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Do (administrative division)

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Unsourced stub for a word (Korean word for "province"); more suitable for Wiktionary (WP:NOTDICT). Propose redirect to Provinces of Korea. RachelTensions (talk) 02:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I’m happy with the proposed redirect, but you don’t need an AfD for a redirect, see WP:BRD. Mccapra (talk) 04:45, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would recommend withdrawing the AfD and redirecting. McYeee (talk) 06:17, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Hambone, California

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Non-notable, short-lived rail maintenance spot on an abandoned minor railroad, not a "community". A few references could be found: [1], [2], [3], but these appear to be amateur blogs and/or trivial mentions, not significant, secondary coverage in RS. Previous AfD returned no consensus, based mostly on the argument that documentation of the place exists; however, I would argue the coverage is not significant and not reliable. The place undoubtedly existed, but without coverage in RS, there is nothing we can say. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 01:25, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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A rail yard can certainly be a notable topic (I've written a number of such articles, one even made it to FA status) but it absolutely should not be treated like a populated place. A redirect to McCloud Railway appears to be the best option here in the absence of any evidence of significant coverage. I did some searches for "hambone yard" and "hambone rail yard" hoping to turn up something and came up empty-handed. For comparison, take a look at the plethora of results when I search for an actually notable rail yard. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 14:11, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gallery of passport stamps by country or territory

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Article that should've been a Wikimedia Commons gallery instead. An article about visa policy by country could be encyclopedic, and the footnotes on this article provide potentially useful material for that. However, the current article topic is functionally a list of pictures with little context, and would be better suited for Wikimedia Commons. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I am aware that there was a prior AfD on the topic eight years ago, but it did not address in-depth the possibility of transwiki-ing to Commons (possibly with a soft redirect here or a link at Passport stamps), which would keep its usefulness while having it in a more appropriate project. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:27, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thales, Indiana

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Again with the citation saying, "this is not a settlement": in this case the 1910 county history says it was a post office, and judging from the "house in the middle of nowhere" site, I see no reason to disagree. Mangoe (talk) 21:19, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - This place was known as "Hickory Grove" until 1895 [4]. It had a school [5], a post office, and general store [6]. I have been unable to find any source stating this was a populated place. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Norton, Indiana

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Appears to have been a rail point/station/PO. There's nothing there now and the 1910 county history doesn't mention it under either name. Mangoe (talk) 02:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete No information found. Appears to be just a road crossing of a railroad. Fails WP:GEOLAND. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 11:19, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete; I can't find any reference to this in old county maps or other records. ╠╣uw [talk] 13:05, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Sobat District

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Poorly sourced essay-like article. I tried sending this to draftspace, but it was moved immediately back to mainspace by the author. CycloneYoris ^talk! 06:26, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify. Valid topic for which there are reliable sources, but needs proper inline citations. Mccapra (talk) 07:45, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify for improvement per previous. There are good results for this topic on JSTOR and Google Scholar, but the article isn't mainspace-ready yet. Left guide (talk) 08:01, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Draftify: similar to this nom for the same editor, the article needs alot of copy editing especially for bold and capital letters which appears randomly through the text. Not to mention the lack of references and links to other articles. @Choldit, you may want to start by going though Wikipedia:Manual of Style, then submit the draft for approval. Do that for couple of articles before jumping to moving articles to the main space. But beyond that, great start and a very interesting topic. FuzzyMagma (talk) 12:23, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maltersville, Indiana

