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2016 Summer Olympics medal table

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Nominator(s): Hey man im josh (talk) 14:45, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm quite excited to present my third Olympic medal table nomination, which is based largely on other recent nominations, such as 2020 Summer Olympics medal table, 1964 Summer Olympics medal table, and 2018 Winter Olympics medal table. I believe it meets all of our criteria and, as always, I will do my best to respond quickly and address any and all feedback or concerns that are brought up. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:45, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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  • Phelps image caption needs a full stop
  • "due to medals reallocation" => "due to medal reallocation"
  • CAS should be written in full
  • "The IOC has not yet redistributed the medals" - should be medal singular as this cell only relates to one DQ
  • You mention Nijat Rahimov's DQ and the lack of reallocation of the medal to date in the prose, but not the other similar case......?
  • "an 87th country was later awarded a medal at the 2008 Olympics, tying the record" - should probably also mention in this section that the figure for 2016 subsequently went down to 86 therefore the 2008 games now hold the record outright
  • That's all I got - great work as ever, Josh! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:20, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Phelps image caption needs a full stop – Done.
  • Example text – Done.
  • CAS should be written in full –
  • "The IOC has not yet redistributed the medals" - should be medal singular as this cell only relates to one DQ – Done. I was thinking "medals" because, if redistributed, the gold would go to second, the silver would go to... well... the thid place person is under investigation, but the idea is it would go to them, and so on. Hence, I was thinking of multiple reallocations. Never the less, for the time being, singular actually makes sense.
  • You mention Nijat Rahimov's DQ and the lack of reallocation of the medal to date in the prose, but not the other similar case......? – I've converted it to a note now, but
  • "an 87th country was later awarded a medal at the 2008 Olympics, tying the record" - should probably also mention in this section that the figure for 2016 subsequently went down to 86 therefore the 2008 games now hold the record outright – I've added to the note, I hope it makes things more clear.
Thanks so much for the feedback @ChrisTheDude!! I very much appreciate it and I hope I've addressed all of your points. Please do let me know if I can do better. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:39, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source review

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I'll do a source review, and add in any general comments. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:16, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Hey man im josh: Only the SB Nation source is concerning. Nothing in my general comments that is a blocker. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 10:16, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source review

  • Is the use of SB Nation appropriate, given the discussion at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_437#SB_Nation?
  • Everything else looks like a suitable source for the info supported.
  • I didn't see any issues with citation formatting.
  • Spot checks on "On 18 August 2016, Kyrgyz weightlifter Izzat Artykov was stripped of his bronze medal in the men's 69 kg event after testing positive for strychnine. Luis Javier Mosquera of Colombia, who had been the fourth-place finisher before Artykov's disqualification, was moved into third place" - no issues
  • Spot checks on "On 8 December 2016, the CAS disqualified weightlifter Gabriel Sîncrăian of Romania after he tested positive for exogenous testosterone and boxer Misha Aloian of Russia after he tested positive for tuaminoheptane. In the men's 85 kg weightlifting event Denis Ulanov of Kazakhstan was moved into third place. In the men's flyweight (52 kg) boxing event Yoel Finol of Venezuela was moved into second place; the released bronze medal has not been awarded to anyone." - no issues.
  • Spot check on "Serghei Tarnovschi of Moldova was stripped of his bronze medal in the men's C-1 1000 metres canoeing event after testing positive for GHRP-2, a growth hormone-releasing peptide." - no issues

General comments

  • "The golds are purer than any presented at all preceding Olympics." - "The golds were... " for consistency? Although I suppose "are" is true.
  • I like "the mint that minted" but you may want to reword to avoid repetition.
Hey @BennyOnTheLoose, I'm so sorry I missed your review!!! I never would have let this go long without response had I realized sooner. Anyways...
SB Nation discussions are often tainted by the fact people widely evaluate the parent site, SB Nation, along with its hundred of sub sites (typically one for every professional team). Their main site is actually typically pretty okay and doesn't *usually* have anything significantly wrong with it. That's, in my opinion, the reason why we haven't moved to actually placing them in the unreliable source category. For that specific usage of the reference, the only thing that it's verifying is the number of people that were a part of the team. I've had a real tough time verifying how many people were on the team, and it felt relevant to call out the fact that everyone that's "independent" in that context was actually from Kuwait. Unfortinately... 2016_Summer_Olympics#Number_of_athletes_by_National_Olympic_Committee was of no help since it's unreferenced.
As for the other two suggestions, I've made relevant changes. Thanks so much for your review! Hey man im josh (talk) 18:40, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gonzo_fan2007

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  • A total of 11,238 -> deleting "A total of" would be more concise
  • Overall, 87 teams -> same thing with "overall"
  • Host country Brazil won seven gold medals, their most at any single Summer Olympics I often try to avoid sentences that may go out of date. I will also note that in 2020 they won 7 gold again. Maybe clarify or rewrite to state that the total of 7 was the most up to that point.
  • winning 46 gold and 121 total medals respectively. -> The United States led the medal table both in number of gold medals won and in overall medals, winning 46 and 121 respectively. "Respectively" means that you are listing off totals from the previous phrasing, so no need to repeat.

Just a few comments for now. Ill come back later for more. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 23:23, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • The design for the Olympic medals for the 2016 Summer Olympics featured the largest medals in terms of diameter of any medal presented at the Olympics. --> The 2016 Summer Olympic medals were the largest in history. Ok, I'm not sure what exactly to change this too. I just wanted to show that the sentence is overly complicated. "Olympics" is said 3 times, "medals" is said 3 times, and I can't think of any other way that a circle would be measured other than diameter. Recommend really tightening up.
  • Much of the copper used in minting the bronze medals came from recycling waste from the mint itself. "Much of" doesn't equate to 40%, per the source. I would rephrase to "a little less than half" or something more accurate. I also think this strays a little in CLOP territory:
    • Source: And 40 per cent of the copper used in the bronze medals came from waste at the Mint itself.
    • Article: Much of the copper used in minting the bronze medals came from recycling waste from the mint itself.
    • Recommendation: Just under half of the copper used in the bronze medals was recycled from normal operations at the Brazilian Mint. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:30, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • You state that the "obverse" side is Nike, while the source says the "reverse" side. I think you mean reverse.

That's all I got hey man im josh. Thanks! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:30, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Gonzo fan2007, I'm sorry I missed your comments until now! I'm just about done for the day so I'll make sure this is all addressed tomorrow. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:04, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey @Gonzo fan2007, is "respectively" really meant to be left out? I find it more confusing to say "winning 46 and 121" and stopping there. I believe I've addressed everything else that you've brought up though and I very much appreciate your feedback! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:27, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I mean that repeating "medals" isn't needed. So you can just say winning 46 and 121 respectively.. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:32, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Gonzo fan2007: Gotcha, done! Hey man im josh (talk) 18:45, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support nice work! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:30, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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