Zebrazach20062

How do I get to the TeaHouse/Questions page on mobile devices besides going here to the welcome page and clicking on it I just found out that clicking on the go to the bottom of the tea page doesn't work on mobile for some reason (sorry for so many edit) and are there any plans on trying to make it so Mobile Wikipedians can access the same things Like adding a language to a Page Or allowing us to go to preferences easier? Zebrazach20062 (talk) 17:25, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Zebrazach20062,

1. You could bookmark WP:TH in your web browser.

2. This may be due to it being mobile. Mobile is not the best system, you'll find a desktop view link at the bottom of the screen.

3. Yes, they are plans to improve how mobile works. See, this page on our sister site

RhinosF1(chat)(status)(contribs) 17:47, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

@RhinosF1: thanks for responding quickly

one more quesion if I have another question do I need to do the help thing again or do I just ping you?Zebrazach20062 (talk) 17:54, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

You can just ping me. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 17:56, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

But it may be quicker to use help me again as Im not always around. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 18:02, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

ok thanks again hopefully the tea house helps me with my other issue I was having Zebrazach20062 (talk) 18:07, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

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Help thing

I'm so sorry if this is spamming you helpers I'm just putting the help command down wrong lol The thing I need help with is that I accidentally paragraphed a T and isolated itself from the rest of the paragraph. Here is the link to it and my issue is above the Format Tab https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:RPG_Limit_Break My issue is that when I try to get the "he" and the "T" back together it works but it moves my typing indicator(I'm on mobile so I can't use the delete button only the backspace) to the space before the T which I don't mind until I look at what will be there when I publish it and it shows the T as the only thing there. Sorry, this is so long I just wanted everything to be out there. And also what should I do? Zebrazach20062 (talk) 22:15, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

I think I fixed the problem you had in the draft. I'm not familiar with mobile editing, and I'm not sure if you ran into a software problem or if you just made a random (and common) mistake as a new editor. Basically, it looks like you cut&pasted the first paragraph so that it was mostly above the infobox, and the VisualEdtor might have become dysfunctional because it may have seen the infobox as fused into that paragraph. The VisualEditor can behave badly around infoboxes or other templates. The Wikimedia Foundation is eager to promote use of VisualEditor, but most experienced contributors consider the standard wikitext editor to be the best tool for the job. The VisualEditor can make it difficult to understand what's actually going on in the page, and therefore difficult to fix issues.

On a more general point, if you want your draft article to be accepted, you will need to show that there are multiple independent Reliable Sources with significant coverage of the RPG Limit Break event. This means things like newspaper coverage, magazine coverage, books, reputable online sites with a news/magazine style and editorial oversight. We call this Notability - Wikipedia only accepts articles on topics that have already obtained significant reporting and coverage by Reliable Sources. Wikipedia then summarizes what those sources have written on the subject. If you already have such sources lined up, great. If you haven't found such sources yet then you need to go search for some. If they do exist then you need to add them as references for the article. If those kinds of reference sources don't exist then the draft won't get accepted&promoted to article status. I just did a quick GoogleNews search, and it looks like this Kotaku article is probably one acceptable source, but I'm not sure what other acceptable sources are out there.

Feel free to continue using the help-me template, or visit the Teahouse, or Help desk, or ping me or RhinosF1. Pinging an individual editor can have an unpredictable response times, but does work best when there's some ongoing topic to address. Helper-editors are generally happy to keep offering help. Sorry I'm not more familiar with any mobile-specific issues you may be having. Good luck. Alsee (talk) 23:50, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the help :D, its fine you don't know about mobile because it can be a train wreak some times XD, and I'm working on the article and it's slowly coming together thanks for the article! Zebrazach20062 (talk) 00:23, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

@Alsee: Would this prove that, the Forums is reliable since this is their official twitter with 7,000 followers and the twitter also links the discord with the same people that talk in the fourms? https://twitter.com/RPGLimitBreak/status/1076271731147452416?s=19

Also if a image is on twitter does it technically count as free use? Zebrazach20062 (talk) 18:42, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Copyright law has evolved to become an aggressively all-encompassing beast. Virtually everything is copyright restricted unless you have an explicit release for use, or if it's ridiculously old, or some other specific exemption applies. Twitter images are not free to use, unless copyright holder explicitly releases it under a usable licence. The legal doctrine of Fair use does allow the use of copyrighted content for some purposes, but the boundaries of Fair Use are extremely complicated. Wikipedia's educational and non-commercial nature gives us a relatively broad claim to Fair Use, however Wikipedia's policies are more restrictive than what Fair Use might permit anyway. Wikipedia policy is that non-free images may be used in articles if they comply with WP:Non-free content criteria. Basically, the image must be essential and irreplaceable for the specific article. For example it allow things such as album covers - in the article about the album, official logos - in the article for the organisation that logo represents, an image of a dead person - in that person's biography (if that person is living then some editor could credibly take a photo themselves and upload that).