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Another case where the cited source argues against notability, for the passage in question reads in full, "This is a little place laid out by Mrs. Anna Barbara Malter, December 17, 1867. It has no postoffice, and is little more than the crossing of two public highways." And indeed there is a cement plant a little ways off in one direction, and a plumbing house's showroom in another, and the latter claims to be in Jasper. THis seems to be a place that just never really amounted to anything. Mangoe (talk) 03:54, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as WP:NPLACE states "Populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable" but per WP:NPLACE and WP:GNIS the GNIS reference doesn't count as legal recognition and as it's unincorporated I don't think there's any other recognition (open to being corrected here by someone more familiar with the US). Thus it falls back onto WP:GNG and I can't find anything to meet that - the book in reflist only has a passing reference of it, being more about Jasper and other places + can't find anything else. Molecular Pilot 08:52, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Clearly nonexistent place, and GNIS counts for neither notability nor legal recognition. It thus fails the incredibly low bar of WP:GEOLAND. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 21:20, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Walpole (CDP), Massachusetts

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A user who has only edited about this article states that there is no such census-designated place because a government guideline does no allow one to be within an incorporated place; the guideline does exist. (They then edited the article to say that it is not a CDP.) In the talk page, they wanted to proposed it be deleted, but didn't know how, so I am doing it for them. However, there is a US Census Bureau entry for Walpole CDP, Massaschusetts. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:29, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Withdraw nomination. There is also a Walpole (CDP), New Hampshire within Walpole, New Hampshire, so obviously the guideline means nothing or is being misinterpreted. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:39, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Because the entirety of most northeastern states is incorporated, the census doesn't see these towns the same way as towns in other states, so they still allow CDPs within them to identify population centers. Lots of these same-named CDPs in all of these states. Though they do make me question whether we should really consider all CDPs automatically notable. Reywas92^Talk 04:12, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
merge with main article The reason for the CDP is that the legal town is much larger than the core settlement town part of Walpole. This can all be explained better in the main article instead of taking it out of context as it is now. CDPs aren't really notable independently of the communities they act as statistical proxies for. I expect the NH example ought to receive the same treatment. Mangoe (talk) 04:17, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Inalugartuut

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No refs on the page for more than 4 years. I'm not seeing anything at all in searches, can't even WP:V that this is a thing, never mind that it meets the notability criteria JMWt (talk) 10:59, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I've found Inâluartût and Inalugartût Iluat. This might be a transliteration issue. Secretlondon (talk) 12:19, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Although there's nothing I would want to use as a source. Secretlondon (talk) 12:26, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The German wiki has a disambiguation page with two redlinks for Inalugartuut (mountain) and Inalugartuut Iluat (bay). OpenStreetMap has an entry for the bay, sourced to the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency (United States). The bay is at 73°37′11″N 55°46′33″W / 73.619710°N 55.775700°W, and is surrounded by rugged terrain. Geonames has Inâluartût (peninsula) just north of the bay at 73°39′N 55°54′W / 73.65°N 55.9°W. The Cebuano wiki has a robot-generated page for Inâluartût, referencing Geonames. None of this establishes notability even in the weakest WP:NGEO sense. I suppose it could be merged into a list entry in a parent, giving the coords, but I can't see a suitable parent. Nutaarmiut is the nearest settlement, but has nothing to do with the mountain / bay / peninsula. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:50, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete due to its limited content and lack of substantial sources establishing notability. --Jiaoriballisse (talk) 13:32, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jaap-se-Hoogte

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No refs on the page for many years. I see brief mentions but not the substantial coverage in independent RS needed to reach the notability standards for inclusion JMWt (talk) 10:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - There are minimal sources on the internet, but none of those sources are convincing.

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Calder Hill

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Fails WP:NATFEAT. "Named natural features are often notable, provided information beyond statistics and coordinates is known to exist. [...] If a Wikipedia article cannot be developed using known sources, information on the feature can instead be included in a more general article on local geography. For example, a river island with no information available except name and location should probably be described in an article on the river". The rather small hill seems to be of little significance, with no hope of expanding it to an encyclopedic article. Geschichte (talk) 20:59, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sports in Kilgore

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Does not meet WP:GNG or WP:SIGCOV. Subject is of a very small town. Only sources are primary. All relevant information is already in Kilgore, Texas -1ctinus📝🗨 20:42, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Kilgore, Texas#Sports. Agree with nom that this doesn't appear to be a notable standalone topic; I searched for sources and couldn't find anything meaningful to establish notability. Left guide (talk) 04:27, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
delete, information is already in the main article. Frietjes (talk) 15:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify - The references are all league information pages being hosted by a web hosting provider. They are not independent, and do not meet Wikipedia's standards of reliability because they are content provided by the web hosting customer, the league.

