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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was archived by Crisco 1492 08:28, 7 May 2015 [1].

2015 Cricket World Cup squads

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Nominator(s): RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 07:05, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it fulfills the criteria. There were some unreferenced teams, which I have fixed. RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 07:05, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose: the lead is exceptionally short for an article of this length, and does not sufficiently summarise the content. The tables all lack row scopes, which are required for accessibility. The tables would further benefit greatly from being sortable, and does not require the flags in the final column (in fact, MOS:FLAG frowns upon the flags being used like this anyway.) The lead image requires alt text for accessibility. The tables appear to be unreferenced, as it is unclear which (if any) citation covers them. It needs to be made clear when the ages and the number of matches played refers to (the start of the tournament, the final?) The section headings should not be linked, and definitely should not include flags. It would be useful to include appearances in the tournament as an additional column, to give an indication of who played, and how much. Harrias talk 18:41, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Please wait for a couple of days, Joseph2302 has already strated working, and me too. I hope within 2 or 3 days, the article will be according to your suggestions. RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 18:27, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
There's no rush, featured list candidates have to be open for at least ten days, and most are closer to a month. Harrias talk 18:49, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Harrias: Hi, all the references had been added. Please let me know what more should be done. RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 06:36, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm currently adding the number of matches each player played in the World Cup. Also, I think it would be good if each team had a few lines of text about their squads, not just 1 sentence. I've added some detail for England and Australia. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:06, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment:I've added a lead, with a better summary of the scope of the article i.e. more about the 2015 Cricket World Cup, and clarified the ODI and age figures in the lead section. I can see how the referencing of player details looks bad, so am going to add sources for them (it'll take ages to do, because I need to run a stats query into a database for each player, to get the correct info at 14 Feb). I guess using similar queries on the same database I can also find all matches played in the World Cup, and add this. Flags I can deal with too, but I'll probably do it last. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:56, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also, I'm planning to add total World Cup appearances after the tournament finishes on Sunday, using sources from here. We're currently working on the nightmare task of adding sources for all the currently listed player stats, as we need 2 sources for each player (so over 400 sources in total). There's unfortunately not a more efficient way, I searched every cricket stats site. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:04, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Question to the nominator – I'm not sure if your are a major contributor to this list. Leaving that aside, did you go through the criteria and ensure that this list meets the prime requirements of an FL. Also, are you aware of WP:PR? —Vensatry (ping) 18:51, 28 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment:Looks good. I've added rowscopes, column scopes and made all columns the same width. Blackhole78 talk | contrib 06:53, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Further comments
  • No need to have 2015 Cricket World Cup in bold.
  • I don't think that there is a need to mention the 2011 and 2019 tournaments in the lead of this article. In general, I think the lead would benefit from discussing less about the tournament in general, and more about the composition of the squads. For example, maybe mention that Jayawardene had played the most ODIs prior to the tournament, and maybe mention how many World Cups he had played in, stuff like that.
  • Now that the lists are sortable, {{sortname}} should be used so that the players name sort by surname.
  • The ODIs column for the England table doesn't sort right for me either.
  • A Key would be beneficial so that it is obvious what the ODI and CWC 15 columns signify.
  • Remove the flags from the coaches.

This list is moving in the right direction, for sure. Harrias talk 19:04, 19 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Reply from User:Joseph2302 to these points
  • Removed
  • Removed the unnecessary stuff, will add some interesting squad stuff (Jayawardene, maybe the oldest/youngest players too).
  • Will add the sortname thing at some point.
  • Wiki didn't like Morgan's note, I moved it which fixed the problem. Error didn't make sense, since Ronchi and Joyce notes didn't affect their columns.
  • Added a key, now changed the key so it's a table.
  • Removed flags. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:51, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well that's about 100 hours of my life wasted improving this article- won't be doing this again anytime soon. I'd basically fixed most of the problems, yet no-one else could be bothered to contribute. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:59, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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