Yutaka Hayauchi

August 2024

Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. This is just a note to let you know that I've moved the draft that you were working on to Draft:Shin Heike Monogatari (novel). This has been done because the Draft namespace is the preferred location for Articles for Creation submissions. Please feel free to continue to work on it there. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to ask me on my talk page. Thank you. Bobby Cohn (talk) 16:41, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Hey Yutaka Hayauchi, as a part of my review of your draft article, I'm trying to assess the depth of the coverage to assess notability, but your citation style seems to be very repetive and may benefit from using a {{sfn}} style citation. Would you mind if I converted your citations? Many thanks, Bobby Cohn (talk) 16:43, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Dear Bobby, I would appreciate your suggestion. I will look at your results and learn from your experiences. Yutaka Hayauchi (talk) 03:16, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much for that. I am a very new comer in the english Wiki. Yutaka Hayauchi (talk) 03:14, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

@Bobby Cohn: I looked at the citation style template you pointed out. It may be difficult to build the references by that style. Shin Heike Monogatari is a huge novel. In the original there are 16 or 20 depending of the publisher. There are no english translations, therefore, I made citations to the German books (total 21 volumes). I put the references to volume, pages, year of printing, while the author, the publisher, the translator are the same.

Your submission at Articles for creation: Shin Heike Monogatari (novel) (September 12)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by OhHaiMark were: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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OhHaiMark (talk) 16:15, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Yutaka Hayauchi! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! OhHaiMark (talk) 16:15, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello, I need help understanding how to deal with the subject in the English-speaking Wiki community. The title Shin Heike Monogatari (novel) in Wikipedia currently exists in Japanese, German, and French. You will find the title as a movie version in English, too. Three movies, however, cover only a part of the whole story. That is not the issue here. Another critical point is that the literature community needs clarification on the coexistence of the old Japanese-written novel Heike Monogatari, the Tale of the Heike. One has dedicated the English Wiki to this subject. But one must not mix up both novels. So, I wrote my article about Shin Heike Monogatari. If you google Shin Heike Monogatari, you can't find any description or reliable secondary sources in English. That means for the English community, this title is brand new. It looks different in the Japanese community. There are high-level literature critics there. My question is how to proceed here for me. Do English readers renounce following the topic? That is questionable because many people are interested in my English translations, published recently. I can offer the English Wikipedia to supplement my article with further literary discussions from Japanese. Is that what Wike wants? Otherwise, I need to learn about how to publish this article. Yutaka Yutaka Hayauchi (talk) 04:19, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

The other language versions of Wikipedia have separate notability guidelines, so something that may be in the Japanese Wikipedia won't be notable enough for here. The reason why I declined it was because practically all the sources were primary, with many sources being related to him in some way. If you can trim off those parts, I'll accept it. Also OhHaiMark (talk) 16:42, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

I think about what you wrote 'timming off all primary sources and make a new draft in Draft:Shin Heike Monogatari (novel). Yutaka Hayauchi (talk) 16:22, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello, OhHaiMark. I understood your reasons for not accepting my contribution to The New Tale of Taira as two issues: my noncompliance with inline citations and my failure to show the book's notability.

Inline citations:

I learned the Wiki guidelines that references can be from other languages without translation. That is encouraging to me. I will change the footnotes to the Japanese sources. I will learn more about the shortened citation technique sfn and cite. I will additionally incorporate the secondary sources of a Japanese literature scientist and university professor for Japanese literature who published a comprehensive review of the novel.

Notability:

I also learned from Wikipedia guidelines that a profound novelist, the books of whom I want to justify the notability, is a good argument. Eiji Yoshikawa is one of the greatest writers of Japan, with many world-known novels and several literature praises. The Japanese literature and culture societies have given Shin Heike Monogatari one of the most significant awards. I did not mention that because Wikipedia has dedicated Eiji Yoshikawa in another article I connected to my contribution. Nevertheless, my revised article will present some facts about such notability elements.

I hope my revision which takes a little time find your acceptance.

Yutaka Hayauchi Yutaka Hayauchi (talk) 14:27, 18 September 2024 (UTC)