Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/TolBot 13B

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Approved.

TolBot 13B

Operator: Tol (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 19:15, Friday, March 18, 2022 (UTC)

Function overview: Creates redirects for tennis articles

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: supervised

Programming language(s): Python

Source code available: simple mass creation

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate):

Edit period(s): one-time

Estimated number of pages affected: ~~2175~~ 563 (new redirects; no article changes)

Namespace(s): (Article)

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): not applicable

Function details: Creates redirects based on this list (permalink), from the first link to the second link in each list item.

Discussion

This is a followup to the moves done by Tolbot 13A, where we moved all the non-redirects, but probably should have moved redirects, too, such that when we updated the case in links we wouldn't have created redlinks. But since we did create redlinks in some cases, where redirects only existed in the wrong-case versions, the easy fix is just to create the right-case versions of all those wrong-case redirects (it's not clear which ones we actually need, so let's do them all). So I requested and support this BRFA. Dicklyon (talk) 20:37, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Just to better understand the purpose of this BRFA: what's an example diff showing where some of these (current redlink) redirects would've been necessary? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 17:41, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Here's a diff where the editor who found and reported the problem on my talk page did manual fixes by bypassing the redirects. There are an unknown number of these (probably hundreds). Dicklyon (talk) 02:00, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Could we use "WhatLinksHere" in mainspace to check there are actually incoming links before creating the redirect? e.g. with Special:WhatLinksHere with 2008 Canada Masters – Men's doubles (one instance of which was fixed in the diff you link) we see there is an incoming mainspace link at 2008 Tennis Masters Cup, so there's a problematic redlink there. A lot of the pages don't have any incoming links though; would prefer to see a more targeted task than the creation of 2175 redirects. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 11:41, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@ProcrastinatingReader, I could trim the list with such checks. I'll put something together to remove titles with no incoming links from the list. Tol (talk | contribs) @ 13:42, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If we're going to go to the trouble to distinguish the ones that are unused, we should delete them, rather than leave redirects with only the incorrect capitalization. Dicklyon (talk) 16:12, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See original report/discussion at User talk:Letcord#Inquiry about Doubles → doubles. Dicklyon (talk) 06:15, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I find myself mostly agreeing with PR on this one - if there isn't a reason other than "because they might be used in the future" to create over 2k redirects, I'm not overly inclined to push this task. Primefac (talk) 12:28, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
OK, let's just create the ones that are used, and delete the wrong-case other ones then. Dicklyon (talk) 15:42, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Tol, Qwerty284651, and Letcord: To get this done, someone will need to compile the list of which redirects are needed, and which should be deleted. I don't know how to do that. Dicklyon (talk) 23:17, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

But hold off a few days, as the link case fixing we're doing is creating a need for more that are presently not needed (e.g. multiple years of these two I just fixed: 2009 Internazionali BNL d'Italia – Men's doubles, 2007 Internazionali BNL d'Italia – Men's singles Dicklyon (talk) 23:39, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Dicklyon, I've reduced my list down to only those red links that have been/will be created during your run updating all the link casings, from 2175 down to 563. There'll be no need to hold off a few days as this is the complete list. Letcord (talk) 00:10, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@ProcrastinatingReader and Tol: We are done preparing the pruned list of used/redlinked redirects needed, at User:Letcord/sandbox/TennisRedirects. PTAL. Dicklyon (talk) 23:41, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Dicklyon, looks good. I've revised the task description accordingly. Tol (talk | contribs) @ 23:49, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Approved for trial (25 edits). Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete. for the shorter list at User:Letcord/sandbox/TennisRedirects. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 16:52, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Trial complete. Creations:
. Tol (talk | contribs) @ 18:12, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Just for context, this is an example of an article with red links that need to be redirected following Dicklyon's case fixes, and will be by this bot. Letcord (talk) 02:48, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@ProcrastinatingReader, any update? Tol (talk | contribs) @ 20:21, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Approved. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 15:50, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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