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808s & Heartbreak

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808s & Heartbreak is the fourth studio album by Kanye West, released on November 24, 2008. West's new musical direction of using Auto-Tune did confuse some critics, though general assessments of the album and its singles were positive, later leading to numerous rankings and awards for West. The album brought West a large amount of commercial success, especially with the hits "Heartless" and "Love Lockdown".

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  808s & Heartbreak
12 articles
 
  "Say You Will"
  "Welcome to Heartbreak"
  "Heartless"
  "Amazing"
  "Love Lockdown"
  "Paranoid"
  "RoboCop"
  "Street Lights"
  "See You in My Nightmares"
  "Coldest Winter"
  Fame Kills: Starring Kanye West and Lady Gaga
Contributor(s): K. Peake, Bruce Campbell, IndianBio

I am submitting 808s & Heartbreak to become a good topic, following on from all of the detailed articles having rightfully earned GA-status. The album and its scheduled tour were promoted by users other than me many years ago, though I have made sure that these ones are still up to standard now and all of the songs were promotions of mine from 2019-21. All the articles have remained stable, as well as covered by reliable sources. --K. Peake 07:00, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support Rapreviews.com on "Coldest Winter" and "RoboCop" doesn't seem reliable at all. I do have some doubts regarding "Mind Equals Blown". On "RoboCop" the Overthinking It source, the people writing for it have degrees in something else but journalism, with one working as a janitor? On "Paranoid", the Soul in Stereo is a blog run by only one person, no one else. On "Welcome to Heartbreak" I have some doubts regarding the notability of the Antville Music Video Awards.On "Amazing" there are sources with publishers, others without, be consistent. In the same article, I'm 100% sure you can find a better source to replace rockonthenet. On the album article, "he Amajanes Blog" has to be removed. Aside from this, nice job on providing sources to show the notability of every song in the album.MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 09:05, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • See Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources for the verdict on RapReviews as generally reliable, see this review for my explanation of Mind Equals Blown in terms of reliability. Regarding Overthinking It, the about page shows that there are editorial, podcast and technical teams, as well as listing out a large number of staff. Many of these are qualified, such as experienced writers Matthew Wrather and Mark Lee, while the original article's author Ryan Sheely is a political scientist that studies numerous subjects, including applying social science to pop and hip hop records. Since the staff I discovered on the site seem to constitute reliability, I think you may have accidentally stumbled across one of the lower members and thought them to be representative of the majority. --K. Peake 06:10, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have more concerns and updated the previous ones. On top of that, "Mind Equals Blown (MEB) is the product of a group of friends coming together in a search for a deeper appreciation of music", doesn't strike me as notable, your explanation proves nothing as they selected certain pieces. I didn't stumble upon a lower member of the staff, but Matthew Wrather. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 09:05, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have now removed Mind Equals Blown and the info it was sourcing, replaced Soul in Stereo and the Antville Music Video Awards annually gives online awards to videos, so I don't see how it's not notable for a non-single like "Welcome to Heartbreak". Any excess publishers were removed from "Amazing" now and I've only kept the parameter where it should solely be used to cite publications, also I replaced both Rock on the Net and The Amajanes Blog. Overthinking It is still pending since I have got work today and it sources a lot of info, so I'll replace tomorrow probably. I have now deleted any usage of the publication from "RoboCop", either replacing it where other sources mentioned the info or removing the content altogether. --K. Peake 15:56, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Good job so far! I have strike almost everything, however, I still have some difficulty wrapping my hand around the Antville Music Video Awards. The site nowadays seems to be run by "kevathens", it used to have other people back in the day. People are asked to post music videos. Looks like a blog of music video fans who comment on that specter and vote for a video they like once a year. It is not an award show like the MTV Music Video Awards and others in the same vein. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 09:11, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for the support after all the cleaning up I did, but I would like to inform you that the aside part of your initial comments has not been striked, making it read quite awkwardly. --K. Peake 20:43, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You welcome. Which part? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 09:34, 30 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I literally mean the "aside from this" part. --K. Peake 06:23, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That is a compliment. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 12:46, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
MarioSoulTruthFan Not the whole sentence, I meant those three words since they are no longer relevant now I've fixed things. --K. Peake 08:10, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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