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Nintendo Network Service Database

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Doesn't appear to be notable outside Wii no Ma. IgelRM (talk) 09:47, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy delete‎. Isabelle Belato ^🏳‍🌈 02:13, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Twitter Plays Snake

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Not a notable topic; fails WP:GNG. Very close to meeting criterion WP:A7 but makes a claim of significance (the number of followers). Helpful Raccoon (talk) 20:26, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Non-notable, not mentioned in reliable sources. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:41, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, fails WP:N. Alexeyevitch^(talk) 21:17, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete Zero reliable sources to indicate notability nor any suggestions in text regarding notability. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 21:18, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete. Zero indication of notability. Not even the creator of it is notable, so there is nothing to salvage here. λ NegativeMP1 21:39, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Sorry, I probably should have used CSD A7 since follower count is not an indication of notability. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 00:40, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete per above. Aaron Liu (talk) 19:12, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I have nominated the article for speedy deletion per this unanimous page. TheWikiToby (talk) 01:33, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Marquis Elmdor → Final Fantasy Tactics (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

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Delete all. Were once redirects to Characters of Final Fantasy Tactics, that got redirected to Final Fantasy Tactics and they are no longer mentioned in the article. Article is FA-class so it's unlikely that they are ever going to be added to the article. Mika1h (talk) 23:47, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jon Radoff

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Appears to fail WP:NBIO - while it does have a piece of significant coverage, the InfoWorld article, the others are just announcements and primary source interviews without substantive discussion. It does not pass WP:NARTIST either due to the fact he was just a co-developer or director of most games he made. When the article was first made it also failed NBIO and does not seem to have remedied that situation. There are a lot of minor mentions, but a lack of SIGCOV. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:36, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom, still fails the If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability. as most of them are primary and just trivial Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 05:51, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: ComputerHope database entry. This appears to be a follow up from Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Beamable, note that gamerDNA, founded by Radoff, also has an article.. IgelRM (talk) 21:23, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

When you add this Ars Technica article, combined with PC Gamer and Boston Globe articles, I do think GuildCafe/GamerDNA passes WP:NCORP, so I will not be nominating it for deletion. Though I can't say the same for its creator yet. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:30, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But the Ars article heavily quotes Radoff, so I think WP:ATD would be feasible again. Not going by guidelines briefly, GamerDNA appeared to exist from 2006 to 2011(?), while Radoff had a career from 1992 to now. IgelRM (talk) 00:22, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Hatsune Miku: Colorful Stage! characters

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WP:Gamecruft, un-encyclopedic excessively detailed. (Although the move from the game article to a separate page was justified) IgelRM (talk) 14:57, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment I am confused by the nominators rationale, if they say the split is justified then the article should be kept no? The concer about it being excessively detailed is WP:FIXABLE. Jumpytoo Talk 17:08, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is it fixable though? Can we write an out-of-universe article sourced to third party sourcing? Or will this always be a massive unsourced collection of plot summary? Sergecross73 msg me 18:48, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jumpytoo Understood, the second sentence was just meant to excuse the page creator as I thought they improved the Hatsune Miku: Colorful Stage! article with the split. But I don't think it is possible to write this list to encyclopedic standard with the sources we have. IgelRM (talk) 20:28, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Hatsune Miku: Colorful Stage!#Characters, seems to fail WP:INDISCRIMINATE with no reception or anything besides pure plot. I'd disagree any split was "justified", this is the type of thing that ought to be pruned and not moved somewhere to easily sweep under the rug. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:38, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are a lot to expand from characters page alone. For example, sub characters for each units (that gets deleted from the main page of Hatsune Miku: Colorful Stage!). In the Japanese server of the game, in-game's time has advanced to one year. If you actually play the game, you will know that there are a lot to explore from the characters. Of course I myself plan to write it myself, but it will take time and the current main page a bunch of mess.Yukinotane (talk) 10:28, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The concern isn't necessarily expansion - it's already plenty long - but if there's a path to proving its meeting our notability guidelines, and can be written with encyclopedic content. Sergecross73 msg me 13:32, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I understand your intentions but Wikipedia is tries to be a general encyclopedia. IgelRM (talk) 20:45, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect - the characters don't seem to be independently notable from the game. It sounds like it was spun out due to it being a size split, but if you trim out the crufty, wikia-like content, it's simply not necessary. Sergecross73 msg me 13:45, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Hatsune Miku: Colorful Stage! WP:GAMECRUFT and WP:FANCRUFT. There doesn't seem to be much SIGCOV on individual Project Sekai characters. The game's what's notable here but the characters are not. ~delta ^{(talk • cont)} 18:16, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Andreas Waldetoft