Reference Number	Reference	Comments	Independent	Significant	Reliable	Secondary
1	d2o2figo6ddd0g.cloudfront.net	A web host of information by the league	No, hosted for the league	Yes	No, user-supplied content.	No
2	d2o2figo6ddd0g.cloudfront.net	A web host of information by the league	No, hosted for the league	Yes	No, user-supplied content.	No
3	d2o2figo6ddd0g.cloudfront.net	A web host of information by the league	No, hosted for the league	Yes	No, user-supplied content.	No
4	d2o2figo6ddd0g.cloudfront.net	A web host of information by the league	No, hosted for the league	Yes	No, user-supplied content.	No

Reliable independent sources may exist, but are not in this article, so it is reasonable to move the article into draft space and allow the originator time to find sources (but not reasonable to leave the article in article space while reliable sources are lacking). Robert McClenon (talk) 15:42, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Kilgore, Texas#Sports as a sensible WP:ATD, which is better than deletion or draftspace (which would be my least preferred option, as there is now evidence a notable article could be created from a draft). Joseph2302 (talk) 15:53, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Balobanian

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No refs on the page for a long time. I'm not seeing RS that show WP:V or notability, but I don't speak the relevant languages. A redirect to Sarai Alamgir might be suitable if the details can be verified, although this place is not mentioned at the target as far as I can tell. JMWt (talk) 21:04, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - fwiw this page was nom for a speedy more than a decade ago. The nom was removed without improvement and no refs have ever been added. JMWt (talk) 21:09, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Sarai Alamgir#Villages. I have moved one line of this page there.--Gul Butt (talk) 21:09, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Haven Village

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This does not appear to be a notable place. It is not marked on Ordnance Survey mapping or included in List of United Kingdom locations: Has-Hd. Considering the references:

"Post office directory": the only hit for "haven village" appears to be the phrase "Skegness is a small haven, village ...": a red herring
Newcomb: confirms that "Haven Village" is a postal address but does no more
Hennessy: "lives in Haven Village, Boston, which is a block of flats run by Encore Estate Management."
Quadrant: survey is for "Haven Village ltd." - suburbs are not companies
Archaeological: confirms Haven Village as a location, former warehouse site and mentions "groundworks associated with a residential development at Haven Village"

Nothing here suggests that HV is a "suburb" of Boston. The encyclopedia does not need an article on every housing development. PamD 12:25, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I have mentioned this AfD at Talk:Boston, Lincolnshire#Boston-related AfD to draw it to the attention of editors interested in Boston. PamD 12:30, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete for the moment. The street-map and the Quadrant source make it clear what this is: a housing-development that includes both small houses and blocks of flats over 15 acres of Boston. Not an insignificant development, but not a suburb, just a run-of-the-mill development. In consequence, our article has nothing much to say, is misleading in the little it does say, and relies on an unhealthy mix of not-very-secondary sources (developers, local authorities) and trivia (over-filled bins). Elemimele (talk) 14:21, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - appears to be a development with little else to show it has notability. This might change in time but at present it doesn't appear to meet the notability standards here. JMWt (talk) 16:21, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kavaloi

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No refs on the page for many years. I'm not seeing refs to add which count towards notability but if be interested if anyone can suggest anything else JMWt (talk) 18:57, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Lefki, Lasithi. The islets are mentioned as having archaeological significance in this book, Emilia Oddo and Konstantinos Chalikias, South by Southeast: The History and Archaeology of Southeast Crete from Myrtos to Kato Zakros (2022), p. 135. BD2412 T 19:47, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge as suggested. Bearian (talk) 04:52, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stockport, Indiana

