Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Green Bay Packers NFL Anniversary All-Time Team selections/archive1

Nominator(s): « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:45, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The last in the list of all-time team selections for the Packers. As always, happy to address any concerns or issues promptly. Thanks for reviewing! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:45, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Alavense

In addition to the 16 players named to the team, two runners-up were named for each of the 15 positions, for a total of 46 players - Unsure about whether that two complies with MOS:NUMNOTES: "Comparable values nearby one another should be all spelled out or all in figures, even if one of the numbers would normally be written differently".
19 players were named to the "two-way team", with six - Sure that one doesn't.
There are several instances of this throughout the text. Please have a look at them.
25 years later - Sentence shouldn't begin with a number.
19 players - Ditto.
100 players - Ditto.
Refs should be Refs..
Both two-way and players who played significant time at both offensive and defensive positions link to the same article. I guess the first link would do.
Could the years of the 75th and 100th anniversaries be stated? Something along the lines of Twenty-five years later, in 1994, the NFL 75th Anniversary All-Time Team was selected...
There are two consecutive were just inducted. Can one be changed to were only inducted or something similar?

That's what I saw, Gonzo fan2007. I've got a couple of nominations going on, in case you have time and fancy having a look at them. Kind regards, Alavense (talk) 15:03, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alavense, thank you for the (quick!) review. I have addressed all of team except "starting a sentence with a number" comments. Is there an MOS you can reference on this? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:22, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the edits, Gonzo fan2007. And sure, it can also be found at MOS:NUMNOTES: "Avoid beginning a sentence with a figure". Maybe I wasn't clear enough: I don't mean that starting the sentence with a number is wrong, but that it should be spelt out rather than a figure. Alavense (talk) 15:23, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alavense, all fixed. Thanks again! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:28, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I corrected a couple more, but those were just minor fixes. Nice work on the list and thanks for the prompt responses. Support. Alavense (talk) 15:33, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

"Don Hutson was one of only two Packers' players" - no need for possessive apostrophe (you wouldn't say "one of only two Green Bay's players")
Same where it appears in the prose
"Twelve of the Packers selections" - conversely you do need a possessive apostrophe here
"Three players (Len Ford, Ted Hendricks and Emlen Tunnell) were just inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame" - I think "Three players (Len Ford, Ted Hendricks and Emlen Tunnell) were inducted into just the Pro Football Hall of Fame" would read better
That's it, I think! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:45, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- ChrisTheDude, I have addressed all your comments. Thanks! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:58, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support - great work once again! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:05, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey man im josh

Source review: Passed

Reliable enough for the information being cited
Consistent date formatting
Consistent and proper reference formatting
Appropriate wikilinks where applicable
Spot checks on 15 sources match what they are being cited for

Feedback:

~~"Years with Packers" column – Would replacing "years" with "seasons" be more appropriate? I'm thinking of the fact that sometimes a season bleeds over into the next year.~~
- I think almost every list I have done has "years" instead of "seasons"
  - Well, I won't let this be the sole hangup and reason not to support, but I do think it's something to consider implementing in your lists. I've tried to make that distinction typically for that reason, especially when talking about the draft (ugh, multiple drafts in the same year for different seasons so many times). Hey man im josh (talk) 12:54, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    - Hey man im josh, I am sorry, I started drafting this response and then forgot to complete my thoughts. I will take a look at all of them and get back to you. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:37, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      - I fixed this here and on my other lists. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:19, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
~~Ref 4 – Change "San Bernardino Sun" to "The San Bernardino Sun"~~
- Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:00, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Position column could probably use a note that says something along the lines of "the most recent designation in an anniversary team"
- So position is weird, because they changed the names of it throughout the years. Hutson was a "Split end" in the 50th team and a "wide receiver" in the 75th and 100th teams. I am open to ideas? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:00, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - Oh I know the position stuff is super weird sometimes and Don Hutson is exactly who I had in mind when I mentioned it. This makes me think of the "MT" position, which turned out to be middle tackle on a line of what I believe was several tackles instead of just a (defensive) "end". Also halfback vs running back. Anyways though, I also look at a guy like Boyd Dowler, he was listed as a flanker for most of his career. Maybe usage of notes here could be helpful? It's tough. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:54, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what to say about two-way players, specifically Cal Hubbard, who are only listed as one position, but then you have Clarke Hinkle who's listed as a two-way player as their position. Something should probably be done to clear this up a bit for the few players who are affected.
- So back in the day, "tackle" and "end" were both offensive and defensive positions. Hubbard though played fullback and linebacker. That's why I did it that way. I never want to list out every single position these guys played, as many had kicking duties too. Thoughts? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:00, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yeah, I'm familiar with how complicated and silly it gets. Perhaps usage of notes could make this better, or the position column could become a position(s) column in which you list positions that a player was selected for a team as, as opposed to their definitive position at the time? I'm brainstorming here, but I think it could be improved upon in some way. I look at this list and I go "woah, what other position did Hutson play again?" Hey man im josh (talk) 12:54, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's all I've got. I will say I was pretty pissed off at ref #6 though. Joe Schmidt was snubbed! Hey man im josh (talk)

Responses above Hey man im josh. Thank you for the review! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:00, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Responses above Gonzo_fan2007. I know my answers are in no way definitive, since I'm not really sure what I'm even asking, I just know we can talk it out and maybe improve it. Also noting that source review now passed since the only issue I had with references has been addressed. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:54, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey man im josh, what would you think of just adding a note that says "The naming of positions has changed throughout the history of the NFL. The positions provided are the modern equivalent as identified by Pro-Football-Reference.com." « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:19, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gonzo fan2007: I think that's better than what we have now, but I feel mixed about Boyd Dowler, who was listed as a flanker and end. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:44, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey man im josh how about The naming of positions has changed throughout the history of the NFL. The positions provided are the player's position their last season in the NFL as identified by Pro-Football-Reference.com. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:58, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gonzo fan2007: Sorry for the delay in replying. I really don't think there's a perfect way after giving it thought, but so long as we call out why there would be an inconsistency with what some people might expect (expecting a flanker to be listed as a WR), I think we've done our due diligence. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:58, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the edit Hey man im josh. Let me know what you think. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:25, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll support! Hey man im josh (talk) 16:27, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]