Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/comparison of notable bridges
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- Reason
- Photos of famous bridges do not adequately show how large they are compared to one another. This SVG shows them all at the same scale, and lets the viewer highlight them interactively. Additionally, the Çanakkale 1915 Bridge, the first bridge in 20+ years to become the world's longest span, is planned to open on 2022-02-26,ref and I think it appropriate to mark the occasion.
- Articles in which this image appears
- List of longest suspension bridge spans, Millau Viaduct, Russky Bridge, Çanakkale 1915 Bridge, Akashi Kaikyo Bridge, Golden Gate Bridge, Brooklyn Bridge, Tower Bridge, Chaotianmen Bridge, Sydney Harbour Bridge, Forth Bridge, Trajan's Bridge, Rialto Bridge, Ponte Vecchio
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured_pictures/Diagrams,_drawings,_and_maps/Diagrams
- Creator
- cmglee
- Support as nominator –
cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 03:18, 12 February 2022 (UTC) - Support either – Bammesk (talk) 04:40, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose I find this confusing and poorly designed. 10:26, 12 February 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlesjsharp (talk • contribs)
- @Charlesjsharp:, @Sca:, @MER-C: I've spread out the bridges as in this image. Will this do instead? Thanks,
cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 01:32, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Charlesjsharp:, @Sca:, @MER-C: I've spread out the bridges as in this image. Will this do instead? Thanks,
- Oppose – Agree with previous unsigned post. What a jumble (jungle?) this chart is. Also, it appears only at the bottom of the main target article, strangely, under 'Notes.' – Sca (talk) 13:21, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. The W?F doesn't help here, the SVG and its interactivity when used in articles is lost thanks to MediaWiki. MER-C 19:06, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
- I'm unsure what you mean by W?F. I've added a link parameter to link the thumbnail to the SVG. Is it better? Thanks,
cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 01:32, 13 February 2022 (UTC)- Wikipedia:Village pump (WMF)/Archive 1#Branding event - 16 June - symptomatic of their inability to adequately prioritise fixing their decrepit software and community needs. MER-C 11:56, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for explaining, MER-C. I've voted on meta:Community_Wishlist_Survey_2022/Multimedia_and_Commons/Improve_SVG_rendering but I think chances are slim. cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 18:20, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Village pump (WMF)/Archive 1#Branding event - 16 June - symptomatic of their inability to adequately prioritise fixing their decrepit software and community needs. MER-C 11:56, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- I'm unsure what you mean by W?F. I've added a link parameter to link the thumbnail to the SVG. Is it better? Thanks,
- The Çanakkale bridge is 105 ft longer (per its article) than the Akashi bridge.
In the "detached version", at full screen size, it extends much past 105 ft?Never mind, see below. (105ft is the tower to tower difference) Bammesk (talk) 17:30, 13 February 2022 (UTC)- I got the profiles from [1] and [2], respectively. The engineering drawings show that the spans are measured from the towers' centrelines. The much wider base above water of the Akashi bridge makes it look like it has a significantly smaller span if one assumes that the span is measured from the inner part of the piers. cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 18:15, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- Cmglee,
I checked the Çanakkale bridge on google maps: it extends about 3000 ft to the left of the west tower and 4000 ft to the right of the east tower. Looking at the SVG file at full screen size on my browser, the Çanakkale bridge extends more than 3000/4000 ft !? Although, looking at Google Earth, maybe I am looking at it wrong.Bammesk (talk) 21:48, 13 February 2022 (UTC)- @Bammesk: Figure 6 on [3] also shows the span measured from tower centrelines. I've asked for clarification on Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Science#Measurement_of_spans_of_suspension_bridges. cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 22:08, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- Cmglee, looking at the link you gave above: This link, Çanakkale extends 770+680=1450 meters to the right of the east tower.
On your SVG file (detached version) it extends 1600 meters to the right of the east tower.I did more checking andall elseeverything looks Ok now. Nice and informative drawings. Cheers. Bammesk (talk) 22:42, 13 February 2022 (UTC)- Cmglee, never mind, I struck everything above that confused me. Your drawing has slightly wider grids on the left half, because of the meters to feet conversion, and that threw me off. All is good, everything matches: your sources, your SVG file, google maps all match. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I support both versions, the 'original' and the 'detached'. Bammesk (talk) 04:01, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Bammesk: Thank you very much for investigating and confirming the profile. Glad it's now resolved. Cheers, cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 21:23, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- Cmglee, never mind, I struck everything above that confused me. Your drawing has slightly wider grids on the left half, because of the meters to feet conversion, and that threw me off. All is good, everything matches: your sources, your SVG file, google maps all match. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I support both versions, the 'original' and the 'detached'. Bammesk (talk) 04:01, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- Cmglee, looking at the link you gave above: This link, Çanakkale extends 770+680=1450 meters to the right of the east tower.
- @Bammesk: Figure 6 on [3] also shows the span measured from tower centrelines. I've asked for clarification on Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Science#Measurement_of_spans_of_suspension_bridges. cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 22:08, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- Cmglee,
- I got the profiles from [1] and [2], respectively. The engineering drawings show that the spans are measured from the towers' centrelines. The much wider base above water of the Akashi bridge makes it look like it has a significantly smaller span if one assumes that the span is measured from the inner part of the piers. cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 18:15, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- Drive-by comment. I saw this at the science reference desk[4] and, on coming here, was taken aback by the superimposed version at the top. However, the "detached" version is much better and, I find, highly encyclopedic. In the detached version the highlighting is not really necessary and, indeed, is a bit of a distraction. Take this as support for detached or ignore my comment, however you wish. Thincat (talk) 10:39, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Something is going terribly wrong with the thumbnails. Why are two of the bridges getting cut off at the sides? Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.6% of all FPs 22:53, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- The diagram isn't meant to show the entire Çanakkale and Akashi bridges as they are so long that the smaller ones would be lost. They show just enough of the main spans to compare their lengths. cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 23:36, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- If I click through all the way to the full SVG, it's incredibly good. I'm just not sure Wikipedia handles it well enough. 18:59, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 03:43, 22 February 2022 (UTC)