
Here's an award
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Discretionary sanctions topic area changes
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The topics proposed for revocation are:
- Senkaku islands
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- India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan
- Armenia/Azerbaijan
Additionally any Article probation topics not already revoked are proposed for revocation.
Community feedback is invited and welcome at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Motions. --Barkeep49 (talk) 16:59, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
Discretionary sanctions topic area changes
In a process that began last year with WP:DS2021, the Arbitration Committee is evaluating Discretionary Sanctions (DS) in order to improve it. A larger package of reforms is slated for sometime this year. From the work done so far, it became clear a number of areas may no longer need DS or that some DS areas may be overly broad.
The topics proposed for revocation are:
- Senkaku islands
- Waldorf education
- Ancient Egyptian race controversy
- Scientology
- Landmark worldwide
The topics proposed for a rewording of what is covered under DS are:
- India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan
- Armenia/Azerbaijan
Additionally any Article probation topics not already revoked are proposed for revocation.
Community feedback is invited and welcome at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Motions. --Barkeep49 (talk) 04:36, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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17:41, 31 January 2022 (UTC)