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Indications are that this was a railroad station and not a settlement. Mangoe (talk) 11:59, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. This one probably merits retention since it seems to have been a small but real town in years past, as noted in county maps and plat books from 1903,1904,1908, 1938, etc. There’s also a fair amount of newspaper coverage from the early 20th century, like this interesting tidbit from the Muncie Evening Press on 26 October 1900:
"Stockport, a little town six miles northwest of Muncie, which since yesterday has been located on the C., I. & E. road, has other claims to distinction than that being a railroad town. It is the home of William McKinley, cousin to the president, who bears the same name..."
The town seems to have had at least a Baptist church, a school, a general store (robbed repeatedly [7][8]), and a railway station[9], with other articles noting things like unrest over a local killing[10] and other lesser events. Whenever time permits I'd be happy to incorporate some of these pieces into the article. ╠╣uw [talk] 15:34, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Per the sourcing listings above on this nomination. — Maile (talk) 18:40, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per potential references above. What indications are referred to in the nomination? Has a Wikipedia:BEFORE been conducted? Djflem (talk) 16:49, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Różanna, Bydgoszcz County

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This article was created by the now long-inactive Kotbot. No equivalent article exists on the Polish wikipedia. Kiwipete (talk) 21:22, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reason:

I am also nominating the following article for deletion. This article was also created by Kotbot. There is an equivalent article on the Polish wikipedia, but it seems to indicate that this town/village no longer exists:

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Keep per WP:NPLACE that says "Populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable, even if their population is very low" - these are all populated, legally recognised places. Even if the bot is now not active, those pages have been edited by humans and are genuinely notable per guideline. Molecular Pilot 22:54, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Except for Łukaszewo, Inowrocław County which should be deleted as it's no longer a "legally recognised" place. I think you should open a seperate AfD for this one as it actually has merit for deletion that's different from the others in this AfD. Molecular Pilot 22:57, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I guess that is the question - are these places "legally recognised places"? What source do you have? I have browsed to this TERYT website, clicked the "Przeglądanie" icon, expanded KUJAWSKO-POMORSKIE, grudziądzki and clicked Łasin (0406035). There is no mention of Boże Pole in the list of towns located in this gmina. Kiwipete (talk) 02:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See here: https://dane.gov.pl/pl/dataset/780,panstwowy-rejestr-nazw-geograficznych-prng/resource/30102/table that's the official polish Office of Geodesy and Cartography and also this offical list of postal numbers https://web.archive.org/web/20140222162405/https://www.poczta-polska.pl/hermes/uploads/2013/02/spispna.pdf. Różanna (the main subject of this AfD), as well as Kępa etc. appear in this list. Molecular Pilot 06:09, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MolecularPilot, none of the towns I've listed above appear in the spispna.pdf document that you refer to above. I've tried accessing the dane.gov.pl link, but the "Pobierz" button gives me an error "We can’t connect to the server at opendata.geoportal.gov.pl." so I'm not sure how you managed to open it, or verify the existence of these towns. Can you please clarify? Thanks, Kiwipete (talk) 08:47, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: a populated small village in Poland that does have a wikipedia article in Polish, it just wasn't properly linked pl:Różanna (powiat bydgoski). Object to the group nomination. I know these stubs aren't super helpful at this point, but at least they can direct someone to the correct Gmina and gmina seat, i don't see any value to deletion unless a place doesn't actually exist and was created in error.--Milowent • ^hasspoken 15:12, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Arguni (district)

