Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Map of the Holocaust in Europe
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 24 Jan 2015 at 17:06:36 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a comprehensively detailed map that puts the systematic logistics of the Holocaust, in which 2/3 of European Jews were killed, into perspective.
- Articles in which this image appears
- The Holocaust, Extermination camps, German war crimes, Ghettos in Nazi-occupied Europe
- FP category for this image
- History/World War II
- Creator
- User:Dna-webmaster
- Support as nominator – JJARichardson (talk) 17:06, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- Comment — Looks very comprehensive, all right. As a WWII history buff, I'm impressed – but also slightly concerned that some of the locales marked as concentration camps may actually not have been Konzentrationslager per se: Horserød, Denmark, for example (which I'd never heard of). Our entry on Horserød camp states that "it had the same functions" as a concentration camp, but I question that; it seems to have been more a holding camp or transit camp. (I hadn't heard of the three in Norway either.) See also: Royallieu-Compiègne internment camp.
- It's my impression that the "functions" of a typical WWII Nazi concentration camp usually included working, starving or mistreating (at least some of) the prisoners to death. (I've been to Mauthausenm, where an estimated 200,000 died; it was a grim experience indeed.) I raise this issue not because I oppose such a map as an FP – not at all – but because regarding such a huge, horrible topic we must absolutely accurate. If it is accurate (or if the consensus is I'm just splitting semantic hairs), fine. Sca (talk) 19:42, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- Updated comment: I now see the fine-print footnote in the legend that says, "includes labor, prison & transit camps." Sorry to have missed that. The footnote does help. (Perhaps it could be in larger type?) Nevertheless, I question whether labor, prison and transit camps usually are classified under the general heading of "concentration camp," with which I believe most people associate the lethal "functions" mentioned above.
(I now notice also that the dotted borders identified in the legend as "present (2007) borders" are incomplete with respect to Germany, Poland, the Czech Republic and most of Eastern Europe.) Sca (talk) 15:07, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- Updated comment: I now see the fine-print footnote in the legend that says, "includes labor, prison & transit camps." Sorry to have missed that. The footnote does help. (Perhaps it could be in larger type?) Nevertheless, I question whether labor, prison and transit camps usually are classified under the general heading of "concentration camp," with which I believe most people associate the lethal "functions" mentioned above.
- Support I had stared at this for quite some time, until I realized that this map indeed deserves my support vote. The EV is beyond measure. Étienne Dolet (talk) 02:42, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 18:04, 24 January 2015 (UTC)