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CMLL World Light Heavyweight Champions

The CMLL World Light Heavyweightt Champions is a professional wrestling championship promoted by the Mexican Consejo Mundial de Lucha Libre (CMLL) promotion. It was originally created in 1991 for the 92 kg (203 lb) and 97 kg (214 lb) weight division. The topic includes ever wrestler who has held the championship at one point in time.

CMLL World Light Heavyweight Championship

17 articles

List of champions

Jerry Estrada

Pierroth Jr.

Dr. Wagner Jr.

Atlantis

Aquarius

Villano III

Shocker

Último Guerrero

Rey Bucanero

Ephesto

Rush

Rey Escorpión

Ángel de Oro

La Máscara

Niebla Roja

Contributor(s): MPJ-DK

This covers a complete topic, the chamionship, a list article and every single person to win the championship is of GA quality. There have been a total of 15 champions over the last 29 years, adding a new champion every 1.5 years on average - so the task of getting another champion article to GA is not an overwhelming task --MPJ-DK (talk) 19:05, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

• Support: The championship, the list, and all past & present title holders, with a navbox and category. Looks like it's all there! -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 20:38, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
• Support: a clearly defined scope, articles about the championship and a complete list of champions, even including the unofficial champion Aquarius. Meets criterion (1)(c) by Template:CMLL World Light Heavyweight Championship and meets (2) and (3). — Bilorv (talk) 19:02, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
• Director comment - Would like this to have more discussion before closing this nomination. Can't say two Supports is enough of a consensus. GamerPro64 05:28, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Very thorough. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 15:09, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
• Closed with consensus to promote to Good Topic. - GamerPro64 23:56, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Major estuaries of Texas

The U.S. state of Texas has a series of seven major estuaries along its coast on the Gulf of Mexico, most of them bounded by the Texas barrier islands. The estuaries are sometimes named for their chief contributing rivers, and they are also sometimes referred to by the names of their respective primary or central bays. These water bodies include some of the largest and most ecologically productive coastal estuaries in the United States and contribute significantly to the ecological and economic resources of Texas.

Major estuaries of Texas

8 articles

Corpus Christi Bay

Laguna Madre

Matagorda Bay

San Antonio Bay

Aransas Bay

Sabine Lake

Galveston Bay

Contributor(s): Bryan Rutherford

This is a series of articles about the seven major estuaries on the Texas coast, together with an overview article. All are now at GA quality, so I am nominating them as a Good Topic. All are found in Category:Estuaries of Texas and linked together by the navbox Template:Estuaries of Texas. Thanks for your consideration! -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 21:19, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

• Thanks for this excellent topic! I am a little confused about the organization, since the sections of the main article are for the estuaries, but the subarticles are for specific bays within the estuary. For example the header of Colorado–Lavaca Estuary has Matagorda Bay as the main article, though that estuary system also includes GAs Carancahua Bay and Lavaca Bay and a couple non-GAs. Then East Matagorda Bay ("part of the Matagorda Bay system") is listed as a separate minor estuary. With that, I think Estuaries of Texas should go into some more detail about the estuaries in general. It's made up of summaries of each of the individual articles but there's nothing really unifying about it other than being in Texas. What can be said about the common geology and ecosystem of this chain of estuaries, for example? Very interesting to read about! Reywas92^Talk 19:46, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

It's common to refer to each estuary system by the name of its main body of water, e.g. referring to the entire Colorado–Lavaca Estuary system as "Matagorda Bay", as noted at the end of the first lead paragraph in the overview article; these articles are about the entire systems, not just the central elements, and I've added to the blurb to try to make this more clear. This proposal is organized as an "overview topic", as described here, meaning that all the smaller sub-bays and inlets are briefly covered within the articles on the seven major estuaries. East Matagorda Bay is described as a separate minor estuary by the state, as the cited sources confirm, because it's hydrologically separated from Matagorda Bay proper. The scope I'm proposing covers the articles on the seven major estuaries, each of which is larger and more complicated than all of the minor ones combined; the minor estuaries are covered at a depth suitable to their importance in the overview article. As for a unifying overview section in the main article, it had one... and the GA reviewer ordered that it be removed. I'll consider whether it would be appropriate to just put it back in now that the review is concluded. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 19:57, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Okay that makes sense on the naming then! Yes, that would be good to include that in the main article. While it works well as an overview topic, it's important to have content tying them all together beyond being in the same state. Reywas92^Talk 23:46, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