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I did not find any secondary, significant coverage in a search for sources that would meet our notability guidelines. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 02:35, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect - to Paradox Interactive. Plausible search term, very active in his respective company, but as the nom suggests, I'm not seeing proof of independent notability. Sergecross73 msg me 18:52, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per above: The German article mentions working with Brandenburgisches Staatsorchester Frankfurt (Oder), but that doesn't appear to be significant coverage. IgelRM (talk) 21:07, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I can't see the previous draft that was deleted after 3 AfC rejections in 2022, but it may have been the same as the present article, as the text is outdated: the subject's own site says he left his job at Paradox in 2023. AllyD (talk) 12:16, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Matt Firor

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Insufficiently sourced and doesn't appear notable, redirect to ZeniMax Online Studios? IgelRM (talk) 21:31, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Portugal 1111: A Conquista de Soure

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Fails WP:GNG, with few reviews or significant coverage in reliable sources. This is one of the only reviews I could find, and it's in a publication of uncertain reliability. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 17:39, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Lists PTGamers.com and Gamerstek.com under external links. Primary source [1] IgelRM (talk) 12:29, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Both sites are now dead, which doesn't speak towards their reliability. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:58, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~Keep - Gamerstek review is archived here: [2]. According to their about page, they had a video game section in Destak newspaper, which indicates some sort of reliability. However, it's a moot point if there are no other potential reliable sources since 1 review is not enough. PTGamers.com review ref seems completely dead, but looking at their archived main site ([3]) there doesn't seem to be an about page or similar, I can't find anything to indicate any reliability. --Mika1h (talk) 18:36, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Forgot to mention that Push Start ref, which is an independently published digital magazine, seems unreliable to me looking at the editorial page: [4]. --Mika1h (talk) 18:46, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gamerstek and Mega Score reviews are enough for GNG. --Mika1h (talk) 08:58, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - The game got in-depth coverage in a June 2004 issue of Mega Score, including an interview (p.30, 31), and a review (p.70, 71). The only other coverage I was able to find is a brief mention of the game in a 2021 article from the newspaper Observador about video games about Portugal. It's possible that the game got coverage in Portuguese newspapers at the time of release (Newspapers.com has no Portuguese newspapers unfortunately and I wouldn't know where else to look), as the Observator article and the interview in Mega Score indicate that the game was partially funded by Soure city hall. Waxworker (talk) 19:05, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I found a dead link from TSF (radio station). It might be useful to mention the game on the Visão article. IgelRM (talk) 13:49, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per the reviews presented above. Two reliable reviews, good enough for me. PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Reviews presented show the page can be retained. Add the 1 paragraph in Observador (linked above by Waxworker) https://observador.pt/2021/03/17/nao-e-so-em-civilization-vi-ha-mais-4-series-de-videojogos-onde-pode-controlar-portugal/ ; a 5-page article dedicated to the game: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/235915242_Um_estudo_das_dinamicas_de_apropriacao_do_jogo_Portugal_1111_-_A_Conquista_de_Soure_em_contexto_escolar and I think that should be enough. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 23:44, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Observador source is a list with a few sentences about the game. SBGames, the paper's publisher, is the "Simpósio Brasileiro de Jogos e Entretenimento Digital", not sure that is enough. IgelRM (talk) 21:03, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Iikka Keränen