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Subject does not meet GNG for not having significant coverage from independent, reliable source where by the sources talk about the subject in lenght and in depth and not passing mentioned. All social media, org, edu and gov sites are considered not reliable or independent and can NOT be used to contribute to meet GNG criteria. Cassiopeia talk 00:39, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Clearly passes WP:NPLACE. Noah ^💬 00:59, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

but the subject not having significant coverage from independent, reliable source where by the sources talk about the subject in lenght and in depth and not passing mentioned. All social media, org, edu and gov sites are considered not reliable or independent and can NOT be used to contribute to meet GNG criteria or NPLACE and in addition NPLACE does not supersede GNG. Cassiopeia talk 01:12, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable. This seems like an incredibly arbitrary AfD, there are hundreds of thousands of places that fail GNG but are included on Wikipedia because they pass NPLACE. Noah ^💬 02:07, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Again NPLACE does not supersede GNG and to pass either one they sources of significant coverage by independent, reliable sources (IRS) need to be provided for verification.. Articles about places that fails GNG and is in the main space is because no one/editor yet to AfD the articles and it is NOT because they are in main space means they pass GNG. Thousand of article that fail GNG or SNG are in Wikipedia and they always CAN be AfD if anyone nominate them in regardless how long the articles in main space Wikipedia. There might be other languages have IRS about the place which I dont know know those languages, but if anyone can find them then add them in the article and let me know.05:32, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Keep passes WP:NPLACE. Populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable. Quick google search can easily found multiple independent coverage of this district. Ckfasdf (talk) 21:53, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. It seems that, according to WP:NPLACE, GNG only matters in this evaluation if the article subject is not a legally recognized place. While gov sites might not establish notability, if they verify that this subject is legally recognized, then I think the editors arguing Keep have the stronger argument.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:30, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. It is an official local government area, and we routinely keep those even when, as in this case, they’re new (2010) and somewhat obscure. Not speaking Bahasa Indonesia is a hindrance with this but I did find a scholarly paper entitled “INTERNATIONAL SCALE INTEGRATED THEMATIC TOURISM DESTINATION DESIGN, KOKAS DISTRICT AND ARGUNI DISTRICT IN FAKFAK DISTRICT” , multiple references to it in this article, some coverage in thus study and will add other sources if I find them. Mccapra (talk) 08:14, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Medford, Indiana

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The county history cited calls it a rail station with a post office, which is what the maps show as well. There was no town here. Mangoe (talk) 20:20, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. A 1973 Delaware County, Indiana ordinance calls it the "Town of Medford", and there are a few scattered, mostly unreliable mentions of it, e.g. an obituary, "Barb attended a Seagoing Cowboys celebration in Medford, Indiana, during Heifer's 70th anniversary in 2014.", "Barth, a Medford, Indiana, manufacturer of recreation and commercial vehicles" (p. 42), 1979. Not much to go by, but apparently it is or was a community. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:56, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Per Clarityfiend's research above. Also, I did a copy and paste of the above to the article talk page - just in cases it passes here, and gets renominated at a later date. — Maile (talk) 01:33, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Although I have not found a reliable source saying "people lived here", I did find the town plat, and also came across obituaries and stuff like that. Google streetview shows a bunch of houses there too. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:28, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The issue with these zoning maps and plats is that what's on the ground bears no particular resemblance to the streets and lots they paint. The plat in particular is so wrong that I cannot determine whether it represents land north or south of the road. likewise, while the zoning ruling at least contains some photography, what has actually happened in the intervening years is that of the area north of the road, the wedge adjacent to the RR RoW has been consolidated into a single property, everything east of that has lapsed back into farmland.I gather the point of the zoning was the consolidation of that land into residential land.