Regarding the forum post as a source: I'd personally accept it as adequate for use, don't be surprised if it gets challenged if/when you want to promote the draft to an article, and even after that it may be disputed any time in the future. Looking at the ref in isolation, any forum ref looks like a classic junk-ref that should be immediately be rejected. After looking deeper it appears that puwexil is a LimitBreak organizer and the LimitBreak twitter account links to the post, which is less-than-ideal but probably good enough to show it's reliably official. But most people looking at the ref won't know any of that - they'll just see it as a random forum post. Or some editor might disagree that it's adequately established as official. If the ref gets challenged you'll have to tell them your case for why it's sufficiently Reliable. Alsee (talk) 10:41, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

@Alsee: been a while but my article I think is doing good, so would I contact for them to look at the article and if it fails how do I make it a Stub article because I've ran out of info to talk about, Thanks Zebrazach20062 (talk) 16:27, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

I made some assorted general edits to help, but I don't think you fully heard what I said about Notability: if you want your draft article to be accepted, you will need to show that there are multiple independent Reliable Sources with significant coverage of the RPG Limit Break event (and or coverage of the organization). This means things like newspaper coverage, magazine coverage, books, reputable online sites with a news/magazine style and editorial oversight. We call this Notability - Wikipedia only accepts articles on topics that have already obtained significant reporting and coverage by Reliable Sources.

The important point is that there is nothing a person or organization can directly do to make themselves Notable. You can't buy it, and it doesn't matter what someone says about themself. Notability is established when multiple independent Reliable sources consider a topic noteworthy enough that they write significant coverage about it.

• Citing things self-published by the LimitBreak people/organization is useful to verify the content is correct, but it counts zero for establishing Notability.
• All of the refs to their Twitch and Twitter and Youtube count for zero. It's self published.
• Refs to the SDA forums count for zero. It's self published.
• The ref to NAMI is not independent as they are receiving the money, so it technically counts for zero. However it may receive some goodwill when evaluating Notability.
• I'm not familiar with Twin Galaxies, but I have the impression it's closer to another social network than reputable independent reporting. I suspect it doesn't qualify as an independent or reliable source.

I did some searching. I didn't find much by way of high quality sources, but the ones below might be adequate. The gamer-news websites are questionable or marginal as Reliable Sources. I believe Kotaku is considered reputable. Some of them are too short to count for much, but even if it's just a date announcement it's better than citing it to self-published RPGLimitBreak pages.

• https://ekgaming.com/2018/05/14/rpg-limit-break-starts-annual-speedrunning-event/
• https://www.rpgsite.net/news/7155-rpg-limit-break-2018-will-air-may-13-until-may-19
• https://www.gamegrin.com/news/rpg-limit-break-raises-over-usd160000-for-national-alliance-on-mental-illness/
• In Italian, however I only glanced at this one. I'm not sure whether the cite qualifies as Reliable and I didn't really check the content either: https://www.isolaillyon.it/2017/06/09/rpg-limit-break-videogiocatori-di-ruolo-uniti-per-beneficenza.html
• Book Speedrunning: Interviews With the Quickest Gamers, not much info but at least it's a book and LimitBreak is mentioned on three pages: https://books.google.com/books?id=wtg5DwAAQBAJ&pg=PT259&lpg=PT259&dq=%22RPG+Limit+Break%22&source=bl&ots=uMfRDtit2T&sig=ACfU3U2cXZ3mALRF3VC57hA07fx4weLNaQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiqsvnsv9XhAhUhSN8KHSQmBNU4HhDoATANegQICBAB#v=onepage&q=%22RPG%20Limit%20Break%22&f=false
• https://compete.kotaku.com/tales-speedrunners-race-through-grand-epics-in-a-few-ho-1792746957
• May 2017 https://kotaku.com/watch-people-break-the-hell-out-of-classic-rpgs-1795507351
• May 2018 https://www.kotaku.co.uk/2018/05/14/rpg-limit-break-a-charity-speedrunning-event-is-currently-underway

It would really help if you can find more news coverage, especially if you can find actual paper-newspaper coverage, paper-magazine coverage, or radio/TV reporting. Once you've done your best adding refs to establish Notability, putting {{subst:submit}} at the top of the draft will put it on a list for review. Alsee (talk) 22:02, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

P.S. You might find interested/helpful people at WT:WikiProject Video games. They're probably also familiar with which gamer-news websites are/aren't generally accepted as Reliable Sources. Alsee (talk) 22:08, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

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I saw this section after I commented above. I'm going to remove the {{PD-textlogo}} from the image licencing section. The image contains significant graphical elements so it's not a pure textlogo. It can't be claimed as public domain. Wikipedia policy only allows us to keep a non-free image if it's used in a live article. (The article-draft doesn't count.) You basically have two paths forwards at this point:

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• If you manage to get the draft out as live article before the image is deleted you can just follow the WP:Non-free use rationale guideline. Just add the required licencing information to the file. The main issue is adding a few references which establish Notability.

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