Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Bacchus and Ariadne

Bacchus and Ariadne

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Original – Bacchus and Ariadne, an oil painting completed by Titian between 1520 and 1523. Now located in National Gallery, London, this painting measures 176.5 × 191 cm (69.5 × 75.2 in).

Reason: High resolution scan, notable painting
Articles in which this image appears: Bacchus and Ariadne +5
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Paintings
Creator: Titian

Support as nominator -- — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:20, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment can't this image be improved? I think it can easily be improved. For instance, the scratches in the middle right edge. How about the grayish lines across the bottom? --Երևանցի ^talk 23:41, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Damage to a notable painting only adds to the EV of a scan. If the original painting has that damage, then the scan should as well. Otherwise it would misrepresent the painting (and if an article is about the painting, that is a big issue). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:16, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - Also, those grey lines are part of the canvas. Are you seriously saying that you think removing them would remain representational of the painting? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:22, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

~~Oppose~~ then, I'd rather see paintings that do not have that kind of damage. --Երևանցի ^talk 03:26, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Um, I think that you've misunderstood the FP criteria: images are judged (largely) on how accurately they represent their subject, and not whether they're pretty or not. In this instance, the image should be judged on how good a reproduction it is of the painting. Nick-D (talk) 03:33, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Alrighty! --Երևանցի ^talk 03:43, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I don't mind the borders and all. But the glare on the right side of the painting tarnishes the image in that part of photograph. The man carrying the basket on the right side of the painting is completely covered in the glare. I can barely make out his face. Proudbolsahye (talk) 04:11, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that's wear and tear on the painting, not glare. Note how the cracks are nearly all vertical. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:25, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support despite the noticeable ageing, it appears to be an accurate scan. Mattximus (talk) 18:39, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support certainly an interesting painting. The damages are not noticeable to the point of detracting from its EV. MatGTAM (talk) 4:00, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
Support

The painting is one of the most famous works by the artist Titian.
For the information of Երևանցի, paintings that are 500 years old have nearly always suffered damage or deterioration. This one has suffered considerable damage from having been rolled up and left that way for some years, about 450 years ago. That does not detract from its fame.
The glare down the right is light reflecting off the edges of the crazing (crackles in the paint). The reason that they are parallel probably has to do with the damage of rolling it up. Glare of this type is almost inevitable when a very large canvas is photographed. I doubt if you will find a better photo of this image anywhere.
The edges. The canvas was removed from its frame at the time of the photograph. This is a rare event. It makes it possible to see the whole image without the shadows caused by the large frame overhanging the picture.
The scratches and border ought not be touched. They are integral to the picture itself.
If anyone decides to deal with the reflected light, then it needs to be done pixel by pixel, and the resultant image needs to be uploaded separately as a "digitally restored" image. NOTE: if anyone is so bold as to claim themselves as the "restorer" of this renowned masterpiece, the Department of Conservation at the National Gallery will stick bristle brushes up both your nostrils.

All things considered, it is an excellent reproduction of a very famous work and one of landmark importance. It has its own article and an interesting history. I am glad to see it among the nominationsAmandajm (talk) 04:23, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support, per Amandajm, and please don't touch it ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:54, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 19:04, 20 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Titian Bacchus and Ariadne.jpg --Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 13:43, 25 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]