I've added a new overview paragraph to the headline article giving some geological history and going into greater detail about the ecological and economic significance of the estuaries to Texas. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 21:38, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Okay that's a decent start to an overview. Looks like there's more from the TWDB that could be included there but overall I support! Reywas92^Talk 20:12, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose Without East Matagorda Bay and Christmas Bay (Texas) the topic "Estuaries of Texas" is incomplete. (Minor estuaries are still estuaries.) Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 18:52, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

I'm proposing that the scope of the topic be the major estuaries, each of which is of greater size and ecological and economic importance than all of the minor ones combined. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 19:07, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

• Support Comments' With the discussion of major/minor etc. I think this nomination may need to be renamed and have the lead updated to make the topic scope clear, at the moment there seems to be some confusion. Not sure if a renaming and change to scope would require a resubmit or what? Note - if this was clearly "Major Estuaries" I could easily support the nomination. MPJ-DK (talk) 21:46, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Hrm. Yeah, upon reflection, I guess this proposal probably needs one more article along the lines of "Minor estuaries of Texas" to meet the criteria for an overview topic of the estuaries of Texas. @Armbrust: Would rebuilding this as a "Major estuaries of Texas" topic resolve your concerns? -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 23:49, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, that’s fine with me. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 23:52, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

@Armbrust and MPJ-DK: Okay, sorry to keep pinging you, but I've updated the proposal to try to make the reduced scope clear. What do y'all think? -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 00:02, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Yup that'll do it for me, I've updated my comment to Support. MPJ-DK (talk) 00:46, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Support after narrowing the scope of the topic. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 07:42, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

• Consensus to promote to Good Topic. Regards  Spy-cicle💥  ^Talk? 19:43, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Naruto volumes

Naruto volumes

Featured topic

4 articles

Part I

Part II, (volumes 28–48)

Part II, (volumes 49–72)

Contributor(s): Sephiroth BCR, 1989

This former featured topic has had significant changes made to all of the lists since it was demoted back at the end of 2013. Since the conclusion of Part II, all of the lists pertaining to the manga have been promoted to featured status, thus passing WP:FT?. I am personally a big fan of Naruto, so I hope to see this topic get promoted again. --KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 23:42, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

• Comment: The three subordinate articles seem to contain literally exactly the same content as the main list, just divided into three parts. It seems as though we either don't need the overview list or don't need the three shorter ones. I'm not sure this seems like a "topic" so much as two copies of the exact same material. What am I missing? -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 23:55, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

  The separate lists are transcluded in the Volumes article. I wonder if there’s some way for it to look like this again, while keeping it transcluded. Pinging Tintor2. 1989 (talk) 17:05, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

I tend to suck at making sublists. Normally, DragonZero used to help me when I messed up the sublist of D.Gray-man and Bungo Stray Dogs.Tintor2 (talk) 17:29, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support @Bryanrutherford0 and Tintor2: The sublist transclusion has been fixed by DragonZero. 1989 (talk) 15:20, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this is something we're supposed to consider at WP:FTC, but it doesn't look to me like the overview list would pass WP:FLC as it now exists; it has a section that consists entirely of a hatnote and no text. I won't oppose this nomination over it, but this one doesn't make sense to me. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 19:22, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Section removed. 1989 (talk) 17:39, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Sure, and now the article seems to me to be incomplete (and thus not feature quality) because it doesn't cover those film comic tankōbon (despite mentioning them in the lead). Doesn't seem ready to me. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 19:22, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Removed. 1989 (talk) 19:57, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

• Support Everything checks out. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 18:52, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
• Support This hits all the marks, lots of work, kudos. MPJ-DK (talk) 21:38, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
• Closed with consensus to promote to Featured Topic - GamerPro64 03:14, 20 May 2020 (UTC)