The point here is that there's no doubt in all of this that someone wanted a town here, apparently to the point of setting it up as far as land use was concerned. The substantial discrepancies between the legal definitions and the reality on the ground, however, indicate that the town is a legal fiction that was never realized. The plat in particular is pretty damning, as there is no evidence that any of the streets shown was ever constructed. A few houses along the main road were built, and some sort of business (which presumably was where this Barth was in later years) was built next to the tracks, but that appears to be it. Mangoe (talk) 23:55, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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KEEP UzbukUdash (talk) 05:02, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

UzbukUdash, why? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:53, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep: This is a borderline case, but this place seems better-documented than most of these onetime rural post offices that made it into GNIS. If kept, the article needs to be rewritten, incorporating some of the sources listed above, and removing the "is an unincorporated community", implying the place currently has recognition as a community. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 11:14, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gates Corner, Indiana

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Another short-lived rural post office elevated to a settlement. There's nothing there and I find no mentions of it. Mangoe (talk) 12:00, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Retarget to Delaware County, Indiana. The unincorporated town was already merged into the county. Ahri Boy (talk) 13:54, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The point of the discussion is that it apparently isn't and wasn't a town at all, so I don't see the redirect. Mangoe (talk) 04:02, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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El Uvito

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Fails WP:GNG; all 1 references are census data Pitille02 (talk) 05:01, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: I believe it should be updated. LexigtonMisiENG (talk) 20:40, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per WP:NPLACE's "Populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable". If it's been included in a census, then it's legally recognised. Molecular Pilot 10:38, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Austerby

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Really cannot see any case for a separate article; this was until recently a redirect to Bourne, Lincolnshire. Which seem s appropriate. TheLongTone (talk) 12:32, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. The Austerby is described as a hamlet under the entry for Bourne in a Lincolnshire Trade Directory and appears on older Ordnance Survey maps. Austerby without "The" is a street name in The Austerby, Bourne. The ward's full name is Bourne Austerby. Pevsner has an Austerby Manor House as a titled entry, but notes it under Bourne. In a recent WikiProject UK geography discussion on whether UK wards required a separate article, most contributors thought they should be subject to passing the GNG - but one experienced editor was of the opinion wards come under WP:NPLACE and have a presumption of notability, so not clearcut. Close call but on balance, I support the nominator's redirect - to Bourne, Lincolnshire, though may change to keep, if further sources are put forward. Rupples (talk) 03:07, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Station, Boston

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This is an electoral ward of just 2,700 people with a town of 45,000 people. All that the article really says is "the ward exists". It does not prove its notability and it is for that complete lack of notability that I am nominating it for deletion. 10mmsocket (talk) 13:48, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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If not deleted, Redirect to Borough of Boston#Elections, which has a list of the wards and a link leading to Boston Borough Council elections and thence to pages such as 2023 Boston Borough Council election which give the detailed election results for the ward (2023 Boston Borough Council election#Station etc). And add to disambiguation page at Station#Places: if it has any encyclopedic value, it merits a dab page entry. PamD 14:16, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename: On further consideration, as it isn't a place it probably shouldn't have comma disambiguation, so it should be renamed as Station (Boston ward) if it survives either as a page or as a redirect. (Or should that be "(Boston, Lincolnshire, ward)"? Should all these places being disambiguated as ", Boston" actually be disambiguated as ", Boston, Lincolnshire"?) PamD 15:11, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Redirect and/or merge to Boston, Lincolnshire as an alternative to deletion. It looks like the Politics section at least mentions the Station ward. – The Grid (talk) 14:21, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Either merge to Boston, Lincolnshire#Borough Council wards or redirect to Borough of Boston#Elections per above. I would prefer the merging option. UserMemer (chat) Tribs 14:47, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per WP:GEOLAND as a populated, legally recognized place. Not opposed to merging/redirecting. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 19:33, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A ward is not a legally recognised place, it is a political division which is not covered in GEOLAND. Therefore should meet GNG which this doesn't. Davidstewartharvey (talk) 16:29, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wards in the UK are legally recognised places. They are created by Acts of Parliament/Statutory Instruments and written into the statute book, you genuinely could not ask for more legal recognition. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 11:26, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge wards are political structures not places (unless the ward covers a legally recognised place) so do not meet GEOLAND. Merge to Boston.Davidstewartharvey (talk) 16:30, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I don't have strong feelings about whether or not to delete this, just throwing another option into the discussion: you could merge/redirect to List of electoral wards in Lincolnshire. There's generally a limited and standard amount of encyclopaedic information that you can say about a ward, which makes them well suited to just using a table. Some of the other "List of electoral wards" articles - e.g. List of electoral wards in Bristol and List of electoral wards in Dorset give examples of how you could use tables to cover the main information (population, location, etc) about all Lincolnshire wards in one list article. Joe D (t) 13:35, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Boğaziçi (Istanbul)