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Doesn't appear notable, redirect to Digital Eel? IgelRM (talk) 19:08, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect as above or to Doom modding#Commercial WADs. Doesn't meet WP:GNG. Tau Corvi (talk) 19:20, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Digital Eel. Both are good redirect targets but I prefer this one. --Mika1h (talk) 15:22, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Miika Huttunen

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Doesn't appear notable, redirect to Pelaaja? IgelRM (talk) 19:01, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Pelaaja. Finnish version has some paywalled articles in reliable sources ([5], [6]) but I doubt they are significant coverage. --Mika1h (talk) 15:14, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Harry M. Rubin

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Upon review of article and its sources, the person in question does not meet the notability guidelines in question: the person is not (1) cited by 3rd party sources other than websites that repeat his bio as an official founder of Samuel Adams beer (2) known for originating a new concept [see point #1] (3) become a significant monument, etc. (4) He is not cited as by peers and 3rd party sources for the work that is well-known or significant. The article was written by a blocked user and could primarily serve the purpose of self promotion as defined in WP:NOTADVERT. P3D7AQ09M6 (talk)

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Delete. This is just a CV. No notability. ApLundell (talk) 05:01, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If deleted Harry Rubin (virologist) should be moved to the base name since Harry Rubin redirects here.--67.70.101.117 (talk) 23:48, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Folks, My apologies, I actually meant to nominate Harry Rubin (virologist) Late night editing got the best of me. Upon a 2nd look at this article in particular, I found new reputable secondary sources to that show indeed this Harry Rubin was indeed a Samuel Adams co-founder. I'm closing going to close this deletion nomination in favor of doing some work to improve the article itself. P3D7AQ09M6 (talk) 04:28, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe delete both of them.

Being a minor, behind-the-scenes partner of a business does not make someone notable.

ApLundell (talk) 05:57, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In the spirit of WP:GD I'm going to suggest that we pursue a constructive alternative such as improving or cleaning up the article. Two main reasons (1) Being one of the Samuel Adams founders both within the beverage field and just generally is definitely a major contribution. It looks he was not the frontman, but, indeed, he's been recognized by multiple secondary sources as being a founder and his involvement in various beverage investments is notable enough to be topic of headlines. As you probably know, media outlets have full control over headlines, which means that these media outlets viewed his involvement as "the story". On a more basic level, Samuel Adams is also billion dollar major conglomerate, it's widely recognized, and is part of the American social milieu (2) I digged into other secondary sources and there's quite a few other significant achievements such as being one of the people who started GT Interactive, which launched DOOM (a major video game) (3) This nomination was a careless mistake on my part so it's kind of a fluke nomination. My apologies again to all for that bonehead error and for wasting folks time reviewing this!

re: Harry Rubin (virologist) Even though I intended to nominate it, I also now lean towards keeping it. Mostly because his achievements within his specific domain are quite significant.

If we deny this deletion nomination, I can take an action item to improve both pages.P3D7AQ09M6 (talk) 22:18, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: See also AFD'ed C. M. Rubin, his partner. IgelRM (talk) 08:36, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Relisting. We need to hear from more editors as the nominator states they didn't mean to nominate this article (so a withdrawal of sorts) but an editor is arguing for deletion.
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Keep: Assuming this is for Harry M. Rubin? Solid keep ... Sam Adams founding is notable + impact in AAA game studios with solid set of citations. Recommend the Harry Rubin (virologist) AFD be posted separately? John.mark1956 (talk) 03:30, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not notable and written like a resume. Delete. Go4thProsper (talk) 22:58, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep for the reasons I described above. As Liz mentioned above, I think withdrawing this nomination also makes sense. P3D7AQ09M6 (talk) 18:34, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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