Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Rotary dial telephone

Rotary dial telephone

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Original – Rotary dial telephone

Reason: Quality photo of the rotary dial telephone from around the mid-20th century. This was the common phone (I think it's safe to say for over two decades) before it was replaced with the push-button telephone.
Articles in which this image appears: Telephone
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Engineering and technology/Electronics
Creator: Berthold Werner

Support as nominator – Bammesk (talk) 01:59, 27 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose An unidentified phone model from an unknown country cannot add EV. Charlesjsharp (talk) 22:56, 27 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The file description says it's probably a Belgian phone. – Sca (talk) 13:32, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes: probably = unidentified. Charlesjsharp (talk) 09:30, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Charles. I think this one, from the same article, has more EV: [1] But as a photo, it's not FP stuff... --Janke | Talk 15:30, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I updated the file description with the model number (AP41750) and country (Belgium). I also added an "Additional info" line to the file description. Pinging participants @Charlesjsharp and Janke:. Bammesk (talk) 04:47, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – What is the date of this model? The description that accompanies the nomination above suggests that it was the common model "around the mid-20th century", before it was replaced by the push-button phone. Perhaps that was the case in Belgium, but it certainly doesn't match my memory as someone who grew up in the US. To me this model looks like a phone from the 1930s or early 40s. In the US, the phones after World War II were all much squarer and boxier, and the model that ruled from the 1960s (when I was a kid) to the 1980s (when the push-buttons arrived) was the ubiquitous Western Electric model 500. I have no objection to this image, which is a nice photo of an attractive piece of machinery, but in order to have EV in the Telephone article it certainly requires a date. It is not enough to call it simply "an old rotary dial telephone", as the current caption does. What I think is old and what my nieces and nephews think is old are two very different things. – Choliamb (talk) 18:01, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

About my description in the reason section above: The description is about rotary phones in general, not this particular model. Here is my 2 cents about this particular model: It's a Bell brand and Bell brand was made (produced) by Western Electric. So in its core the design is probably an offshoot of model 302 or model 500 made in a stylish body for the European market ("the ubiquitous UK model" per Charles below). Model 302 and 500 peaked from mid 1930s to mid 1970s, which makes them mid-20 century models. If I was to guess, I would say the nom model is a 1940s or 1950s model. Personally I don't think any of that matters, because the contribution of the image to the Telephone article (hence it's EV) is in depicting simply a rotary telephone (in contrast to other non-rotary types of phones). Bammesk (talk) 17:01, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment My oppose unchanged. The article needs a 500. Actually look like the ubiquitous UK model too. Charlesjsharp (talk) 19:42, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I mostly agree with above comments: this needs a date and place of manufacture and operation, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yann (talk • contribs) 10:02, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 04:50, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]