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Tagged uncited since 2009 and Turkish article is also uncited. Sounds plausible but probably needs a native speaker living in İstanbul to say whether this is notable. Chidgk1 (talk) 14:32, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I have left a message on WikiProject Turkey if they could help with this. TNM101 (chat) 15:48, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I have tagged the Turkish article as uncited in the hope that native speakers might add good sources Chidgk1 (talk) 06:43, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep: There are whole books written about this subject such as "Bogaziçi Gezi Rehberi" by Jack Deleon , and "Boğaziçi sayfiyeleri" by G. V. İnciciyan. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 04:18, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is also an article in Istanbul Ansiklopedisi, which is available online. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 04:34, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah interesting. I had never heard of tr:İstanbul Ansiklopedisi before Chidgk1 (talk) 06:53, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: I have announced this AfD on the Turkish Wikipedia's Village Pump for anyone interested in participating. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 22:05, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TheJoyfulTentmaker, this could be seen as canvassing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:23, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the feedback, @Liz. I thought this would be considered an appropriate notification as stated in the canvassing guideline, since that is a central location and I was completely open about it. (A more conventional noticeboard for this, WikiProject Turkey, is unfortunately very inactive lately, and maybe this could attract the interest of some existing/prospective project members.) TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 04:41, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz @TheJoyfulTentmaker I am happy with any of my AfD being publicised on Turkish Wikipedia. In very many cases there is either no Turkish article or it is completely uncited. Many of the Turkish editors would be able to contribute here, but even if they don’t want to come to enwiki if they could cite on trwiki we could simply copy the cite to enwiki. Especially for the many uncited Turkish music, TV and film articles they will be far more knowledgable than me. Chidgk1 (talk) 10:55, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I guess there is no problem here then. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:17, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Bosphorus in the absence of input from native speakers or Istanbul residents. I can't find other sources that verify this use of the term "Boğaziçi," and the Turkish version doesn't provide sources either. Finally able to view the encyclopedia link provided above now that IA is back online, and it does seem to say this term may be used to refer to the neighborhoods adjacent to the Bosphorus. However, I don't know that the sourcing is strong enough to warrant a standalone article. (I'm open to changing my view if additional sources are presented or a local expert can provide perspective. FWIW, my spouse, while not a Turk, does speak some Turkish and has lived in Istanbul and she knows "Boğaziçi" as a reference to the strait, not as a collective term for the neighborhoods that border it.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 04:13, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dclemens1971 I have no strong objection to a merge for now, since the there seems to be an overlap with the Bosphorus article. However, if anyone is interested in splitting it back and writing a standalone article, I'm pretty sure there will be no shortage of sources. Side note: adding this poem, which I believe is notable on its own, for demonstrating common references to the neighborhood in Turkish literature. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 15:56, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge fine by me as requestor Chidgk1 (talk) 07:26, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Geography

Contents

Geography

Do (administrative division)

Hambone, California

Gallery of passport stamps by country or territory

Thales, Indiana

Norton, Indiana

Sobat District

Maltersville, Indiana

Walpole (CDP), Massachusetts

Inalugartuut

Jaap-se-Hoogte

Calder Hill

Sports in Kilgore

Balobanian

Haven Village

Kavaloi

Stockport, Indiana

Różanna, Bydgoszcz County

Arguni (district)

Medford, Indiana

Gates Corner, Indiana

El Uvito

Austerby

Station, Boston

Boğaziçi (Istanbul)

Geography-related proposed deletions